Re: Web site feedback - OT

[Stan Halpin]

A few minor issues I see...

- Your cover photo is of a happy sailor, but the only gallery you show is 
Katrina. Is this the "cover photo" for the Katrina gallery? In general, I think 
you need to be careful about the associations implied by the physical 
relationship between elements on your page. 
- I do not like the site name. Unless all of the included photos now and 
forever more will be TX400, and/or your intended audience is a bunch of old 
guys with nostalgic memories of the days when men were men, boys were boys, and 
real photographers shot low light B&W, I think the name is somewhere between a 
misrepresentation and a bunch of random characters with no meaning to the 
majority of the audience.
- Others have already pointed out the need for a gallery index. I click on the 
Katrina link, I see an image, and then I close the page and the site. If you do 
not add an index, make sure your best image is the first one because that is 
likely t be the only one anyone looks at.

stan

On May 24, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:

> After a hiatus of about 6 years, I'm rebuilding a minimalist website from the 
> ground up. I decided to make it easy to view...on an iPad. 
> 
> Can some of you take a look and let me know what you think of the format? I'm 
> not a pro, so there is nothing promotional on it. And the only gallery I have 
> up so far is about 80 photos from the Lower 9th Ward taken after Katrina. All 
> taken with Tri-X film with a rangefinder, so it is totally OT.
> 
> The site is www.400tx.com. 
> 
> Thanks much, in advance.
> 
> Jeffery
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> Jeffery L. Smith
> New Orleans, Louisiana
> USA
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Re: My light meter working OK?

[Paul Stenquist]

On May 25, 2012, at 10:53 PM, Mark C wrote:

> If I were testing the meters, I'd do the following:
> 
> 1. Be sure to compare both meters in spot metering mode. You probably did 
> this but just in case...
> 2. Verify what the 'spot' in the spot metering is. Put a small saucer sized 
> white paper plate on a piece of black foam core. With the K5 - fill the frame 
> with the plate and then slowly walk away from it, letting the black foam core 
> start to fill the frame. Keep the paper plate centered in the finder - you 
> will see the meter reading stay steady and then rapidly change as the plate 
> gets smaller than the area being metered. You can verify that the "spot" 
> being measured correlates the to the circle in the center of the frame. You 
> could do that with the Sekonic as well.
> 3. Test both the K5 and Sekonic on a gray card, using your knowledge of the 
> size of the spots to be sure that you are only metering off the grey card.
> 4. If there is a material difference in the readings off the gray card, then 
> test the meters off a gray card in direct noon sunlight and compare to the 
> sunny 16 rule. Hopefully one of the meters will comply with that.
> 5. Use the meter that complies with sunny 16 to work up an adjustment factor 
> for the other.
Well though out, but I don't think that's precise enough to get an accurate 
calibration. Sunlight intensity varies by the season and by atmospheric 
conditions.  The only way to be sure a meter is accurate is to have it checked 
by a professional calibration service. Quality Light Metric in L.A. 
323-467-2265 is among the very best. They calibrate meters for many of the DPs 
who work in the film industry. 

Paul


> 6. Spot meter off various colored items and see if the meters perform 
> consistently. If they vary, they may be more or less sensitive to different 
> colors. This can be a bugger because you have no control point. One meter may 
> be more sensitive to green, another to red, you can't use one to calibrate 
> the other. You can try the sunny 16 rule with different colors, of course..
> 
> Are you shooting slide film, color neg, or silver B&W?
> 
> If B&W, I'd just go out and shoot, take notes (mental or otherwise) and 
> compensate the workflow. That means tweaking your metering / film ISO setting 
> (same thing), your development times and agitation regimen. Use the data 
> printed along the edge of the film as a control point for developing. If you 
> are shooting slide film you have to be more careful with metering.
> 
> Here's a story about metering and slide film:
> 
> I visited the beach with a friend of mine one day, and we both shot this 
> lighthouse:
> 
> http://www.markcassino.com/newsite/portfolios/lighthouses/pages/0204l07.htm
> 
> He had a Nikon F5 with a super sophisticated evaluative / color corrected 
> metering system that he relied on. I had a Pz-1p. I spot metered off the 
> black metal frame, did some quick zone calcs in my head, and set the exposure 
> manually. We both shot ISO 100 slide film (him Provia, me E100S.) My shots 
> came out very well - maybe 1/4 to 1/2 stop over exposed, but very usable. His 
> were a mess. SO taking control of metering with film is important.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> MCC
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/21/2012 8:27 PM, Kenton Brede wrote:
>> I'm making a foray into film and decided I should get a light meter.
>> I bought a used Sekonic L-508 which has both incident and spot
>> metering.  Messing around with the K-5 and Sekonic, I found the
>> readings didn't really match up.  So I took a picture of the blue sky,
>> the histogram was spiked in the center.  I then spot metered the sky.
>> I used the compensation function to dial in 3AV to bring the meter in
>> line with the K-5's shutter, ISO and aperture.  I used a gray card in
>> the shade to meter off of with the K-5, and then matched those
>> settings on the Sekonic by dialing in a -1AV for the incident reading.
>> 
>> Does this sound like a decent calibration method?
>> 
>> I went around metering things and taking shots with the K-5.  I found
>> that if I spot metered off a shaded green bush, I needed to speed up
>> the shutter 2 stops to bring the histogram near center.  When metering
>> off a gray cloud, with silver lining, I sped up the shutter a couple
>> stops to bring the histogram to center.  The incident meter seemed to
>> get the K-5 in the ballpark when metering in front of a tan shed,
>> while the meter was facing the direction the sun.  In shade, facing
>> away from the sun, I generally had to slow the shutter down a couple
>> stops.
>> 
>> Does this sound like the way an accurate light meter works?  I've
>> never used one.
>> 
>> Any thoughts appreciated.  I realize all this hinges on the K-5 being
>> accurate, and assuming the film cameras will work with the same meter
>> readout as the K-5.  I probably should have just purchased a new
>> model, but good ones are expensive!
>> Thanks,
>> 
> 
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Re: My light meter working OK?

[Mark C]

If I were testing the meters, I'd do the following:

1. Be sure to compare both meters in spot metering mode. You probably 
did this but just in case...
2. Verify what the 'spot' in the spot metering is. Put a small saucer 
sized white paper plate on a piece of black foam core. With the K5 - 
fill the frame with the plate and then slowly walk away from it, letting 
the black foam core start to fill the frame. Keep the paper plate 
centered in the finder - you will see the meter reading stay steady and 
then rapidly change as the plate gets smaller than the area being 
metered. You can verify that the "spot" being measured correlates the to 
the circle in the center of the frame. You could do that with the 
Sekonic as well.
3. Test both the K5 and Sekonic on a gray card, using your knowledge of 
the size of the spots to be sure that you are only metering off the grey 
card.
4. If there is a material difference in the readings off the gray card, 
then test the meters off a gray card in direct noon sunlight and compare 
to the sunny 16 rule. Hopefully one of the meters will comply with that.
5. Use the meter that complies with sunny 16 to work up an adjustment 
factor for the other.
6. Spot meter off various colored items and see if the meters perform 
consistently. If they vary, they may be more or less sensitive to 
different colors. This can be a bugger because you have no control 
point. One meter may be more sensitive to green, another to red, you 
can't use one to calibrate the other. You can try the sunny 16 rule with 
different colors, of course..


Are you shooting slide film, color neg, or silver B&W?

If B&W, I'd just go out and shoot, take notes (mental or otherwise) and 
compensate the workflow. That means tweaking your metering / film ISO 
setting (same thing), your development times and agitation regimen. Use 
the data printed along the edge of the film as a control point for 
developing. If you are shooting slide film you have to be more careful 
with metering.


Here's a story about metering and slide film:

I visited the beach with a friend of mine one day, and we both shot this 
lighthouse:


http://www.markcassino.com/newsite/portfolios/lighthouses/pages/0204l07.htm

He had a Nikon F5 with a super sophisticated evaluative / color 
corrected metering system that he relied on. I had a Pz-1p. I spot 
metered off the black metal frame, did some quick zone calcs in my head, 
and set the exposure manually. We both shot ISO 100 slide film (him 
Provia, me E100S.) My shots came out very well - maybe 1/4 to 1/2 stop 
over exposed, but very usable. His were a mess. SO taking control of 
metering with film is important.


Good luck!

MCC




On 5/21/2012 8:27 PM, Kenton Brede wrote:

I'm making a foray into film and decided I should get a light meter.
I bought a used Sekonic L-508 which has both incident and spot
metering.  Messing around with the K-5 and Sekonic, I found the
readings didn't really match up.  So I took a picture of the blue sky,
the histogram was spiked in the center.  I then spot metered the sky.
I used the compensation function to dial in 3AV to bring the meter in
line with the K-5's shutter, ISO and aperture.  I used a gray card in
the shade to meter off of with the K-5, and then matched those
settings on the Sekonic by dialing in a -1AV for the incident reading.

Does this sound like a decent calibration method?

I went around metering things and taking shots with the K-5.  I found
that if I spot metered off a shaded green bush, I needed to speed up
the shutter 2 stops to bring the histogram near center.  When metering
off a gray cloud, with silver lining, I sped up the shutter a couple
stops to bring the histogram to center.  The incident meter seemed to
get the K-5 in the ballpark when metering in front of a tan shed,
while the meter was facing the direction the sun.  In shade, facing
away from the sun, I generally had to slow the shutter down a couple
stops.

Does this sound like the way an accurate light meter works?  I've
never used one.

Any thoughts appreciated.  I realize all this hinges on the K-5 being
accurate, and assuming the film cameras will work with the same meter
readout as the K-5.  I probably should have just purchased a new
model, but good ones are expensive!
Thanks,




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Re: My light meter working OK?

