Re: Rumor of a new intro Pentax Body

[steve harley]

on 2012-05-20 21:50 Boris Liberman wrote

Although I know that you're a car enthusiast, Bob, I still think that cars can
be a valid analogy. If you live in NYC or Chicago or Tel Aviv for that matter,
do you really absolutely certainly need the likes of modern sports cars? Is
acceleration from 0 to 60 MPH in 5 sec going to be a decisive factor for you vs
the car that does so in 10 sec. In theory it may serve you well if you need to
accelerate to escape a predicament on the road (*). But in the big city such a
situation is possibly improbable anyway. The smaller, more frugal or less
polluting engine is an entirely different story, and even more so in the big
cities...


having recently sat in an Audi S3 while a friend did some rather dramatic 
driving in central Washington, DC, i think some people find an urban benefit 
for massive acceleration …


but most probably don't, and in that the analogy to cameras is probably apt



(*) It may be argued that if you get into such a situation or get close to it 
every now and then, you better not to drive at all or drive a slow car so as to 
force you to less aggressive driving.


in my friend's case, i worry for him and i do wish he drove a slower car

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Re: Earthquake

[Bob Sullivan]

Dario,
Glad to hear you are well.  Between you and Dave Mann, things are
getting a bit shaky on the pdml.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>>
>> Hi John, boys & all are OK.
>> Here are the cracks:
>> www.dariobonazza.com/public/Cracks.jpg
>> Those on the wall (right) were already there (one of them is now longer
>> though), while their counterparts on the white ceiling (left) are brand
>> new.
>> Cheers,
>> Dario
>>
>
> Glad you're all ok. Are they just cracks in the plaster, or in something
> important?
>
> B
>
>> -Messaggio originale-
>> From: John Coyle
>> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 9:24 AM
>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
>> Subject: RE: Earthquake
>>
>> Very glad to hear you are unhurt, Dario - is the damage to your house
>> very severe?
>> Were the boys Ok too?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> John Coyle
>> Brisbane, Australia
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
>> Dario Bonazza
>> Sent: Monday, 21 May 2012 4:49 PM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Earthquake
>>
>> This past weekend, while putting together and running our Pentax Day in
>> Anzola Emilia, a Richter 6 earthquake took place in that area (not far
>> from where I live).
>> There are dead
>> and injured persons and quite heavy damage to old & new buildings. My
>> house shows some cracks too.
>> News:
>> http://earthquake-report.com/en/2012/05/20/very-strong-shallow-
>> earthquake-kills-at-least-3
>> -people-in-the-mantua-ferrara-and-modena-area-italy/
>>
>> Pics: http://tinyurl.com/7rg6d7a
>>
>> Dario
>>
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Re: Today's Peace Rally

[Paul Stenquist]

On May 21, 2012, at 1:00 PM, steve harley wrote:

> on 2012-05-20 19:19 Christine Aguila wrote
>> Anyway, I'm glad we went to see this historic event.  To be sure, I mainly 
>> went as spectator and photographer.
>> 
>> http://www.caguila.com/natoshort
> 
> very engaging set; i like how you distilled the messages and personalities, 
> including a few extreme ones
> 
> "don't trade on me!" is a new one for me
> 

Yeah, that one caught my eye as well. Aside from the fact that it's an 
excellent photograph, it left me wondering if they're for or against corn. 
Personally, I come and go on that. At this time of year, when we're gettin' 
week-old Florida corn, I'm agin it. Soon, when the crop comes in, I'll be fur 
it. 

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RE: Earthquake

[Bob W]

> 
> Hi John, boys & all are OK.
> Here are the cracks:
> www.dariobonazza.com/public/Cracks.jpg
> Those on the wall (right) were already there (one of them is now longer
> though), while their counterparts on the white ceiling (left) are brand
> new.
> Cheers,
> Dario
> 

Glad you're all ok. Are they just cracks in the plaster, or in something
important?

B

> -Messaggio originale-
> From: John Coyle
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 9:24 AM
> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> Subject: RE: Earthquake
> 
> Very glad to hear you are unhurt, Dario - is the damage to your house
> very severe?
> Were the boys Ok too?
> 
> Regards
> 
> John Coyle
> Brisbane, Australia
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Dario Bonazza
> Sent: Monday, 21 May 2012 4:49 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Earthquake
> 
> This past weekend, while putting together and running our Pentax Day in
> Anzola Emilia, a Richter 6 earthquake took place in that area (not far
> from where I live).
> There are dead
> and injured persons and quite heavy damage to old & new buildings. My
> house shows some cracks too.
> News:
> http://earthquake-report.com/en/2012/05/20/very-strong-shallow-
> earthquake-kills-at-least-3
> -people-in-the-mantua-ferrara-and-modena-area-italy/
> 
> Pics: http://tinyurl.com/7rg6d7a
> 
> Dario
> 
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Re: Rumor of a new intro Pentax Body

[steve harley]

on 2012-05-21 10:35 Charles Robinson wrote

Does anyone else look at the K30 as a potential upgrade from the K7?


unless it has major advantages, or is priced around $600, i would probably 
choose a price-reduced K5


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RE: PESO -- Which lens. which lens?

