Re: *ist D competitor - Canon EOS 10D
> Canon has announced EOS 10D. I'll go look at it tomorrow. Today I'm just going to enjoy the news about the *ist D. --Mike
Re: Goody, Yummy
> Canon has a 28mm f/1.8. A nice, small Pentax version of that lens would > be perfect (42mm f/1.8) > > Michael > >> Mike Johnston wrote: >> I already have the perfect portrait lens--the "75mm effective" (a.k.a. 50mm) >> f/1.4 lens. Now just give me a good fast moderate wide-angle for the *ist D >> and I'm home free. Michael, Yup. I have hopes for something like a 25mm f/1.4 that's about as big as an SMCP-M 50/1.4. That would be perfect for me. But I'd take anything within shouting distance of that focal length and speed. --Mike
Re: *ist D photos
> Don't count on ISO 50 - if this is the same chip as the D100 slowest > ISO is 200. But I believe it does go to 1600. That's not chip-dependent, that's circuitry-dependent, I'm pretty sure. --Mike
Is perspective "cropping"? WAS: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #8
> Not really. The fact that the 50 has a field of view more like a 75 is > created by cropping, not optical zooming. In effect, the > less-than-24x36 image sensor size means that there's a permanently > enabled digital zoom feature on the camera. > > All you're doing is cropping. The perspective-flattening effects of > longer optics aren't going to come into play (or will they? maybe I'm > the confused one). Well, perhaps. The fact is, you could say the same thing about any smaller format. You could say that "all you're doing" with rollfilm is cropping the field of view of 4x5 film, and "all you're doing" with 35mm film is cropping the field of view of the rollfilm. A 300mm is normal on an 8x10 camera, moderately telephoto on a 4x5, long portrait length on a 6x7, and long telephoto on 35mm. As far as PERSPECTIVE is concerned, it doesn't change with focal length anyway. If you took a picture on 8x10 film with a 300mm lens, then cut out a tiny 36mm x 24mm piece from the middle of it, that little piece would have exactly the same perspective as would a piece of 35mm film aimed at the same target with a 300mm 35mm lens. No, the pictures wouldn't look exactly the same, because the smaller camera would resolve better. But in terms of "flattening" they'd be the same. So, yes, the 50mm lens on an APS sized sensor would have the same angle of view, d.o.f. at same aperture, perspective, and "flattening" effect as a piece of 35mm film cropped. But so would a 75mm lens on a full-sized piece of 35mm film. Hope this is clear. This is one of those perennial questions in photography--it just always comes up again and again and again. --Mike
Re: K lens values in the wake of D *ist
Perhaps the value of the SMCT big glass will go up a little too. My SMCT 300/4 would be a 450/4 and my SMCT 500/4.5 a 750/4.5 which will be a big help with motor racing. If it'll take screwmount stuff then there is a whole world of "obsolete" 3rd party lenses that are no longer obsolete. Time to search out that 6x7 Zoomar 240/1.2 ! It would also be amusing to see an M37 asahiflex lens on a *ist digital. I believe there were M37 - M42 adapters which could then be mounted in an M42 - K mount adapter. Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia - Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax Discuss Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 10:45 AM Subject: K lens values in the wake of D *ist > I would think certain K-mount used lenses would go up in value > in the APS sensor size world. > > All the wides: > > 15,18, 20, 24, 28, 35 > but not the fisheye, it would end up > semi-fisheye which is quite annoying. > > some primes: > The fast 85's which would now be 127's ideal for > tight portraits. > Any of the fast long lenses, like the 135 2.5, 200 2.5 > > some of the zooms: > > all the wides in the 20-35, 24-50 range > The old 45-125 which would be like a 67-190! > > JCO > > J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com > My Business references & Websites: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/jco/ >
I'm humoring you--I have no idea.
> Mike I have not even started, but I'll refrain since > you did ome thru. > > Now whats the word on it's image quality? I know you > know. It's absolutely stunning, capable of outstanding capture at ISO 400 even on "HQ" type .jpeg compression; eminently usable at 800; noise suppression for long exposures is outstanding; yields full-sized 11x14's fully the equal of GOOD film when RAW capture is used at ISO of 200 or less. Be sure to look at the thread title. --Mike
Re: *ist D photos
On 26 Feb 2003 at 23:26, Stan Halpin wrote: > Can anyone explain the icon on the front for me? It shows an open rectangle > sitting on two inward sloping wedges or ramps or something. The icon is next to > the button just above the manual-auto focus slide switch. It's the "white balance" button, that's pretty much a universal symbol for WB now. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: *ist D photos
It doesn't look like a lens release. My guess is that's it's a menu button of some sort, and that you use it in conjunction with one of the comman dials to change settings, kinda like how you change the aperture from the body when using an MZ-7. chris On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Shaun Canning wrote: > I saw that too Stan, and the only thing I could think of was it might be > the lens release button, but it really is a weird little icon. It'll > probably make perfect sense once we know what it is, but the meaning > isn't particularly intuitive. > > Cheers > > Shaun > > Stan Halpin wrote: > > on 2/26/03 10:39 PM, Shaun Canning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > >>Ken, you have scooped the pool. Well done. I want one already... > >> > >>Shaun > >> > >>KT Takeshita wrote: > >> > >>>Comrades! > >>> > >>>http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg > >>> > >>>http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg > >>> > >> > > > > Can anyone explain the icon on the front for me? It shows an open rectangle > > sitting on two inward sloping wedges or ramps or something. The icon is next > > to the button just above the manual-auto focus slide switch. > > > > My brain does not process icons well. I still find it a 50-50 proposition > > selecting between O and I when I want to power on new computer equipment - I > > have no idea if O means On or empty or Off or what. > > > > stan (muttering in his beard about all this fancy newfangled stuff) > > > > . > > > > > -- > > Shaun Canning > Cultural Heritage Services > High Street, Broadford, > Victoria, 3658. > > www.heritageservices.com.au/ > > Phone: 0414-967644 > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >
Re: *ist D photos
> >> It appears not to have a PC socket. > >> Harrumph. > >> > >> Is it me or does it look like there is a PC socket covered with a > >> button > >> cover just left of the IR thingee? > > > > I saw that, and thought that the cover looked too big to be a PC socket > > cover. OTOH, I don't know what else it could be hiding, either. That's the place Pentax traditionally puts their cable release socket. Looks like the *ist D has a proprietary cable release. chris
Re: *ist D photos
> Comrades! > > http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg > > http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg > > Wow! Wow is right--it's a lot better looking than I thought it would be. Satisfied now, Bob B.? They must have heard you talking. --Mike
Re: The flood gates open....
