Re: wolf in stop motion, brilliant video

2009-04-19 Thread David Savage
Very clever.

If you liked that, here's something from flickr:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/trevor303/3433769807

Cheers,

Dave

2009/4/19 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:
 This is a brilliant application of photography:

 http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=93702225254h=i7_u7u=kc8qgref=nf

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Re: PESO: A very ugly fly

2009-04-19 Thread Cotty
On 18/4/09, Toine, discombobulated, unleashed:

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Re: Re PESO A very ugly fly

2009-04-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/4/09, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

This is a test.  Is this not screwing up your gmail thread thingy?

Not mine toots. It threaded perfectly. Powermail on a Mac. Gmail might
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Re: wolf in stop motion, brilliant video

2009-04-19 Thread Cotty
On 18/4/09, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

This is a brilliant application of photography:

http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=93702225254h=i7_u7u=kc8qgref=nf

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Re: PESO: A very ugly fly

2009-04-19 Thread Toine
Thanks, Some answers:
No magic applied here. Flies are best shot in the evening when they
cool down. This one was really hibernating for the night.
Lens F100/2.8 macro with the AF160FC. This ringflash is superb for
macros like this. I've set one side to 100% and the other to 50% which
puts some contrast in the subject. The assist light is also very handy
for bug hunting at dusk.
The real challenge is the background, if the background is too far
away everything is pitch black. In this case a yellow flower is the
background. Very difficult to focus on the subject and also keep an
eye on the moving background. Nice to read you noticed the background!

Toine

2009/4/18 Toine to...@repiuk.nl:
 http://tinyurl.com/dcsmx2

 Click on the image for a fullscreen version.

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Re: Re PESO A very ugly fly

2009-04-19 Thread Toine
I see another thread in gmail.

2009/4/19 Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net:
 This is a test.  Is this not screwing up your gmail thread thingy?


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Re: wolf in stop motion, brilliant video

2009-04-19 Thread Larry Colen
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 02:07:58PM +0800, David Savage wrote:
 Very clever.

For some reason, when I saw that first film, I thought of you.

I'd love to see what sort of stop action you could do with your night
photography.

If I had access to a decent night sky, it could be fun to make a movie
just doing an interval timer. Or better yet, the interval timer and
strobing on people, or models, to do stop action. You'd have the stars
as dashes whizzing around while fun stuff happened in the foreground.

 
 If you liked that, here's something from flickr:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/trevor303/3433769807

Fun!

 
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Re: PESO: A very ugly fly

2009-04-19 Thread Larry Colen
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 11:19:08PM +0200, Toine wrote:
 http://tinyurl.com/dcsmx2
 
 Click on the image for a fullscreen version.

Nice shot!

For some bizarre reason, it makes me think of a ducatti

 
 Toine
 
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Re: wolf in stop motion, brilliant video

2009-04-19 Thread David Savage
2009/4/19 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:
 On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 02:07:58PM +0800, David Savage wrote:
 Very clever.

 For some reason, when I saw that first film, I thought of you.

 I'd love to see what sort of stop action you could do with your night
 photography.

 If I had access to a decent night sky, it could be fun to make a movie
 just doing an interval timer. Or better yet, the interval timer and
 strobing on people, or models, to do stop action. You'd have the stars
 as dashes whizzing around while fun stuff happened in the foreground.

Actually if I strung together some of my night shot test exposures
you'd actually see the stars moving. Gives me food for thought though.

I'm leaving tomorrow on a 2 week camping trip up to Karijini National
Park in the states Pilbra region.

puts on thinking cap

Cheers,

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Re: Another camera problem

2009-04-19 Thread mike wilson
So there is a menu item that says the LCD displays the number of shots 
available in continuous shooting mode when shutter button is half 
pressed. (Strictly, it swaps between number of shots left on card and 
number available in continuous)


But when I change from RAW 6mp to 1.5mp, jpg one star, the number shown 
on the half-press remains at three.  It appears that modern technology 
has finally managed to baffle this witless old fart.  Unless someone 
here knows better.


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RE: Another camera problem

2009-04-19 Thread Bob W
 
 So there is a menu item that says the LCD displays the number 
 of shots 
 available in continuous shooting mode when shutter button is half 
 pressed. (Strictly, it swaps between number of shots left on card and 
 number available in continuous)
 
 But when I change from RAW 6mp to 1.5mp, jpg one star, the 
 number shown 
 on the half-press remains at three.  It appears that modern 
 technology 
 has finally managed to baffle this witless old fart.  Unless someone 
 here knows better.
 

I haven't followed this thread, but here's a guess: after you've switched it
to 1.5 mp, take a picture and see if the count goes up. My guess is that it
calculates the number remaining, etc. after reading and writing to the card.

Bob


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OT: 1000 FPS in HD

2009-04-19 Thread Timbah!

http://vimeo.com/4167288

Very interesting 'shots' (especially the jelly thing at the end)

Regards,
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Re: OT: 1000 FPS in HD

2009-04-19 Thread David Savage
Very cool.

I want my next DSLR to feature 1000fps HD video.

:-)

DS

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 http://vimeo.com/4167288

 Very interesting 'shots' (especially the jelly thing at the end)

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Re: OT: 1000 FPS in HD

2009-04-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/4/09, Timbah!, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://vimeo.com/4167288

Very interesting 'shots' (especially the jelly thing at the end)

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Re: OT: 1000 FPS in HD

2009-04-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/4/09, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:

I want my next DSLR to feature 1000fps HD video.

My next camera will be able to do 24, 25, 30 and 60 fps in 1080 HD ;-)

The force is strong..can't.resist..

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Re: WTB and a macro flash question

2009-04-19 Thread mike wilson

Boris Liberman wrote:

Oh, I see. I just tried to search the eBay and found really plethora of 
such devices, none of which, sadly, seems to match my Metz flash.


I should keep looking or try to make one of these myself, even if it 
will be crude.


Boris


Depending on how macro you intend, don't forget that the flash tube 
ceases to be a point source of light and becomes progressively more like 
a softbox of potentially gigantic propotions.  At high levels of 
magnification, even the bare tube with no diffuser will be producing 
softer looking light.  Might be worth experimenting a bit before buying 
anything.





Toine wrote:


Probably yes like this
http://www.fotokonijnenberg.be/product/1408978/fk_ringflash_adapter_voor_canon_580exii.html 


These things are very large.

Any diffusor on the Metz would also work nicely. A ring flash is not
always the best option.

Toine

2009/4/18 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:


Thus, I was thinking - is there such a thing that can be attached to the
head of a general flash, say my Metz 40MZ-2, that will transmit the 
light to

the front of the lens, just like the ring macro flash?



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Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-19 Thread Thibouille
RiceHigh is a notorious idiot, to stay polite.
I wouldn't advice my worst enemy to take anything he says seriously.

On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 11:49 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote:
 more blurry pictures

 http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2009/04/more-blurry-photos-of-new-pentax.html

 Mr Ricehigh would make a shitty spy.

 Dave

 Do I see a retro camera strap connector?

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Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-19 Thread Thibouille
No way, the 645D is much much bigger.
And 645D has no no flash ;)

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 Dave's right,
 The prism and mirrobox looks straight from the 645.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 6:44 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/4/18 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com:
 On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote:
 more blurry pictures

 http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2009/04/more-blurry-photos-of-new-pentax.html

 Do I see a retro camera strap connector?

 That thing (what we can see of it) looks clunky, bulky and awkward...

 That thing looks medium format to me.

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Re: WTB and a macro flash question

2009-04-19 Thread AlunFoto
Boris,

Try finding some device that allows you to align the flash head with
the front element of your macro lens, and a sync cable to fit your
flash. There are both tailor made solutions like the flash brackets
from ReallyRightStuff and DIY projects to a couple of dollars. I
bought a hotshoe grip off ebay for a couple of dollars that did the
trick after some modification. I've used it with the AF-500FTZ, and
the AF-540FGZ. Drop me a (off-) line if you want to know about the
mods.