[Bob W]

> 
> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Bob W  wrote:
> > Having his hat on backwards has obviously confused him about which
> way
> > round his head is.
> 
> Ordinarily, I would agree with Bob. However, have you ever tried to use
> a DSLR with the cap's bill facing in the proper direction? I usually
> point it to one side which makes me look like a real Goober.
> 

That's why I bought a Leica! It would have been cheaper to buy a fez.

In fact, I do swivel my cap from time to time, but always furtively and for
as short a time as I can.

B


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Re: Today's Peace Rally

[steve harley]

on 2012-05-21 10:02 Daniel J. Matyola wrote

I love the dude in the tree!  Nice photographic journalism.

As to the protesters, I only regret I don't have my old F-4B available
to pay them a visit.


i'm _glad_ you don't have it — your days of defending the constitution seem to 
be over


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Re: Today's Peace Rally

[steve harley]

on 2012-05-20 19:19 Christine Aguila wrote

Anyway, I'm glad we went to see this historic event.  To be sure, I mainly went 
as spectator and photographer.

http://www.caguila.com/natoshort


very engaging set; i like how you distilled the messages and personalities, 
including a few extreme ones


"don't trade on me!" is a new one for me

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Re: PESO -- Which lens. which lens?

[Paul Sorenson]

Silly...!!  You put the hat on facing the usual way, then turn it to 
engage the latches so it doesn't blow off.  Some lock at a quarter turn, 
some at a half turn.


I thought everybody knew that...   ; >)

-p

On 5/21/2012 7:37 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Bob W  wrote:

Having his hat on backwards has obviously confused him about which way round
his head is.


Ordinarily, I would agree with Bob. However, have you ever tried to
use a DSLR with the cap's bill facing in the proper direction? I
usually point it to one side which makes me look like a real Goober.



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Re: Rumor of a new intro Pentax Body

[Matthew Hunt]

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:

> I wonder what the downside(s) would be.  For starters, it doesn't look like 
> the mode dial on top has a lock.  And I'm not sure there is an LCD display on 
> the top... but what other things appear to be missing?

I just started making a list. I welcome additions. It's based on this
leaked set of specifications:
http://stdw.us/J8KF5j

K-30 relative to K-5:

+ video improvements (H.264, frame rates, etc.)
+ focus peaking
+ mysterious AF improvements ("i" in SAFOX version number)
+ AA battery support

- ISO 51200 (K-30 = 25600)
- top LCD
- no 1/8000 shutter (K-30 = 1/6000)
- slower FPS (but only slightly, 6 FPS, not 4 FPS as previously leaked)
- 14 bit ADC? (guess based on re-using the K-01 sensor & processor)

TBD: AF fine tuning, full IS capabilities (sensor shift for
composition adjustment, rotation axis, O-GPS1 astrotracer support),
intervalometer, level, quietness... what else?

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Re: NATO Nurses Rally at Daley Plaza Today

[steve harley]

on 2012-05-19 24:53 Christine Aguila wrote

http://www.caguila.com/natonurses


thanks Christine, i really appreciate this and the other protest photography 
that is shared on PDML; though i'm enamored of photography as an art and a 
practice, documentation of our times is a vital service


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Re: Rumor of a new intro Pentax Body

[Charles Robinson]

On May 18, 2012, at 2:56, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:

> - Mensaje original -
> 
>> De: Boris Liberman 
> 
>> With cautious optimism diluted with a small portion of educatedness I
>> submit to the court that I am starting to get a feeling of deja vu
>> from mid 2000's when we had plethora of cameras all sporting the very
>> same 6 MP sensor... Anyone else care to join me in my deja vu?
>> 
> 
> I woud say that, after the 6mpix era, Pentax is using the same sensor in 2-3 
> bodies:
> 
> 10 Mpix in K10D, K200D and K-m
> 12 Mpix in K-x and k-r
> 14 Mpix in K20D and K-7
> 16 Mpix in K-5 and K-30 (and k-01 but this is a different category for me).
> So it should be enough for this sensor...
> 

Does anyone else look at the K30 as a potential upgrade from the K7?

It looks to me like a less-expensive way to transition up to the better ISO 
performance of the K5 without quite the financial hit.  

I wonder what the downside(s) would be.  For starters, it doesn't look like the 
mode dial on top has a lock.  And I'm not sure there is an LCD display on the 
top... but what other things appear to be missing?

 -Charles

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Re: PESO -- Which lens. which lens?

[Charles Robinson]

On May 21, 2012, at 7:37, Darren Addy wrote:

> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Bob W  wrote:
>> Having his hat on backwards has obviously confused him about which way round
>> his head is.
> 
> Ordinarily, I would agree with Bob. However, have you ever tried to
> use a DSLR with the cap's bill facing in the proper direction? I
> usually point it to one side which makes me look like a real Goober.
> 

I agree. 

"IQ Reduction Mode" is required for caps when used in conjunction with an SLR.  

Unless you're using LiveView, but then maybe you're already operating in low-IQ 
mode then!

All in good fun...

