Re: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens
John Francis wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 11:41:08AM -0500, John Francis wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 10:08:46AM +, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 17/12/16, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: Going to full frame, I no longer have a lens for the k1 to fill the niche of my 18-250, being reasonably long, if not particularly fast, but will still fit in my camera bag and not weigh a ton. The da 55-300, despite nominally being an aps lens seems to do ok on ff. Is there anything even better, preferably not too expensive? Just being a fly in your ointment for a minute - why would you consider a lens of such sweeping focal length? Surely with the K1 having such a good sensor, using what can only ever be an inferior lens (with such a large zoom range) is counter-productive? That's not always the case - back when I was regularly shooting motorsports (on film ...) I was used to seeing a lot of the full-time photographers using the Canon L 35-350, which was an amazingly good lens. But that was the exception (and by now I suspect modern digital sensors would point out flaws in that lens that we didn't see when limited by film resolution). It turns out that I was gifted a 55-300 for the holidays. One thing that I didn't notice last weekend is that it does vignette between about 100 and 200mm. FWIW - back in those film days I picked up an FA 80-320 as my long-reach lightweight carry-around (replacing a 100-300 which I never really liked). It still seems to be fairly well thought of. Furthermore, it would be available on the same terms as my heavyweight alternative (the 80-200/2.8); I just came across the 80-320, which I hadn't seen for several years, when we were going through a pile of boxes to find out just what was in them :-) I'd certainly be willing to take it out for some exercise sometime. :-) -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens
On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 11:41:08AM -0500, John Francis wrote: > On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 10:08:46AM +, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 17/12/16, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: > > > > >Going to full frame, I no longer have a lens for the k1 to fill the > > >niche of my 18-250, being reasonably long, if not particularly fast, but > > >will still fit in my camera bag and not weigh a ton. > > >The da 55-300, despite nominally being an aps lens seems to do ok on ff. > > >Is there anything even better, preferably not too expensive? > > > > Just being a fly in your ointment for a minute - why would you consider > > a lens of such sweeping focal length? Surely with the K1 having such a > > good sensor, using what can only ever be an inferior lens (with such a > > large zoom range) is counter-productive? > > That's not always the case - back when I was regularly shooting motorsports > (on film ...) I was used to seeing a lot of the full-time photographers > using the Canon L 35-350, which was an amazingly good lens. But that was > the exception (and by now I suspect modern digital sensors would point out > flaws in that lens that we didn't see when limited by film resolution). FWIW - back in those film days I picked up an FA 80-320 as my long-reach lightweight carry-around (replacing a 100-300 which I never really liked). It still seems to be fairly well thought of. Furthermore, it would be available on the same terms as my heavyweight alternative (the 80-200/2.8); I just came across the 80-320, which I hadn't seen for several years, when we were going through a pile of boxes to find out just what was in them :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens
It's one of my most used lenses, I've had it for 27 years with no issue other than the focusing barrel to which the filters are attached rotates on focusing, so I need to remember to set the polarizing filter after I focus -Original Message- >From: Chris Mitchell <chris.mitch...@which.net> >Subject: Re: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens > >If you can live with manual focus, there's the good old 70-210 F4. >I've seen them going for 30-50 GBP. So good value, reasonably fast and >quite compact. > >Chris > >On 18 December 2016 at 20:14, Larry Colen <l...@red4est.com> wrote: >> >> >> Steve Cottrell wrote: >>> >>> On 17/12/16, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: >>> >>>> Going to full frame, I no longer have a lens for the k1 to fill the >>>> niche of my 18-250, being reasonably long, if not particularly fast, but >>>> will still fit in my camera bag and not weigh a ton. >>>> The da 55-300, despite nominally being an aps lens seems to do ok on ff. >>>> Is there anything even better, preferably not too expensive? >>> >>> >>> Just being a fly in your ointment for a minute - why would you consider >>> a lens of such sweeping focal length? Surely with the K1 having such a >>> good sensor, using what can only ever be an inferior lens (with such a >>> large zoom range) is counter-productive? >> >> >> OK, I'm not looking for a full frame equivalent of the 18-250, in a sense I >> already have one, the sigma 50-500. For what it is, and especially what I >> paid for