[Mark C]

If I were testing the meters, I'd do the following:

1. Be sure to compare both meters in spot metering mode. You probably 
did this but just in case...
2. Verify what the 'spot' in the spot metering is. Put a small saucer 
sized white paper plate on a piece of black foam core. With the K5 - 
fill the frame with the plate and then slowly walk away from it, letting 
the black foam core start to fill the frame. Keep the paper plate 
centered in the finder - you will see the meter reading stay steady and 
then rapidly change as the plate gets smaller than the area being 
metered. You can verify that the "spot" being measured correlates the to 
the circle in the center of the frame. You could do that with the 
Sekonic as well.
3. Test both the K5 and Sekonic on a gray card, using your knowledge of 
the size of the spots to be sure that you are only metering off the grey 
card.
4. If there is a material difference in the readings off the gray card, 
then test the meters off a gray card in direct noon sunlight and compare 
to the sunny 16 rule. Hopefully one of the meters will comply with that.
5. Use the meter that complies with sunny 16 to work up an adjustment 
factor for the other.
6. Spot meter off various colored items and see if the meters perform 
consistently. If they vary, they may be more or less sensitive to 
different colors. This can be a bugger because you have no control 
point. One meter may be more sensitive to green, another to red, you 
can't use one to calibrate the other. You can try the sunny 16 rule with 
different colors, of course..


Are you shooting slide film, color neg, or silver B&W?

If B&W, I'd just go out and shoot, take notes (mental or otherwise) and 
compensate the workflow. That means tweaking your metering / film ISO 
setting (same thing), your development times and agitation regimen. Use 
the data printed along the edge of the film as a control point for 
developing. If you are shooting slide film you have to be more careful 
with metering.


Here's a story about metering and slide film:

I visited the beach with a friend of mine one day, and we both shot this 
lighthouse:


http://www.markcassino.com/newsite/portfolios/lighthouses/pages/0204l07.htm

He had a Nikon F5 with a super sophisticated evaluative / color 
corrected metering system that he relied on. I had a Pz-1p. I spot 
metered off the black metal frame, did some quick zone calcs in my head, 
and set the exposure manually. We both shot ISO 100 slide film (him 
Provia, me E100S.) My shots came out very well - maybe 1/4 to 1/2 stop 
over exposed, but very usable. His were a mess. SO taking control of 
metering with film is important.


Good luck!

MCC




On 5/21/2012 8:27 PM, Kenton Brede wrote:

I'm making a foray into film and decided I should get a light meter.
I bought a used Sekonic L-508 which has both incident and spot
metering.  Messing around with the K-5 and Sekonic, I found the
readings didn't really match up.  So I took a picture of the blue sky,
the histogram was spiked in the center.  I then spot metered the sky.
I used the compensation function to dial in 3AV to bring the meter in
line with the K-5's shutter, ISO and aperture.  I used a gray card in
the shade to meter off of with the K-5, and then matched those
settings on the Sekonic by dialing in a -1AV for the incident reading.

Does this sound like a decent calibration method?

I went around metering things and taking shots with the K-5.  I found
that if I spot metered off a shaded green bush, I needed to speed up
the shutter 2 stops to bring the histogram near center.  When metering
off a gray cloud, with silver lining, I sped up the shutter a couple
stops to bring the histogram to center.  The incident meter seemed to
get the K-5 in the ballpark when metering in front of a tan shed,
while the meter was facing the direction the sun.  In shade, facing
away from the sun, I generally had to slow the shutter down a couple
stops.

Does this sound like the way an accurate light meter works?  I've
never used one.

Any thoughts appreciated.  I realize all this hinges on the K-5 being
accurate, and assuming the film cameras will work with the same meter
readout as the K-5.  I probably should have just purchased a new
model, but good ones are expensive!
Thanks,




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Re: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

[Subash]

On Fri, 25 May 2012 17:55:02 -0400
Eric Weir  wrote:

> I'm guessing that since you had the services of pack mules you didn't
> have to be as careful as you might have otherwise what equipment you
> had with you, but I would be interested to know what you used to
> create these images.

that's what i'd thought too. i had taken a mz-5n, k200d and as for
lenses, the tamron 17-50/2.8, tamron 24-135 and the fa50/1.4. i ended
mostly using the k200d with the tamron 24-135 (most of the shots here
are from that combo). next time i go on a trek like this, i am just
planning to take a good point and shoot. eventually the weight does get
to you... :)

thanks for looking...

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Re: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

[Subash]

thanks Ann, it was an amazing trek :). you are right, the photo is of
the glacier's 'snout' but i wasn't making the point you thought i was.
all that *is* solid ice, covered with a thin layer of soil so it all
looks brown.

about the snake fossil, i've just added the only other photo i took.
hope that gives it some kind of scale:
https://picasaweb.google.com/117979942681874882460/Nandadevi#5746649077613675042

thanks for looking. appreciate your comments...


On Fri, 25 May 2012 19:12:12 -0400
Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> Loved the tour --
> I was glad to see the shots that were a bit more in the distance of
> the mountain - that worked better for me for scale.
> The portraits all very strong, but I particularly liked the one of
> the tiny figure at the base of the Glacier's terminal moraine. at
> least, I think that is what I'm looking at.. don't see any glacial
> ice - but I guess that was your point, no?
> 
> The "snake" cries out for scale for me... looks like a metamorphic
> product - I'm bothered I can just blurt out exactly what is happening 
> there - :-)
> 
> what an wonderful trip that msut ahve been!
> 
> ann
> 
> On 5/24/2012 22:09, Subash wrote:
> > On Wed, 23 May 2012 21:06:50 -0400
> > Stan Halpin  wrote:
> >
> >> A very nice photo essay!
> >
> > thanks Stan. and everyone else who had a look. appreciate it :)
> >
> 



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Re: Micro 4/3s the Dark-side

[Steven Desjardins]

I just did some looking, and Amazon has some used Lumix 14 2.8 lenses
for $185.

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> The E-Pl1 is a good body, and a great value for $169.  If you can grab
> the Oly 17 or the Lumix 14 or 20 it becomes a great little
> street/close quarters/ camera.
>
> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Jeffery Smith  wrote:
>> I got an adapter to use some LTM lenses with a m4/3 Panasonic. What 
>> interests me the most is the Sony NEX and all of the adapters it has. I 
>> think Sigma's biggest mistake has been producing a dSLR that uses only Sigma 
>> lenses. If they had a dSLR that would (via adapter) use everyone else's 
>> lenses, that would be a keeper.
>>
>> Jeffery
>>
>>
>> On May 25, 2012, at 5:09 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
>>
>>> thats the problem with m43, to get wide angle you need to buy a 14mm lens.
>>>
>>> -
>>> J.C.O'Connell
>>> hifis...@gate.net
>>> -
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P.
>>> J. Alling
>>> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 5:13 PM
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject: Re: Micro 4/3s the Dark-side
>>>
>>> You haven't really crossed to the darkside, at least you're using good
>>> glass... ;-)   However with that 2x crop you really don't have anything
>>> that qualifies as wide angle,
>>>
>>> On 5/25/2012 3:50 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:
 I have  crossed the line & purchased a 4/3s camera. My setup of camera
 & 4 lenses cost less than $200!
 Olympus Pen E PL1 body only  from Amazon $169.00, Pentax to Micro 4/3s
 adapter off-brand $20.00 and
 4 manual Pentax lens 28mm 50mm 135mm and 35-80 zoom.

 Here are a few photos taken after I opened the box popped in the
 battery and set the camera to Aperture priority.
 Some from inside fast-food place and others of flowers outside my house.


>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7268313246/in/set-72157629892440362/ligh
>>> tbox/


 I have a second batch to look at today. Looks like a usable waking
 camera & 2nd camera for planned outings.
 Next week there is a local festival here where I will try the movie mode.

 It is great to get some use out of these lenses. They are  doubled
 effective focal length which leaves me wanting something on the WA side.
 But the 135mm does make for a small light 270mm.

>>>
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Re: Micro 4/3s the Dark-side

[Steven Desjardins]

The E-Pl1 is a good body, and a great value for $169.  If you can grab
the Oly 17 or the Lumix 14 or 20 it becomes a great little
street/close quarters/ camera.

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Jeffery Smith  wrote:
> I got an adapter to use some LTM lenses with a m4/3 Panasonic. What interests 
> me the most is the Sony NEX and all of the adapters it has. I think Sigma's 
> biggest mistake has been producing a dSLR that uses only Sigma lenses. If 
> they had a dSLR that would (via adapter) use everyone else's lenses, that 
> would be a keeper.
>
> Jeffery
>
>
> On May 25, 2012, at 5:09 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
>
>> thats the problem with m43, to get wide angle you need to buy a 14mm lens.
>>
>> -
>> J.C.O'Connell
>> hifis...@gate.net
>> -
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P.
>> J. Alling
>> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 5:13 PM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: Micro 4/3s the Dark-side
>>
>> You haven't really crossed to the darkside, at least you're using good
>> glass... ;-)   However with that 2x crop you really don't have anything
>> that qualifies as wide angle,
>>
>> On 5/25/2012 3:50 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:
>>> I have  crossed the line & purchased a 4/3s camera. My setup of camera
>>> & 4 lenses cost less than $200!
>>> Olympus Pen E PL1 body only  from Amazon $169.00, Pentax to Micro 4/3s
>>> adapter off-brand $20.00 and
>>> 4 manual Pentax lens 28mm 50mm 135mm and 35-80 zoom.
>>>
>>> Here are a few photos taken after I opened the box popped in the
>>> battery and set the camera to Aperture priority.
>>> Some from inside fast-food place and others of flowers outside my house.
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7268313246/in/set-72157629892440362/ligh
>> tbox/
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a second batch to look at today. Looks like a usable waking
>>> camera & 2nd camera for planned outings.
>>> Next week there is a local festival here where I will try the movie mode.
>>>
>>> It is great to get some use out of these lenses. They are  doubled
>>> effective focal length which leaves me wanting something on the WA side.
>>> But the 135mm does make for a small light 270mm.
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: Subject: PESO - Evening Columbine

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, Don!  I know what you mean.  I tell myself "Rick, the world has 
=enough= flower pictures already!"  And then I take some more.