 -Charles

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Good News for 110 owners

[George Sinos]

A new 110 B&W film for your pentax 110 camera.



gs

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Re: GESO: Silly bird

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nice portfolio.  Eagles are difficult to photograph, and you did quite well.
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On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Tim Bray  wrote:
> As photographs, only so-so (I need a bigger lens); but amusing:
> http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/05/19/Eagle-Hygiene
>
> -T
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Re: PESO - The Good Neighbour

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Amusing title and a nice little composition.
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On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 9:42 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/05/good-neighbour.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.
>
> cheers,
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Re: PESO - Blue on Blue

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The bird is well captured, and I think the angle of the bare branch
somehow makes a strong composition.
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On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 11:23 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> Last time I was down by the Lake it was barren and grey.
>
> What a difference a month makes!  Today it was green, lush and filled
> with birds, including this little tree swallow:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/05/blue-on-blue.html
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> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
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Re: GESO: South Downs Way

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Nice!  Your images give a real feeling for the place.
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On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:09 AM, Chris Mitchell
 wrote:
> Hi all - I've been a bit quiet lately owing to being in the wilds of
> Hampshire and Sussex. Lots to catch up on by the looks of it.
>
> Karin and I walked the South Downs Way, a 100 mile footpath from
> Winchester to Eastbourne on the South coast. We did it over 10 days
> with an extra day in Lewes, the county town of East Sussex. Here's a
> flavour with a picture from each day:
> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/SouthDownsWay1/PAD/
>
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Re: Today's Peace Rally

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I love the dude in the tree!  Nice photographic journalism.

As to the protesters, I only regret I don't have my old F-4B available
to pay them a visit.

Dan
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On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Christine Aguila
 wrote:
>
> Thanks, Ann!  No, never got caught up in any violence.  All the pictures are 
> from the rally at Petrillo.  The wooded area turned into a staging area for 
> marchers, readying themselves to head down to McCormick place, so it was very 
> family orientated prior to the actual march.
>
> I was going to march, but in the end decided against it.  Even if I had 
> marched, I think I would have been just fine.  It was the Black Block 
> protesters (which I labeled Ninja protesters in the gallery) that for the 
> most part antagonized the police, but that was their intent, and if you view 
> the Chicago Tribune gallery, they got what they intended.
>
> Darrel went with me, and he would have marched if I wanted to, but in the end 
> I decided to keep us both safe, so we took some pictures, had lunch and a 
> coffee, then headed home on the EL.  Public transportation was a breeze.  I 
> expected heavier crowds, but never saw them.
>
> Rick Wormer's daughter is working as a street medic.  Maybe Rick will give a 
> different account via his daughter.
>
> To be sure, mine is a warm and fuzzy gallery of the event :-).  No 
> photojournalistic heroics on my part for yesterday's event. I was merely 
> tourist.
>
> Cheers, Christine/Chicago

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Re: New Pentax DA 50mm f/1.8

[Jeffery Smith]

Would this be the 50 mm DA lens that Pentax has on its lens "roadmap" for 2012? 
I'm thinking that the prohibitive price of their 55/1.4 necessitates a less 
expensive alternative.

Jeffery


On May 21, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Miserere wrote:

> 
> Available soon in a store near you (figure of speach) for $250 (or some 
> similar price in your local currency).
> 
> Blurb says it's an APS-C lens. Actually, it says it's a dedicated lens for 
> their K mount ILC cameras, so I wonder if this means it won't work on their 
> DSLR's... H...
> 
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Re: New Pentax DA 50mm f/1.8

[Matthew Hunt]

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Miserere  wrote:
> Matthew Hunt  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Miserere  wrote:
>>
>> > Blurb says it's an APS-C lens. Actually, it says it's a dedicated
>> lens for their K mount ILC cameras, so I wonder if this means it won't
>> work on their DSLR's... H...
>>
>> DSLRs are ILCs (interchangeable lens cameras). They're not MILCs
>> (mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras).
>
> ILC stands for Interchangeable Lens Compact. Of course, it could be Pentax 
> doesn't know this.

Whatever. Pentax, Nikon, Panasonic, and Sony (at least) have all
described their products as "interchangeable lens cameras". Wikipedia
says "ILC may refer to: Interchangeable Lens Camera, a class of camera
that comprise Single-lens reflex camera, Digital single-lens reflex
camera, Mirrorless interchangeable-lens camera and some Rangefinder
camera."

If you want to conclude, from your own certainty in what the
abbreviation *should* stand for, that the new lens won't work on
DSLRs, be my guest, but that seems like a hell of a leap.

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Re: Today's Peace Rally

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, Ann!  No, never got caught up in any violence.  All the pictures are 
from the rally at Petrillo.  The wooded area turned into a staging area for 
marchers, readying themselves to head down to McCormick place, so it was very 
family orientated prior to the actual march.

I was going to march, but in the end decided against it.  Even if I had 
marched, I think I would have been just fine.  It was the Black Block 
protesters (which I labeled Ninja protesters in the gallery) that for the most 
part antagonized the police, but that was their intent, and if you view the 
Chicago Tribune gallery, they got what they intended.

Darrel went with me, and he would have marched if I wanted to, but in the end I 
decided to keep us both safe, so we took some pictures, had lunch and a coffee, 
then headed home on the EL.  Public transportation was a breeze.  I expected 
heavier crowds, but never saw them.

Rick Wormer's daughter is working as a street medic.  Maybe Rick will give a 
different account via his daughter.

To be sure, mine is a warm and fuzzy gallery of the event :-).  No 
photojournalistic heroics on my part for yesterday's event. I was merely 
tourist.