it, it's an awesome lens, but it falls in the "way too big" >> category. It's reasonably sharp, but the bokeh is rather unpleasant, and >> it's not WR. There are reasons I really want a 150-450 even if I can't >> afford one. >> >> I still do have my 18-250, and when I go for a bike ride, I tend to put that >> on the K-3II and that combination does a great job for an all in one camera, >> except for the WR bit, and I don't tend to decide the rainy days are perfect >> for a bike ride anyways. >> >> The 55-300 seems to pretty nicely fit the bill. It's a reasonable size, >> would be relatively easy to carry around, and it seems to be pretty sharp, >> probably sharper than cropping my 28-105 down by a factor of three (which >> would turn the K-1 into about a 4 MPix camera). I'll post pictures soon, it >> seemed to do a decent job. >> >> There is also the 60-250, but that gives up in both size and cost, I wonder >> how it compares with the 70-210/2.8 in those categories. >> >> So, I'm looking to extend my reach beyond 75 or 100 mm to the 250 or 300 mm >> range. Plan A at the moment seems to be a used 55-300, but before I start >> looking for one of those, I want to make sure that there isn't something >> that I'd really rather have. >> >> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens
If you can live with manual focus, there's the good old 70-210 F4. I've seen them going for 30-50 GBP. So good value, reasonably fast and quite compact. Chris On 18 December 2016 at 20:14, Larry Colenwrote: > > > Steve Cottrell wrote: >> >> On 17/12/16, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: >> >>> Going to full frame, I no longer have a lens for the k1 to fill the >>> niche of my 18-250, being reasonably long, if not particularly fast, but >>> will still fit in my camera bag and not weigh a ton. >>> The da 55-300, despite nominally being an aps lens seems to do ok on ff. >>> Is there anything even better, preferably not too expensive? >> >> >> Just being a fly in your ointment for a minute - why would you consider >> a lens of such sweeping focal length? Surely with the K1 having such a >> good sensor, using what can only ever be an inferior lens (with such a >> large zoom range) is counter-productive? > > > OK, I'm not looking for a full frame equivalent of the 18-250, in a sense I > already have one, the sigma 50-500. For what it is, and especially what I > paid for it, it's an awesome lens, but it falls in the "way too big" > category. It's reasonably sharp, but the bokeh is rather unpleasant, and > it's not WR. There are reasons I really want a 150-450 even if I can't > afford one. > > I still do have my 18-250, and when I go for a bike ride, I tend to put that > on the K-3II and that combination does a great job for an all in one camera, > except for the WR bit, and I don't tend to decide the rainy days are perfect > for a bike ride anyways. > > The 55-300 seems to pretty nicely fit the bill. It's a reasonable size, > would be relatively easy to carry around, and it seems to be pretty sharp, > probably sharper than cropping my 28-105 down by a factor of three (which > would turn the K-1 into about a 4 MPix camera). I'll post pictures soon, it > seemed to do a decent job. > > There is also the 60-250, but that gives up in both size and cost, I wonder > how it compares with the 70-210/2.8 in those categories. > > So, I'm looking to extend my reach beyond 75 or 100 mm to the 250 or 300 mm > range. Plan A at the moment seems to be a used 55-300, but before I start > looking for one of those, I want to make sure that there isn't something > that I'd really rather have. > > >> >> > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens
I don't know. The 70/200 is obviously good and a stop faster than the 60-250, but I already have the latter. I may sell it and the 50-135 some day, but I'm not in a hurry. Paul via phone > On Dec 18, 2016, at 11:25 PM, Larry Colenwrot > 59-145 > > Paul Stenquist wrote: >> The 60-260 vignettes a bit on full frame, but It's not enough to trouble me. >> It's been my go to lens for years now on aps-c and full frame. It's >> excellent. The 150-450 is astounding. But it's much bigger and heavier. If >> you're serious about shooting critters, go for the 150-450 and a good >> tripod. But it's not a walk around lens. The 60-250/4 is > > How does the 60-250 compare with the 70-200? > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens
Alan C wrote: "Interesting. I've found that Nicole's 55-300 is quite pleasantly sharp." I agree but at f8 the 100-300 is just as sharp. Unfortunately, most of the time that I'd be using it would likely be doing things like photographing musicians, in which case I wouldn't want anything less than about 5.6, f/8 would really start leaning heavily on the sensor. When I would be able to get away with f/8 would be outdoors, and half the year it gets really damp around here outdoors, in which case I want the WR. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens
Paul Stenquist wrote: The 60-260 vignettes a bit on full frame, but It's not enough to trouble me. It's been my go to lens for years now on aps-c and full frame. It's excellent. The 150-450 is astounding. But it's much bigger and heavier. If you're serious about shooting critters, go for the 150-450 and a good tripod. But it's not a walk around lens. The 60-250/4 is How does the 60-250 compare with the 70-200? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens
"Interesting. I've found that Nicole's 55-300 is quite pleasantly sharp." I agree but at f8 the 100-300 is just as sharp. "There also seem to be three versions of that lens, the DA, the DA-L and the WR." Two versions of the HD WR. Alan C -Original Message- From: Larry Colen Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 6:03 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens Alan C wrote: Having read this thread with interest, I would say the 60-250 is your best bet but it is not cheap. You could add a 1.4x too! Paul had great success with this combination. I have an FA 100-300 which I used before I acquired an HD 55-300. Despite the glowing reviews for the 55-300, I have found it no better than the under-rated 100-300 which can be had for a song. Interesting. I've found that Nicole's 55-300 is quite pleasantly sharp. There also seem to be three versions of that lens, the DA, the DA-L and the WR. It has a huge advantage over the 60-250 in that it can easily be carried in my camera bag without displacing multiple other lenses too. Also the fact that I can find them for under $300 used versus $800-900 for the 60-250. Since I do have use of the 80-200/2.8 I don't think that the 60-250 is enough smaller than it to make a huge difference. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens
The 60-260 vignettes a bit on full frame, but It's not enough to trouble me. It's been my go to lens for years now on aps-c and full frame. It's excellent. The 150-450 is astounding. But it's much bigger and heavier. If you're serious about shooting critters, go for the 150-450 and a good tripod. But it's not a walk around lens. The 60-250/4 is Paul via phone > On Dec 18, 2016, at 10:23 PM, Alan Cwrote: > > Having read this thread with interest, I would say the 60-250 is your best > bet but it is not cheap. You could add a 1.4x too! Paul had great success > with this combination. I have an FA 100-300 which I used before I acquired an > HD 55-300. Despite the glowing reviews for the 55-300, I have found it no > better than the under-rated 100-300 which can be had for a song. > > Alan C > > -Original Message- From: Larry Colen > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 4:33 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens > > Going to full frame, I no longer have a lens for the k1 to fill the niche of > my 18-250, being reasonably long, if not particularly fast, but will still > fit in my camera bag and not weigh a ton. > The da 55-300, despite nominally being an aps lens seems to do ok on ff. Is > there anything even better, preferably not too expensive? > -- > Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse any swypos. > http://red4est.com/lrc > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens
Alan C wrote: Having read this thread with interest, I would say the 60-250 is your best bet but it is not cheap. You could add a 1.4x too! Paul had great success with this combination. I have an FA 100-300 which I used before I acquired an HD 55-300. Despite the glowing reviews for the 55-300, I have found it no better than the under-rated 100-300 which can be had for a song. Interesting. I've found that Nicole's 55-300 is quite pleasantly sharp. There also seem to be three versions of that lens, the DA, the DA-L and the WR. It has a huge advantage over the 60-250 in that it can easily be carried in my camera bag without displacing multiple other lenses too. Also the fact that I can find them for under $300 used versus $800-900 for the 60-250. Since I do have use of the 80-200/2.8 I don't think that the 60-250 is enough smaller than it to make a huge difference. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens
Read this (right down to the end). https://www.pentaxuser.com/forum/topic/da--60-250-modification-for-full-frame-56581 Alan C -Original Message- From: Bill Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 5:50 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens On 12/18/2016 9:23 PM, Alan C wrote: Having read this thread with interest, I would say the 60-250 is your best bet but it is not cheap. You could add a 1.4x too! Paul had great success with this combination. I have an FA 100-300 which I used before I acquired an HD 55-300. Despite the glowing reviews for the 55-300, I have found it no better than the under-rated 100-300 which can be had for a song. The 60-250 doesn't cover the full frame. It is possible it is baffled down to APS-C, in which case there would be a rear hood that might be removable. I sold mine, and I really don't recall what the back end looked like. Alan C -Original Message- From: Larry Colen Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 4:33 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens Going to full frame, I no longer have a lens for the k1 to fill the niche of my 18-250, being reasonably long, if not particularly fast, but will still fit in my camera bag and not weigh a ton. The da 55-300, despite nominally being an aps lens seems to do ok on ff. Is there anything even better, preferably not too expensive? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens
On 12/18/2016 9:42 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: The 60-250. You can also modify it to cover FF perfectly. Seems like a no brainer to me. The 60-250 crushes the 55-300. Well, that answers my previous post on the subject. A word to the wise about that lens. It is an SDM, my copy failed twice. I don't know if it was one of the ones with a bad reputation or not. Optically, it is a superb lens, though it is big for an f/4 zoom. On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 10:23 PM, Alan Cwrote: Having read this thread with interest, I would say the 60-250 is your best bet but it is not cheap. You could add a 1.4x too! Paul had great success with this combination. I have an FA 100-300 which I used before I acquired an HD 55-300. Despite the glowing reviews for the 55-300, I have found it no better than the under-rated 100-300 which can be had for a song. Alan C -Original Message- From: Larry Colen Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 4:33 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens Going to full frame, I no longer have a lens for the k1 to fill the niche of my 18-250, being reasonably long, if not particularly fast, but will still fit in my camera bag and not weigh a ton. The da 55-300, despite nominally being an aps lens seems to do ok on ff. Is there anything even better, preferably not too expensive? -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse any swypos. http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens
On 12/18/2016 9:23 PM, Alan C wrote: Having read this thread with interest, I would say the 60-250 is your best bet but it is not cheap. You could add a 1.4x too! Paul had great success with this combination. I have an FA 100-300 which I used before I acquired an HD 55-300. Despite the glowing reviews for the 55-300, I have found it no better than the under-rated 100-300 which can be had for a song. The 60-250 doesn't cover the full frame. It is possible it is baffled down to APS-C, in which case there would be a rear hood that might be removable. I sold mine, and I really don't recall what the back end looked like. Alan C -Original Message- From: Larry Colen Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 4:33 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens Going to full frame, I no longer have a lens for the k1 to fill the niche of my 18-250, being reasonably long, if not particularly fast, but will still fit in my camera bag and not weigh a ton. The da 55-300, despite nominally being an aps lens seems to do ok on ff. Is there anything even better, preferably not too expensive? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens
The 60-250. You can also modify it to cover FF perfectly. Seems like a no brainer to me. The 60-250 crushes the 55-300. On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 10:23 PM, Alan Cwrote: > Having read this thread with interest, I would say the 60-250 is your best > bet but it is not cheap. You could add a 1.4x too! Paul had great success > with this combination. I have an FA 100-300 which I used before I acquired > an HD 55-300. Despite the glowing reviews for the 55-300, I have found it no > better than the under-rated 100-300 which can be had for a song. > > Alan C > > -Original Message- From: Larry Colen > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 4:33 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens > > > Going to full frame, I no longer have a lens for the k1 to fill the niche of > my 18-250, being reasonably long, if not particularly fast, but will still > fit in my camera bag and not weigh a ton. > The da 55-300, despite nominally being an aps lens seems to do ok on ff. Is > there anything even better, preferably not too expensive? > -- > Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse any swypos. > http://red4est.com/lrc > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens
Having read this thread with interest, I would say the 60-250 is your best bet but it is not cheap. You could add a 1.4x too! Paul had great success with this combination. I have an FA 100-300 which I used before I acquired an HD 55-300. Despite the glowing reviews for the 55-300, I have found it no better than the under-rated 100-300 which can be had for a song. Alan C -Original Message- From: Larry Colen Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 4:33 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens Going to full frame, I no longer have a lens for the k1 to fill the niche of my 18-250, being reasonably long, if not particularly fast, but will still fit in my camera bag and not weigh a ton. The da 55-300, despite nominally being an aps lens seems to do ok on ff. Is there anything even better, preferably not too expensive? -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse any swypos. http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens
Steve Cottrell wrote: On 17/12/16, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: Going to full frame, I no longer have a lens for the k1 to fill the niche of my 18-250, being reasonably long, if not particularly fast, but will still fit in my camera bag and not weigh a ton. The da 55-300, despite nominally being an aps lens seems to do ok on ff. Is there anything even better, preferably not too expensive? Just being a fly in your ointment for a minute - why would you consider a lens of such sweeping focal length? Surely with the K1 having such a good sensor, using what can only ever be an inferior lens (with such a large zoom range) is counter-productive? OK, I'm not looking for a full frame equivalent of the 18-250, in a sense I already have one, the sigma 50-500. For what it is, and especially what I paid for it, it's an awesome lens, but it falls in the "way too big" category. It's reasonably sharp, but the bokeh is rather unpleasant, and it's not WR. There are reasons I really want a 150-450 even if I can't afford one. I still do have my 18-250, and when I go for a bike ride, I tend to put that on the K-3II and that combination does a great job for an all in one camera, except for the WR bit, and I don't tend to decide the rainy days are perfect for a bike ride anyways. The 55-300 seems to pretty nicely fit the bill. It's a reasonable size, would be relatively easy to carry around, and it seems to be pretty sharp, probably sharper than cropping my 28-105 down by a factor of three (which would turn the K-1 into about a 4 MPix camera). I'll post pictures soon, it seemed to do a decent job. There is also the 60-250, but that gives up in both size and cost, I wonder how it compares with the 70-210/2.8 in those categories. So, I'm looking to extend my reach beyond 75 or 100 mm to the 250 or 300 mm range. Plan A at the moment seems to be a used 55-300, but before I start looking for one of those, I want to make sure that there isn't something that I'd really rather have. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens
On 12/17/2016 9:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Is there anything even better, preferably not too expensive? No. You can have better or you can have not too expensive, but not both. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens
So you're effectively looking for something like 28mm to something between 300mm and 400mm.That's not too big... Well unless someone has repealed the laws of physics that's not going to happen.I don't think that can be made compact or light weight. There is the FAJ 75-300 f4.5~5.6, but AFAIK nobody actually liked it, and three different Pentax auto focus 100-300mm lenses, but I've never heard any one say anything good about them optically, or equivalent lenses from other systems and manufactures for that matter. So if can find one they're probably going to be cheap. There is a Sigma 70-300, that looks like the 70-210 that I was gifted with about a year ago. If it's anything like the 70-210mm it's not horrible, not great either, it will be very light, and extremely inexpensive. KEH.com had one for about $35-40 in like new condition not that long ago. As to a longer max focal length, I've never heard of one. You might start looking for a 400mm Catadioptric, Kenko currently makes one. You won't find anything smaller or much lighter in that focal length, but of course manual focus. On 12/17/2016 9:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Going to full frame, I no longer have a lens for the k1 to fill the niche of my 18-250, being reasonably long, if not particularly fast, but will still fit in my camera bag and not weigh a ton. The da 55-300, despite nominally being an aps lens seems to do ok on ff. Is there anything even better, preferably not too expensive? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens
On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 10:08:46AM +, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 17/12/16, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >Going to full frame, I no longer have a lens for the k1 to fill the > >niche of my 18-250, being reasonably long, if not particularly fast, but > >will still fit in my camera bag and not weigh a ton. > >The da 55-300, despite nominally being an aps lens seems to do ok on ff. > >Is there anything even better, preferably not too expensive? > > Just being a fly in your ointment for a minute - why would you consider > a lens of such sweeping focal length? Surely with the K1 having such a > good sensor, using what can only ever be an inferior lens (with such a > large zoom range) is counter-productive? That's not always the case - back when I was regularly shooting motorsports (on film ...) I was used to seeing a lot of the full-time photographers using the Canon L 35-350, which was an amazingly good lens. But that was the exception (and by now I suspect modern digital sensors would point out flaws in that lens that we didn't see when limited by film resolution). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for an ready to carry long ff lens
On 17/12/16, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: >Going to full frame, I no longer have a lens for the k1 to fill the >niche of my 18-250, being reasonably long, if not particularly fast, but >will still fit in my camera bag and not weigh a ton. >The da 55-300, despite nominally being an aps lens seems to do ok on ff. >Is there anything even better, preferably not too expensive? Just being a fly in your ointment for a minute - why would you consider a lens of such sweeping focal length? Surely with the K1 having such a good sensor, using what can only ever be an inferior lens (with such a large zoom range) is counter-productive? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.