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Butch Black wrote: > I agree that the same focal length lens will produce aprox. the same > DOF regardless of format. In the above example if you cropped a 35mm > neg to APS size, aprox = to a 75mm lens and you shot the same image at > the same spot with a 75mm lens (not cropped) and blew both up to the > same size, they would have the same DOF. My question, maybe best > answered by D100, D30, D60 owners, is with the APS sized sensor is the > DOF the same or greater then shooting with the equivalent 35mm lens? If you're comparing focal lengths directly, DOF is the same. If you're comparing field of view, it's different. To explain... If I use a lens with a focal length of 50mm on a 35mm camera, I will get the same DOF that I'd get if I put a 50mm lens on a DSLR, or on a 645, or on a 6x7 camera. If I take a picture with a 50mm 6x7 lens on my Pentax 6x7 camera, and then take a shot at the same aperture with a 50mm lens on this new Pentax DSLR, the DOF will be the same. If I crop the 6x7 photo so that it has the same field of view as the DSLR shot, the DOF and perspective will in theory be identical... the two shots will look the same if you ignore grain, tonality, etc. Now, if you compare field of view, DOF will appear to be greater on the DSLR than it will on a 35mm shot or a 6x7 shot. The reason for that is the wider the lens, the more DOF you get. If I need a 50mm lens for my 35mm film camera to cover a certain field of view (say, a head and shoulders shot), then I'm only going to need a 33mm lens to cover the same field of view with a DSLR that has a 1.5x magnification factor. Because I'm using a wider angle lens (33mm instead of 50mm), I'm getting more DOF in the DSLR shot. OTOH, if I kept the focal lengths the same by using a 50mm lens on each, then my DOF would be the same but my DSLR shot would look like it was shot with a 75mm lens. The quick guide to comparing a 35mm film camera and a DSLR with a 1.5x factor: (a) 50mm lens on DSLR, 50mm lens on film SLR --same DOF --same perspective --DSLR has less field of view and greater apparent magnification (smaller sensor on DSLR, so only center of image is recorded) (b) 33mm lens on DSLR, 50mm lens on film SLR --DSLR has more DOF --perspective is different --field of view and apparent magification are the same chris
Re: *ist D
on 2/26/03 5:50 PM, William Kane at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hey gang, > > I'm so glad that Pentax finally came out with the digital SLR! I > think I'll be checking with my favorite online retailers daily awaiting > the moment when I can finally pre-order the first one! > > A note on the other side of the coin though . . . why are they making > a brand new camera which is capable of gigabit flash cards, and then > only support USB 1.1? I know the argument that you can remove the flash > card and put it in a reader that's USB 2.0, but COME ON! > > IL Bill, who can't wait to start using his 500/4.5 on the new *ist D > > P.S. Since the film sensor isn't standard 35mm (IIRC), what's the > multiplication factor? 1.5
Re: strange button on *ist-D (IS?)
No, it is a button, not a connector. I was thinking it might control some momentary change in the viewfinder but my imagination won't take me any further. stan = on 2/26/03 11:38 PM, Steve Pearson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think it shows a computer. Thus, it is probably a > USB hook up, maybe??? > > > --- Iren & Henry Chu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> >> I notice that there is a strange button at the left >> side of the front body >> of *ist-D, just above the MF-AFC-AFS switch. The >> marking is a rectangle >> supported by two triangles. >> >> So the guessing game start: is it the long awaited >> "image stabilizing" >> function? >> >> Regards, >> >> Henry Chu >> 27/2/2003 >> >> >> >> >>
Re: strange button on *ist-D (IS?)
nah, too small. The USB connection will be under the rubber flap on the front right or rear right of the camera. It is definitely a button we are all talking about. Cheers Shaun Steve Pearson wrote: I think it shows a computer. Thus, it is probably a USB hook up, maybe??? --- Iren & Henry Chu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear all, I notice that there is a strange button at the left side of the front body of *ist-D, just above the MF-AFC-AFS switch. The marking is a rectangle supported by two triangles. So the guessing game start: is it the long awaited "image stabilizing" function? Regards, Henry Chu 27/2/2003 _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ . -- Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services High Street, Broadford, Victoria, 3658. www.heritageservices.com.au/ Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kevin Waterson wrote: * Convenient playback functions, such as nine imageand 12X magnification-display gimmicks Not really- some of the earlier Canons wouldn't magnify. This is invaluable for checking focus in the field. R
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Re: *ist D photos
I saw that too Stan, and the only thing I could think of was it might be the lens release button, but it really is a weird little icon. It'll probably make perfect sense once we know what it is, but the meaning isn't particularly intuitive. Cheers Shaun Stan Halpin wrote: on 2/26/03 10:39 PM, Shaun Canning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken, you have scooped the pool. Well done. I want one already... Shaun KT Takeshita wrote: Comrades! http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg Can anyone explain the icon on the front for me? It shows an open rectangle sitting on two inward sloping wedges or ramps or something. The icon is next to the button just above the manual-auto focus slide switch. My brain does not process icons well. I still find it a 50-50 proposition selecting between O and I when I want to power on new computer equipment - I have no idea if O means On or empty or Off or what. stan (muttering in his beard about all this fancy newfangled stuff) . -- Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services High Street, Broadford, Victoria, 3658. www.heritageservices.com.au/ Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: strange button on *ist-D (IS?)
I think it shows a computer. Thus, it is probably a USB hook up, maybe??? --- Iren & Henry Chu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear all, > > I notice that there is a strange button at the left > side of the front body > of *ist-D, just above the MF-AFC-AFS switch. The > marking is a rectangle > supported by two triangles. > > So the guessing game start: is it the long awaited > "image stabilizing" > function? > > Regards, > > Henry Chu > 27/2/2003 > > > > > _ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months > FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/
Re: What the D*ist REALLY MEANS...