Cheers, Christine/Chicago






On May 21, 2012, at 9:44 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> Good STuff, Christine!
> 
> I'm glad you didn't get caught up in any of the violence that ensued (later? 
> or just elsewhere?)
> 
> It's deja vu all over again
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> On 5/21/2012 10:38, Christine Aguila wrote:
>> Thanks, Paul!  Cheers, Christine
>> 
>> 
>> On May 20, 2012, at 8:33 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> 
>>> Some excellent photos. Very colorful. I particularly like the girl with the 
>>> yellow "Another World is Possible" sign. Lots of other good ones.
>>> Paul
>>> On May 20, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Everyone:
 
 Darrel&  I headed down to the Petrillo Band Shell to listen to speakers, 
 and I have to say, that part was kind of lame.  The nurses' rally was so 
 much more interesting and fun.  But today the people watching was great, 
 and everyone was really, really nice.
 
 The gallery shows Jesse Jackson Sr. giving an interview, a few Canadian 
 protestors, and a lot of funny signage.
 
 Skirmishes with the police have been reported.  The Chicago Tribune has a 
 very compelling gallery of photos if you're interested.
 
 Darrel and I witnessed no violence, but the truth is we showed up for 
 family hour, as it were.
 
 Anyway, I'm glad we went to see this historic event.  To be sure, I mainly 
 went as spectator and photographer.
 
 http://www.caguila.com/natoshort
 
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Re: New Pentax DA 50mm f/1.8

[Miserere]

Matthew Hunt  wrote:

> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Miserere  wrote:
> 
> > Blurb says it's an APS-C lens. Actually, it says it's a dedicated
> lens for their K mount ILC cameras, so I wonder if this means it won't
> work on their DSLR's... H...
> 
> DSLRs are ILCs (interchangeable lens cameras). They're not MILCs
> (mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras).
> 



ILC stands for Interchangeable Lens Compact. Of course, it could be Pentax 
doesn't know this.


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Re: Today's Peace Rally

[Ann Sanfedele]

Good STuff, Christine!

I'm glad you didn't get caught up in any of the violence that ensued 
(later? or just elsewhere?)


It's deja vu all over again

ann


On 5/21/2012 10:38, Christine Aguila wrote:

Thanks, Paul!  Cheers, Christine


On May 20, 2012, at 8:33 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:


Some excellent photos. Very colorful. I particularly like the girl with the yellow 
"Another World is Possible" sign. Lots of other good ones.
Paul
On May 20, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:


Hi Everyone:

Darrel&  I headed down to the Petrillo Band Shell to listen to speakers, and I 
have to say, that part was kind of lame.  The nurses' rally was so much more 
interesting and fun.  But today the people watching was great, and everyone was 
really, really nice.

The gallery shows Jesse Jackson Sr. giving an interview, a few Canadian 
protestors, and a lot of funny signage.

Skirmishes with the police have been reported.  The Chicago Tribune has a very 
compelling gallery of photos if you're interested.

Darrel and I witnessed no violence, but the truth is we showed up for family 
hour, as it were.

Anyway, I'm glad we went to see this historic event.  To be sure, I mainly went 
as spectator and photographer.

http://www.caguila.com/natoshort

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Re: Today's Peace Rally

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, Frank!  Cheers, Christine


On May 20, 2012, at 10:12 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

> Too many good ones to pick favourites. Wonderful gallery. I really got a 
> flavour of the event while going through them.
> 
> Cheers,
> frank
> 
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
> Christopher Hitchens
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> 
> From: Christine Aguila 
> Sent: May 20, 2012 5/20/12
> To: PDML List 
> Subject: Today's Peace Rally
> 
> Hi Everyone:
> 
> Darrel & I headed down to the Petrillo Band Shell to listen to speakers, and 
> I have to say, that part was kind of lame.  The nurses' rally was so much 
> more interesting and fun.  But today the people watching was great, and 
> everyone was really, really nice.
> 
> The gallery shows Jesse Jackson Sr. giving an interview, a few Canadian 
> protestors, and a lot of funny signage.
> 
> Skirmishes with the police have been reported.  The Chicago Tribune has a 
> very compelling gallery of photos if you're interested.
> 
> Darrel and I witnessed no violence, but the truth is we showed up for family 
> hour, as it were.
> 
> Anyway, I'm glad we went to see this historic event.  To be sure, I mainly 
> went as spectator and photographer.
> 
> http://www.caguila.com/natoshort
> 
> Cheers, Christine/Chicago
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Re: Today's Peace Rally

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, Paul!  Cheers, Christine


On May 20, 2012, at 8:33 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> Some excellent photos. Very colorful. I particularly like the girl with the 
> yellow "Another World is Possible" sign. Lots of other good ones.
> Paul
> On May 20, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
> 
>> Hi Everyone:
>> 
>> Darrel & I headed down to the Petrillo Band Shell to listen to speakers, and 
>> I have to say, that part was kind of lame.  The nurses' rally was so much 
>> more interesting and fun.  But today the people watching was great, and 
>> everyone was really, really nice.
>> 
>> The gallery shows Jesse Jackson Sr. giving an interview, a few Canadian 
>> protestors, and a lot of funny signage.
>> 
>> Skirmishes with the police have been reported.  The Chicago Tribune has a 
>> very compelling gallery of photos if you're interested.
>> 
>> Darrel and I witnessed no violence, but the truth is we showed up for family 
>> hour, as it were.
>> 
>> Anyway, I'm glad we went to see this historic event.  To be sure, I mainly 
>> went as spectator and photographer.
>> 
>> http://www.caguila.com/natoshort
>> 
>> Cheers, Christine/Chicago
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Re: Rumor of a new intro Pentax Body