Rick

 
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


- Original Message -
From: Don Guthrie 
To: pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 3:00 PM
Subject: RE: Subject: PESO - Evening Columbine

Rick quite lovely and well taken. I can't seem to get enuf flower pics 
this Spring. I have my own Columbine photo I will post soon.




> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 17:38:38 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Rick Womer 
> To: Pentax List 
> Subject: PESO - Evening Columbine
> Message-ID:
>     <1337906318.14401.yahoomail...@web162103.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On my way home from work, rather than to work:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15777433
>
> or
>
> http://phillyrick.smugmug.com/Other/Photo-Every-So-Often/22104662_KBBF9K#!i=1864759682&k=Rq5tTR8&lb=1&s=A
>
>
> Comments appreciated!
>
>
> Rick
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Re: Micro 4/3s the Dark-side

[Jeffery Smith]

I got an adapter to use some LTM lenses with a m4/3 Panasonic. What interests 
me the most is the Sony NEX and all of the adapters it has. I think Sigma's 
biggest mistake has been producing a dSLR that uses only Sigma lenses. If they 
had a dSLR that would (via adapter) use everyone else's lenses, that would be a 
keeper.

Jeffery


On May 25, 2012, at 5:09 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

> thats the problem with m43, to get wide angle you need to buy a 14mm lens.
> 
> -
> J.C.O'Connell
> hifis...@gate.net
> -
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P.
> J. Alling
> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 5:13 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Micro 4/3s the Dark-side
> 
> You haven't really crossed to the darkside, at least you're using good 
> glass... ;-)   However with that 2x crop you really don't have anything 
> that qualifies as wide angle,
> 
> On 5/25/2012 3:50 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:
>> I have  crossed the line & purchased a 4/3s camera. My setup of camera 
>> & 4 lenses cost less than $200!
>> Olympus Pen E PL1 body only  from Amazon $169.00, Pentax to Micro 4/3s 
>> adapter off-brand $20.00 and
>> 4 manual Pentax lens 28mm 50mm 135mm and 35-80 zoom.
>> 
>> Here are a few photos taken after I opened the box popped in the 
>> battery and set the camera to Aperture priority.
>> Some from inside fast-food place and others of flowers outside my house.
>> 
>> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7268313246/in/set-72157629892440362/ligh
> tbox/ 
>> 
>> 
>> I have a second batch to look at today. Looks like a usable waking 
>> camera & 2nd camera for planned outings.
>> Next week there is a local festival here where I will try the movie mode.
>> 
>> It is great to get some use out of these lenses. They are  doubled 
>> effective focal length which leaves me wanting something on the WA side.
>> But the 135mm does make for a small light 270mm.
>> 
> 
> 
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Re: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

[Ann Sanfedele]

Loved the tour --
I was glad to see the shots that were a bit more in the distance of the 
mountain - that worked better for me for scale.
The portraits all very strong, but I particularly liked the one of the 
tiny figure at the base of the Glacier's terminal moraine. at least, I
think that is what I'm looking at.. don't see any glacial ice - but I 
guess that was your point, no?


The "snake" cries out for scale for me... looks like a metamorphic
product - I'm bothered I can just blurt out exactly what is happening 
there - :-)


what an wonderful trip that msut ahve been!

ann

On 5/24/2012 22:09, Subash wrote:

On Wed, 23 May 2012 21:06:50 -0400
Stan Halpin  wrote:


A very nice photo essay!


thanks Stan. and everyone else who had a look. appreciate it :)



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RE: Micro 4/3s the Dark-side

[J.C. O'Connell]

thats the problem with m43, to get wide angle you need to buy a 14mm lens.

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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P.
J. Alling
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 5:13 PM
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Subject: Re: Micro 4/3s the Dark-side

You haven't really crossed to the darkside, at least you're using good 
glass... ;-)   However with that 2x crop you really don't have anything 
that qualifies as wide angle,

On 5/25/2012 3:50 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:
> I have  crossed the line & purchased a 4/3s camera. My setup of camera 
> & 4 lenses cost less than $200!
> Olympus Pen E PL1 body only  from Amazon $169.00, Pentax to Micro 4/3s 
> adapter off-brand $20.00 and
> 4 manual Pentax lens 28mm 50mm 135mm and 35-80 zoom.
>
> Here are a few photos taken after I opened the box popped in the 
> battery and set the camera to Aperture priority.
> Some from inside fast-food place and others of flowers outside my house.
>
>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7268313246/in/set-72157629892440362/ligh
tbox/ 
>
>
> I have a second batch to look at today. Looks like a usable waking 
> camera & 2nd camera for planned outings.
> Next week there is a local festival here where I will try the movie mode.
>
> It is great to get some use out of these lenses. They are  doubled 
> effective focal length which leaves me wanting something on the WA side.
> But the 135mm does make for a small light 270mm.
>


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Re: Today's Peace Rally

[Eric Weir]

On May 21, 2012, at 12:02 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> As to the protesters, I only regret I don't have my old F-4B available
> to pay them a visit.

Very cool. 

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Re: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos

[Eric Weir]

On May 22, 2012, at 9:33 PM, Subash wrote:

> a large gallery, but hopefully the thumbnail view would let you see
> what you want to see:
> 
> https://picasaweb.google.com/117979942681874882460/Nandadevi
> 
> do let me know what you like and what you don't

I share others' appreciation of the entire gallery, Subash. The landscapes, the 
portraits. Hard to pick a favorite, but I thought "geetha inside the 
restaurant" was stunning. But so were many others.

I'm guessing that since you had the services of pack mules you didn't have to 
be as careful as you might have otherwise what equipment you had with you, but 
I would be interested to know what you used to create these images.

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Re: Micro 4/3s the Dark-side

[P. J. Alling]

You haven't really crossed to the darkside, at least you're using good 
glass... ;-)   However with that 2x crop you really don't have anything 
that qualifies as wide angle,


On 5/25/2012 3:50 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:
I have  crossed the line & purchased a 4/3s camera. My setup of camera 
& 4 lenses cost less than $200!
Olympus Pen E PL1 body only  from Amazon $169.00, Pentax to Micro 4/3s 
adapter off-brand $20.00 and

4 manual Pentax lens 28mm 50mm 135mm and 35-80 zoom.

Here are a few photos taken after I opened the box popped in the 
battery and set the camera to Aperture priority.

Some from inside fast-food place and others of flowers outside my house.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7268313246/in/set-72157629892440362/lightbox/ 



I have a second batch to look at today. Looks like a usable waking 
camera & 2nd camera for planned outings.

Next week there is a local festival here where I will try the movie mode.

It is great to get some use out of these lenses. They are  doubled 
effective focal length which leaves me wanting something on the WA side.

But the 135mm does make for a small light 270mm.




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Re: Tokina AT-X 828 AF PRO 80-200mm f/2.8 question

[P. J. Alling]

The camera uses the code recorded in the data chip in the lens.  Having 
partially disassembled an FA and an F lens I can say with relative 
assurance that that focal length is reported by several conductive 
strips that are sampled differently as the zoom ring is turned.  I 
expect that the reported focal length is most likely correct.   The 
Acontacts tell the camera the absolute maximum and minimum apertures the 
lens is capable of, (as per Boz K mount description page).  Now I don't 
know how the following is done, but based on behavior I'd say the lens' 
on board chip sends a modification signal to the camera body based on 
the focal length selected so the camera will display and record the 
correct f stop.  This doesn't happen with A zoom lenses since they have 
no chip.


On 5/25/2012 2:30 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Darren Addy


I'm curious... if it shows up in Photoshop as a Pentax-F 35-105mm,
does that mean that it is also misreading the focal length that this
lens is set at (when doing image stabilization)?
If it is doing image stabilization for a 105mm focal length when the
lens is set to 200mm, that could definitely lead to some lack of
sharpness. I think I will see if I get better results with Image
Stabilization off and tripod mount it (which I guess I should be doing
to test for sharpness anyway!).


I don't know.

I think the camera just has to have some kind of a code to bury in the 
EXIF to identify the lens & it uses the code that PhotoShop thinks is 
the Pentax-F 35-105.


I don't know why it wouldn't use the code for the FA* 80-200/2.8 ED 
[IF]? But it apparently doesn't


I just did a quick test on mine with the K20D & when you press the 
INFO button, it shows the correct focal length - 80 = 80, 200 = 200 
and in between shows proportional focal lengths in between.







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RE: PESO - Evening Columbine

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Beautiful light! Very well composed. Wonderful photo.

Cheers,
frank

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Rick Womer 
Sent: May 24, 2012 5/24/12
To: Pentax List 
Subject: PESO - Evening Columbine

On my way home from work, rather than to work:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15777433

or

http://phillyrick.smugmug.com/Other/Photo-Every-So-Often/22104662_KBBF9K#!i=1864759682&k=Rq5tTR8&lb=1&s=A


Comments appreciated!


Rick

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RE: GESO - farewell show

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Wonderful set! You used the light to great effect.

Very emotional.