Jostein

2009/4/18 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:
 Hi!

 Before I forget (though it is not Friday, but nonetheless) - if you have
 matching macro adapter (I think it is two elements apo design) that came
 with Cosina 100/3.5 macro lenses, I'd like to buy it. I've FA 100/3.5 macro
 and I'd like to complete it with this adapter.

 And the question. I've truly excellent Metz 40MZ-2 flash with SCA 3701
 adapter that works really well. I would like to try to get somewhat more
 serious about my nature macro photography. To that end I am thinking of a
 macro flash. However I've already have a good flash. Thus, I was thinking -
 is there such a thing that can be attached to the head of a general flash,
 say my Metz 40MZ-2, that will transmit the light to the front of the lens,
 just like the ring macro flash?

 Any input on the issue will be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks.

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Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-19 Thread Adam Maas
And also the lens mounted in the pictures has been positively
identified as the DA 35 Limited.

-Adam

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote:
 No way, the 645D is much much bigger.
 And 645D has no no flash ;)

 On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dave's right,
 The prism and mirrobox looks straight from the 645.
 Regards,  Bob S.

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 2009/4/18 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com:
 On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote:
 more blurry pictures

 http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2009/04/more-blurry-photos-of-new-pentax.html

 Do I see a retro camera strap connector?

 That thing (what we can see of it) looks clunky, bulky and awkward...

 That thing looks medium format to me.

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GESO = Jackie Perkins

2009-04-19 Thread Dario Bonazza

Oh, and here are some songs, to get an idea:
http://www.myspace.com/perkinsjackie
Dario

Together with Exotique Band, she performed in a small theater in Meldola, 
not far from here.

Few spectators, and it was a true pity as the show was very nice.
http://www.dariobonazza.com/jpe.htm
Comments always welcome.
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Re: GESO = Jackie Perkins

2009-04-19 Thread pnstenquist
Nice pics. I think 11 is my favorite.
Paul
- Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:

 Oh, and here are some songs, to get an idea:
 http://www.myspace.com/perkinsjackie
 Dario
 
 Together with Exotique Band, she performed in a small theater in
 Meldola, 
 not far from here.
 Few spectators, and it was a true pity as the show was very nice.
 http://www.dariobonazza.com/jpe.htm
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Re: Bad Week and a PESO

2009-04-19 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
From: Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com

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Subject: Re: Bad Week and a PESO


Mmmm... not every picture tells a story, but that one tells several. 
Thanks, T


Indeed!  Thanks, Tim.  Cheers, Christine 




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Re: GESO = Jackie Perkins

2009-04-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/4/09, Dario Bonazza, discombobulated, unleashed:

Together with Exotique Band, she performed in a small theater in Meldola,
not far from here.
Few spectators, and it was a true pity as the show was very nice.
http://www.dariobonazza.com/jpe.htm
Comments always welcome.

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Re: wolf in stop motion, brilliant video

2009-04-19 Thread Charles Robinson

On Apr 19, 2009, at 0:49, Larry Colen wrote:


This is a brilliant application of photography:

http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=93702225254h=i7_u7u=kc8qgref=nf



My goodness.  That Zefrank is endlessly creative.  And think of the  
COST of all of those prints!


From the (non-embedded) Youtube video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmkLlVzUBn4 
  he states that he used 1,300 prints!


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GESO: Meet Dovile :)

2009-04-19 Thread Timbah!

Hi list,

I had a quite terrible friday but it turned to be good in the end. I had 
my first girl-photo-shoot :)


A lituanian girl asked me to do some photos of her and this friday in 
heavy rain we went out (thanks for Pentax Weather Sealing) and took some 
pictures.


Well... long story short: We had a good time and in the end I think we 
had a few good shots.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3452600674

More on my stream.

Regards,
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Re: GESO: Meet Dovile :)

2009-04-19 Thread pnstenquist
Nice work. I like the mix of earthtone wardrobe and background with flat light. 
Good stuff.
Paul
- Timbah! tim...@clancode.hu wrote:

 Hi list,
 
 I had a quite terrible friday but it turned to be good in the end. I
 had 
 my first girl-photo-shoot :)
 
 A lituanian girl asked me to do some photos of her and this friday in
 
 heavy rain we went out (thanks for Pentax Weather Sealing) and took
 some 
 pictures.
 
 Well... long story short: We had a good time and in the end I think we
 
 had a few good shots.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3452600674
 
 More on my stream.
 
 Regards,
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Re: GESO: Meet Dovile :)

2009-04-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/4/09, Timbah!, discombobulated, unleashed:

Well... long story short: We had a good time and in the end I think we
had a few good shots.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3452600674

More on my stream.

Excellent work Timbah! - you should be working for a magazine. Have you
tried any agencies in London?

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Re: GESO: Meet Dovile :)

2009-04-19 Thread David Savage
2009/4/19 Cotty cotty...@mac.com:
 On 19/4/09, Timbah!, discombobulated, unleashed:

Well... long story short: We had a good time and in the end I think we
had a few good shots.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3452600674

More on my stream.

 Excellent work Timbah! - you should be working for a magazine. Have you
 tried any agencies in London?

Cotty is looking for work as a voice activated light stand :-)

Cheers,

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Re: GESO = Jackie Perkins

2009-04-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dario,
That's a very high quality series.  The pictures are crisp, the colors
vibrant, and the backgrounds in black isolate the subjects very
nicely.  You must have a good camera...:-)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Dario Bonazza
dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
 Oh, and here are some songs, to get an idea:
 http://www.myspace.com/perkinsjackie
 Dario

 Together with Exotique Band, she performed in a small theater in Meldola,
 not far from here.
 Few spectators, and it was a true pity as the show was very nice.
 http://www.dariobonazza.com/jpe.htm
 Comments always welcome.
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Re: Meet Dovile :)

2009-04-19 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Timbah! 
Subject: GESO: Meet Dovile :)




Hi list,

I had a quite terrible friday but it turned to be good in the end. I had 
my first girl-photo-shoot :)


A lituanian girl asked me to do some photos of her and this friday in 
heavy rain we went out (thanks for Pentax Weather Sealing) and took some 
pictures.


Well... long story short: We had a good time and in the end I think we 
had a few good shots.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3452600674

More on my stream.


I think I need to move to Lithuania
Gorgeous girl and some realy good pictures as well.
This one particularly sticks out as just being really classy.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3452600674/in/photostream/
Great work.

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Re: GESO = Jackie Perkins

2009-04-19 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Bob Sullivan 
Subject: Re: GESO = Jackie Perkins




Dario,
That's a very high quality series.  The pictures are crisp, the colors
vibrant, and the backgrounds in black isolate the subjects very
nicely.  You must have a good camera...:-)


We finally talked him into switching from Canon

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Re: GESO: Meet Dovile :)

2009-04-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/4/09, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:

Cotty is looking for work as a voice activated light stand :-)

Cheers mate

BTW I'm about to buy something from your neck of the woods

http://www.cinekinetic.com/

Cinesaddle.

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Re: GESO = Jackie Perkins

2009-04-19 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Dario:  That's a very elegant gallery.  I think I agree with Paul on 
#11--very nice there.  And I believe I agree with Bob about background.  I 
also took a gander at some of your other sets on your web site.  Wow!  Great 
stuff.  You're the man, Dario :-)  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
From: Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it

To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:16 AM
Subject: GESO = Jackie Perkins



Oh, and here are some songs, to get an idea:
http://www.myspace.com/perkinsjackie
Dario

Together with Exotique Band, she performed in a small theater in Meldola, 
not far from here.

Few spectators, and it was a true pity as the show was very nice.
http://www.dariobonazza.com/jpe.htm
Comments always welcome.
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Re: Meet Dovile :)

2009-04-19 Thread Christine Aguila
Wow!  Stunning!  You've picked some gorgeous women to photograph.  Your 
style is so distinct, Timber--really great!  Sorry to hear about 
Friday--what was it about last week?