[Tom C]

>>> one of my brothers was rather scathing about my Leica because it
>>> doesn't have as many megapixels as his phone. A lot of people don't
>>> seem to realise that there are megapixels and there are mgeapixels.
>>> Mine are all first cold-pressed extra virgin long-staple Egyptian
>>> tree-ripened, shade-grown, free-range organic megapixels, whereas
>>> he got his from a bloke in Woolwich Market.
>>
>> With newer cameras having so many more megapixels, rendering the
>> older cameras obsolete, at what point do I have to start throwing
>> away the photos I took with a 6MP camera because they are no loner
>> any good?  What about 12 or 14MP?
>>
>
> You were supposed to start yesterday.
>

Wait! Stop! Don't throw those photos away. Just take a shot of them
with the new higher MP camera. Voila. Instant higher resolution.

Tom C.

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Re: Suggestions for online photo order-taking?

[Ann Sanfedele]

YOu beat me to it George!

It's about $150 a year for a full pro account, which, even though I am 
beyond broke I can manage - worth the investment - I dont sell a lot but 
I've certainly covered costs.


Havent kept up with the fees others are paying - bay photo prints are super.

they can order direct from your site and you can set the markups.
You get a preview of what they are getting if you want to and there
are endless sizes and several finishes to chose from.

etc...

and I didn't even know I'd get even brownie poitns for recommending. :-)

ann
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On 5/21/2012 08:35, George Sinos wrote:

Don't forget Smugmug.  About $20/month you're planning planning on
setting your own prices.

If all you want is a place for them to buy prints and you don't care
about purchase information it's only $5/month.

The annual rate is discounted but it doesn't sound like you are
interested in that.  If you do sign up for an annual plan you can use
my email address or the address of any of the other Smugmug
subscribers here and get a small discount.  They will also receive a
small referral fee.

gs

George Sinos

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www.georgesphotos.net
plus.georgesinos.com


On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 6:27 AM, Stan Halpin
  wrote:

Zenfolio, as Igor mentioned, prints via MPIX. And you can set the prices for 
profit or not. The galleries can be passworded or open.

stan

On May 21, 2012, at 12:09 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote:


If you have anything that will be on-going, you can subscribe to Shutterbug 
Storefront. The least expensive is about $64 a year.  You can go so far as 
designing your own gallery, set passwords and set prices for profit or not.  
They handle all the billing and product fulfillment.

http://www.shutterbugstorefront.com/scripts/website.pl?rm=home

OTOH, it it's just one-off and you don't want any profit, I've gotten decent 
prints from both Snapfish and Shutterfly.

http://www.snapfish.com/snapfish/welcome

http://www.shutterfly.com/

-p

On 5/20/2012 10:41 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:


Darren,

I'd say you have two type of options:
1. you can have your own gallery that accepts the orders, or
2. you can have things posted to one of the photo sites that accepts
orders for you.

If you are planning on making money on those orders,
the disadvantage of the latter one that in most cases such sites
take a big cut for themselves.
Zenfolio is partnered with Mpix.com that does prints.
(I used Mpix for prints directly, and like them.)

However, if all you want is to let people print their own photos
without you profiting from that, sites like fotki.com, I believe
allow that (or at least they used to.)

For the option 1, one of LR plugins from TTG:
http://shop.theturninggate.net/ might be a reasonable solution.

I bought one of the TTG plugins (without client response), and
I've been mostly happily using it for my galleries.

HTH,

Igor


Sun May 20 22:37:26 EDT 2012
Darren Addy  wrote:


However, in June I am going to do some family reunion photography for
a friend which will consist of lots of various family groupings, etc.
Since these people are getting together from all over the U.S. I'd
like suggestions for an online way for them to preview the images and
place orders.

I know that services like this exist for "real" professional
photographers, but this is not something that I want to pay for
monthly into the indefinite future. Just sort of a one-off
(hopefully). Does anyone know of something that might "fit the bill"?





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Re: GESO: South Downs Way

[Christine Aguila]

Fantastic look of England!  Love Ipg1000--beautiful, but the entire gallery is 
great!  Cheers, Christine




On May 21, 2012, at 1:09 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

> Hi all - I've been a bit quiet lately owing to being in the wilds of
> Hampshire and Sussex. Lots to catch up on by the looks of it.
> 
> Karin and I walked the South Downs Way, a 100 mile footpath from
> Winchester to Eastbourne on the South coast. We did it over 10 days
> with an extra day in Lewes, the county town of East Sussex. Here's a
> flavour with a picture from each day:
> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/SouthDownsWay1/PAD/
> 
> Cheers, Chris
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K20D vs K-5 vs D800: portrait image rez [was: Something to think about.]

