Re: OT- Another freaking Winter Storm Warning....
Don't St. Bernards carry a barrel of brandy around their necks for medicinal purposes. Definitely don't forget the St. Bernards. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: [...] A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. THE COMBINATION OF SNOW AND STRONG WINDS WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS. Send the St. Bernards. Lucky you! My wife gave me a toboggan for my 54th birthday and there isn't enough snow here in Nova Scotia to try it out! :-o In that case, send him the toboggan and keep the St. Bernard for yourself. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:38 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: When life gives you snow, go sit in it, have a beer and relax http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5643143 I say winter is to be enjoyed and embraced. Nice Canadian shot, Dave! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 9 February 2010 07:38, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 8/2/10, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: Ha! Yeah BTDT during the first one... But we made our flight to Oz! Batten down the hatches and stay warm and safe. Thanks frank! Go sit out on that freakin patio you built ;-) When life gives you snow, go sit in it, have a beer and relax http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5643143 LOL. Love it. I was doing exactly that (but actually on a beach :-) a couple of weeks ago. DS -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Christian On 2/8/2010 4:50 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Christianpterali...@aim.com wrote: This is crazy. From the national weather service (which has been freakily accurate with snow totals these past couple of months): ...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 7 PM EST WEDNESDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STERLING VIRGINIA HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WARNING FOR...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 7 PM EST WEDNESDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT. * PRECIPITATION TYPE...SNOW. * ACCUMULATIONS...10 TO 20 INCHES. A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. THE COMBINATION OF SNOW AND STRONG WINDS WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS. Send the St. Bernards. What? You've got over 24 hours to prepare. Where's the problem? It's just been one after another after another... And it doesn't snow here! :-) Does global warming make it snow more? I'm so confused... (kidding, dammit, people, I'm kidding!) If I understand how global warming has been explained to me, more snow may be a result. The way I understand it, global warming causes greater variability in weather patterns ... you get the same kinds of weather you always got, but going more towards the extremes. We got worse drought in the southeast for several years, now we're getting more bad winter weather - more frequent snows. Look for summers to get wetter with heavier rains for a while - then it'll cycle back to drought again. Global warming means there's more energy pumped into the weather cycles. It's like hitting a spinning top with a ball peen hammer. The top continues to spin, but it gets a whole lot wobblier. The mathematical model can tell you if you smack it hard enough it will fall over. Just can't tell you where it's going to land. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:36 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: The way I understand it, global warming causes greater variability in weather patterns ... you get the same kinds of weather you always got, but going more towards the extremes. We got worse drought in the southeast for several years, now we're getting more bad winter weather - more frequent snows. Look for summers to get wetter with heavier rains for a while - then it'll cycle back to drought again. Global warming means there's more energy pumped into the weather cycles. It's like hitting a spinning top with a ball peen hammer. The top continues to spin, but it gets a whole lot wobblier. The mathematical model can tell you if you smack it hard enough it will fall over. Just can't tell you where it's going to land. Not that I want to get into YAGWFW (yet another global warming flame war), it's all about global averages, isn't it? Local weather may be colder or more snowy than usual, but Virginia's snowstorms may be balanced out by the fact that Toronto's winters have been much milder of late than in the past (last year being an exception to that trend). We've had a pretty mild winter this year, with lots of rain and almost not snow. Thirty years ago it would have been much colder and snowier. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: frank theriault On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:36 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: The way I understand it, global warming causes greater variability in weather patterns ... you get the same kinds of weather you always got, but going more towards the extremes. We got worse drought in the southeast for several years, now we're getting more bad winter weather - more frequent snows. Look for summers to get wetter with heavier rains for a while - then it'll cycle back to drought again. Global warming means there's more energy pumped into the weather cycles. It's like hitting a spinning top with a ball peen hammer. The top continues to spin, but it gets a whole lot wobblier. The mathematical model can tell you if you smack it hard enough it will fall over. Just can't tell you where it's going to land. Not that I want to get into YAGWFW (yet another global warming flame war), it's all about global averages, isn't it? Local weather may be colder or more snowy than usual, but Virginia's snowstorms may be balanced out by the fact that Toronto's winters have been much milder of late than in the past (last year being an exception to