On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 12:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But for someone who never plans to _sell_ her cameras, because they're _tools_, this only means that buying backup gear on the used market get easier, n'est-ce pas? (Though it does mean that buying _lenses_ gets tougher for a while...) As long as the profit margin on new film cameras stays just high enough for them to continue to be manufactured at all, and for Pentax to keep repairing them when they wear out, anyhow. -- Glenn You know, if Pentax sells a caboodle of these things, they'll be making lots of new lenses to sell to the people buying 'em 'cause they don't make any money off of lenses sold on Ebay. I bet there will be plenty of good used glass to go around (especially when people go digital and want to shoot with the new lenses that match the perspective of their old film lenses). Dan Scott
RE: *ist D photos
> > My brain does not process icons well. I still find it a 50-50 proposition > selecting between O and I when I want to power on new computer > equipment - I > have no idea if O means On or empty or Off or what. Those are not O & I, they are 0 (zero ) and 1 (one). zero = off, 1 = on. Very easy. JCO
strange button on *ist-D (IS?)
Dear all, I notice that there is a strange button at the left side of the front body of *ist-D, just above the MF-AFC-AFS switch. The marking is a rectangle supported by two triangles. So the guessing game start: is it the long awaited "image stabilizing" function? Regards, Henry Chu 27/2/2003 _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: *ist D photos
William, That looks like just about the size and shape of the connector on the MZ-S for the Interval Timer/Electronic Cable release. That would be my guess. Bruce Wednesday, February 26, 2003, 9:11:58 PM, you wrote: WR> - Original Message - WR> From: "Butch Black" WR> Subject: Re: *ist D photos >> It appears not to have a PC socket. >> Harrumph. >> >> Is it me or does it look like there is a PC socket covered with a button >> cover just left of the IR thingee? WR> I saw that, and thought that the cover looked too big to be a PC socket WR> cover. OTOH, I don't know what else it could be hiding, either. WR> William Robb
Re: *ist D photos
On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 11:11 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Butch Black" Subject: Re: *ist D photos It appears not to have a PC socket. Harrumph. Is it me or does it look like there is a PC socket covered with a button cover just left of the IR thingee? I saw that, and thought that the cover looked too big to be a PC socket cover. OTOH, I don't know what else it could be hiding, either. William Robb It's where you plugin the controller for those micro-RC cars. ;-) Dan Scott
Re: *ist D photos
on 2/26/03 10:47 PM, wendy beard at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > At 10:51 PM 26/02/2003 -0500, you wrote: > >> I broke the news to the expenditure department this evening. >> It went surprisingly well. >> Too well, actually. >> >> I have one on order. >> >> William Robb > > I showed all the details to hubby. He grunted and said "yes, very nice, dear". > Guess that means I can have one ;-) > > > Wendy Beard, > Ottawa, Canada > http://www.beard-redfern.com > > > If it helps any, you can tell him that we all designated you as the first woman in Canada to would provide PDML the definitive female Canadian (well, sorta) Pentaxian hands on evaluation of this camera. If you don't put yourself on the waiting list immediately, you will let us all down. Stan
Re: *ist D photos
on 2/26/03 10:39 PM, Shaun Canning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ken, you have scooped the pool. Well done. I want one already... > > Shaun > > KT Takeshita wrote: >> Comrades! >> >> http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg >> >> http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg >> Can anyone explain the icon on the front for me? It shows an open rectangle sitting on two inward sloping wedges or ramps or something. The icon is next to the button just above the manual-auto focus slide switch. My brain does not process icons well. I still find it a 50-50 proposition selecting between O and I when I want to power on new computer equipment - I have no idea if O means On or empty or Off or what. stan (muttering in his beard about all this fancy newfangled stuff)
*ist D competitor - Canon EOS 10D
Canon has announced EOS 10D. Why should we care? I presume this would be *ist D main competitor. And I am sure Pentax would pay particular attention to the price; and they have some time to tweak the features between now and July. Highlights: - 6.3 Megapixels CMOS sensor (15.1 x 22.7mm) - Magnesium Alloy Body - 7-Point Autofocus - 3 frames per second drive speed in 9-frame bursts - extended ISO range of 100-3200 - White Balance Bracketing mode - selectable color space options including Adobe RGB and sRGB - 5.9 x 4.2 x 3.0 inches and weighs 27.9 oz - available mid-March vs *ist D's 5 x 3.7 x 2.3 inches and 18oz price -- --Lawrence Kwan--SMS Info Service/Ringtone Convertor--PGP:finger/www-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vex.net/~lawrence/ -Key ID:0x6D23F3C4--
Re: *ist D photos
- Original Message - From: "Butch Black" Subject: Re: *ist D photos > It appears not to have a PC socket. > Harrumph. > > Is it me or does it look like there is a PC socket covered with a button > cover just left of the IR thingee? I saw that, and thought that the cover looked too big to be a PC socket cover. OTOH, I don't know what else it could be hiding, either. William Robb
Re: What the D*ist REALLY MEANS...
On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 09:17 PM, Cesar Matamoros II wrote: I for one and not planning on getting rid of my film cameras. Still archival in my book. Cesar Panama City, Florida in Baltimore, Marylandt Not to mention that a working camera in my hand is worth 100 super-dooper cameras I don't have. :-) Guess I'll have to make due with old analog, out of date 20th century technology Dan Scott (packing my lovely ZX-5n, 24, 35, 77, 100, and 135 for a brief trip to FL—paying my last respects to a much loved family member)
RE: *ist D & Flagship SLR
Is it just me, or does anyone else wonder if the istD has a magnesium body? The finish certainly looks like that on the MZ-S, or is this just 'clever' plastics? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 27 February 2003 03:36 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: *ist D & Flagship SLR > > > After seeing the *ist D photos, which has some MZ-S > influence, I bet you can > see the flagship slr. Pentax will fix the MZ-S > problemsadd aperature > control, the great PZ-1p hyper modes, and hyper manual. In > my opinion, the > MZ-S was close but lacked some key and unique PZ-1p features. > The lack of > aperature control on the body was inexcusable. > > Robert James > > << Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:13:46 -0800 > From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: KT Takeshita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: *ist D photos > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Way cool! As I suspected, very PZ-1p like - they are > thumb/finger wheels rather than big dials on the ZX-5n. It > looks like the Hyper button is right next to the shutter button. >> > >
Re: It's HERE!... Bah!