Cheers,
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--- Original Message ---

From: Derby Chang 
Sent: May 24, 2012 5/24/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: GESO - farewell show


My friend Loene is moving to Georgia (USA) for a few months. Anyone know 
Griffin?

She had one last show before she leaves.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_05/12_05_loene/index.htm

TIL; shooting at 6400 is a bucket of fun

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Re: PESO - PAD - St. Bridget's Church

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Even a crusty old atheist like me can appreciate the beauty in a sacred 
building.

Beautiful church, lovely photo, expertly rendered.

Reminds me of my mis-spent Catholic youth.

;-)

cheers,
frank



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--- Original Message ---

From: Toine 
Sent: May 24, 2012 5/24/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: PESO - PAD - St. Bridget's Church

beautiful church and image. print it big!

Toine

On 24 May 2012 18:32, George Sinos  wrote:
> A few days ago, Mike Johnston of The Online Photographer suggested
> that you may improve your printing skills by printing a different
> photo every day, for 30days.
>
> Today is my seventh day into the project and I must admit that I'm
> getting more comfortable with printing. My skills may or may not be
> improving but I've learned a lot about printing through Lightroom 4.
> Previously I did the majority of printing through Photoshop.
>
> Now that I have a 7 day cushion I decided to post screen versions of
> the photos I've selected for prints.
>
> St. Bridget's is the beautiful old church I attended during my grade
> school and high school years. I'll be returning over the next few
> weeks to get additional photos. This is one of the initial test shots.
>
> 
>
> There are a number of churches in the area that are expected to be
> closed over the next year.  Population shift and finances are the
> primary reasons.  Luckily, this beautiful old church isn't one of
> them.  My intention is to get all of them photographed before it's too
> late.
>
> gs
>
> George Sinos
> 
> gsi...@gmail.com
> www.georgesphotos.net
> plus.georgesinos.com
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Re: Micro 4/3s the Dark-side

[Bulent Celasun]

They look gorgeous (resolution- and color-wise) on screen.

Is it a "responsive" camera? (Important especially in situations like
that in your first image).

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2012/5/25 Don Guthrie :
> I have  crossed the line & purchased a 4/3s camera. My setup of camera & 4
> lenses cost less than $200!
> Olympus Pen E PL1 body only  from Amazon $169.00, Pentax to Micro 4/3s
> adapter off-brand $20.00 and
> 4 manual Pentax lens 28mm 50mm 135mm and 35-80 zoom.
>
> Here are a few photos taken after I opened the box popped in the battery and
> set the camera to Aperture priority.
> Some from inside fast-food place and others of flowers outside my house.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7268313246/in/set-72157629892440362/lightbox/
>
> I have a second batch to look at today. Looks like a usable waking camera &
> 2nd camera for planned outings.
> Next week there is a local festival here where I will try the movie mode.
>
> It is great to get some use out of these lenses. They are  doubled effective
> focal length which leaves me wanting something on the WA side.
> But the 135mm does make for a small light 270mm.
>
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Micro 4/3s the Dark-side

[Don Guthrie]

I have  crossed the line & purchased a 4/3s camera. My setup of camera & 
4 lenses cost less than $200!
Olympus Pen E PL1 body only  from Amazon $169.00, Pentax to Micro 4/3s 
adapter off-brand $20.00 and

4 manual Pentax lens 28mm 50mm 135mm and 35-80 zoom.

Here are a few photos taken after I opened the box popped in the battery 
and set the camera to Aperture priority.

Some from inside fast-food place and others of flowers outside my house.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7268313246/in/set-72157629892440362/lightbox/

I have a second batch to look at today. Looks like a usable waking 
camera & 2nd camera for planned outings.

Next week there is a local festival here where I will try the movie mode.

It is great to get some use out of these lenses. They are  doubled 
effective focal length which leaves me wanting something on the WA side.

But the 135mm does make for a small light 270mm.

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Re: Boris PESO (3 shots GESO) #22 - David Broza concert

[Bob Sullivan]

Boris,
I like the set.  The soundboard shot is inspired.
I might make the two lighted doorways (left) in the 3rd shot disappear.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Here is the link:
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/05/peso-2012-22-david-broza.html
>
> I should say that in this kind of light my K-5 AF with DA* 16-50/2.8 was
> rather inaccurate. But thankfully I had a focusing screen that helped me
> pull out these shots.
>
> Be brutal and honest. Thankfully the artist's web site gave me permission to
> publish these shots...
>
> Boris
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RE: Web site feedback - OT

[Don Guthrie]

Looks great on my IPAD Simple clean look and I like the black frame 
around BW pix. Navigation seems straight-forward.


Picture are sad but good. Been through tornado aftermath. It can leave 
you speechless. These photos speak for themselves.





Message: 4
Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 20:53:21 -0500
From: Jeffery Smith 
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: Web site feedback - OT
Message-ID: <87849066-dba0-401a-9918-f9129ed0d...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii

After a hiatus of about 6 years, I'm rebuilding a minimalist website from the 
ground up. I decided to make it easy to view...on an iPad.

Can some of you take a look and let me know what you think of the format? I'm 
not a pro, so there is nothing promotional on it. And the only gallery I have 
up so far is about 80 photos from the Lower 9th Ward taken after Katrina. All 
taken with Tri-X film with a rangefinder, so it is totally OT.

The site is www.400tx.com.

Thanks much, in advance.

Jeffery

Sent from my iPad

Jeffery L. Smith
New Orleans, Louisiana
USA



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RE: Subject: PESO - Evening Columbine

[Don Guthrie]

Rick quite lovely and well taken. I can't seem to get enuf flower pics 
this Spring. I have my own Columbine photo I will post soon.






Message: 12
Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 17:38:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rick Womer 
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Subject: PESO - Evening Columbine
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On my way home from work, rather than to work:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15777433

or

http://phillyrick.smugmug.com/Other/Photo-Every-So-Often/22104662_KBBF9K#!i=1864759682&k=Rq5tTR8&lb=1&s=A


Comments appreciated!


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RE: GESO - farewell show

[John Sessoms]

From: Derby Chang


My friend Loene is moving to Georgia (USA) for a few months. Anyone know
Griffin?

She had one last show before she leaves.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_05/12_05_loene/index.htm

TIL; shooting at 6400 is a bucket of fun


Griffin is part of the Atlanta metropolitan sprawl; about halfway 
between Atlanta and Macon.


It's Hollywood's idea of what a southern small town looks like. It 
appeared in Driving Miss Daisy, Mississipi Burning and The Fighting 
Temptations.



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Re: Tokina AT-X 828 AF PRO 80-200mm f/2.8 question

[John Sessoms]

From: Darren Addy


I'm curious... if it shows up in Photoshop as a Pentax-F 35-105mm,
does that mean that it is also misreading the focal length that this
lens is set at (when doing image stabilization)?
If it is doing image stabilization for a 105mm focal length when the
lens is set to 200mm, that could definitely lead to some lack of
sharpness. I think I will see if I get better results with Image
Stabilization off and tripod mount it (which I guess I should be doing
to test for sharpness anyway!).


I don't know.

I think the camera just has to have some kind of a code to bury in the 
EXIF to identify the lens & it uses the code that PhotoShop thinks is 
the Pentax-F 35-105.


I don't know why it wouldn't use the code for the FA* 80-200/2.8 ED 
[IF]? But it apparently doesn't


I just did a quick test on mine with the K20D & when you press the INFO 
button, it shows the correct focal length - 80 = 80, 200 = 200 and in 
between shows proportional focal lengths in between.




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Boris PESO (3 shots GESO) #22 - David Broza concert

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

Here is the link:
http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/05/peso-2012-22-david-broza.html

I should say that in this kind of light my K-5 AF with DA* 16-50/2.8 was 
rather inaccurate. But thankfully I had a focusing screen that helped me 
pull out these shots.


Be brutal and honest. Thankfully the artist's web site gave me 
permission to publish these shots...


Boris

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Re: PESO - Evening Columbine

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, Dave!

Rick
 
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Quite nice, i like your choice of DOF here.

Dave

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> On my way home from work, rather than to work:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15777433
>
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>
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>
> Comments appreciated!
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RE: OT: iMaj

[Bob W]

> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> John Sessoms
> >> It would be nice if a certain photographic equipment company with
> which we are all familiar would attend to the following principle:
> >> "Sir Jonathan said Apple products were tools 'and we don't want
> design to get in the way'."
> >
> > Good philosophy.  The trouble with using good tools is that bad ones
> start to piss you off very quickly.
> >
> > Dave
> 
> Unless the bad tool is a hammer. You can always just hit something with
> it if you have a hammer. Instant catharsis.
> 

I'd buy a good hammer and hit the bad hammer with it.

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PESO - PAD - St. Bridget's Church - Print a Day 2

[George Sinos]

Day 2 of the Print-a-Day-for-30-days experiment is this photo of two
of the altars in St. Bridget's church.  This is another test shot from
the same church in yesterday's photo. Photographing the church will be
a longer term project for this year.

Someone asked about the location of this church yesterday.  It is in
Omaha, Nebraska.



Given all of the linen and marble in the photo you might think setting
the white balance would be easy. In this photo, the perception of
white is more important than a technically correct white. In a print,
the color of the paper has an effect on the "whiteness" in the photo.

Lightroom can help with this if you've calibrated your monitor and
have accurate profiles for the ink and paper you've chosen.  But the
process isn't perfect.  A simulation on a monitor will never perfectly
match a print.  So, there isn't any substitute for a test print.

On the screen, even though I'm using a calibrated monitor, I don't
know what anyone else will be using.  My guess is most people will
have the monitor setup just as it came from the factory.  It's
probably set way to bright and the colors will likely skew to the blue
end of the scale.  I just take my best shot at getting it right for a
calibrated monitor and let the chips fall where they may.