Anyway--I'd follow Cotty's suggestion and get your work out there and to the 
London agencies!

Cheers, Christine



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From: Timbah! tim...@clancode.hu

To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 10:18 AM
Subject: GESO: Meet Dovile :)



Hi list,

I had a quite terrible friday but it turned to be good in the end. I had 
my first girl-photo-shoot :)


A lituanian girl asked me to do some photos of her and this friday in 
heavy rain we went out (thanks for Pentax Weather Sealing) and took some 
pictures.


Well... long story short: We had a good time and in the end I think we had 
a few good shots.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3452600674

More on my stream.

Regards,
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Re: OT Opinions needed

2009-04-19 Thread Christine Aguila

Well, I like the suggestion  Focus on Rural Ontario.  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com

To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net; Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 5:52 AM
Subject: OT Opinions needed



Hi all.

Some time over the next month or so, i'm going to change my Gif on my
home page, to reflect less equine and more rural photography.(Guess
what i have decided to stop doing now.:-))

Any way, my mane area of interest is rural landscapes on Ontario. Not
excluding the rest of Canada, but i don't get out as much as i used
to.:-)

I plan on having a collage type gif with a catch phrase probably
written underneast the gif.

I'm looking at these so far.:

Focused on rural Ontario
Focusing on images of rural Ontario.
Focusing on rural Ontario

What say they. Any one of these appeal to you all.??

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Re: OT Opinions needed

2009-04-19 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Christine Aguila 
Subject: Re: OT Opinions needed




Well, I like the suggestion  Focus on Rural Ontario.  Cheers, Christine


I don't think we're in Toronto anymore, Toto!

might work too.

William Robb

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Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-19 Thread Mark Roberts


Better photo. Camera on far left...

http://cid-9c2325683f4c3b9c.skydrive.live.com/... .../IMG|_0153|_ps|_up.jpg


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Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-19 Thread Mark Roberts

Mark Roberts wrote:


Better photo. Camera on far left...

http://cid-9c2325683f4c3b9c.skydrive.live.com/... .../IMG|_0153|_ps|_up.jpg


Try again:
http://cid-9c2325683f4c3b9c.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/%E6%91%84%E5%BD%B1%E5%99%A8%E6%9D%90/PENTAX%20Rumors/IMG|_0153|_ps|_up.jpg


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Re: VESO - Spring Garden

2009-04-19 Thread Boris Liberman
I couldn't possibly understand what all the ingredients of this lovely 
dish are, but I sure like what I saw and heard.


I wonder where did you get that music?

Please take more of this liberty in the future.

Boris

Cotty wrote:

Taking a liberty here ;)

Sunny day, an hour free, the garden beckons. Amazing what you can see
from just a few square feet of space.


Sony DSR-450 + Canon YJ 13X6 + Tiffen polariser + Final Cut

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Re: VESO - Spring Garden

2009-04-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/4/09, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:

I wonder where did you get that music?

Here you go

http://www.akmmusic.co.uk/

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Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography

2009-04-19 Thread Timbah!
One of the main problems is I've Pentax. Not kidding. An agency will 
never talk with someone who has Pentax. The minimum is Full Frame, which 
Pentax not planning to release. With a Nikon D700 or Canon EOS 5D (MK1) 
I could start with luck :)


Also my equipment really lacks many things to become a professional. All 
the shots with Dovile was made with the FA 50 f1.4 and I had some bad 
experience with the focusing speed and accuracy of the K20D.


It also made me think about Pentax and Professional Photography.

Pentax is the very best amateur level camera and so far I know they 
always were in the 35mm market. The Pentax K20D is a fantastic camera, 
but it has some serious downs. The AF is really a pain in the rear 
sometimes, not to mention the focus feedback with MF lenses. For Nature 
it's very good since you have time, but for sport and fashion it's kinda 
weak. I did 'journalist' photographies with a 40 years old Carl Zeiss 
lens (f4/300) and it was way better than the other guy with a Canon EOS 
40D + 70-200 f4 L (said the editor :P), but I often feel the need of 
something quicker. I did live performance photography yesterday (a dutch 
band called Kraak  Smaak played at Trafalgar Square) and many of my 
shots seems to be just a little OOF.


The main problem is (I believe) that in this 'running' world you need to 
keep the tempo or you will fail (Minolta is one of the best examples). 
Also Samsung seem to be getting independent from Pentax as the EVIL 
system was developed alone and they don't want to share it with Pentax. 
Without Samsung I wonder how well Pentax will suceed, but I am afraid it 
might have difficulties.


So all in all I wonder what Pentax will do... but they need something BIG :)

.t

Ps I can't do professional photography work because I lack the two 
E-factor: Experience and Equipment :D


Christine Aguila wrote:
Wow!  Stunning!  You've picked some gorgeous women to photograph.  
Your style is so distinct, Timber--really great!  Sorry to hear about 
Friday--what was it about last week?


Anyway--I'd follow Cotty's suggestion and get your work out there and 
to the London agencies!

Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - From: Timbah! tim...@clancode.hu
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 10:18 AM
Subject: GESO: Meet Dovile :)



Hi list,

I had a quite terrible friday but it turned to be good in the end. I 
had my first girl-photo-shoot :)


A lituanian girl asked me to do some photos of her and this friday in 
heavy rain we went out (thanks for Pentax Weather Sealing) and took 
some pictures.


Well... long story short: We had a good time and in the end I think 
we had a few good shots.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3452600674

More on my stream.

Regards,
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Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography

2009-04-19 Thread Graydon
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 05:59:18PM +0100, Timbah! scripsit:
 One of the main problems is I've Pentax. Not kidding. An agency will
 never talk with someone who has Pentax. The minimum is Full Frame,
 which  Pentax not planning to release. With a Nikon D700 or Canon EOS
 5D (MK1)  I could start with luck :)

There's a fellow in another forum who does Paris fashion photography --
arty Paris fashion photography -- with K20Ds.  So it's possible.

How possible from where you're starting, I couldn't begin to say -- it's
not a business I know anything much about -- but you do have a very good
eye for people.

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Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/4/09, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

Mark Roberts wrote:

 Better photo. Camera on far left...

 http://cid-9c2325683f4c3b9c.skydrive.live.com/... .../IMG|_0153|_ps|_up.jpg

Try again:
http://cid-9c2325683f4c3b9c.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/%E6%91%84%E5%BD%
B1%E5%99%A8%E6%9D%90/PENTAX%20Rumors/IMG|_0153|_ps|_up.jpg



That URL is playing havoc with my mail app, I located it though - try
this if you have problems:

http://whbc7g.bay.livefilestore.com/
y1pc1BmmWVdqv5vxlWzZ0xujtGaD65zhXjB4N
HpSxJlL16Gj1w_AfzRJQdRC7OUUfGn7IMz_I_5-Zu1KXBYlZEyDg/IMG_0153_ps_up.jpg

http://tinyurl.com/dgaouw


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Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-19 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Mark Roberts

Subject: Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?




Try again:
http://cid-9c2325683f4c3b9c.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/%E6%91%84%E5%BD%B1%E5%99%A8%E6%9D%90/PENTAX%20Rumors/IMG|_0153|_ps|_up.jpg



Well, doesn't that almost look like the real deal. I wonder if we are 
finally going to get a camera that doesn't have one of those moronic pop up 
flashes.


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Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography

2009-04-19 Thread William Robb


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From: Timbah!

Subject: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography


One of the main problems is I've Pentax. Not kidding. An agency will never 
talk with someone who has Pentax. The minimum is Full Frame, which Pentax 
not planning to release. With a Nikon D700 or Canon EOS 5D (MK1) I could 
start with luck :)




I take it that agencies no longer care about the quality of the photographs 
so much as some of the less than important aspects of the technology of 
taking them?


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Re: VESO - Spring Garden

2009-04-19 Thread George Sinos
I'm sorry - the pattern matching circuits in my brain put VESO
together with Garden and came up with Vegatable Every So Often,  I
think I'll go take my nap now.