On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 07:44 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: I'm holding out for it (10MP+ FFS), a smaller-than-35mm sensor is a major disadvantage to my mind. But we've been through all this before... Thank your chosen deity they've finally done something but I'll stick with my Oly E for the mean time. Rob Studdert C'mon Rob, won't you be itching to use some of that pristine Pentax glass sitting on your shelf? I bet you'll quickly tire of looking at other peoples' sample photos (shot with the "wrong lenses") and then you'll decide you have to take one for a spin just to see what you can squeeze out of it with your glass. I'm hoping it will turn out to be a decent camera, not just one that's finally compatible with Pentax glass Dan Scott
Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #5
Thats cause Ricoh put a pin where Pentax specified an AF shaft, not Pentaxes fault Ricoh didn't want to follow the KA mount correctly. --- Mike Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I know. Really now, K-mount lenses and bodies are > _already_ less than > > 100% compatible: I've heard about old Ricoh lenses > that will > > permanently jam into place on a new AF body > > > Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's NOT an incompatibility. I'm > not saying your overall > point is wrong, but Pentax is under NO obligation to > make its new bodies > conform to older products FROM OTHER MANUFACTURERS. > This is an unreasonable > standard to hold them to, and certainly not a valid > example of > incompatibility. > > --Mike > __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: Picture of *istD
Oops. Never mind. I should read all the threads before I post. Dan Scott On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 10:39 PM, Dan Scott wrote: On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 10:10 PM, Mark D. wrote: Hey Folks, This might be a picture of the coming DSLR (provided the link works): http://www.excite.co.jp/world/url/ ?wb_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.digitalcamera.jp%2F&wb_lp=jaen-ATL Mark __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ It works! These might get you there more directly (maybe not): http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg Sort of looks a little like the PZ-1p in the grip, doesn't it? Definitely not much MZ-D influence. Dan Scott
Re: *ist D photos
On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 09:00 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 26 Feb 2003 at 20:50, KT Takeshita wrote: Comrades! http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg Wow! It's very different from the film *ist. Rob Studdert Yes. And it looks like they aren't production models, just a prototype or mockup. Dan Scott
Re: Picture of *istD
--- Dan Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It works! > > These might get you there more directly (maybe not): > > http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg > > http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg > > Sort of looks a little like the PZ-1p in the grip, > doesn't it? > Definitely not much MZ-D influence. Thanks Dan, the links get directly to the photos. I really like the look of it. Some have commented that it looks kinda like the N80 (in the grip area). Who the hell cares?!?!?! We got a DLSR to use with Pentax lenses!!! WAHOOO! Digital has been a boon for me. In the last 5 months, I've only been an able to make it to the lab (the pro ones) twice. I've mainly been using my Canon G2 and prints from Ofoto have been satisfactory. I have, however, been longing to use an SLR for the superior and accurate viewfinder, much better visual confirmation of focus, and speed of operation. The news of this camera has made my day and I can't wait to handle it. I really hope its performance is excellent. Mark __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/
Re: *ist D photos
At 10:51 PM 26/02/2003 -0500, you wrote: I broke the news to the expenditure department this evening. It went surprisingly well. Too well, actually. I have one on order. William Robb I showed all the details to hubby. He grunted and said "yes, very nice, dear". Guess that means I can have one ;-) Wendy Beard, Ottawa, Canada http://www.beard-redfern.com
Re: Picture of *istD
On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 10:10 PM, Mark D. wrote: Hey Folks, This might be a picture of the coming DSLR (provided the link works): http://www.excite.co.jp/world/url/ ?wb_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.digitalcamera.jp%2F&wb_lp=jaen-ATL Mark __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ It works! These might get you there more directly (maybe not): http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg Sort of looks a little like the PZ-1p in the grip, doesn't it? Definitely not much MZ-D influence. Dan Scott
Re: Fingernails on blackboard, part 347
Mike I have not even started, but I'll refrain since you did ome thru. Now whats the word on it's image quality? I know you know. P.S. still playing video games while reading the list. I have no life I know. --- Mike Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I hear ya Cotty.I have to much money > > > Brendan and Dave are trying to get back at me for > teasing everybody > yesterday. > > It's _too_. > > > --Mike > __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #5
> I know. Really now, K-mount lenses and bodies are _already_ less than > 100% compatible: I've heard about old Ricoh lenses that will > permanently jam into place on a new AF body Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's NOT an incompatibility. I'm not saying your overall point is wrong, but Pentax is under NO obligation to make its new bodies conform to older products FROM OTHER MANUFACTURERS. This is an unreasonable standard to hold them to, and certainly not a valid example of incompatibility. --Mike
Re: *ist D photos
Ken, you have scooped the pool. Well done. I want one already. It looks a little bit like a cut down pz-1p to me. Same sort of looks, whereas the *ist film camera looked pretty plasticky. This one looks as tough as the MZ-S is supposed to be. I can't wait until we are all trying to get these things...it's gunna takes months... Cheers Shaun KT Takeshita wrote: Comrades! http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg Wow! Ken . -- Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services High Street, Broadford, Victoria, 3658. www.heritageservices.com.au/ Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: And it's HERE!
On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 04:16 PM, Chris Brogden wrote: On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Cotty wrote: This is my last post on the subject: http://www.bigdayphoto.com/tom/images/more_crap.jpg tv URGH! That picture has no soul. Cotty Or one too many. chris It definitely has soul. Clearly a tormented and, most likely, evil soul Dan Scott
Re: *ist D photos
I think thats the socket for the cable release, like on the MZ-S - Original Message - From: "Butch Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Is it me or does it look like there is a PC socket covered with a button > cover just left of the IR thingee? > > http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg > > > BUTCH > > Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. > > Hermann Hess (Damien) > >
Re: *ist D photos
> On 26 Feb 2003 at 20:06, Peter Jansen wrote: > > > Is it me or does this look like a Nikon N80? I think it does, looks a bit like the D100 on the grip side.