[Bipin Gupta]

Hello Tim, can you please explain the HUGE, BIG Difference in Improved
Low Light Performance you got from your K-5 vs the K20D for the same
photo situation by showing us some examples in terms of  ISO, f-stop,
shutter speed etc or photos.
Regards. Bipin - from a far away enchanting land.

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Re: GESO: Boston Zombie March VIII

[Christine Aguila]

Lots of fun, David!  You do a great job at capturing the event.  Cheers, 
Christine


On May 19, 2012, at 10:25 PM, David Parsons wrote:

> Another fine day in Boston for a Zombie Walk.  Lots of good makeup
> this year, but it seems like attendance was down some from the last
> two years that I've attended.
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157629806670986/detail/
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Re: PESO -- Which lens. which lens?

[Ann Sanfedele]

thats very funny, P.J.

ann

On 5/20/2012 22:14, P. J. Alling wrote:

Life is short, if we can't make fun of Canon shooters, especially out of
context what can we do.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20whichlenswhichlens.html

Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax A*300mm f4.0

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Re: GESO - Autumn

[Christine Aguila]

My fans are the boy and mom and the skateboarders.  Excellent!  Cheers, 
Christine


On May 19, 2012, at 6:59 AM, Derby Chang wrote:

> 
> Twas a lovely autumn day today. Took my parents out for dinner, then off to 
> do some streeties.
> 
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_05/12_05_autumn/index.htm
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Re: PESO: God Rays

[Christine Aguila]

Wow!  That's lovely Darren, and Tim your gallery is very nice as well.  Very 
pretty--both!  Cheers, christine



On May 18, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Tim Bray wrote:

> Just like my Sunday School books!  I’ve got an album full:
> https://plus.google.com/photos/107606703558161507946/albums/5658982254228779185
> 
> But I think yours is better -T
> 
> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/7203690510/in/photostream/lightbox/
>> 
>> Hope you like it. It was a nice treat on the way home from work that day.
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Re: PESO -- Which lens. which lens?

[Christine Aguila]

Nice one, P.J.  I had a similar problem when shooting the construction story.  
I had to turn my hardhat backwards, as that hard bill kept hitting the camera.  
Cheers, Christine




On May 21, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Bob W  wrote:
>> Having his hat on backwards has obviously confused him about which way round
>> his head is.
> 
> Ordinarily, I would agree with Bob. However, have you ever tried to
> use a DSLR with the cap's bill facing in the proper direction? I
> usually point it to one side which makes me look like a real Goober.
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Re: PESO - Solidarity, Brother

[Christine Aguila]

Excellent!  Photo reveals great character in the men's faces, nice straight on 
looks from the two men on the left.  I could go either way on color or bw, but 
this bw rendering is very nice.  Nice one, Frank!  Cheers, Christine



On May 18, 2012, at 9:34 PM, Tim Bray wrote:

> Does that one maybe want to be in color? -T
> 
> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 8:54 AM, frank theriault
>  wrote:
>> The weekend before May Day unionized government workers from around
>> the province rallied here in Toronto at Queen's Park (the legislature
>> buildings) against proposed government cutbacks.  Got loads of photos,
>> but this was the best of them:
>> 
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/solidarity-brother.html
>> 
>> Wouldn't want to argue with these fellows about austerity measures...
>> 
>> ;-)
>> 
>> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>> 
>> cheers,
>> frank
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Re: PESO - Blue on Blue

[Christine Aguila]

Very pretty bird and color.  Cheers, Christine


On May 19, 2012, at 10:23 PM, frank theriault wrote:

> Last time I was down by the Lake it was barren and grey.
> 
> What a difference a month makes!  Today it was green, lush and filled
> with birds, including this little tree swallow:
> 
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/05/blue-on-blue.html
> 
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: PESO - Alternation

[Christine Aguila]

I often try for pictures like that and they come out crap, but your's is good.  
Cheers, Christine


On May 20, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

> Not "High Art"--for some reason this amused me:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15727132
> 
> (K7, FA 24-90)
> 
> Rick
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Re: Boris PESO #12 - Morning sparring

[Christine Aguila]

Very elegant, Boris!  cheers, Christine


On May 20, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:

> We're back from a weekend spent with my former classmate from Moscow at Ein 
> Gedi which is just by the Dead Sea.
> 
> Here is a PESO:
> 
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/05/peso-2012-19-morning-sparring.html
> 
> Be brutal and honest and usual.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Boris
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Re: New Pentax DA 50mm f/1.8

[Matthew Hunt]

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Miserere  wrote:

> Blurb says it's an APS-C lens. Actually, it says it's a dedicated lens for 
> their K mount ILC cameras, so I wonder if this means it won't work on their 
> DSLR's... H...

DSLRs are ILCs (interchangeable lens cameras). They're not MILCs
(mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras).

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New Pentax DA 50mm f/1.8

[Miserere]

Available soon in a store near you (figure of speach) for $250 (or some similar 
price in your local currency).

Blurb says it's an APS-C lens. Actually, it says it's a dedicated lens for 
their K mount ILC cameras, so I wonder if this means it won't work on their 
DSLR's... H...