Nice video anyway.

see you later, gs

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 Taking a liberty here ;)

 Sunny day, an hour free, the garden beckons. Amazing what you can see
 from just a few square feet of space.


 Sony DSR-450 + Canon YJ 13X6 + Tiffen polariser + Final Cut

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Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-19 Thread Graydon
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 12:50:11PM -0400, Mark Roberts scripsit:
 Mark Roberts wrote:
 Better photo. Camera on far left...

 http://cid-9c2325683f4c3b9c.skydrive.live.com/... .../IMG|_0153|_ps|_up.jpg

 Try again:
 http://cid-9c2325683f4c3b9c.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/%E6%91%84%E5%BD%B1%E5%99%A8%E6%9D%90/PENTAX%20Rumors/IMG|_0153|_ps|_up.jpg

So that's, starting from the left, Unknown K20D successor, K20D, 645D,
K-m with something red happening to the shutter release button?

The thing I've concluded is the 645D has a very busy mode dial; I get
15 things.

The successor appears to have lost the green button.

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Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography

2009-04-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/4/09, Timbah!, discombobulated, unleashed:

One of the main problems is I've Pentax. Not kidding. An agency will
never talk with someone who has Pentax. The minimum is Full Frame, which
Pentax not planning to release. With a Nikon D700 or Canon EOS 5D (MK1)
I could start with luck :)

Also my equipment really lacks many things to become a professional. All
the shots with Dovile was made with the FA 50 f1.4 and I had some bad
experience with the focusing speed and accuracy of the K20D.

It also made me think about Pentax and Professional Photography.

Pentax is the very best amateur level camera and so far I know they
always were in the 35mm market. The Pentax K20D is a fantastic camera,
but it has some serious downs. The AF is really a pain in the rear
sometimes, not to mention the focus feedback with MF lenses. For Nature
it's very good since you have time, but for sport and fashion it's kinda
weak. I did 'journalist' photographies with a 40 years old Carl Zeiss
lens (f4/300) and it was way better than the other guy with a Canon EOS
40D + 70-200 f4 L (said the editor :P), but I often feel the need of
something quicker. I did live performance photography yesterday (a dutch
band called Kraak  Smaak played at Trafalgar Square) and many of my
shots seems to be just a little OOF.

The main problem is (I believe) that in this 'running' world you need to
keep the tempo or you will fail (Minolta is one of the best examples).
Also Samsung seem to be getting independent from Pentax as the EVIL
system was developed alone and they don't want to share it with Pentax.
Without Samsung I wonder how well Pentax will suceed, but I am afraid it
might have difficulties.

So all in all I wonder what Pentax will do... but they need something BIG :)

My point would be that your pictures speak for themselves. Any fashion
editor will see straight away that there is talent there - and all you
need is a starting point. Are you already working in London? Can you
print off and do you have a portfolio? If you could get a gig as an
assistant, that's one of the best ways in to the industry. Earn some
money, and you'll get access to the right kit as you go, either by
borrowing or buying.

I'm afraid all my London contacts are film and TV. I do have some stills
friends in my neck of the woods, I could see if anyone knows where the
best place to look might be

email me offlist if you want to take it further.




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Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography

2009-04-19 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Graydon

Subject: Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography





There's a fellow in another forum who does Paris fashion photography --
arty Paris fashion photography -- with K20Ds.  So it's possible.


Ben is our hero. Very often if someone points out that there may be a flaw 
in the Pentax line-up, the fanboys trot him out like an old war horse to 
prove that anything can be done with a Pentax.

Were I him I'd be switching brands just to put an end to it.

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Re: VESO - Spring Garden

2009-04-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/4/09, George Sinos, discombobulated, unleashed:

I'm sorry - the pattern matching circuits in my brain put VESO
together with Garden and came up with Vegatable Every So Often,  I
think I'll go take my nap now.

Nice video anyway.

see you later, gs

Thanks George. Video Every So Often ;-)

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Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography

2009-04-19 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 1:13 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:

 - Original Message - From: Graydon
 Subject: Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography




 There's a fellow in another forum who does Paris fashion photography --
 arty Paris fashion photography -- with K20Ds.  So it's possible.

 Ben is our hero. Very often if someone points out that there may be a flaw
 in the Pentax line-up, the fanboys trot him out like an old war horse to
 prove that anything can be done with a Pentax.
 Were I him I'd be switching brands just to put an end to it.

 William Robb


Ben likes being a big fish in a puddle. He's not going to switch to
any system that would leave him without his legion of adoring fanboys.



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2009-04-19 Thread William Robb
My friend Lyndsaye wanted to do a themed shoot. She wanted to emulate an 
entertainer named Christine Aguilare or some such.

She brought along costumes and wigs and all sorts of ideas.
Anyway, against my better judgement, I'm throwing this very QD gallery out.
It starts of OK, gets silly and then perhaps a little tacky at the end.
Possibly not office safe.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/lyndsaye/Lyndsaye4/index.html

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Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography

2009-04-19 Thread Timbah!
Yeah, it's possible, but I might need really good connections for that 
:) But yet... I only have FA 50 and DA 12-24 in my arsenal. I don't even 
have a flash :D So I think I am a bit far from trying to be a fashion 
photographer. What I try now is to send some pictures to the 
socialstock.co.uk page.


.t

Graydon wrote:

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 05:59:18PM +0100, Timbah! scripsit:
  

One of the main problems is I've Pentax. Not kidding. An agency will
never talk with someone who has Pentax. The minimum is Full Frame,
which  Pentax not planning to release. With a Nikon D700 or Canon EOS
5D (MK1)  I could start with luck :)



There's a fellow in another forum who does Paris fashion photography --
arty Paris fashion photography -- with K20Ds.  So it's possible.

How possible from where you're starting, I couldn't begin to say -- it's
not a business I know anything much about -- but you do have a very good
eye for people.

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Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-19 Thread Adam Maas
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 1:06 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:

 - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts
 Subject: Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?



 Try again:

 http://cid-9c2325683f4c3b9c.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/%E6%91%84%E5%BD%B1%E5%99%A8%E6%9D%90/PENTAX%20Rumors/IMG|_0153|_ps|_up.jpg


 Well, doesn't that almost look like the real deal. I wonder if we are
 finally going to get a camera that doesn't have one of those moronic pop up
 flashes.

 William Robb


Those popup flashes are too useful for anybody doing wireless TTL
flash (which is a lot of people these days).

I do kinda wish they'd replace them with IR transmitters though, the
popups aren't all that useful as flashes, just as wireless controllers
and AF assists.



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Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography

2009-04-19 Thread Boris Liberman

Timber, I am thinking of a number of points here. In no particular order.

1. You're very talented indeed. I couldn't compare with other 
photographers, notably local ones, but few guys in my local camera club 
have K10Ds and assortment of lenses, usually Tamron 28-75/2.8 and some 
more. At least one of them has exactly that and he keeps getting prices, 
medals and the honors in these international competitions to where he 
keeps sending his photos. He usually shoots on the streets, meaning that 
somehow he is fast enough.


2. If you have problems with focusing then I suggest two things:
a. Get a Katz Eye screen. It works wonders and it will also allow you to 
see in real time if your AF is where you want it to be.
b. Given your eye sight (mine being very weak) you might want to buy the 
viewfinder magnifier. I've got one recently and although it does not 
have revolutionary effect, it is still very nice and it makes my eyes 
strain less.


3. But of course if you say that these guys up there don't like that you 
shoot with Pentax, then you might have to at least buy some into another 
system, whatever it would have to be.


4. I tried few times to do casual shooting on the street with FA 43/1.9 
and it seemed snappy enough for my needs. Also I remember that FA 50/1.7 
wasn't a slouch either. I don't doubt your shooting technique, but may 
be some special trial-and-error or self-training sessions may be of help.


Boris


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Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-19 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Adam Maas

Subject: Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?





Those popup flashes are too useful for anybody doing wireless TTL
flash (which is a lot of people these days).