Re: *ist D photos
It appears not to have a PC socket. Harrumph. Is it me or does it look like there is a PC socket covered with a button cover just left of the IR thingee? http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hess (Damien)
Re: *ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 03:43 PM, Kevin Waterson wrote: Depreview: * New 16-segment metering system achieves more accurate exposure * New 11-point AF sensor (SAFOX VIII) realizes enhanced focusing * Fast 1/4000 sec. shutter speed and high-speed flash sync at 1/150 1/4000, this is enough for most applications but I would not try anything too fancy. * Continuous shooting at approx. 2.7 fps Does it have an mpeg feature? 2.7 is a bit slow for real sports or wildlife shooting * PC-based camera control and easy data transmission with USB 1.1 compatibility I was hoping for a firewire plug also * Convenient playback functions, such as nine imageand 12X magnification-display gimmicks I will go out on a limb here and offer that software is available only for MS and MAC systems and that *nix folks have been left out. Let's not forget this is their entry level DSLR. I imagine that if this does well bigger and better things will be along, in due time. Dan Scott
Re: *ist D photos
Dumb question, anyone know whatth 11 sensor AF pattern is, I've seem the metering but not AF sensor placement, anyone know or did I miss something. __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: *ist D photos
On 26 Feb 2003 at 20:06, Peter Jansen wrote: > Is it me or does this look like a Nikon N80? It doesn't even look like the film *ists half brother. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: *ist D photos
On 26 Feb 2003 at 19:51, Bruce Dayton wrote: > John, > > Don't count on ISO 50 - if this is the same chip as the D100 slowest > ISO is 200. But I believe it does go to 1600. That's OK, you can always slow it down but you can't speed it up. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: *ist D photos
It appears not to have a PC socket. Harrumph. However, it looks like a camera, which my G1 does not. I have quite grown to hate that ghastly and loathsome excuse for a camera. Gaaak. I wonder if the *ist D will shoot infrared. I broke the news to the expenditure department this evening. It went surprisingly well. Too well, actually. I have one on order. William Robb
Re: *ist D photos
- Original Message - From: "jcoyle" Subject: Re: *ist D photos > Thanks Ken. This looks an excellent match cosmetically for the MZ-S. > Did anyone else notice the engravings on the FAJ lens mounted on it? > f4(22)-5.6(32). Is that the range or does it mean that at 35mm the maximum > aperture is 22-32? I would think that is the aperture range at the extremes of the zoom range. William Robb
Re: *ist D & Flagship SLR
After seeing the *ist D photos, which has some MZ-S influence, I bet you can see the flagship slr. Pentax will fix the MZ-S problemsadd aperature control, the great PZ-1p hyper modes, and hyper manual. In my opinion, the MZ-S was close but lacked some key and unique PZ-1p features. The lack of aperature control on the body was inexcusable. Robert James << Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:13:46 -0800 From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: KT Takeshita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: *ist D photos Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Way cool! As I suspected, very PZ-1p like - they are thumb/finger wheels rather than big dials on the ZX-5n. It looks like the Hyper button is right next to the shutter button. >>
Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V03 #8
On Wednesday, Feb 26, 2003, at 18:54 US/Pacific, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: already have the perfect portrait lens--the "75mm effective" (a.k.a. 50mm) f/1.4 lens. Now just give me a good fast moderate wide-angle for the *ist D and I'm home free. Not really. The fact that the 50 has a field of view more like a 75 is created by cropping, not optical zooming. In effect, the less-than-24x36 image sensor size means that there's a permanently enabled digital zoom feature on the camera. All you're doing is cropping. The perspective-flattening effects of longer optics aren't going to come into play (or will they? maybe I'm the confused one). -- David Barts Portland, OR
Re: *ist D photos
Thanks Ken. This looks an excellent match cosmetically for the MZ-S. Did anyone else notice the engravings on the FAJ lens mounted on it? f4(22)-5.6(32). Is that the range or does it mean that at 35mm the maximum aperture is 22-32? John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - > > KT Takeshita wrote: > > > > Comrades! > > > > http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg > > > > http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg > > > > Wow! > > > > Ken > >
RE: What the D*ist REALLY MEANS...
-- -Original Message- -- From: Gary L. Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:10 PM -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- -- >2. The competition for Pentax glass just increased 5-10 -- fold. That's if the D*ist looks as good as it seems to and -- is priced right. In other words, it will probably be a seller. -- > -- Which could also mean the value of your Pentax film cameras -- just took a -- nosedive... :-( -- -- -- -- Later, -- Gary -- I for one and not planning on getting rid of my film cameras. Still archival in my book. Cesar Panama City, Florida in Baltimore, Maryland
Re: *ist D photos
Ken Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"I think I just fell in lust again.for the tenth time today."
In the 1970s, lyricist/composer Stephen Schwartz (Pippin, Working,
Pocahantas, The Hunchback of Notre Dame) wrote a song, "Proud Lady." Sung by
a brash young man ("She calls me a swine--she's mine!"), the lyric ends,
"And I finally found my one true love...for the twenty-third time!"
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Re: *ist D photos
Well, I figure I'm like that kid Mikey in the breakfast cereal commercial. I'm no fan of the styling of most "modern" cameras. "We'll show the *ist D to frankie, he hates everything!" (and here, we take a moment, imagining that I'm perusing the new camera) "HE LIKES IT! FRANKIE ACTUALLY LIKES IT!" Seriously, it's very pretty. I'd like to have one, and I hope Pentax sells a bazillion of them (they should). cheers, frank Ken Archer wrote: > I think I just fell in lust again.for the tenth time today. -- "Honour - that virtue of the unjust!" -Albert Camus
Re: The flood gates open....
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Fred wrote: > > Is a 50mm a real 50mm on this new Pentax? > > No. Because the sensor is not a 36mm x 24mm sensor, but is smaller, > the "multiplier effect" applies. It's a bit more complicated than this. A lens with a focal length of 50mm has the same perspective and DOF regardless of the size of the sensor or film. What seem like differences in focal length are really just differences in cropping, which is a different beast altogether. If you put a 50mm lens on a DSLR and compare it to one on a 35mm film camera, both will give you the same DOF. The apparent focal length will be different, with the DSLR enlarging the subject roughly as much as, say, a 35mm lens with a focal length of 75mm would. But you would get exactly the same effect if you cropped out a part of your 35mm negative and enlarged it, so all the DSLR is really doing is cropping your 50mm shots enough that they look like they were taken with a 75mm lens. Ok. I have a question. I agree that the same focal length lens will produce aprox. the same DOF regardless of format. In the above example if you cropped a 35mm neg to APS size, aprox = to a 75mm lens and you shot the same image at the same spot with a 75mm lens (not cropped) and blew both up to the same size, they would have the same DOF. My question, maybe best answered by D100, D30, D60 owners, is with the APS sized sensor is the DOF the same or greater then shooting with the equivalent 35mm lens? BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hess (Damien)
Re: *ist D photos
Ken, When PDMLers of the future examine the archives, they will credit you for revealing the first photos of the *ist D. Thanks from all of us. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *ist D photos
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 21:58:47 -0500, you wrote: >Does it look slightly Nikon-y to anyone? > It has some similarities to the D100 in external controls - finger and thumb wheels, four-way controller, a few buttons to left of the LCD, single dial for TV-AV Pgm and ISO, with a collar on the dial axis for other functions. Is that red oval an IR port for a remote release? Or maybe a small IR AF assist lamp? Or both? On the surface, I could love this camera, except for the flash sync. Hope it autofocuses better than the D100. Hope it takes good photos throughout its ISO range. Hope it will shoot at ISO 50 and at ISO 1600. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
price of the *ist D?