that trend). We've had a pretty mild winter this year, with lots of rain and almost not snow. Thirty years ago it would have been much colder and snowier. And that is what I understand to be consistent with the mathematical models as they've been explained to me. I'm a little weak in math, so I have to get stuff like that translated into hillbilly English before I can understand it. Some years Toronto has mild winters, some years Toronto has bad winters. As the effects of global warming accumulate, the extremes of that variability will increase - the mild winters will be milder, the bad winters will be snowier. Over the long term there will be some bias towards greater numbers of mild winters, but the main effect the models predict is greater variability. And if the effects of milder winters spreads far enough north and south, and are sustained for long enough a lot of water that's currently locked up in glaciers could get let loose into the seas, which would affect sea levels, salinity, ocean currents ... a lot of complex systems that we don't quite yet understand. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2/9/2010 10:10 AM, frank theriault wrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:38 PM, David J Brookspentko...@gmail.com wrote: When life gives you snow, go sit in it, have a beer and relax http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5643143 I say winter is to be enjoyed and embraced. Nice Canadian shot, Dave! cheers, frank Spoken like a true Canadian, after all, isn't winter one of your major exports. -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's just an old wive's tail, and a damned disappointment to boot On 2/9/2010 9:26 AM, Tom C wrote: Don't St. Bernards carry a barrel of brandy around their necks for medicinal purposes. Definitely don't forget the St. Bernards. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Bob Wp...@web-options.com wrote: [...] A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. THE COMBINATION OF SNOW AND STRONG WINDS WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS. Send the St. Bernards. Lucky you! My wife gave me a toboggan for my 54th birthday and there isn't enough snow here in Nova Scotia to try it out!:-o In that case, send him the toboggan and keep the St. Bernard for yourself. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2/9/2010 10:36 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Christian On 2/8/2010 4:50 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Christianpterali...@aim.com wrote: This is crazy. From the national weather service (which has been freakily accurate with snow totals these past couple of months): ...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 7 PM EST WEDNESDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STERLING VIRGINIA HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WARNING FOR...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 7 PM EST WEDNESDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT. * PRECIPITATION TYPE...SNOW. * ACCUMULATIONS...10 TO 20 INCHES. A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. THE COMBINATION OF SNOW AND STRONG WINDS WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS. Send the St. Bernards. What? You've got over 24 hours to prepare. Where's the problem? It's just been one after another after another... And it doesn't snow here! :-) Does global warming make it snow more? I'm so confused... (kidding, dammit, people, I'm kidding!) If I understand how global warming has been explained to me, more snow may be a result. The way I understand it, global warming causes greater variability in weather patterns ... you get the same kinds of weather you always got, but going more towards the extremes. We got worse drought in the southeast for several years, now we're getting more bad winter weather - more frequent snows. Look for summers to get wetter with heavier rains for a while - then it'll cycle back to drought again. Global warming means there's more energy pumped into the weather cycles. It's like hitting a spinning top with a ball peen hammer. The top continues to spin, but it gets a whole lot wobblier. The mathematical model can tell you if you smack it hard enough it will fall over. Just can't tell you where it's going to land. As I see it this is about the kind of weather we've had for about 100 years. The climate has warmed the climate has cooled. We've gone into a cooling trend. Hopefully the world will come out of it before the Ice begins to spread. Ah yes I remeber those Halcyon days of the 1970's when Time Newsweek and the NYT ran headlines about the coming ice age. (Though the prescription on how to deal with our imminent doom was somehow the same). -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 10:47:21AM -0500, frank theriault scripsit: Not that I want to get into YAGWFW (yet another global warming flame war), it's all about global averages, isn't it? Local weather may be colder or more snowy than usual, but Virginia's snowstorms may be balanced out by the fact that Toronto's winters have been much milder of late than in the past (last year being an exception to that trend). Well, there's some of that, but there's also warmer = more evaporation, and all that water has to eventually fall out of the sky, which it is going to do that at unhelpful rates and in surprising places some of the time. We've had a pretty mild winter this year, with lots of rain and almost not snow. Thirty years ago it would have been much colder and snowier. And there wouldn't have been the cool, wet spring that lasted until the end of July, either. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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This is crazy. From the national weather service (which has been freakily accurate with snow totals these past couple of months): ...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 7 PM EST WEDNESDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STERLING VIRGINIA HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WARNING FOR...