This would explain why I think they are useless. I still haven't mastered 
TTL flash, and I use Pocket Wizards for wireless...


William Robb


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Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography

2009-04-19 Thread Timbah!

William Robb wrote:


I take it that agencies no longer care about the quality of the 
photographs so much as some of the less than important aspects of the 
technology of taking them?


William Robb

Everyone can have a few lucky shots (as you can see even me! :P)

Don't get me wrong, I love Pentax and as every pentaxian I am a 
latent-Nikon-fan too and the D700 is really really tempting (like the 
dark side :D) I don't want to change. I am happy with my Pentax K20D and 
the good old Jupiter-9 f2/85 :) Just it's not a setup that an agency 
would like to see :) So technology does matters a lot...


Also if you want to do product-pictures the 14 megapixel is not enough. 
For example you make a photo of a product it has to be at least 20 MPix 
to be good enough for city-advertisements. At least that's what I was 
told... :)


I would love to work as a photographer once (for now I think retoucher 
or assistant is more suitable for me), but it's not easy to find such a 
job... :)


.t

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RE: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-19 Thread Bob W
 
 Those popup flashes are too useful for anybody doing wireless TTL
 flash (which is a lot of people these days).
 
 I do kinda wish they'd replace them with IR transmitters though, the
 popups aren't all that useful as flashes, just as wireless controllers
 and AF assists.
 

I think they should replace them with a pop-up whistling canary to make
children laugh.

Bob


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Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography

2009-04-19 Thread Graydon
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 11:13:08AM -0600, William Robb scripsit:
 - Original Message - From: Graydon
 Subject: Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography
 There's a fellow in another forum who does Paris fashion photography --
 arty Paris fashion photography -- with K20Ds.  So it's possible.

 Ben is our hero. Very often if someone points out that there may be a 
 flaw in the Pentax line-up,

Of course there are glaring flaws in the Pentax line-up.  (Want my list?
:)

There are glaring flaws in the Sony, Nikon, and Canon lineups, too.
There are glaring flaws in everything wrought by the hand of man.

I would not generally say that the especial bad flaws in the Pentax
line-up are at the studio-lights-and-short-primes end of things.

-- Graydon

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Re: VESO - Spring Garden

2009-04-19 Thread Christine Aguila


From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com


Please take more of this liberty in the future.

Boris



Hear!  Hear!  The 3 bird sequences, Cotty, are really great!--especially 
following the bird in the tree  when he pops out of the branches that's 
just great!  The 1st sequence with the stick in the beak and the plane smoke 
was great.  And like Boris said, the music is great!  I don't remember 
seeing the original post.  Must have missed it.  Oh, nice work on the 
alternating DOF too.  Very nice.  Cheers, Christine 




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RE:

2009-04-19 Thread Bob W

 My friend Lyndsaye wanted to do a themed shoot. She wanted 
 to emulate an 
 entertainer named Christine Aguilare or some such.


She's a PDMLer, isn't she. I didn't know she was famous. 

 She brought along costumes and wigs and all sorts of ideas.

My kinda gal.

 Anyway, against my better judgement, I'm throwing this very 
 QD gallery out.
 It starts of OK, gets silly and then perhaps a little tacky 
 at the end.

Mmm. Tacky!

 Possibly not office safe.
 
 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/lyndsaye/Lyndsaye4/i
 ndex.html
 
 Brought to you my the letters D and A and the numbers 55 and 5.6
 

I wish all PDMLers would dress like sailors. I know I do.

Bob


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Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-19 Thread Graydon
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 06:26:04PM +0100, Bob W scripsit:
  Those popup flashes are too useful for anybody doing wireless TTL
  flash (which is a lot of people these days).
  
  I do kinda wish they'd replace them with IR transmitters though, the
  popups aren't all that useful as flashes, just as wireless controllers
  and AF assists.
 
 I think they should replace them with a pop-up whistling canary to make
 children laugh.

If they're going to add GPS, of course they need to add text-to-speech
so it can give you driving directions to where you took that good
picture last week.  At which point market forces require the
text-to-speech to support selection of voices, and it is the merest
bagatelle to have a camera able to tell your subject to say cheese in
the voice of Darth Vader.

-- Graydon

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RE: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography

2009-04-19 Thread Bob W
 something quicker. I did live performance photography 
 yesterday (a dutch 
 band called Kraak  Smaak played at Trafalgar Square)

Sex  drugs  Rock 'n' Roll all in one band name - that's very creative.

Bob 



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Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography

2009-04-19 Thread George Sinos
At this point it would take something like a job requirement to get me
to switch.

A few weeks ago I was contemplating full frame.  I stopped into our
local camera store when they were having a slow afternoon and started
pricing what it would cost to switch to a reasonable kit based around
the Nikon D700.

So, I totaled up a the d700, a couple of sb900 speedlights, a couple
of fast zooms with vibration reduction, a few CF cards and some misc.
minor supporting pieces.  When the total climbed past $12,000 I
stopped, took my price list home, and applied a bit of
rationalization.

I questioned if my equipment had ever stopped me from doing anything.
I then asked if it was likely to stop me from doing anything I could
think of doing in the next few years.  The answer, for me, was no.

So, I decided to put this decision off until the day when I could no
longer accomplish my goals with the Pentax system, or the company
itself went down the drain.

If that day comes, I can make a decision based on real requirements,
as opposed to my imaginary what if I want to

If I was looking at a paying job that required that kind of a cash
outlay, the figure would look small. That day comes at different times
for different people.  I can see that it would be a tough decision for
anyone.

The next day I went back to the camera store and bought the the pentax
100mm macro lens, saving over $11.000.

See you later, gs
http://georgesphotos.net

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Timbah! tim...@clancode.hu wrote:
 One of the main problems is I've Pentax. Not kidding. An agency will never
 talk with someone who has Pentax. The minimum is Full Frame, which Pentax
 not planning to release. With a Nikon D700 or Canon EOS 5D (MK1) I could
 start with luck :)

 Also my equipment really lacks many things to become a professional. All the
 shots with Dovile was made with the FA 50 f1.4 and I had some bad
 experience with the focusing speed and accuracy of the K20D.

 It also made me think about Pentax and Professional Photography.

 Pentax is the very best amateur level camera and so far I know they always
 were in the 35mm market. The Pentax K20D is a fantastic camera, but it has
 some serious downs. The AF is really a pain in the rear sometimes, not to
 mention the focus feedback with MF lenses. For Nature it's very good since
 you have time, but for sport and fashion it's kinda weak. I did 'journalist'
 photographies with a 40 years old Carl Zeiss lens (f4/300) and it was way
 better than the other guy with a Canon EOS 40D + 70-200 f4 L (said the
 editor :P), but I often feel the need of something quicker. I did live
 performance photography yesterday (a dutch band called Kraak  Smaak played
 at Trafalgar Square) and many of my shots seems to be just a little OOF.

 The main problem is (I believe) that in this 'running' world you need to
 keep the tempo or you will fail (Minolta is one of the best examples). Also
 Samsung seem to be getting independent from Pentax as the EVIL system was
 developed alone and they don't want to share it with Pentax. Without Samsung
 I wonder how well Pentax will suceed, but I am afraid it might have
 difficulties.

 So all in all I wonder what Pentax will do... but they need something BIG :)

 .t

 Ps I can't do professional photography work because I lack the two
 E-factor: Experience and Equipment :D

 Christine Aguila wrote:

 Wow!  Stunning!  You've picked some gorgeous women to photograph.  Your
 style is so distinct, Timber--really great!  Sorry to hear about
 Friday--what was it about last week?

 Anyway--I'd follow Cotty's suggestion and get your work out there and to
 the London agencies!
 Cheers, Christine



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 Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 10:18 AM
 Subject: GESO: Meet Dovile :)


 Hi list,

 I had a quite terrible friday but it turned to be good in the end. I had
 my first girl-photo-shoot :)

 A lituanian girl asked me to do some photos of her and this friday in
 heavy rain we went out (thanks for Pentax Weather Sealing) and took some
 pictures.