My pc wasn't functional for two days, so I might have missed this. Is there a suggested price for this puppy? I have to admit, it's even got me drooling... Amita
Re: *ist D
The pictures are awesome. I will buy it can't wait. Robert James
RE: *ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a great thing to see upon getting back to my hotel! I just compared the measurements to an LX and an MZ-S - it's right there with them That is the one complaint I have had whenever I have used the Nikon D1H and D1X at work. After a while my hand tires of carrying them. True I can hang them, I do use straps, but my style is to carry the camera in hand when shooting. Also, as Juey was amazed at the NYCPDML, the *ist D can just replace an LX in my fanny pack. This would mean an LX, an MZ-S, an *ist D, along with the 24/2, 77/1.8, and a 50/1.4,1.2 in the bag! Or maybe two LXen and no MZ-S. All without winders of course. Total glass compatibility! I wonder how my Tele-Takumar 300/6.3 (largest screwmount lens I have) or better yet my Auto-Takumar 55/1.8 (oldest 1960-62) will look on it. Another nicety - what looks to be a flash. Just like the MZ-S. No need to carry a flash unless necessarily planning on using one. AA batteries You just have to love that! Often I have been using the D1H or D1X and wondered if the battery would last through my shoot. Using AA batteries - which I always carry - makes it one less worry or expense of a spare proprietary battery. I would prefer it in black though. Somehow, I think it will be and we just have to wait for the true picture to show up - unless it already has and it is among the 200+ messages left for me to read. Now I just have to wait for it to show up at my local store - they have an order pending with their rep - and see if it handles well and suits my needs. With their track record I don't expect a problem. I don't think I will have a problem with three different layouts in my camera bag... Wondering if I can still make it back home Friday morning with the snow looming, César Panama City, Florida in Baltimore, Maryland -- -Original Message- -- From: Iren & Henry Chu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:35 AM -- -- Dear all, -- -- The news finally come: -- -- http://www.letsgodigital.nl/webpages/events/PMA-2003/news/pen tax/SLR-IST_uk.html Cheers! Henry Chu 26/2/2003
re: Effective WHAT? (Digital *ist)
Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you talking about the post you quoted or about apparent focal length? I'm not sure what you mean by interpolated... Chris, I was not referring to your superb explanation about a DSLR's cropping effect, which I've saved for future reference. Rather, I'm answering a question posed last night or this morning about how Fuji can claim 6 million effective pixels from a camera whose CCD has only 3.1 million pixels (or some such numbers). I tend to fall a half-day behind in my responses to PDML threads. I receive PDML Digest at two addresses: home and work. I compose many messages at work but send them from home so that my work email address can't be gleaned by spammers. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: *ist D photos
YES but who cares anyway. --- tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: KT Takeshita [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Comrades! > > > > > http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/is > > t-D-1L.jpg > > > > > http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/is > > t-D-2L.jpg > > > > Wow! > > Nice. > > Does it look slightly Nikon-y to anyone? > > tv > > > __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: *ist D photos
Looks cool. Jim A. > From: KT Takeshita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:50:52 -0500 > To: Pentax Discuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: *ist D photos > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:49:13 -0500 > > Comrades! > > http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg > > http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg > > Wow! > > Ken > >
Re: Fingernails on blackboard, part 347
Mike I have not even started, but I'll refrain since you did ome thru. Now whats the word on it's imade quality? I know you know. --- Mike Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I hear ya Cotty.I have to much money > > > Brendan and Dave are trying to get back at me for > teasing everybody > yesterday. > > It's _too_. > > > --Mike > __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: *ist D photos
> Does it look slightly Nikon-y to anyone? Well, I don't know. All I know is I really like it. It looks much better than the film *ist. Actually, I'd like a film body that looks like that. Nice :-) Lukasz --r-e-k-l-a-m-a- Tanie bilety lotnicze! http://samoloty.onet.pl
Re: *ist D photos
OK, I'm drooling! If Pentax sees these posts, the price is going up... --- Jason S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That gets both my thumbs up! If God had given me a > few more thumbs it would > get them too... But unfortunately Ive only got two. > > > > > > > >From: KT Takeshita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Pentax Discuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: *ist D photos > >Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:50:52 -0500 > > > >Comrades! > > > >http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg > > > >http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg > > > >Wow! > > > >Ken > > > _ > Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. > Go to > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_mobile.asp > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/
Re: *ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I process 50 rolls for tha, but still a good point, the cards have come down ALOT --- Stan Halpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 2/26/03 3:50 PM, Kevin Waterson at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Bruce Dayton said > >> Other than needing an interface for emergencies, > I can't see any DSLR > >> camera really needing a souped up transfer > interface. > >> > >> I don't see the interface (USB 1, 2, Firewire) as > being a big issue. > >> Buy the card reader with interface you desire and > be done with it. > > > > I do some work for various eisteddfods where > parents like to be able to > > see and purchase photos on the spot. The greatest > problem with digital > > here is that you cannot leave the performance area > to take disks to the > > guys out in the foyer with the computer, so you > need many cards (expensive) > > and a runner to be running them out to the > computers for the families to see. > > Cards are not that expensive. If you are running > them back and forth, 4 or 5 > 128mb would work, $25-30 each, no big deal. Even if > you go for the high > price ones at $45-50 each, that is only $250, the > price of 10-15 rolls of > processed film. > > stan > __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: And it's HERE!