Cheers, 

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Re: GESO: South Downs Way

[Bob Sullivan]

Chris,
Nice pictures, but starting with 3 days of rain is mighty tough!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Chris Mitchell
 wrote:
> Hi all - I've been a bit quiet lately owing to being in the wilds of
> Hampshire and Sussex. Lots to catch up on by the looks of it.
>
> Karin and I walked the South Downs Way, a 100 mile footpath from
> Winchester to Eastbourne on the South coast. We did it over 10 days
> with an extra day in Lewes, the county town of East Sussex. Here's a
> flavour with a picture from each day:
> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/SouthDownsWay1/PAD/
>
> Cheers, Chris
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Re: Rumor of a new intro Pentax Body

[Bob Sullivan]

Boris,
You better start thinking about markets for your product.
The best ideas for new products come from the customers.
Listen to how they use your products and design the next generation.
Don't leave all the fun to the Industrial Designers, blah!  :-b
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> On 5/18/2012 20:13, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>
>> I believe that the engineer with a new toy is always thinking 'How
>> could I sell a million of these?'
>
>
> I'm an engineer and I don't think like this, Bob. Instead I let to think so
> the marketing people in my company. Also the problem (in my eyes at least)
> here is that in terms of pixels there is only so much you can do with them.
> Few things come to mind - so if you have oh so many pixels you can:
>
> * crop them as you see fit and still get a decent picture
> * print really big enlargements
> * if you do virtual 3D, your worlds will be more zoomable in, in a manner of
> speaking
>
> That's about it. So the comparison with what Bill Gates said about PC RAM
> that someone here made looks invalid to me. PC RAM in particular and PC in
> general can do so much more so that adding RAM enables you to do great many
> various things. "Various" being the keyword here. As for pixels I am not so
> sure.
>
> Although I know that you're a car enthusiast, Bob, I still think that cars
> can be a valid analogy. If you live in NYC or Chicago or Tel Aviv for that
> matter, do you really absolutely certainly need the likes of modern sports
> cars? Is acceleration from 0 to 60 MPH in 5 sec going to be a decisive
> factor for you vs the car that does so in 10 sec. In theory it may serve you
> well if you need to accelerate to escape a predicament on the road (*). But
> in the big city such a situation is possibly improbable anyway. The smaller,
> more frugal or less polluting engine is an entirely different story, and
> even more so in the big cities...
>
> So MP count has to serve a purpose. And although in certain cases it does
> serve a purpose, it is unlikely to serve such a purpose for everyone
> uniformly. Hence I believe that there has to be "enough" pixels for 99% of
> the people out there, and 24 MP on APS-C sensor is just too many of them,
> little pesky pixels...
>
> Boris
>
> (*) It may be argued that if you get into such a situation or get close to
> it every now and then, you better not to drive at all or drive a slow car so
> as to force you to less aggressive driving.
>
>
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Re: PESO -- Which lens. which lens?

[Darren Addy]

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Bob W  wrote:
> Having his hat on backwards has obviously confused him about which way round
> his head is.

Ordinarily, I would agree with Bob. However, have you ever tried to
use a DSLR with the cap's bill facing in the proper direction? I
usually point it to one side which makes me look like a real Goober.

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Re: Suggestions for online photo order-taking?

[George Sinos]

Don't forget Smugmug.  About $20/month you're planning planning on
setting your own prices.

If all you want is a place for them to buy prints and you don't care
about purchase information it's only $5/month.

The annual rate is discounted but it doesn't sound like you are
interested in that.  If you do sign up for an annual plan you can use
my email address or the address of any of the other Smugmug
subscribers here and get a small discount.  They will also receive a
small referral fee.

gs

George Sinos

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On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 6:27 AM, Stan Halpin
 wrote:
> Zenfolio, as Igor mentioned, prints via MPIX. And you can set the prices for 
> profit or not. The galleries can be passworded or open.
>
> stan
>
> On May 21, 2012, at 12:09 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
>
>> If you have anything that will be on-going, you can subscribe to Shutterbug 
>> Storefront. The least expensive is about $64 a year.  You can go so far as 
>> designing your own gallery, set passwords and set prices for profit or not.  
>> They handle all the billing and product fulfillment.
>>
>> http://www.shutterbugstorefront.com/scripts/website.pl?rm=home
>>
>> OTOH, it it's just one-off and you don't want any profit, I've gotten decent 
>> prints from both Snapfish and Shutterfly.
>>
>> http://www.snapfish.com/snapfish/welcome
>>
>> http://www.shutterfly.com/
>>
>> -p
>>
>> On 5/20/2012 10:41 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
>>>
>>> Darren,
>>>
>>> I'd say you have two type of options:
>>> 1. you can have your own gallery that accepts the orders, or
>>> 2. you can have things posted to one of the photo sites that accepts
>>> orders for you.
>>>
>>> If you are planning on making money on those orders,
>>> the disadvantage of the latter one that in most cases such sites
>>> take a big cut for themselves.
>>> Zenfolio is partnered with Mpix.com that does prints.
>>> (I used Mpix for prints directly, and like them.)
>>>
>>> However, if all you want is to let people print their own photos
>>> without you profiting from that, sites like fotki.com, I believe
>>> allow that (or at least they used to.)
>>>
>>> For the option 1, one of LR plugins from TTG:
>>> http://shop.theturninggate.net/ might be a reasonable solution.
>>>
>>> I bought one of the TTG plugins (without client response), and
>>> I've been mostly happily using it for my galleries.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>>
>>> Igor
>>>
>>>
>>> Sun May 20 22:37:26 EDT 2012
>>> Darren Addy  wrote:
>>>
 However, in June I am going to do some family reunion photography for
 a friend which will consist of lots of various family groupings, etc.
 Since these people are getting together from all over the U.S. I'd
 like suggestions for an online way for them to preview the images and
 place orders.