 Well... long story short: We had a good time and in the end I think we
 had a few good shots.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3452600674

 More on my stream.

 Regards,
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Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-19 Thread Christine Aguila


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From: Bob W p...@web-options.com




I think they should replace them with a pop-up whistling canary to make
children laugh.


LOL VERY LOUDLY  CONTINUOUSLY!  you're an original, Bob.


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Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-19 Thread John Celio

Better photo. Camera on far left...

http://cid-9c2325683f4c3b9c.skydrive.live.com/... 
.../IMG|_0153|_ps|_up.jpg


Try again:
http://cid-9c2325683f4c3b9c.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/%E6%91%84%E5%BD%B1%E5%99%A8%E6%9D%90/PENTAX%20Rumors/IMG|_0153|_ps|_up.jpg


Interesting.  In this photo it looks like there's no visible green button, 
and there is a pop-up flash (you can see a seam this time).  The flash's 
arms appear to be *much* longer than previous Pentax pop-up flashes, which 
is probably a good thing as far as red-eye is concerned.  Looks like they've 
made it more like Canon's pop-up flash (can we just shorten that to PUF?) 
design.


Here's an upscaled version of that photo:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/attachments/pentax-news-rumors/32877d1240156486-pic-k30d-mystery-pentax-upscaled-567.jpg

The lack of a green button suggests to me that it's a mid-range model, 
perhaps a replacement for the K200.  It's approximately closer in size to 
that model, too.


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Playing in the front yard

2009-04-19 Thread Larry Colen
I finally got my K20 back, but it seems that most of the pictures I
took yesterday were with my K100. I kept seeing things in my front
yard, and since the macro lens was already on the K100, that's the one
I grabbed.

I saw some miner's lettuce (unless I misidentified the plant) with the
white flower in the sun, and the petals from the camelia tree in the
background. The sun had moved by the time I got this shot, but I still
like it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3455472530/in/set-72157616945411789/

I also ended up shooting the petals on the ground. I can't choose
between this and another one with a different focus point, so flipping
a virtual coin:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3454658031/sizes/o/in/set-72157616945411789/

Shallow DoF:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3454688271/sizes/o/in/set-72157616945411789/

A bit more:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3454688575/sizes/o/in/set-72157616945411789/

The reason that the macro was on the K100 is that after sorting
through a lot of my shots, Zab had told me that she wanted me to take
a particular poppy shot. When she showed up at my office on Friday
(with a durian bubble tea for me), I sent her off to where the poppies
and tractor were to get the shot herself. My favorite of her series is
this one of the tractore engine in the fading sunlight:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3454673321/in/set-72157616945754853/

Her shots have some technical issues, but she seems to be getting a
decent eye.


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Astronomy Photographer of the Year

2009-04-19 Thread Bob W
This might be of interest to some of you:

http://www.nmm.ac.uk/visit/exhibitions/astronomy-photographer-of-the-year/

Bob


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Re: your mail

2009-04-19 Thread Graydon
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 11:18:45AM -0600, William Robb scripsit:
 My friend Lyndsaye wanted to do a themed shoot. She wanted to emulate 
 an entertainer named Christine Aguilare or some such.
 She brought along costumes and wigs and all sorts of ideas.
 Anyway, against my better judgement, I'm throwing this very QD gallery out.
 It starts of OK, gets silly and then perhaps a little tacky at the end.
 Possibly not office safe.

 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/lyndsaye/Lyndsaye4/index.html

 Brought to you my the letters D and A and the numbers 55 and 5.6

That is one merciless lens.

I think the dark green dress shots work best, particularly
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/lyndsaye/Lyndsaye4/content/WRDP3758_large.html
and
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/lyndsaye/Lyndsaye4/content/WRDP3810_large.html
which seem to have the 30s/40s film star body language and glowy skin
thing down cold.

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Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography

2009-04-19 Thread Larry Colen
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 01:27:54PM -0400, Graydon wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 11:13:08AM -0600, William Robb scripsit:
  - Original Message - From: Graydon
  Subject: Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography
  There's a fellow in another forum who does Paris fashion photography --
  arty Paris fashion photography -- with K20Ds.  So it's possible.
 
  Ben is our hero. Very often if someone points out that there may be a 
  flaw in the Pentax line-up,
 
 Of course there are glaring flaws in the Pentax line-up.  (Want my list?
 :)

To start with there is the 16-50, the 50-135 and the DFA100 macro that
aren't in my lens bag. At the moment, those are the most glaring flaws
in the Pentax line-up.

I'm a bit surprised that you've had photo editors say that they won't
hire you based solely on the brand of your camera body.


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Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography

2009-04-19 Thread AlunFoto
Timbah,
I missed your PESO, but I understand you have come up against the same
misconceptions as I have met, when trying to join up with online stock
agencies. Unfortunately, there are some agencies who categorically
dismiss Pentax on some lame excuse. Too much noise is a classic.
Just ignore them. On pure mischief you can submit the same pics again
and see what happens. I recently read about a Nikon guy who had 43 out
of 50 dismissed for the said reason, resumbmitted them and had 30
accepted. :-)

Personally, I'd say that anyone who dismiss Pentax on the sole reason
that it's Pentax is probably not going to be good agents for your
images anyway.

OTOH, one investment that's probably very wise is a good
noise-reduction thingamabob for your computer and learn how to use it
optimally. It'll probably shut up all of them straight. :-)

Jostein

2009/4/19 Timbah! tim...@clancode.hu:
 Yeah, it's possible, but I might need really good connections for that :)
 But yet... I only have FA 50 and DA 12-24 in my arsenal. I don't even have a
 flash :D So I think I am a bit far from trying to be a fashion photographer.
 What I try now is to send some pictures to the socialstock.co.uk page.

 .t

 Graydon wrote:

 On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 05:59:18PM +0100, Timbah! scripsit:


 One of the main problems is I've Pentax. Not kidding. An agency will
 never talk with someone who has Pentax. The minimum is Full Frame,
 which  Pentax not planning to release. With a Nikon D700 or Canon EOS
 5D (MK1)  I could start with luck :)


 There's a fellow in another forum who does Paris fashion photography --
 arty Paris fashion photography -- with K20Ds.  So it's possible.

 How possible from where you're starting, I couldn't begin to say -- it's
 not a business I know anything much about -- but you do have a very good
 eye for people.

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Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-19 Thread Thibouille
Unknown, K20D, K200D, K-M/K2000

The center one is  a lot too smaller for a 645D, 645D has less modes
on the knob and K200D has lots of them (all the macro blabla auto
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Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography

2009-04-19 Thread AlunFoto
2009/4/19 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:
 To start with there is the 16-50, the 50-135 and the DFA100 macro that
 aren't in my lens bag. At the moment, those are the most glaring flaws
 in the Pentax line-up.

Heh.
Your line-up, you mean?

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Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography

2009-04-19 Thread pnstenquist
If you find the jobs, you can do some professional work, regardless of 
equipment brand. But there are far more good photographers than there are paid 
shoots, so you have to dig. There are some imbeciles out there who specify 
brand, but who wants to work for imbeciles?
Paul
- Timbah! tim...@clancode.hu wrote:

 One of the main problems is I've Pentax. Not kidding. An agency will 
 never talk with someone who has Pentax. The minimum is Full Frame,
 which 
 Pentax not planning to release. With a Nikon D700 or Canon EOS 5D
 (MK1) 
 I could start with luck :)
 
 Also my equipment really lacks many things to become a professional.
 All 
 the shots with Dovile was made with the FA 50 f1.4 and I had some bad
 
 experience with the focusing speed and accuracy of the K20D.
 
 It also made me think about Pentax and Professional Photography.
 