GS

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Re: OT: Sometimes computers just make me crazy.

[John Sessoms]

From: "Collin Brendemuehl"


I tried NAS on a netgear router.
Didn't work.
The drive was "shared" but also locked from multi-access.
When on system had it mapped the others could not access it.
It was frustrating, so I gave up.
(I think it will allow multi-access for reading, but not for writing.)

SAN is so much better than NAS.


In my case, I think the only advantage of the NAS is I've got it & it's 
(currently?) working (again?).


I don't know if it matters that both the NAS & the router are by D-link. 
I'm thinking about eventually getting another NAS, and I'm looking at 
the Netgear version Next time around.


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Re: OT: Sometimes computers just make me crazy.

[Mat Maessen]

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Collin Brendemuehl
 wrote:
> SAN is so much better than NAS.

If you have the budget to afford a real SAN for your home network, I
want your source of income. :-P

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Re: OT: Sometimes computers just make me crazy.

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On May 25, 2012, at 13:00, John Sessoms wrote:
> 
> I restarted everything in sequence - this computer, NAS, Laptop, PhotoShop 
> computer ... and everything is forgiven. They're all mapping the NAS, and 
> they're all printing to the network printer, each of the 3 computers can see 
> the shared folders on the other two computers and they can all reach the 
> internet.
> 

Problem solved.  Good!

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Re: OT: Sometimes computers just make me crazy.

[John Sessoms]

From: Charles Robinson


On May 23, 2012, at 21:22, John Sessoms wrote:

If I take the cable going back to the hub/switch/whatever and
connect it directly to the Ethernet port on either computer in the
other room, I get the same results. I can print. I can access the
internet. I can see the shared folders back there from this
computer and I can see the shared folders on this computer from
back there.


Well, at least you've ruled out hardware failure of the hub/switch.

Good luck - sounds like something more obtuse and funky to diagnose!


I do not have a clue what the problem was. I shut everything down and 
crawled under the desk to get to the router.


The router was sitting on the floor under the desk because the cable to 
the network printer was too short for it to sit anywhere else. I swapped 
cables around so I could reposition the router up on top of the desk so 
I won't have to crawl under there to get to it next time things get screwy.


I restarted everything in sequence - this computer, NAS, Laptop, 
PhotoShop computer ... and everything is forgiven. They're all mapping 
the NAS, and they're all printing to the network printer, each of the 3 
computers can see the shared folders on the other two computers and they 
can all reach the internet.


"I can't think about that right now. If I do, I'll go crazy. I'll think 
about that tomorrow."


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Canon Powershot G1X vs. Pentax K-01

[Jens]

I did a micro test. Canon G1X vs. Pentax K-01. Take a look:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157629887950310/

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Re: OT: iMaj

[John Sessoms]

From: David Mann


On May 24, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:


It would be nice if a certain photographic equipment company with which we are 
all familiar would attend to the following principle:
"Sir Jonathan said Apple products were tools 'and we don't want design to get in the 
way'."


Good philosophy.  The trouble with using good tools is that bad ones start to 
piss you off very quickly.

Dave


Unless the bad tool is a hammer. You can always just hit something with 
it if you have a hammer. Instant catharsis.


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Re: PESO 2012 - 054 - GDG

[steve harley]

on 2012-05-25 9:32 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote

The year flies by, and crawls at the same time. Memorial Day coming up already. 
Wow.

A blog post again at last.

   http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/memorial


quirky image with the drawbridge standing in for a remembered gallows

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Re: Web site feedback - OT

[Jeffery Smith]

Thanks for the help and suggestions. I'll check for those dupes. And I'll try 
to lower the photos a bit. Not sure how to do the iPad rotation thing, but I 
have the manuals on PDF, so it should be easy to find if there is a solution 
there.

I really didn't put much thought into the index page. I just needed one, so I 
put something there. I know it doesn't fit well on an iPad.

Thanks much for the suggestions. I really do need the design feedback from a 
variety of viewers who have some web design experience.

Jeffery


On May 25, 2012, at 10:23 AM, steve harley wrote:

> on 2012-05-24 19:53 Jeffery Smith wrote
>> The site is www.400tx.com.
> 
> hi Jeffery, nice domain name ;?>
> 
> here's feedback from a sometime web developer:
> 
> i looked with an iPad 2 and it is well laid out, and easy to figure out; 
> strong gallery too; i appreciate the minimal approach; i looked before the 
> changes you mentioned this morning
> 
> i noticed a few design issues — not biggies, and some possibly intentional:
> 
> - i would find it more comfortable if the photos in the gallery had a little 
> more breathing room from top of page; for iPad consider centering it on the 
> screen
> 
> - the text on the front page (very little, i know) feels uncomfortable 
> because the style is not as minimal as the rest, it feels more decorative
> 
> - spacing of the navigation arrows is a little uneven; it is also hard to hit 
> such small arrows; i would suggest making each gallery photo itself a link to 
> the next in the gallery to make an easier target (this is common paradigm)
> 
> - i looked at all the images; very strong, but there are some dupes
> 
> - there is no home link from the gallery pages; and with such a large gallery 
> an index or a running row of sequence thumbnails would probably help (though 
> it would be less minimal, and may be hard to do without a more sophisticated 
> production tool
> 
> 
> and a couple of glitches:
> 
> if i view it in portrait on iPad, it fits well, then i rotate to landscape it 
> enlarges well — good responsive design — however when i then rotate back to 
> portrait it gets stuck in "too big" mode, and back to landscape it is even 
> more "too big"; a double-tap and it resizes as needed; i'm not that 
> experienced in the mechanics of this so i'm not sure if this is as simple as 
> some CSS or if it would require Javascript to respond to these changes 
> consistently
> 
> also the link from copyright notice is mangled — a couple of spaces got 
> glommed onto the end as entities (kudos for choosing a creative commons 
> license)
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PESO 2012 - 054 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

The year flies by, and crawls at the same time. Memorial Day coming up already. 
Wow.

A blog post again at last.

  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/memorial

Thanks for looking. Comments always appreciated.

Godfrey
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Re: Web site feedback - OT

[steve harley]

on 2012-05-24 19:53 Jeffery Smith wrote

The site is www.400tx.com.


hi Jeffery, nice domain name ;?>

here's feedback from a sometime web developer:

i looked with an iPad 2 and it is well laid out, and easy to figure out; strong 
gallery too; i appreciate the minimal approach; i looked before the changes you 
mentioned this morning


i noticed a few design issues — not biggies, and some possibly intentional:

- i would find it more comfortable if the photos in the gallery had a little 
more breathing room from top of page; for iPad consider centering it on the screen


- the text on the front page (very little, i know) feels uncomfortable because 
the style is not as minimal as the rest, it feels more decorative


- spacing of the navigation arrows is a little uneven; it is also hard to hit 
such small arrows; i would suggest making each gallery photo itself a link to 
the next in the gallery to make an easier target (this is common paradigm)


- i looked at all the images; very strong, but there are some dupes

- there is no home link from the gallery pages; and with such a large gallery 
an index or a running row of sequence thumbnails would probably help (though it 
would be less minimal, and may be hard to do without a more sophisticated 
production tool



and a couple of glitches:

if i view it in portrait on iPad, it fits well, then i rotate to landscape it 
enlarges well — good responsive design — however when i then rotate back to 
portrait it gets stuck in "too big" mode, and back to landscape it is even more 
"too big"; a double-tap and it resizes as needed; i'm not that experienced in 
the mechanics of this so i'm not sure if this is as simple as some CSS or if it 
would require Javascript to respond to these changes consistently


also the link from copyright notice is mangled — a couple of spaces got glommed 
onto the end as entities (kudos for choosing a creative commons license)


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Re: K-30 preorder on Amazon but no WS kit lens?

[steve harley]

on 2012-05-25 8:57 Darren Addy wrote


I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks it is odd that a
weather-sealed camera is being sold without a weather-sealed kit lens.


that's how the K200d was sold ... i bought mine with the kit lens and the 
weather sealing was still an attraction


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Re: Web site feedback - OT

[Charles Robinson]

On May 24, 2012, at 20:53, Jeffery Smith wrote:

> After a hiatus of about 6 years, I'm rebuilding a minimalist website from the 
> ground up. I decided to make it easy to view...on an iPad. 
> 
> Can some of you take a look and let me know what you think of the format? I'm 
> not a pro, so there is nothing promotional on it. And the only gallery I have 
> up so far is about 80 photos from the Lower 9th Ward taken after Katrina. All 
> taken with Tri-X film with a rangefinder, so it is totally OT.
> 
> The site is www.400tx.com. 
> 

At the risk of sounding enthusiastic about such a grim subject... those are 
great.

Looks good on the laptop and the iPad(2).

Some of the "house on top of car" shots are really something.

I noticed a couple of repeats in the gallery, but overall I have to say that's 
a solid sequence of images.  Very well done!

Also: I do like the spare interface.

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K-30 preorder on Amazon but no WS kit lens?

[Darren Addy]

I noticed the other day that the K-30 has shown up on Amazon (for pre-order).
$849 for the body and $899 with the kit lens.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks it is odd that a
weather-sealed camera is being sold without a weather-sealed kit lens.
(Obviously keeps the price tag lower, but this is a disconnect for the
marketing dept. It should ALSO be offered with the WS lens so that
people will look into the reasons for the price difference (and have a
choice). If you make people look into weather sealing when it is an
advantage for your brand, then you enhance your brand (in the minds of
those people who deem it important).

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Re: PESO - Free Parking

[David J Brooks]

Bike knots :-)

Dave

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 9:55 PM, frank theriault
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> When bike messengers congregate:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/05/free-parking.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
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> cheers,
> frank
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Re: PESO - Evening Columbine

[David J Brooks]

Quite nice, i like your choice of DOF here.