 I know that services like this exist for "real" professional
 photographers, but this is not something that I want to pay for
 monthly into the indefinite future. Just sort of a one-off
 (hopefully). Does anyone know of something that might "fit the bill"?
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: PESO - The Good Neighbour

[David J Brooks]

I have a neighbour like that.:-)

Dave

On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 9:42 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/05/good-neighbour.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: A legal question re a stolen photo of mine

[Mark C]

On 5/20/2012 11:57 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:

On 5/20/2012 06:36, Mark C wrote:

That should be - "you don't know were the THEFT took place."


Well, I do know but it is something that won't hold water in any 
dispute. You see, I used to publish my pics on not-contaxg (or was it 
non-contaxg?!) web site that few years ago got overthrown by hackers 
and was taken down. I can say so due to the specifics of the 
processing that this very version of this image has - I have processed 
it in several ways over the years...


I still need to think how to move forward on this.

Boris

That is something about the website being taken over by hackers... But 
what I meant was - did did the hotel knowing use a stolen image, or did 
they get it from someone who either thought they had legit rights or was 
conning the hotel? Did the web design company steal it? Did a stock 
agency steal it? Did some individual take it? Somewhere along the line 
someone knows they stole it, but there could be a couple of good faith 
buyers between the end product and the thief. Which doesn't mean that 
they can keep on using the image - it just means they didn't actually 
steal it.


MCC

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Re: Suggestions for online photo order-taking?

[Stan Halpin]

Zenfolio, as Igor mentioned, prints via MPIX. And you can set the prices for 
profit or not. The galleries can be passworded or open.

stan

On May 21, 2012, at 12:09 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

> If you have anything that will be on-going, you can subscribe to Shutterbug 
> Storefront. The least expensive is about $64 a year.  You can go so far as 
> designing your own gallery, set passwords and set prices for profit or not.  
> They handle all the billing and product fulfillment.
> 
> http://www.shutterbugstorefront.com/scripts/website.pl?rm=home
> 
> OTOH, it it's just one-off and you don't want any profit, I've gotten decent 
> prints from both Snapfish and Shutterfly.
> 
> http://www.snapfish.com/snapfish/welcome
> 
> http://www.shutterfly.com/
> 
> -p
> 
> On 5/20/2012 10:41 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
>> 
>> Darren,
>> 
>> I'd say you have two type of options:
>> 1. you can have your own gallery that accepts the orders, or
>> 2. you can have things posted to one of the photo sites that accepts
>> orders for you.
>> 
>> If you are planning on making money on those orders,
>> the disadvantage of the latter one that in most cases such sites
>> take a big cut for themselves.
>> Zenfolio is partnered with Mpix.com that does prints.
>> (I used Mpix for prints directly, and like them.)
>> 
>> However, if all you want is to let people print their own photos
>> without you profiting from that, sites like fotki.com, I believe
>> allow that (or at least they used to.)
>> 
>> For the option 1, one of LR plugins from TTG:
>> http://shop.theturninggate.net/ might be a reasonable solution.
>> 
>> I bought one of the TTG plugins (without client response), and
>> I've been mostly happily using it for my galleries.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> Igor
>> 
>> 
>> Sun May 20 22:37:26 EDT 2012
>> Darren Addy  wrote:
>> 
>>> However, in June I am going to do some family reunion photography for
>>> a friend which will consist of lots of various family groupings, etc.
>>> Since these people are getting together from all over the U.S. I'd
>>> like suggestions for an online way for them to preview the images and
>>> place orders.
>>> 
>>> I know that services like this exist for "real" professional
>>> photographers, but this is not something that I want to pay for
>>> monthly into the indefinite future. Just sort of a one-off
>>> (hopefully). Does anyone know of something that might "fit the bill"?
>> 
>> 
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Re: Earthquake

[Dario Bonazza]

Hi John, boys & all are OK.
Here are the cracks:
www.dariobonazza.com/public/Cracks.jpg
Those on the wall (right) were already there (one of them is now longer 
though), while their counterparts on the white ceiling (left) are brand new.

Cheers,
Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
From: John Coyle

Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 9:24 AM
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Subject: RE: Earthquake

Very glad to hear you are unhurt, Dario - is the damage to your house very 
severe?

Were the boys Ok too?

Regards

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia


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Dario Bonazza

Sent: Monday, 21 May 2012 4:49 PM
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Subject: Earthquake

This past weekend, while putting together and running our Pentax Day in 
Anzola Emilia, a
Richter 6 earthquake took place in that area (not far from where I live). 
There are dead
and injured persons and quite heavy damage to old & new buildings. My house 
shows some

cracks too.
News:
http://earthquake-report.com/en/2012/05/20/very-strong-shallow-earthquake-kills-at-least-3
-people-in-the-mantua-ferrara-and-modena-area-italy/

Pics: http://tinyurl.com/7rg6d7a

Dario


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