Re: Reedbed
Well put. -- Bruce Monday, April 9, 2007, 4:36:40 AM, you wrote: BW> I think you're right that they do look muddy but I think your BW> treatment goes a little too far in the opposite direction. BW> Looking at 4084944, getting a golden glow on the reeds is on BW> the right track but seems overdone here. I think you also need to BW> try to retain darkness in the background foliage (maybe use a BW> layer mask to partially protect the background foliage from the BW> adjustments carried out on the reeds). BW> The images are well worth a bit of work. BW> Cheers BW> Brian BW> ++ BW> Brian Walters BW> Western Sydney Australia BW> Quoting Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Hi, >> >> I don't usually muck about much with photos, just presenting them >> more >> or less as they come straight from the camera. However, here are a >> couple of photos from a reedbed close to my house: >> >> http://www.web-options.com/Reedbed/ >> >> I have altered the curves on both of these because the originals >> are >> very muddy: >> http://www.web-options.com/_4084933.jpg >> http://www.web-options.com/_4084944.jpg >> >> I'd be interested to hear peoples' opinions about these >> alterations. >> Do they look natural? I've done them by eye, but I don't trust my >> eyes >> in this sort of thing, being colourblind. Do they look overdone? >> >> The more I look at them, the more I think the edited ones are >> overdone >> and overdramatic. The unedited ones have a calm about them, >> despite >> the muddiness, which I quite like, but I feel as though they could >> do >> with something a bit more. >> >> Opinions, please? >> >> Thanks, >> Bob >> >> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Reedbed
No, no, Bob.! They need the soft glow. Especially 4084944. Sorry, the compromise is 'dead'. Jack --- Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Mike, and everyone else who commented. I have made an > in-between version: > > http://www.web-options.com/Easter/content/_4084944_large.html > > -- > Bob > > > > > > > I don't usually muck about much with photos, just > > presenting them more > > > or less as they come straight from the camera. However, here are > a > > > couple of photos from a reedbed close to my house: > > > > > > http://www.web-options.com/Reedbed/ > > > > > > I have altered the curves on both of these because the originals > are > > > very muddy: > > > http://www.web-options.com/_4084933.jpg > > > http://www.web-options.com/_4084944.jpg > > > > > > I'd be interested to hear peoples' opinions about these > alterations. > > > Do they look natural? I've done them by eye, but I don't > > trust my eyes > > > in this sort of thing, being colourblind. Do they look overdone? > > > > > > The more I look at them, the more I think the edited ones > > are overdone > > > and overdramatic. The unedited ones have a calm about them, > despite > > > the muddiness, which I quite like, but I feel as though > > they could do > > > with something a bit more. > > > > > > Opinions, please? > > > > They remind me of prints made in the 1970s, using Russian optics. > > Flary, slightly faded to that orange haze that they eventually > > degenerate into. Ideal for a Cadbury's Flake advert. You > > might call it > > impressionistic. 8-) I do like it. > > > > The room I'm viewing them in is far too bright. I might > > change my mind > > this evening. > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Reedbed
Yes, that's about right. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Thanks Mike, and everyone else who commented. I have made an > in-between version: > > http://www.web-options.com/Easter/content/_4084944_large.html > > -- > Bob > > > > > > > I don't usually muck about much with photos, just > > presenting them more > > > or less as they come straight from the camera. However, here > are a > > > couple of photos from a reedbed close to my house: > > > > > > http://www.web-options.com/Reedbed/ > > > > > > I have altered the curves on both of these because the > originals > are > > > very muddy: > > > http://www.web-options.com/_4084933.jpg > > > http://www.web-options.com/_4084944.jpg > > > > > > I'd be interested to hear peoples' opinions about these > alterations. > > > Do they look natural? I've done them by eye, but I don't > > trust my eyes > > > in this sort of thing, being colourblind. Do they look > overdone? > > > > > > The more I look at them, the more I think the edited ones > > are overdone > > > and overdramatic. The unedited ones have a calm about them, > despite > > > the muddiness, which I quite like, but I feel as though > > they could do > > > with something a bit more. > > > > > > Opinions, please? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Reedbed
That looks excellent, Bob! Godfrey On Apr 9, 2007, at 2:27 PM, Bob W wrote: > Thanks Mike, and everyone else who commented. I have made an > in-between version: > > http://www.web-options.com/Easter/content/_4084944_large.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Reedbed
On 4/9/07, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I don't usually muck about much with photos, just presenting them more > or less as they come straight from the camera. However, here are a > couple of photos from a reedbed close to my house: > > http://www.web-options.com/Reedbed/ > > I have altered the curves on both of these because the originals are > very muddy: > http://www.web-options.com/_4084933.jpg > http://www.web-options.com/_4084944.jpg > > I'd be interested to hear peoples' opinions about these alterations. > Do they look natural? I've done them by eye, but I don't trust my eyes > in this sort of thing, being colourblind. Do they look overdone? > > The more I look at them, the more I think the edited ones are overdone > and overdramatic. The unedited ones have a calm about them, despite > the muddiness, which I quite like, but I feel as though they could do > with something a bit more. > > Opinions, please? By far, I prefer your alterations, in both cases. Lovely, lovely photos!! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Reedbed
Thanks Mike, and everyone else who commented. I have made an in-between version: http://www.web-options.com/Easter/content/_4084944_large.html -- Bob > > > > I don't usually muck about much with photos, just > presenting them more > > or less as they come straight from the camera. However, here are a > > couple of photos from a reedbed close to my house: > > > > http://www.web-options.com/Reedbed/ > > > > I have altered the curves on both of these because the originals are > > very muddy: > > http://www.web-options.com/_4084933.jpg > > http://www.web-options.com/_4084944.jpg > > > > I'd be interested to hear peoples' opinions about these alterations. > > Do they look natural? I've done them by eye, but I don't > trust my eyes > > in this sort of thing, being colourblind. Do they look overdone? > > > > The more I look at them, the more I think the edited ones > are overdone > > and overdramatic. The unedited ones have a calm about them, despite > > the muddiness, which I quite like, but I feel as though > they could do > > with something a bit more. > > > > Opinions, please? > > They remind me of prints made in the 1970s, using Russian optics. > Flary, slightly faded to that orange haze that they eventually > degenerate into. Ideal for a Cadbury's Flake advert. You > might call it > impressionistic. 8-) I do like it. > > The room I'm viewing them in is far too bright. I might > change my mind > this evening. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Reedbed