Artur, All I knew was that today was the likely embargo date, and that the news would break today. As the the content of the news or the specifics of the camera, I hadn't seen any of the news before anyone else did. In fact, neither did Pentax reps or dealers. --Mike > You > > > Knew > > > :)) > > > Admit > > > It:)) > > > Regards > Artur > - Original Message - > From: "Mike Johnston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 4:23 PM > Subject: And it's HERE! > > >> >> >> And >> >> >> >> It's >> >> >> >> >> HERE! >> >> > http://www.letsgodigital.nl/webpages/events/PMA-2003/news/pentax/SLR-IST_uk. >> html >>
RE: PDML #5 Group Photo
-- -Original Message- -- From: gfen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 8:56 AM -- -- On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, tom wrote: -- > http://www.bigdayphoto.com/PDML5.jpg -- > Courtesy of a former PDMLer and his D100. Notice that Cesar is -- > handling the faux snakeskin boots. -- -- Not to me ntion the wild-eyed look he's giving them... -- -- That is just my normal look though ;-) Cesar Panama City, Florida in Baltimore, Maryland
Re: classic user interface
look at the pics no slat :-( --- Dan Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wednesday, February 26, 2003, at 11:25 AM, Bruce > Dayton wrote: > > > It seems that the interface by description, is a > bit more like the > > PZ-1p style. Still not bad. If the price is > good, they could have a > > really good thing going here. > > > > > > With two dials up top it sounds like a marriage of > the PZ-1p and the > MZ-S. > Wonder if the slanted deck from the MZ-S could > account for some of the > 7mm difference in height from the film *ist ? > (pentaprism, too, of > course) > > Dan Scott > __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: *ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> * Choice of JPEG, TIFF and RAW recording formats >> * Comes complete with software compatible with RAW format data >> * Special battery grip (expected to go on sale at the same time as >> the *ist D) > One would hope so, the biggest expense with digitals is batteries. It is?? No, it isn't. You use rechargeable NiMH batteries. Granted, it does coast fifty or sixty dollars for a set (although a charger and a set of batteries might be included in the selling price of the *ist D, I don't know), but once you own them you can re-use them for hundreds and hundreds of charges with no additonal expense. Given the fast power drain of digital cameras (a single set of batteries can last less than a day), the use of rechargeables is nearly mandatory. Don't mean to be picking on you here, Kevin, it's just that I don't like to see misapprehensions promulgated gratuitously. (I know, I like that phrase too. ) --Mike
RE: *ist D photos
> -Original Message- > From: KT Takeshita [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Comrades! > > http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/is > t-D-1L.jpg > > http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/is > t-D-2L.jpg > > Wow! Nice. Does it look slightly Nikon-y to anyone? tv
Re: *ist D photos
oh ye plzzee precious. now :-) Shaun KT Takeshita wrote: Comrades! http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg Wow! Ken . -- Shaun Canning Cultural Heritage Services High Street, Broadford, Victoria, 3658. www.heritageservices.com.au/ Phone: 0414-967644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> * Convenient playback functions, such as nine imageand 12X >> magnification-display > gimmicks Far from it (have you used a digital camera yet?). What this refers to is that in replay mode, you can view nine frames at once on the LCD screen, which greatly speeds up editing and reviewing, and the 12X display is for magnifying the image on the LCD screen so you can check details (like blinks in a group portrait, say) and focus accuracy. These two features are indispensable on any digital camera, but _especially_ on a digital SLR meant for more serious photographers. They're certainly not gimmicks. --Mike
Re: *ist D photos
That gets both my thumbs up! If God had given me a few more thumbs it would get them too... But unfortunately Ive only got two. From: KT Takeshita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: *ist D photos Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 20:50:52 -0500 Comrades! http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg Wow! Ken _ Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/hotmail_mobile.asp
Re: *ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on 2/26/03 3:50 PM, Kevin Waterson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Bruce Dayton said >> Other than needing an interface for emergencies, I can't see any DSLR >> camera really needing a souped up transfer interface. >> >> I don't see the interface (USB 1, 2, Firewire) as being a big issue. >> Buy the card reader with interface you desire and be done with it. > > I do some work for various eisteddfods where parents like to be able to > see and purchase photos on the spot. The greatest problem with digital > here is that you cannot leave the performance area to take disks to the > guys out in the foyer with the computer, so you need many cards (expensive) > and a runner to be running them out to the computers for the families to see. Cards are not that expensive. If you are running them back and forth, 4 or 5 128mb would work, $25-30 each, no big deal. Even if you go for the high price ones at $45-50 each, that is only $250, the price of 10-15 rolls of processed film. stan
Re: *ist D photos
I think I just fell in lust again.for the tenth time today. -- Ken Archer Canine Photography San Antonio, Texas "Business Is Going To The Dogs"
Re: *ist D photos
>http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg Nice, nice, nice! Jim -- ___ Get your free Verizonmail at www.verizonmail.com
Re: *ist D photos
On 03.2.26 9:13 PM, "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Way cool! As I suspected, very PZ-1p like - they are thumb/finger > wheels rather than big dials on the ZX-5n. It looks like the Hyper > button is right next to the shutter button. There appears a very slight slant of shoulder, not so prominent as MZ-S. If they make a film version of this, well, I might be interested in I did not like the MZ-S. *ist D is more like an improved version of PZ-1p with a better AF system and metering ability. Cheers, Ken
Re: *ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> I'd kick the tyres of that 'effective' word in front > of megapixels, though. This is standard digital sensor terminology. It refers to the fact that not all of the megapixels of any sensor are used for capturing the image-forming light. It has nothing to do with Pentax in particular. All the digital camera makers use it. --Mike
Re: Tradeoffs: old vs. new, FA77/1.8 vs. K85/1.8
> Hmmm. Had to sell it? Don't you mean that someone made you an > offer that you couldn't refuse? :) Well, no, I just simply put it on the eBay auction block because I needed the money - . Fred
It's HERE!... NOT Bah!
> Throwing away compatibility to a really huge extent, like building > small-image-circle lenses for the DSLR, would *really* go against Pentax > history. I'm feeling more confident they won't do something that dumb. Mark, I really beg to differ. This would not be dumb at all, it would be SMART. Canon and Nikon have already started doing it (Canon's digital-only lenses are expected at this PMA or in Japan). One of the MAJOR advantages of digital is that you can get high quality out of a smaller-than-35mm sensor, and this in turn paves the way for smaller, lighter, faster lenses. There's no reason to be forced to buy a telephoto that covers 35mm when you're trying to do nature and wildlife work with a DSLR like the *ist D; and there's no reason to have to bear the expense, size, and slow speed of what for 35mm is super-wide-angle, when all you need to cover is the smaller sensor of the *ist D. I will be surprised and disappointed if Pentax doesn't follow through with at least a limited series of lenses specifically for the *ist D. This is exactly what is needed in digital photography, not the continued application of vestigial technology that's clearly on the way out. --Mike
RE: PDML #5 Group Photo
-- -Original Message- -- From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 6:31 PM -- -- http://www.bigdayphoto.com/PDML5.jpg -- -- Courtesy of a former PDMLer and his D100. Notice that Cesar is -- handling the faux snakeskin boots. -- -- Coincidence? -- -- tv -- Just checking to see if they were real! César Panama City, Florida in Baltimore, Maryland
Re: The flood gates open....