 Pentax is the very best amateur level camera and so far I know they 
 always were in the 35mm market. The Pentax K20D is a fantastic camera,
 
 but it has some serious downs. The AF is really a pain in the rear 
 sometimes, not to mention the focus feedback with MF lenses. For
 Nature 
 it's very good since you have time, but for sport and fashion it's
 kinda 
 weak. I did 'journalist' photographies with a 40 years old Carl Zeiss
 
 lens (f4/300) and it was way better than the other guy with a Canon
 EOS 
 40D + 70-200 f4 L (said the editor :P), but I often feel the need of 
 something quicker. I did live performance photography yesterday (a
 dutch 
 band called Kraak  Smaak played at Trafalgar Square) and many of my 
 shots seems to be just a little OOF.
 
 The main problem is (I believe) that in this 'running' world you need
 to 
 keep the tempo or you will fail (Minolta is one of the best examples).
 
 Also Samsung seem to be getting independent from Pentax as the EVIL 
 system was developed alone and they don't want to share it with
 Pentax. 
 Without Samsung I wonder how well Pentax will suceed, but I am afraid
 it 
 might have difficulties.
 
 So all in all I wonder what Pentax will do... but they need something
 BIG :)
 
 .t
 
 Ps I can't do professional photography work because I lack the two 
 E-factor: Experience and Equipment :D
 
 Christine Aguila wrote:
  Wow!  Stunning!  You've picked some gorgeous women to photograph.  
  Your style is so distinct, Timber--really great!  Sorry to hear
 about 
  Friday--what was it about last week?
 
  Anyway--I'd follow Cotty's suggestion and get your work out there
 and 
  to the London agencies!
  Cheers, Christine
 
 
 
  - Original Message - From: Timbah! tim...@clancode.hu
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 10:18 AM
  Subject: GESO: Meet Dovile :)
 
 
  Hi list,
 
  I had a quite terrible friday but it turned to be good in the end.
 I 
  had my first girl-photo-shoot :)
 
  A lituanian girl asked me to do some photos of her and this friday
 in 
  heavy rain we went out (thanks for Pentax Weather Sealing) and took
 
  some pictures.
 
  Well... long story short: We had a good time and in the end I think
 
  we had a few good shots.
 
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3452600674
 
  More on my stream.
 
  Regards,
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Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-19 Thread Graydon
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 07:59:05PM +0200, Thibouille scripsit:
 Unknown, K20D, K200D, K-M/K2000
 
 The center one is  a lot too smaller for a 645D, 645D has less modes
 on the knob and K200D has lots of them (all the macro blabla auto
 programs).

OK, yes, K200D.  Thank you.

Got fooled by the apparent relative size, there.

That's a left-to-right model progression, then.

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Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-19 Thread John Celio

Try again:
http://cid-9c2325683f4c3b9c.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/%E6%91%84%E5%BD%B1%E5%99%A8%E6%9D%90/PENTAX%20Rumors/IMG|_0153|_ps|_up.jpg


So that's, starting from the left, Unknown K20D successor, K20D, 645D,
K-m with something red happening to the shutter release button?

The thing I've concluded is the 645D has a very busy mode dial; I get
15 things.


There's no 645D within a mile of that photo.  I keep seeing people (here and 
on Pentax Forums) saying every camera they see that doesn't look familliar 
is a 645D, which just drives me up the wall.  The 645D is BIG and square and 
looks nothing like any of those other cameras.


http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/attachments/pentax-medium-format-645-6x7-645d/31422d1238320688-pentax-645d-removable-back-1photo-200907-02b.jpg

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Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-19 Thread Graydon
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 11:11:19AM -0700, John Celio scripsit:
[snip]
 There's no 645D within a mile of that photo.  I keep seeing people (here 
 and on Pentax Forums) saying every camera they see that doesn't look 
 familliar is a 645D, which just drives me up the wall.  The 645D is BIG 
 and square and looks nothing like any of those other cameras.

I was going on the basis of OK, that's the K20D, that one looks bigger,
only one thing that could be... and being very wrong in consequence.

 http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/attachments/pentax-medium-format-645-6x7-645d/31422d1238320688-pentax-645d-removable-back-1photo-200907-02b.jpg

Thank you!

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Re: (no subject)

2009-04-19 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/19/2009 10:19:11 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
war...@gmail.com writes:
My friend Lyndsaye wanted to  do a themed shoot. She wanted to emulate an 
entertainer named Christine  Aguilare or some such.
She brought along costumes and wigs and all sorts of  ideas.
Anyway, against my better judgement, I'm throwing this very QD  gallery 
out.
It starts of OK, gets silly and then perhaps a little tacky at  the end.
Possibly not office  safe.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/lyndsaye/Lyndsaye4/index.html

Brought  to you my the letters D and A and the numbers 55 and 5.6

William Robb  

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Actually, she looks quite a bit like her. Especially in  the sailor suit.

I like  this
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/lyndsaye/Lyndsaye4/content/WRDP387
0_large.html

and  this
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/lyndsaye/Lyndsaye4/content/WRDP368
0_large.html

The  more nude ones don't come across very sexy -- she looks  uncomfortable.

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Re: GESO: Meet Dovile :)

2009-04-19 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/19/2009 8:19:29 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
tim...@clancode.hu writes:
Hi list,

I had a  quite terrible friday but it turned to be good in the end. I had 
my first  girl-photo-shoot :)

A lituanian girl asked me to do some photos of her  and this friday in 
heavy rain we went out (thanks for Pentax Weather  Sealing) and took some 
pictures.

Well... long story short: We had a  good time and in the end I think we 
had a few good  shots.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3452600674

More on my  stream.

Regards,
.timber

==
All very good.  

http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3452601382/in/photostream/

I  like that best.

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Re:

2009-04-19 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Bob W p...@web-options.com

To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: 





My friend Lyndsaye wanted to do a themed shoot. She wanted 
to emulate an 
entertainer named Christine Aguilare or some such.


Gads, did I really forget to include a subject line?

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Re: Channeling Christine Aguilare --or some such

2009-04-19 Thread pnstenquist
Yep. Some fun pics there. 
- William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:

 - Original Message - 
 From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 11:29 AM
 Subject: RE: 
 
 
  
  My friend Lyndsaye wanted to do a themed shoot. She wanted 
  to emulate an 
  entertainer named Christine Aguilare or some such.
 
 Gads, did I really forget to include a subject line?
 
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Re: (no subject) because moron boy forgot one

2009-04-19 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: eactiv...@aol.com


Subject: Re: (no subject)




===
Actually, she looks quite a bit like her. Especially in  the sailor suit.


We did well then.


I like  this
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/lyndsaye/Lyndsaye4/content/WRDP387
0_large.html

and  this
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/lyndsaye/Lyndsaye4/content/WRDP368
0_large.html

The  more nude ones don't come across very sexy -- she looks 
uncomfortable.




The last ones were supposed to be the anger management phase or some such, 
so she is trying to look like an angry young woman. Unfortunately, she could 
hold the expression for about two seconds before bursting out laughing at 
the ridiculousness of the whole charade.
I think we would have done better had she been trying to look tough rather 
than angry.


Thanks for looking and commenting.

William Robb 



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Re:

2009-04-19 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Bob W 
Subject: RE: 









I wish all PDMLers would dress like sailors. I know I do.



My kind of sailor too.

William Robb

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Re: your mail

2009-04-19 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Graydon

Subject: Re: your mail




Brought to you my the letters D and A and the numbers 55 and 5.6


That is one merciless lens.


It's a strange bird. It's way too sharp for portraiture, but the AF is way 
to slow for general purpose.




I think the dark green dress shots work best, particularly
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/lyndsaye/Lyndsaye4/content/WRDP3758_large.html
and
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/lyndsaye/Lyndsaye4/content/WRDP3810_large.html
which seem to have the 30s/40s film star body language and glowy skin
thing down cold.



I suppose I should also have mentioned that it was brought to you by the 
word Imagenomic as well.


Thanks for looking and commenting

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Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-19 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 02:10:31PM -0400, Graydon wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 07:59:05PM +0200, Thibouille scripsit:
  Unknown, K20D, K200D, K-M/K2000
  
  The center one is  a lot too smaller for a 645D, 645D has less modes
  on the knob and K200D has lots of them (all the macro blabla auto
  programs).
 