Dave

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> On my way home from work, rather than to work:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15777433
>
> or
>
> http://phillyrick.smugmug.com/Other/Photo-Every-So-Often/22104662_KBBF9K#!i=1864759682&k=Rq5tTR8&lb=1&s=A
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> Comments appreciated!
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Re: PESO - PAD - St. Bridget's Church

[David J Brooks]

Lovely

Dave

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:32 PM, George Sinos  wrote:
> A few days ago, Mike Johnston of The Online Photographer suggested
> that you may improve your printing skills by printing a different
> photo every day, for 30days.



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Re: PESO a bit of Hollywood glam

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On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Great job on the light. But your model seems to be tense.
> Paul

Thats because she has heard of the PDML.:-)

Great job Bruce

Dave
>
> On May 24, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>
>> Was introduced to a lovely lady who wanted to do a creative shoot. I
>> suggested Hollywood glamour ala George Hurrell and she said yeah ...
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7262010996/lightbox/
>>
>> This is the first of a few I'll be retouching. The goal was B&W, but I
>> couldn't resist keeping this one colour.
>>
>> The shoot took place yesterday in The Gallery Studio Cafe in New
>> Toronto. There's a piano, which of course we made use of, and a nicely
>> decorated bar with a big ol' espresso machine, which also made it into
>> some shots. We basically had the run of the place. Dorothy enlisted
>> two of her ex-colleagues (she was an on-air personality with a talk
>> show on Rogers cable TV) for makeup and hair and they did a superb
>> job. I have BTS shots of the two of them working on Dorothy
>> simultaneously.
>>
>> I wanted to get the "focussed-light with rapid fall-off" look typical
>> of George Hurrell's work, so I used the ring-light-in-a-softbox that I
>> created especially for the shoot and tested on my wife last week.
>> George used multiple big hotlights with fresnel lenses to get his
>> look, so we clearly would only be able to approximate it but I think
>> we didn't do too badly. He also spent hours dodging and burning to get
>> his deep shadows and body contouring, so at least that part I'll be
>> able to emulate accurately! :-)
>>
>> K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 39mm/f:8.0, 100 ISO, 125th sec.
>> AF160 ringlight in 18" Westcott Apollo softbox on monopod, held above
>> and in front of subject's face.
>> AF540 in 42" silvered umbrella for fill, camera-left.
>> AF540 with snoot for hair, well back camera-right.
>> Cowboy Studios radio triggers.
>> Lr and Ps for post and retouching.
>>
>> Comments welcome!
>>
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Re: Web site feedback - OT

[Darren Addy]

While we are on the OT subject, I'll mention that the official lingo
for a site that renders well on everything from a big screen to a
smartphone is called "Responsive".
Use that term to Google whatever you want to learn about regarding
your site redesign.

For example:
If you are running a Wordpress-based site, you would probably google
"Wordpress Responsive template".
http://www.splashnology.com/article/20-free-responsive-wordpress-themes/3973/

If you wanted to learn about Responsive web design you would google
that and find this:
http://www.abookapart.com/products/responsive-web-design
http://www.netmagazine.com/features/50-fantastic-tools-responsive-web-design
http://thinkvitamin.com/design/beginners-guide-to-responsive-web-design/

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Re: Web site feedback - OT

[Jeffery Smith]

Thanks for the suggestions. I just placed a link back to home on the
pages (^). I'm still working on the best way to do thumbnails. In
previous web editors, I made a table and placed thumbnails in the
boxes on the table. Freeway doesn't do tables, but does allow
duplication of boxes as well as evenly spreading the boxes
horizontally and vertically.

Thanks again!

Jeffery

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Kenton Brede  wrote:
> Jeffry,
> I like the minimalism.  The site looked fine on my ipad "v3" as well
> as Safari and Firefox.  I'm with Godfrey, galleries need thumbnails
> and a link back to home.  BTW, the pics are great. :)
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>
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Jeffery Smith  wrote:
>> After a hiatus of about 6 years, I'm rebuilding a minimalist website from 
>> the ground up. I decided to make it easy to view...on an iPad.
>>
>> Can some of you take a look and let me know what you think of the format? 
>> I'm not a pro, so there is nothing promotional on it. And the only gallery I 
>> have up so far is about 80 photos from the Lower 9th Ward taken after 
>> Katrina. All taken with Tri-X film with a rangefinder, so it is totally OT.
>>
>> The site is www.400tx.com.
>>
>> Thanks much, in advance.
>>
>> Jeffery
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
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>> New Orleans, Louisiana
>> USA
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Re: PESO a bit of Hollywood glam

[Paul Stenquist]

You could probably release a bit of the tension in her face by smoothing out 
her brow above her left eye. Worth a try IMO. 
Paul
On May 25, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

> I'm sure you've seen Hurrell's work, if you've seen any b&w shots of
> Hollywood stars.
> 
> https://www.google.com/search?q=george+hurrell&tbm=isch
> 
> I agree her hair needs to be revealed more, and I need to brighten her
> eye as well, per Paul's suggestion, so I'm off to do some
> dodge'n'burn. :-)
> 
> Thanks, Bob!
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>> 
>> Bruce,
>> I don't know George Hurrell's style at all, but I enjoyed the photo.
>> For such a glamorous shot, I miss her luxurious hair...needs light!
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>> 
>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Bruce Walker 
>> wrote:
>>> Was introduced to a lovely lady who wanted to do a creative shoot. I
>>> suggested Hollywood glamour ala George Hurrell and she said yeah ...
>>> 
>>> http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7262010996/lightbox/
>>> 
>>> This is the first of a few I'll be retouching. The goal was B&W, but I
>>> couldn't resist keeping this one colour.
>>> 
>>> The shoot took place yesterday in The Gallery Studio Cafe in New
>>> Toronto. There's a piano, which of course we made use of, and a nicely
>>> decorated bar with a big ol' espresso machine, which also made it into
>>> some shots. We basically had the run of the place. Dorothy enlisted
>>> two of her ex-colleagues (she was an on-air personality with a talk
>>> show on Rogers cable TV) for makeup and hair and they did a superb
>>> job. I have BTS shots of the two of them working on Dorothy
>>> simultaneously.
>>> 
>>> I wanted to get the "focussed-light with rapid fall-off" look typical
>>> of George Hurrell's work, so I used the ring-light-in-a-softbox that I
>>> created especially for the shoot and tested on my wife last week.
>>> George used multiple big hotlights with fresnel lenses to get his
>>> look, so we clearly would only be able to approximate it but I think
>>> we didn't do too badly. He also spent hours dodging and burning to get
>>> his deep shadows and body contouring, so at least that part I'll be
>>> able to emulate accurately! :-)
>>> 
>>> K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 39mm/f:8.0, 100 ISO, 125th sec.
>>> AF160 ringlight in 18" Westcott Apollo softbox on monopod, held above
>>> and in front of subject's face.
>>> AF540 in 42" silvered umbrella for fill, camera-left.
>>> AF540 with snoot for hair, well back camera-right.
>>> Cowboy Studios radio triggers.
>>> Lr and Ps for post and retouching.
>>> 
>>> Comments welcome!
>>> 
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Re: Web site feedback - OT

[Kenton Brede]

Jeffry,
I like the minimalism.  The site looked fine on my ipad "v3" as well
as Safari and Firefox.  I'm with Godfrey, galleries need thumbnails
and a link back to home.  BTW, the pics are great. :)

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On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Jeffery Smith  wrote:
> After a hiatus of about 6 years, I'm rebuilding a minimalist website from the 
> ground up. I decided to make it easy to view...on an iPad.
>
> Can some of you take a look and let me know what you think of the format? I'm 
> not a pro, so there is nothing promotional on it. And the only gallery I have 
> up so far is about 80 photos from the Lower 9th Ward taken after Katrina. All 
> taken with Tri-X film with a rangefinder, so it is totally OT.
>
> The site is www.400tx.com.
>
> Thanks much, in advance.
>
> Jeffery
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
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> USA
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Re: Being a Tourist in Italy

[Daniel J. Matyola]

We have been to Italy four times, for a week each.  Don't try to hit
too many cities;  the joy of Italy is relaxing in a piazza sipping
espresso or limoncello and just enjoying life.

Rome is by far the most interesting, with many great museums, the
Colosseum and the Forum, the street life and the Sistine Chapel.
Venice is a crowded tourist disaster in the daytime, but in the
evening, after the large groups leave, St Marks square is truly
magical.  Florence has great food, David, the Ufizzi and the marvelous
view from across the river, best seen from the Piazzella Michelangelo.

The most enjoyable part of Italy, however, is the Naples area, which
has the kind of Italian food that most of us love, great scenery, and
the most Italian lifestyle.  Sorrento, Amalfi, Positano, Ravello.
Capri all are great places to just enjoy the food, the wine (or
Limoncello), the views and the people.

I have never been bored in Italiy, not for a moment, not even in Milano.