>> > Is a 50mm a real 50mm on this new Pentax? >> >> No. Because the sensor is not a 36mm x 24mm sensor, but is smaller, >> the "multiplier effect" applies. > It's a bit more complicated than this. [snip] so all the DSLR is > really doing is cropping your 50mm shots enough that they look > like they were taken with a 75mm lens. A good explanation, Chris. Fred
Fingernails on blackboard, part 347
> I hear ya Cotty.I have to much money Brendan and Dave are trying to get back at me for teasing everybody yesterday. It's _too_. --Mike
Re: *ist D photos
Way cool! As I suspected, very PZ-1p like - they are thumb/finger wheels rather than big dials on the ZX-5n. It looks like the Hyper button is right next to the shutter button. Bruce Wednesday, February 26, 2003, 5:50:52 PM, you wrote: KT> Comrades! KT> http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg KT> http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg KT> Wow! KT> Ken
Re: *ist D photos
Thanks Ken, now I'm impressed! Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Comrades! > > http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg > > http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg > > Wow! > > Ken
Re: What the D*ist REALLY MEANS...
> Re: What the D*ist REALLY MEANS... Since we're the Pentax list, we should probably get this correct from the start. The camera is apparently called: *ist D (lower-case "i", since it's a suffix) Not D *ist (which would sound like "deist," a believer in deism, the rational belief in the existence of a non-interfering God not subject to revelation) Just thought the local editor should mention that. --Mike
Re: The D *ist is the real Olydak--?
As I've said before, I hope Pentax does well with it, but I won't be buying one. I'll be interested when there's one with a full-frame sensor, about 10 megapixels or so, priced around U.S. $1500. OTOH, I may buy an *ist D for my office. Joe
Re: *ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Flash sync a slow 1/150... Aaargh. Probably get one for the wife, though, and I might even let her borrow it back every once in awhile. Hope it's got a strong enough motor for my 600/4. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
Re: *ist D photos
Best photos yet, Ken...Thanks, keith KT Takeshita wrote: > > Comrades! > > http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg > > http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg > > Wow! > > Ken
Re: *ist D photos
On 26 Feb 2003 at 20:50, KT Takeshita wrote: > Comrades! > > http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-1L.jpg > > http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/HotNews/image/2003-02/27/ist-D-2L.jpg > > Wow! It's very different from the film *ist. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: Comparing Pentax 80-200/2.8 vs Sigma 70-200/2.8
I have the Sigma and it is fine. But I would get the Pentax if I could afford it. As I recall from the Popular Photography test of each, the Pentax is a very fine lens. I drooled when I read the review. One advantage of the Sigma is that you can get the Sigma 1.4x extender. The combination is quite good. Joe
RE: *ist D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Does anybody remember when I said the *Ist looked like it would be a very nice Digital SLR? Len --- > -Original Message- > From: Michel Carrère-Gée [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:04 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: *ist D!!! > > > Depreview: > * New 16-segment metering system achieves more accurate exposure > * New 11-point AF sensor (SAFOX VIII) realizes enhanced focusing > * Fast 1/4000 sec. shutter speed and high-speed flash > sync at 1/150 > sec. > * Continuous shooting at approx. 2.7 fps > * 2-dial system separates aperture and shutter speed settings > * With individual dials for shutter and aperture > selection, Hyper > program makes it easy to switch between Shutter-Priority AE and > Aperture-Priority AE. > * Hyper manual let you achieve the proper exposure with simple > button operation. > * Custom function allows functionality to be tuned to > satisfy user > preferences > * Noise reduction function activates for long exposures > * Compatible with MicroDrive and CompactFlash Type I/II > * Compatible with widely available AA batteries (4 of) or CR-V3 > lithium-ion batteries (2 of) > * PC-based camera control and easy data transmission > with USB 1.1 > compatibility > * 1.8 inch, 118,000-pixel LCD monitor for easy, > high-precision viewing > * Convenient playback functions, such as nine imageand 12X > magnification-display > * Choice of JPEG, TIFF and RAW recording formats > * Comes complete with software compatible with RAW format data > * Special battery grip (expected to go on sale at the > same time as > the *ist D) > > >
Re: Just thinking...
- Original Message - From: "Len Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Just thinking... > Hey, if it's ready to go, why lose valuable sales time? Get it out here > so we can buy it. Why wait for folks to change their minds? Actually the answer to my questions came very quickly and I've never been so glad to be wrong about my doubts:))) So... the movie "Return of the Pentax" has begun... Regards Artur --r-e-k-l-a-m-a- Tanie bilety lotnicze! http://samoloty.onet.pl
RE: *ist: classic user interface
When there's no film? Len --- > Now on the D*Ist..maybe Paal's flagship DOES exist (F*Ist? > ;)..dare to dream about OTF metering, next... > > -- > http://www.infotainment.org <-> more fun than a > poke in your eye. > http://www.eighteenpercent.com<-> photography and portfolio. > >
Re: It's HERE!... Bah!
On 26 Feb 2003 at 18:16, Mike Johnston wrote: > > I suspect this means lenses with less-than-full-frame coverage, made > > specifically for the DSLR. Hope this doesn't affect plans for the > > full-frame digicam so many of us are holding out for. > > > I'm sure not holding out for it. A smaller-than-35mm sensor is one of the > primary advantages of the new technology. Why throw it away? I'm holding out for it (10MP+ FFS), a smaller-than-35mm sensor is a major disadvantage to my mind. But we've been through all this before... Thank your chosen deity they've finally done something but I'll stick with my Oly E for the mean time. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: Semi-OT: Pan Techniques
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 19:11:42 -0500, Doug Franklin wrote: > On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:10:42 -0500, Stephen Moore wrote: > > > At first glance it seems a straightforward pan shot, done > > with a fairly wide lens -- but on closer examination the > > blur doesn't appear to be uniform across the entire photo. > > That's just a natural result of panning while the car is going through > a turn, but you're standing still. The photog is keeping his sights on > the driver's helmet, for example, and it stays sharp, but the rest of > the car rotates around its CG/roll center while the shutter is open. I should also have noted that even if the car isn't turning itself, it is turning with respect to the camera. If it wasn't you wouldn't be panning. :-) That relative motion also has this effect. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
Re: *ist D
On 26 Feb 2003 at 17:50, William Kane wrote: >A note on the other side of the coin though . . . why are they making > a brand new camera which is capable of gigabit flash cards, and then > only support USB 1.1? I know the argument that you can remove the flash > card and put it in a reader that's USB 2.0, but COME ON! At least they are consistent, it's a 6MP APS sensor, that's old tech too. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