 OK, yes, K200D.  Thank you.
 
 Got fooled by the apparent relative size, there.
 
 That's a left-to-right model progression, then.
 
 -- Graydon

K2D, anybody?   The temptation of 2/20/200/2000 might be irresistable.


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RE: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-19 Thread Bob W
   Unknown, K20D, K200D, K-M/K2000
   
   The center one is  a lot too smaller for a 645D, 645D has 
 less modes
   on the knob and K200D has lots of them (all the macro blabla auto
   programs).
  
  OK, yes, K200D.  Thank you.
  
  Got fooled by the apparent relative size, there.
  
  That's a left-to-right model progression, then.
  
  -- Graydon
 
 K2D, anybody?   The temptation of 2/20/200/2000 might be irresistable.
 

It's the K2

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Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-19 Thread Graydon
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 02:53:46PM -0400, John Francis scripsit:
 On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 02:10:31PM -0400, Graydon wrote:
  On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 07:59:05PM +0200, Thibouille scripsit:
   Unknown, K20D, K200D, K-M/K2000
   
   The center one is  a lot too smaller for a 645D, 645D has less modes
   on the knob and K200D has lots of them (all the macro blabla auto
   programs).
  
  OK, yes, K200D.  Thank you.
  
  Got fooled by the apparent relative size, there.
  
  That's a left-to-right model progression, then.
  
  -- Graydon
 
 K2D, anybody?   The temptation of 2/20/200/2000 might be irresistable.

K200D is pretty much discontinued, though, and the 2000 is the K-m
everywhere but the US, and the K20D is probably the new midrange
model; there isn't all that much feature-and-performance space in there
to support two models.

I'm expecting that the eventual announced name will be in Pentax
marketing's finest traditions of bewildering inexplicability.

-- Graydon, who really wishes he could convince himself that big boxy
viewfinder isn't some sort of high-end EVF horror.

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Re: Another camera problem

2009-04-19 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 11:49:14AM +0100, mike wilson wrote:
 So there is a menu item that says the LCD displays the number of shots  
 available in continuous shooting mode when shutter button is half  
 pressed. (Strictly, it swaps between number of shots left on card and  
 number available in continuous)

 But when I change from RAW 6mp to 1.5mp, jpg one star, the number shown  
 on the half-press remains at three.  It appears that modern technology  
 has finally managed to baffle this witless old fart.  Unless someone  
 here knows better.

Maybe the limit is how many shots can be buffered in the stage before
conversion to JPEG, not how many can be buffered between JPEG conversion
and eventual write to the memory card.

The K10D shows 24 when set to best-quality JPEGs, but in fact it is
capable of shooting JPEGs until the memory card fills up if you have
a fast enough card.

On that camera, though, the number does change (from 24 to 6) when
changing from JPEG to JPEG+RAW(DNG).



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Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-19 Thread Mark Roberts

Bob W wrote:

Unknown, K20D, K200D, K-M/K2000

The center one is  a lot too smaller for a 645D, 645D has 

less modes

on the knob and K200D has lots of them (all the macro blabla auto
programs).

OK, yes, K200D.  Thank you.

Got fooled by the apparent relative size, there.

That's a left-to-right model progression, then.


K2D, anybody?   The temptation of 2/20/200/2000 might be irresistable.


It's the K2


No, the K666. Bwahahaha!


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Springtime in Greenwich

2009-04-19 Thread Bob W
It was spring today, so I went for a walk to the cheese shop, and took some
pictures on the way. Unfortunately the cheese shop was closed, so I walked
up the hill to where Julius Caesar looked out over the unwary peasants in
the valley below, and I did the same thing.

http://www.web-options.com/Springtime/

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PESO - First quacker of the year

2009-04-19 Thread AlunFoto
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Practicing at Østensjøvannet.

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Re:

2009-04-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/4/09, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed:


My kind of sailor too.


Had a flick through an hour or so ago, and hubba hubba etc, but just had
a closer look now. There are some really nice shots in there

my favourite:

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/lyndsaye/Lyndsaye4/content/
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Re: PESO: A very ugly fly

2009-04-19 Thread Ken Waller

I assume it was taken hand held to assist in the 'hunting'.

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: PESO: A very ugly fly



Thanks, Some answers:
No magic applied here. Flies are best shot in the evening when they
cool down. This one was really hibernating for the night.
Lens F100/2.8 macro with the AF160FC. This ringflash is superb for
macros like this. I've set one side to 100% and the other to 50% which
puts some contrast in the subject. The assist light is also very handy
for bug hunting at dusk.
The real challenge is the background, if the background is too far
away everything is pitch black. In this case a yellow flower is the
background. Very difficult to focus on the subject and also keep an
eye on the moving background. Nice to read you noticed the background!

Toine

2009/4/18 Toine to...@repiuk.nl:

http://tinyurl.com/dcsmx2

Click on the image for a fullscreen version.

Toine



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Re: Springtime in Greenwich

2009-04-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/4/09, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

It was spring today, so I went for a walk to the cheese shop,

Any Red Leicester?

I like this:

http://www.web-options.com/Springtime/content/L9990067_large.html

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Re: Bad Week and a PESO

2009-04-19 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 07:32:51PM -0500, Christine  Aguila wrote:
 Hi Everyone:  Not such a good week:  I got ill, hurt my knee, work's 
 insane, and a friend of ours has died unexpectedly--so I haven't been 

Ouch! even worse than my week.

 PDMLing much. But today I ignored all responsibility  went downtown for a 
 bit of a walkabout--as a way to kind of cheer myself up.

Good idea. 

 
 Some light bulbs under some scaffolding caught my eye, and I was trying to 
 do something fancy with it (but it was all silly stuff), when out of my 
 left eye I noticed this lovely woman sitting down having a smoke.  She just 
 kept staring at me, so I spun'round and took her picture.
 
 Folks familiar with Chicago, know that it can get pretty shady near the El 
 tracks, but I got some lucky light here.  Chicago folks will also notice 
 the very famous pub sign in the background.  My work server won't let me in 
 for some reason, so I've posted this on my photo.net site.
 
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8989832

Very nice shot, especially the light.

Just under two weeks until I'm in Chicago.  I guess it's time to start
making plans.


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Re: VESO - Spring Garden

2009-04-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/4/09, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

 I don't remember
seeing the original post.  Must have missed it.  Oh, nice work on the
alternating DOF too.  Very nice.  Cheers, Christine

You're too kind Christine. But you'll have first hand experience at GFM.
I will (hopefully) be bringing a small video camra with me and picking
up some odds and ends - I nee lots of stuff of photographers doing their
thang, and lots of them talking about it ;)

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Re: OT Opinions needed

2009-04-19 Thread Ken Waller

How about 'Pictures from the place north  south of Michigan'? ;-]

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Subject: Re: OT Opinions needed



Well, I like the suggestion  Focus on Rural Ontario.  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
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Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 5:52 AM
Subject: OT Opinions needed



Hi all.

Some time over the next month or so, i'm going to change my Gif on my
home page, to reflect less equine and more rural photography.(Guess
what i have decided to stop doing now.:-))

Any way, my mane area of interest is rural landscapes on Ontario. Not
excluding the rest of Canada, but i don't get out as much as i used
to.:-)

I plan on having a collage type gif with a catch phrase probably
written underneast the gif.

I'm looking at these so far.:

Focused on rural Ontario
Focusing on images of rural Ontario.
Focusing on rural Ontario

What say they. Any one of these appeal to you all.??

Dave

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Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/4/09, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

LOL VERY LOUDLY  CONTINUOUSLY!  you're an original, Bob.


I'm not kidding Bob, I was sat out in the garden just now (getting a bit
chilly) and I could swear I heard her.

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Re: Who wants to see a clue as to next Pentax DSLRs ?

2009-04-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/4/09, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:

K2D, anybody?   The temptation of 2/20/200/2000 might be irresistable.

The hat has just gone into standby mode..

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