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 7 PM EST WEDNESDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT. * PRECIPITATION TYPE...SNOW. * ACCUMULATIONS...10 TO 20 INCHES. A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. THE COMBINATION OF SNOW AND STRONG WINDS WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS. Send the St. Bernards. -- - Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Christian pterali...@aim.com wrote: This is crazy. From the national weather service (which has been freakily accurate with snow totals these past couple of months): ...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 7 PM EST WEDNESDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STERLING VIRGINIA HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WARNING FOR...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 7 PM EST WEDNESDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT. * PRECIPITATION TYPE...SNOW. * ACCUMULATIONS...10 TO 20 INCHES. A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. THE COMBINATION OF SNOW AND STRONG WINDS WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS. Send the St. Bernards. What? You've got over 24 hours to prepare. Where's the problem? Get lots of Kraft Dinner (I believe you people call it Kraft Mac Cheese), chips and beer. Oh yeah, and coffee, make sure you have coffee. Make sure you have a way to stay warm if the power goes out (firewood, portable heaters and generators to power them, etc.). It'll all be good. Just don't be a hero and try driving in it. Batten down the hatches and stay warm and safe. cheers, frank ps: just joking with those first couple of sentences. -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2010-02-08 16:50, frank theriault wrote: of Kraft Dinner (I believe you people call it Kraft Mac Cheese), chips and beer. Oh yeah, and coffee, make sure you have coffee. Make sure you have a way to stay warm if the power goes out (firewood, portable heaters and generators to power them, etc.). Screw all that, get smokes and beer! -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: Screw all that, get smokes and beer! I don't smoke anymore, so that didn't occur to me. But yes, if you smoke, absolutely. It's all about being comfortable... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2/8/2010 4:50 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Christianpterali...@aim.com wrote: This is crazy. From the national weather service (which has been freakily accurate with snow totals these past couple of months): ...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 7 PM EST WEDNESDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STERLING VIRGINIA HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WARNING FOR...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 7 PM EST WEDNESDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT. * PRECIPITATION TYPE...SNOW. * ACCUMULATIONS...10 TO 20 INCHES. A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. THE COMBINATION OF SNOW AND STRONG WINDS WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS. Send the St. Bernards. What? You've got over 24 hours to prepare. Where's the problem? It's just been one after another after another... And it doesn't snow here! :-) Does global warming make it snow more? I'm so confused... (kidding, dammit, people, I'm kidding!) Just don't be a hero and try driving in it. Ha! Yeah BTDT during the first one... But we made our flight to Oz! Batten down the hatches and stay warm and safe. Thanks frank! -- - Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com http://birdofthemoment.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 8/2/10, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: Ha! Yeah BTDT during the first one... But we made our flight to Oz! Batten down the hatches and stay warm and safe. Thanks frank! Go sit out on that freakin patio you built ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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At 4:41 PM -0500 2/8/10, Christian wrote: This is crazy. From the national weather service (which has been freakily accurate with snow totals these past couple of months): ...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 7 PM EST WEDNESDAY... THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STERLING VIRGINIA HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WARNING FOR...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 7 PM EST WEDNESDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT. * PRECIPITATION TYPE...SNOW. * ACCUMULATIONS...10 TO 20 INCHES. A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. THE COMBINATION OF SNOW AND STRONG WINDS WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS. Send the St. Bernards. Lucky you! My wife gave me a toboggan for my 54th birthday and there isn't enough snow here in Nova Scotia to try it out! :-o -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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[...] A WINTER STORM WARNING MEANS SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF SNOW ARE EXPECTED OR OCCURRING. THE COMBINATION OF SNOW AND STRONG WINDS WILL MAKE TRAVEL VERY HAZARDOUS. Send the St. Bernards. Lucky you! My wife gave me a toboggan for my 54th birthday and there isn't enough snow here in Nova Scotia to try it out! :-o In that case, send him the toboggan and keep the St. Bernard for yourself. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 8/2/10, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: Ha! Yeah BTDT during the first one... But we made our flight to Oz! Batten down the hatches and stay warm and safe. Thanks frank! Go sit out on that freakin patio you built ;-) When life gives you snow, go sit in it, have a beer and relax http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5643143 Dave -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.