Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah
Oh hell, I'm irreligious, I /know/ there's a God, I just can't define God well enough to believe in religion. On 9/11/2010 7:37 AM, frank theriault wrote: On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 5:24 AM, mike wilson wrote: frank theriault wrote: It has nothing to do with political correctness and everything to do with being sensitive and respectful towards others. It appears to me that there is a number of listers who find _all_ forms of organised religion contrary to their beliefs to the point of offensiveness. So In fact, I'm irreligious. Atheistic agnostic, to be exact. I'm certain that there's no God or gods, but since I can't prove a negative, I'm agnostic. I do find many religions to be offensive (~not~ Judaism, BTW), and that includes many so-called mainstream ones. However I respect those individuals whose beliefs are different from mine even if I don't respect the beliefs. I also understand the importance of culture and rites (including holidays). No matter how I feel about religion in general, I try to be respectful and sensitive toward all ~people~, despite their world-view. Given the nature of this list, represented by cultures and religions from around the world, I'd hope that most list-members share my tolerance. cheers, frank -- "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy." -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah
On 9/11/2010 12:24 PM, mike wilson wrote: It appears to me that there is a number of listers who find _all_ forms of organised religion contrary to their beliefs to the point of offensiveness. So It is all matter of expression and timing, Mike. It seems to me that even the most patient person can be offended with proper "technique". You can always continue with me off-list, is you want. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 5:24 AM, mike wilson wrote: > frank theriault wrote: >> It has nothing to do with political correctness and everything to do >> with being sensitive and respectful towards others. > > It appears to me that there is a number of listers who find _all_ forms of > organised religion contrary to their beliefs to the point of offensiveness. > So In fact, I'm irreligious. Atheistic agnostic, to be exact. I'm certain that there's no God or gods, but since I can't prove a negative, I'm agnostic. I do find many religions to be offensive (~not~ Judaism, BTW), and that includes many so-called mainstream ones. However I respect those individuals whose beliefs are different from mine even if I don't respect the beliefs. I also understand the importance of culture and rites (including holidays). No matter how I feel about religion in general, I try to be respectful and sensitive toward all ~people~, despite their world-view. Given the nature of this list, represented by cultures and religions from around the world, I'd hope that most list-members share my tolerance. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah
frank theriault wrote: On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 7:57 AM, David Savage wrote: * Dave waves his white PC flag* It has nothing to do with political correctness and everything to do with being sensitive and respectful towards others. It appears to me that there is a number of listers who find _all_ forms of organised religion contrary to their beliefs to the point of offensiveness. So My last words on this subject. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah
On 9/10/2010 2:43 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Sorry, no offense intended. Sure. Let it be past us. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah
On Sep 10, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Sep 10, 2010, at 4:48 AM, eckinator wrote: > >> 2010/9/10 Boris Liberman : > > Shana Tova. Kama Sutra, too. >>> >>> Mark, to me your comment appears rather inappropriate... >> >> Please excuse my ignorance but am I wrong in taking Rosh Hashanah to >> mean New Year? Does anything that I miss make it something not to joke >> about? > > Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur are the Jewish High Holidays. That probably should have been written "High Holy Days", as in the vernacular the above implies more "high" and less "holy", which would be Purim. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah
On Sep 10, 2010, at 4:48 AM, eckinator wrote: > 2010/9/10 Boris Liberman : Shana Tova. >>> >>> Kama Sutra, too. >> >> Mark, to me your comment appears rather inappropriate... > > Please excuse my ignorance but am I wrong in taking Rosh Hashanah to > mean New Year? Does anything that I miss make it something not to joke > about? Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur are the Jewish High Holidays. Since they have not been commercialized like Christmas and Easter, they have the level of religious significance of those holidays without any of the distractions. It is a time to reflect on the events of the past year, atone for your sins, both with god and your fellow man, and for many jews, the only time that they go to temple. I am quite certain that Mark didn't mean offense by his play on words, unfortunately he succeeded. > > Cheers > Ecke > > - > Cameras don’t shoot people. > Photographers shoot people. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah
On 9/10/2010 7:53 AM, frank theriault wrote: On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 7:30 AM, David Savage wrote: Kama Chameleon is more appropriate. I'm not Jewish, but I know Rosh Hashnnah is a very solemn holiday for Jews. Just because it's "Jewish New Year" does ~not~ mean that it's like the gentile secular New Year that has little to do with anything except sleeping off a hangover then watching football. I sent my initial greeting assuming that everyone (Jewish and gentile) appreciates the importance of these days to Jews, and I'm saddened that two silly comments have been made. I'd like to think that no offense was meant, but hopefully from here on proper respect will be shown regarding this meaningful time of year to several list members. -frank Frank, this thread got entirely out of hand a while ago. I think you're chasing a snipe here. -- "His lack of education is more than compensated for by his keenly developed moral bankruptcy." -Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 7:57 AM, David Savage wrote: > > * Dave waves his white PC flag* It has nothing to do with political correctness and everything to do with being sensitive and respectful towards others. My last words on this subject. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah
On 10 September 2010 19:53, frank theriault wrote: > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 7:30 AM, David Savage wrote: > > >> Kama Chameleon is more appropriate. > > I'm not Jewish, but I know Rosh Hashnnah is a very solemn holiday for > Jews. Just because it's "Jewish New Year" does ~not~ mean that it's > like the gentile secular New Year that has little to do with anything > except sleeping off a hangover then watching football. > > I sent my initial greeting assuming that everyone (Jewish and gentile) > appreciates the importance of these days to Jews, and I'm saddened > that two silly comments have been made. I'd like to think that no > offense was meant, but hopefully from here on proper respect will be > shown regarding this meaningful time of year to several list members. * Dave waves his white PC flag* -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 7:30 AM, David Savage wrote: > Kama Chameleon is more appropriate. I'm not Jewish, but I know Rosh Hashnnah is a very solemn holiday for Jews. Just because it's "Jewish New Year" does ~not~ mean that it's like the gentile secular New Year that has little to do with anything except sleeping off a hangover then watching football. I sent my initial greeting assuming that everyone (Jewish and gentile) appreciates the importance of these days to Jews, and I'm saddened that two silly comments have been made. I'd like to think that no offense was meant, but hopefully from here on proper respect will be shown regarding this meaningful time of year to several list members. -frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah
2010/9/10 Boris Liberman : >>> >>> Shana Tova. >> >> Kama Sutra, too. > > Mark, to me your comment appears rather inappropriate... Please excuse my ignorance but am I wrong in taking Rosh Hashanah to mean New Year? Does anything that I miss make it something not to joke about? Cheers Ecke - Cameras don’t shoot people. Photographers shoot people. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah
Boris Liberman wrote: >On 9/9/2010 11:27 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: >> Larry Colen wrote: >> >>> On Sep 8, 2010, at 6:43 PM, frank theriault wrote: >>> To everyone who celebrates it, and even to those who don't, here's wishing you Shana Tova. May your year be filled with peace, love and joy. >>> >>> Shana Tova. >> >> Kama Sutra, too. > >Mark, to me your comment appears rather inappropriate... Sorry, no offense intended. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah
On 10 September 2010 19:17, Boris Liberman wrote: > On 9/9/2010 11:27 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: >> >> Larry Colen wrote: >> >>> On Sep 8, 2010, at 6:43 PM, frank theriault wrote: >>> To everyone who celebrates it, and even to those who don't, here's wishing you Shana Tova. May your year be filled with peace, love and joy. >>> >>> Shana Tova. >> >> Kama Sutra, too. > > Mark, to me your comment appears rather inappropriate... I agree. Kama Chameleon is more appropriate. DS -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah
On 9/9/2010 11:27 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Larry Colen wrote: On Sep 8, 2010, at 6:43 PM, frank theriault wrote: To everyone who celebrates it, and even to those who don't, here's wishing you Shana Tova. May your year be filled with peace, love and joy. Shana Tova. Kama Sutra, too. Mark, to me your comment appears rather inappropriate... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah
ROTFL! --Original Message-- From: Mark Roberts Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List ReplyTo: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah Sent: Sep 9, 2010 4:27 PM Larry Colen wrote: >On Sep 8, 2010, at 6:43 PM, frank theriault wrote: > >> To everyone who celebrates it, and even to those who don't, here's >> wishing you Shana Tova. May your year be filled with peace, love and >> joy. > >Shana Tova. Kama Sutra, too. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah
Larry Colen wrote: >On Sep 8, 2010, at 6:43 PM, frank theriault wrote: > >> To everyone who celebrates it, and even to those who don't, here's >> wishing you Shana Tova. May your year be filled with peace, love and >> joy. > >Shana Tova. Kama Sutra, too. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah
On Sep 8, 2010, at 6:43 PM, frank theriault wrote: > To everyone who celebrates it, and even to those who don't, here's > wishing you Shana Tova. May your year be filled with peace, love and > joy. Shana Tova. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah
On 9/9/2010 6:19 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Thank You Frank, and may God inscribe you for blessings in the Book of Life. Regards, Bob S. You couldn't say it any better, Bob! I wholeheartedly agree and join you in wishing everyone a peaceful new year. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah
Thank You Frank, and may God inscribe you for blessings in the Book of Life. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 8:43 PM, frank theriault wrote: > To everyone who celebrates it, and even to those who don't, here's > wishing you Shana Tova. May your year be filled with peace, love and > joy. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - Happy Rosh Hashanah
To everyone who celebrates it, and even to those who don't, here's wishing you Shana Tova. May your year be filled with peace, love and joy. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