Dan Matyola
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On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 3:55 AM, John Coyle  wrote:
> Hi Doug - I spent a month in Italy last year, starting in Milan and then went 
> to Verona,
> Venice, Ravenna (Hi Dario!), Bologna, Lucca, Florence and Rome.  We travelled 
> by car
> between Venice and Rome, and the only aspect I would advise you about is 
> ensure you have a
> GPS navigator in the car you hire.  Signage in the cities is clear, but 
> generally very
> close to the turn you need to make, so it's easy to miss.  Bipin has covered 
> just about
> everything else.
> We had a diesel Audi A4 wagon, as there were four of us, and it was very 
> economical.  Fuel
> is not cheap, but if you stay on the major roads the economy can be good.  I 
> found driving
> in Italy not terribly stressful (I have driven a couple of times in France as 
> well, so the
> LHD scenario was not new), apart from ensuring you are aware of everything 
> and everyone
> around you - shouldn't be a problem for a NutDriver!
> Italy is a great country, we found the people friendly and helpful.  The 
> scenery in the
> northern part (Venice to Lucca) is spectacular, helped by we had 
> exceptionally good
> weather most of the trip.
> Photography-wise, agree with Bipin a very wide angle lens is essential;  for 
> over 80% of
> my photographs I used my 16-45.  Cranking up the ISO will enable you to 
> capture good
> interiors, as flash cannot be used in many places - but you can in the 
> Vatican,
> surprisingly enough.  Tip - hang around the Vatican tourist office (left-hand 
> side of the
> square as you look at St. Peter's) at 2:30 every day for an English-language 
> guided tour,
> conducted by one of the priests posted there - our guide was a Canadian.  
> Great value for
> money - it's free!
> In Venice, go for the Doge's Palace secret tour,: you have to book online, 
> but again it's
> cheap and you get to go to parts of the palace not open to tourists on their 
> own.
> HTH - don't hesitate to ask if I can help with any particular query.
>
>
> John Coyle
> Brisbane, Australia
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bipin 
> Gupta
> Sent: Friday, 25 May 2012 3:39 AM
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Being a Tourist in Italy
>
> Hi Dough, we were in Italy for a week - usual tourist route - Naples, Rome, 
> Pisa,
> Florence, Genoa, Turin,  Venice and back to Rome via San Marino. We rented a 
> motor scooter
> between Pisa and Florence for the fun of it.
> Here are some things to remember:-
> Italy is pretty small. For that matter entire Europe too compared to the US. 
> So doing 250
> Km per day is no big deal. You can do it in easily in (3 to 4) hours with a 
> tea and
> restroom break. So your driving limit between 1100 to 1300 hrs may not 
> suffice.
> Note: most tea/coffee stop places serve luke warm tea or coffee. So smile and 
> say you want
> it piping hot.
> Italy has stricter drink driving laws, allowing 0.5 milligrams of alcohol per 
> millilitre
> of blood.
> Seat belts front and rear are obligatory everywhere, unless you are using a 
> motor scooter
> where a helmet and a visible jacket is a must.
> Be careful of merry young Italian drivers. Here is why: tiny cars in very 
> narrow roads can
> literally mean an inch away; they keep cutting you off; they will almost run 
> over you;
> they ignore stop signs and traffic lights, etc. Be on the lookout brother and 
>  drive safe.
> To some RHD folks (Britain, Japan, India), LHD can be very confusing.
> When approaching a roundabout give way to traffic already on the roundabout, 
> on your left.
> Speeding and other traffic offences are subject to extremely heavy 
> on-the-spot fines.
> Speed limits: on motorway 130 Km - Radar traps are frequent. Dual Carriageway 
> 110 Km.
> Towns 50 Km. In the rains these limits drop.
> Two warning triangle should be carried at all times.
> The winding and slow country roads will drive you crazy eventua

Re: PESO a bit of Hollywood glam

[Bruce Walker]

Thanks, Frank!

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:39 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Very sultry and sexy!
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
> Christopher Hitchens
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Bruce Walker 
> Sent: May 24, 2012 5/24/12
> To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List 
> Subject: PESO a bit of Hollywood glam
>
> Was introduced to a lovely lady who wanted to do a creative shoot. I
> suggested Hollywood glamour ala George Hurrell and she said yeah ...
>
> http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7262010996/lightbox/
>
> This is the first of a few I'll be retouching. The goal was B&W, but I
> couldn't resist keeping this one colour.
>
> The shoot took place yesterday in The Gallery Studio Cafe in New
> Toronto. There's a piano, which of course we made use of, and a nicely
> decorated bar with a big ol' espresso machine, which also made it into
> some shots. We basically had the run of the place. Dorothy enlisted
> two of her ex-colleagues (she was an on-air personality with a talk
> show on Rogers cable TV) for makeup and hair and they did a superb
> job. I have BTS shots of the two of them working on Dorothy
> simultaneously.
>
> I wanted to get the "focussed-light with rapid fall-off" look typical
> of George Hurrell's work, so I used the ring-light-in-a-softbox that I
> created especially for the shoot and tested on my wife last week.
> George used multiple big hotlights with fresnel lenses to get his
> look, so we clearly would only be able to approximate it but I think
> we didn't do too badly. He also spent hours dodging and burning to get
> his deep shadows and body contouring, so at least that part I'll be
> able to emulate accurately! :-)
>
> K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 39mm/f:8.0, 100 ISO, 125th sec.
> AF160 ringlight in 18" Westcott Apollo softbox on monopod, held above
> and in front of subject's face.
> AF540 in 42" silvered umbrella for fill, camera-left.
> AF540 with snoot for hair, well back camera-right.
> Cowboy Studios radio triggers.
> Lr and Ps for post and retouching.
>
> Comments welcome!
>
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Re: PESO a bit of Hollywood glam

[Bruce Walker]

Hey, Frank! This was actually a midday shoot -- noon through 4 PM --
so I think you'd have been hard at work. But I will drop you a line.
Derek thought the whole project was great, especially since his place
filled up with so many great looking ladies. :-)


On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:41 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Oh yeah, lemme know next time. Love to pop by (although I bad a union meeting 
> last night so it would not have worked).
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
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> Christopher Hitchens
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Bruce Walker 
> Sent: May 24, 2012 5/24/12
> To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List 
> Subject: PESO a bit of Hollywood glam
>
> Was introduced to a lovely lady who wanted to do a creative shoot. I
> suggested Hollywood glamour ala George Hurrell and she said yeah ...
>
> http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7262010996/lightbox/
>
> This is the first of a few I'll be retouching. The goal was B&W, but I
> couldn't resist keeping this one colour.
>
> The shoot took place yesterday in The Gallery Studio Cafe in New
> Toronto. There's a piano, which of course we made use of, and a nicely
> decorated bar with a big ol' espresso machine, which also made it into
> some shots. We basically had the run of the place. Dorothy enlisted
> two of her ex-colleagues (she was an on-air personality with a talk
> show on Rogers cable TV) for makeup and hair and they did a superb
> job. I have BTS shots of the two of them working on Dorothy
> simultaneously.
>
> I wanted to get the "focussed-light with rapid fall-off" look typical
> of George Hurrell's work, so I used the ring-light-in-a-softbox that I
> created especially for the shoot and tested on my wife last week.
> George used multiple big hotlights with fresnel lenses to get his
> look, so we clearly would only be able to approximate it but I think
> we didn't do too badly. He also spent hours dodging and burning to get
> his deep shadows and body contouring, so at least that part I'll be
> able to emulate accurately! :-)
>
> K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 39mm/f:8.0, 100 ISO, 125th sec.
> AF160 ringlight in 18" Westcott Apollo softbox on monopod, held above
> and in front of subject's face.
> AF540 in 42" silvered umbrella for fill, camera-left.
> AF540 with snoot for hair, well back camera-right.
> Cowboy Studios radio triggers.
> Lr and Ps for post and retouching.
>
> Comments welcome!
>
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Re: PESO a bit of Hollywood glam

[Bruce Walker]

I'm sure you've seen Hurrell's work, if you've seen any b&w shots of
Hollywood stars.

https://www.google.com/search?q=george+hurrell&tbm=isch

I agree her hair needs to be revealed more, and I need to brighten her
eye as well, per Paul's suggestion, so I'm off to do some
dodge'n'burn. :-)

Thanks, Bob!


On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>
> Bruce,
> I don't know George Hurrell's style at all, but I enjoyed the photo.
> For such a glamorous shot, I miss her luxurious hair...needs light!
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Bruce Walker 
> wrote:
> > Was introduced to a lovely lady who wanted to do a creative shoot. I
> > suggested Hollywood glamour ala George Hurrell and she said yeah ...
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7262010996/lightbox/
> >
> > This is the first of a few I'll be retouching. The goal was B&W, but I
> > couldn't resist keeping this one colour.
> >
> > The shoot took place yesterday in The Gallery Studio Cafe in New
> > Toronto. There's a piano, which of course we made use of, and a nicely
> > decorated bar with a big ol' espresso machine, which also made it into
> > some shots. We basically had the run of the place. Dorothy enlisted
> > two of her ex-colleagues (she was an on-air personality with a talk
> > show on Rogers cable TV) for makeup and hair and they did a superb
> > job. I have BTS shots of the two of them working on Dorothy
> > simultaneously.
> >
> > I wanted to get the "focussed-light with rapid fall-off" look typical
> > of George Hurrell's work, so I used the ring-light-in-a-softbox that I
> > created especially for the shoot and tested on my wife last week.
> > George used multiple big hotlights with fresnel lenses to get his
> > look, so we clearly would only be able to approximate it but I think
> > we didn't do too badly. He also spent hours dodging and burning to get
> > his deep shadows and body contouring, so at least that part I'll be
> > able to emulate accurately! :-)
> >
> > K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 39mm/f:8.0, 100 ISO, 125th sec.
> > AF160 ringlight in 18" Westcott Apollo softbox on monopod, held above
> > and in front of subject's face.
> > AF540 in 42" silvered umbrella for fill, camera-left.
> > AF540 with snoot for hair, well back camera-right.
> > Cowboy Studios radio triggers.
> > Lr and Ps for post and retouching.
> >
> > Comments welcome!
> >
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Re: PESO - PAD - St. Bridget's Church

[George Sinos]

Thanks for the comments everyone.  This is going to be an interesting
project.  I'm looking forward to the next few weeks. gs
George Sinos

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On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Daniel J. Matyola
 wrote:
> Great image.
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:32 PM, George Sinos  wrote:
>> A few days ago, Mike Johnston of The Online Photographer suggested
>> that you may improve your printing skills by printing a different
>> photo every day, for 30days.
>>
>> Today is my seventh day into the project and I must admit that I'm
>> getting more comfortable with printing. My skills may or may not be
>> improving but I've learned a lot about printing through Lightroom 4.
>> Previously I did the majority of printing through Photoshop.
>>
>> Now that I have a 7 day cushion I decided to post screen versions of
>> the photos I've selected for prints.
>>
>> St. Bridget's is the beautiful old church I attended during my grade
>> school and high school years. I'll be returning over the next few
>> weeks to get additional photos. This is one of the initial test shots.
>>
>> 
>>
>> There are a number of churches in the area that are expected to be
>> closed over the next year.  Population shift and finances are the
>> primary reasons.  Luckily, this beautiful old church isn't one of
>> them.  My intention is to get all of them photographed before it's too
>> late.
>>
>> gs
>>
>> George Sinos
>> 
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Re: Web site feedback - OT

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Hi Jeffrey,

I like the spare layout.

- Need a way to get back to the home page.
- I'd like to be able to see a thumbnail array of a gallery set.

Godfrey

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Jeffery Smith  wrote:
> After a hiatus of about 6 years, I'm rebuilding a minimalist website from the 
> ground up. I decided to make it easy to view...on an iPad.
>
> Can some of you take a look and let me know what you think of the format? I'm 
> not a pro, so there is nothing promotional on it. And the only gallery I have 
> up so far is about 80 photos from the Lower 9th Ward taken after Katrina. All 
> taken with Tri-X film with a rangefinder, so it is totally OT.
>
> The site is www.400tx.com.
>
> Thanks much, in advance.
>
> Jeffery
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Jeffery L. Smith
> New Orleans, Louisiana
> USA
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Re: Boris peso #21 - Rising with the sun

[Paul Stenquist]

I like this a lot. It does feel to be a bit lacking in mid range contrast. You 
might try altering the curve a bit through the middle and see if that gives it 
a bit more tonal separation.
Paul
On May 25, 2012, at 3:56 AM, John Coyle wrote:

> Great shot - well seen and captured Boris.
> 
> John Coyle
> Brisbane, Australia
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Boris 
> Liberman
> Sent: Friday, 25 May 2012 3:27 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Boris peso #21 - Rising with the sun
> 
> Hello.
> 
> Please have a look and give me your honest and brutal say.
> 
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/05/peso-2012-21-rising-with-sun.html
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Boris
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RE: Boris peso #21 - Rising with the sun

[John Coyle]

Great shot - well seen and captured Boris.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia




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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Boris 
Liberman
Sent: Friday, 25 May 2012 3:27 AM
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Subject: Boris peso #21 - Rising with the sun

Hello.

Please have a look and give me your honest and brutal say.

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2012/05/peso-2012-21-rising-with-sun.html

Thanks.

Boris

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RE: Being a Tourist in Italy

[John Coyle]

Hi Doug - I spent a month in Italy last year, starting in Milan and then went 
to Verona,
Venice, Ravenna (Hi Dario!), Bologna, Lucca, Florence and Rome.  We travelled 
by car
between Venice and Rome, and the only aspect I would advise you about is ensure 
you have a
GPS navigator in the car you hire.  Signage in the cities is clear, but 
generally very
close to the turn you need to make, so it's easy to miss.  Bipin has covered 
just about
everything else.
We had a diesel Audi A4 wagon, as there were four of us, and it was very 
economical.  Fuel
is not cheap, but if you stay on the major roads the economy can be good.  I 
found driving
in Italy not terribly stressful (I have driven a couple of times in France as 
well, so the
LHD scenario was not new), apart from ensuring you are aware of everything and 
everyone
around you - shouldn't be a problem for a NutDriver!
Italy is a great country, we found the people friendly and helpful.  The 
scenery in the
northern part (Venice to Lucca) is spectacular, helped by we had exceptionally 
good
weather most of the trip.  
Photography-wise, agree with Bipin a very wide angle lens is essential;  for 
over 80% of
my photographs I used my 16-45.  Cranking up the ISO will enable you to capture 
good
interiors, as flash cannot be used in many places - but you can in the Vatican,
surprisingly enough.  Tip - hang around the Vatican tourist office (left-hand 
side of the
square as you look at St. Peter's) at 2:30 every day for an English-language 
guided tour,
conducted by one of the priests posted there - our guide was a Canadian.  Great 
value for
money - it's free!
In Venice, go for the Doge's Palace secret tour,: you have to book online, but 
again it's
cheap and you get to go to parts of the palace not open to tourists on their 
own.
HTH - don't hesitate to ask if I can help with any particular query.


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia



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Gupta
Sent: Friday, 25 May 2012 3:39 AM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Being a Tourist in Italy

Hi Dough, we were in Italy for a week - usual tourist route - Naples, Rome, 
Pisa,
Florence, Genoa, Turin,  Venice and back to Rome via San Marino. We rented a 
motor scooter
between Pisa and Florence for the fun of it.
Here are some things to remember:-
Italy is pretty small. For that matter entire Europe too compared to the US. So 
doing 250
Km per day is no big deal. You can do it in easily in (3 to 4) hours with a tea 
and
restroom break. So your driving limit between 1100 to 1300 hrs may not suffice.
Note: most tea/coffee stop places serve luke warm tea or coffee. So smile and 
say you want
it piping hot.
Italy has stricter drink driving laws, allowing 0.5 milligrams of alcohol per 
millilitre
of blood.
Seat belts front and rear are obligatory everywhere, unless you are using a 
motor scooter
where a helmet and a visible jacket is a must.
Be careful of merry young Italian drivers. Here is why: tiny cars in very 
narrow roads can
literally mean an inch away; they keep cutting you off; they will almost run 
over you;
they ignore stop signs and traffic lights, etc. Be on the lookout brother and  
drive safe.
To some RHD folks (Britain, Japan, India), LHD can be very confusing.
When approaching a roundabout give way to traffic already on the roundabout, on 
your left.
Speeding and other traffic offences are subject to extremely heavy on-the-spot 
fines.
Speed limits: on motorway 130 Km - Radar traps are frequent. Dual Carriageway 
110 Km.
Towns 50 Km. In the rains these limits drop.
Two warning triangle should be carried at all times.
The winding and slow country roads will drive you crazy eventually. Take breaks.
Don’t get confused between KMPH and MPH. I paid heavy fines.
Lock your car and don’t keep valuables, passports or cash in the car.
Thieves are everywhere in Italy. Beware brother.
As for travel and street photography Italy is wonderfully enchanting.
Please carry a 10-20 mm lens, or you will miss the monuments and churches in 
its splendid
beauty. Tripods not allowed inside most monuments, museums and churches. Very 
narrow
streets and spaces around most tourist hot spots.
Regards. Bipin - from a far away enchanting land.

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Re: Hanging by a thread

[Peter Jordan]

You have a point. It does look as if we have moved mountains to get us primed 
for success, despite the likes of the Daily Mail proclaiming doom at every 
opportunity.

Peter


On 24 May 2012, at 19:32, Bob W wrote:

> That's been one of the few good programmes on TV recently - I love it. 
> 
> Notwithstanding what your LOCOG friends say though, the thing that has
> impressed me (and not necessarily in a good way) has been the sheer
> unstoppable inexorability of the whole operation. 
> 
> The programme panders to our self-image as hopeless bumblers who somehow
> muddle through in the end, but the facts suggest that we are rather more
> Germanic than that cosy image would have us believe and it has all unrolled
> like some colossal mega-juggernaut, crushing all Hugh Grantishness beneath
> its mighty wheels as it 'delivers' a successful Olympics.
> 
> The only thing that can stop it now is the mightiest force in all of nature
> - the London traffic.
> 
> B
> 
>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
>> Peter Jordan
>> 
>> I'm sorry bit I can't take anything about "legacy" serious since
>> watching the excellent BBC comedy Twenty Twelve which has more than a
>> good dose of reality in it.
>> 
>> I know some people who work for LOCOG (the real life equivalent of the
>> Olympic Deliverance organisation in the series) and they say that ut us
>> so true to life that it's painful to watch. To me it is simply
>> hilarious.
>> 
>> If there is an opportunity to see, I'd thoroughly recommend.
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> 
>> On 13 May 2012, at 08:00, Bob W wrote:
>> 
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf
 Of John Sessoms
 
 From: "Bob W"
> Testing is under way on a cable car that has been built across the
> Thames from Greenwich to some God-forsaken hole that no-one would
 ever
> go to except that it's near the Olympic stadium. Here are some
>> snaps
> (photo snaps, not cable snaps...):
> 
> 
> 
> Bob
 
 So, what are they going to do with it after the Olympics?
 
>>> 
>>> No doubt it will form an important part of the legacy plans which are
>>> already in place. For instance, the 3-day Eventing and Equestrian
>>> Cross Country taking place in Greenwich will surely be the nucleus
>> for
>>> growth in horse-riding among all the inner-city kids whose council
>>> houses have stable yards attached; similarly (and perhaps more
>>> probably), the shooting events taking place at Woolwich Barracks will
>>> inspire future generations to move on from knives, chains and molotov
>>> cocktails, to more accurate weapons better suited to ride-by
>> shootings.
>>> 
>>> The cable-car will form an important stop on the tourism itinerary
>> for
>>> people who want a good overview of the Olympic Tumbleweed Farm.
>>> 
>>> B
>>> 
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