The unedited versions look a bit flat and colorless. The modified versions may be too vibrant, but are much preferable. I couldn't tell you which was more accurate I wasn't there. Bob W wrote: > Hi, > > I don't usually muck about much with photos, just presenting them more > or less as they come straight from the camera. However, here are a > couple of photos from a reedbed close to my house: > > http://www.web-options.com/Reedbed/ > > I have altered the curves on both of these because the originals are > very muddy: > http://www.web-options.com/_4084933.jpg > http://www.web-options.com/_4084944.jpg > > I'd be interested to hear peoples' opinions about these alterations. > Do they look natural? I've done them by eye, but I don't trust my eyes > in this sort of thing, being colourblind. Do they look overdone? > > The more I look at them, the more I think the edited ones are overdone > and overdramatic. The unedited ones have a calm about them, despite > the muddiness, which I quite like, but I feel as though they could do > with something a bit more. > > Opinions, please? > > Thanks, > Bob > > > -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Reedbed
Bob, I think you did the right thing or almost the right thing. However on the second image the curve brought out the little flare patch just above and to the right from the weeds. There may be different ways to treat the originals however. May be even more towards the dark direction. Boris Bob W wrote: > Hi, > > I don't usually muck about much with photos, just presenting them more > or less as they come straight from the camera. However, here are a > couple of photos from a reedbed close to my house: > > http://www.web-options.com/Reedbed/ > > I have altered the curves on both of these because the originals are > very muddy: > http://www.web-options.com/_4084933.jpg > http://www.web-options.com/_4084944.jpg > > I'd be interested to hear peoples' opinions about these alterations. > Do they look natural? I've done them by eye, but I don't trust my eyes > in this sort of thing, being colourblind. Do they look overdone? > > The more I look at them, the more I think the edited ones are overdone > and overdramatic. The unedited ones have a calm about them, despite > the muddiness, which I quite like, but I feel as though they could do > with something a bit more. > > Opinions, please? > > Thanks, > Bob > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Reedbed
Pretty. I prefer the second. BTW, it has a white spot near the upper left that I would clone out. The first is fine, but a bit on the light side. More midtone contrast might perk it up a tad more. Both are nice. Marnie aka Doe :-) --- Hi, I don't usually muck about much with photos, just presenting them more or less as they come straight from the camera. However, here are a couple of photos from a reedbed close to my house: http://www.web-options.com/Reedbed/ I have altered the curves on both of these because the originals are very muddy: http://www.web-options.com/_4084933.jpg http://www.web-options.com/_4084944.jpg I'd be interested to hear peoples' opinions about these alterations. Do they look natural? I've done them by eye, but I don't trust my eyes in this sort of thing, being colourblind. Do they look overdone? The more I look at them, the more I think the edited ones are overdone and overdramatic. The unedited ones have a calm about them, despite the muddiness, which I quite like, but I feel as though they could do with something a bit more. Opinions, please? Thanks, Bob ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Reedbed
xx933.jpg and your altered version are both excellent, they have a different feel but both are pleasant. xx944.jpg and the altered version differ more: I think you went a bit too far on that one and blew out the highlights. xx944.jpg is more delicate and needs just a tiny bit of adjustment to work well. Both are excellent photos! Godfrey On Apr 9, 2007, at 1:41 AM, Bob W wrote: > I don't usually muck about much with photos, just presenting them more > or less as they come straight from the camera. However, here are a > couple of photos from a reedbed close to my house: > > http://www.web-options.com/Reedbed/ > > I have altered the curves on both of these because the originals are > very muddy: > http://www.web-options.com/_4084933.jpg > http://www.web-options.com/_4084944.jpg > > I'd be interested to hear peoples' opinions about these alterations. > Do they look natural? I've done them by eye, but I don't trust my eyes > in this sort of thing, being colourblind. Do they look overdone? > > The more I look at them, the more I think the edited ones are overdone > and overdramatic. The unedited ones have a calm about them, despite > the muddiness, which I quite like, but I feel as though they could do > with something a bit more. > > Opinions, please? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Reedbed
I like the originals better; they are very nice. Rick --- Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I don't usually muck about much with photos, just > presenting them more > or less as they come straight from the camera. > However, here are a > couple of photos from a reedbed close to my house: > > http://www.web-options.com/Reedbed/ > > I have altered the curves on both of these because > the originals are > very muddy: > http://www.web-options.com/_4084933.jpg > http://www.web-options.com/_4084944.jpg > > I'd be interested to hear peoples' opinions about > these alterations. > Do they look natural? I've done them by eye, but I > don't trust my eyes > in this sort of thing, being colourblind. Do they > look overdone? > > The more I look at them, the more I think the edited > ones are overdone > and overdramatic. The unedited ones have a calm > about them, despite > the muddiness, which I quite like, but I feel as > though they could do > with something a bit more. > > Opinions, please? > > Thanks, > Bob > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Reedbed
Bob W wrote: > Hi, > > I don't usually muck about much with photos, just presenting them more > or less as they come straight from the camera. However, here are a > couple of photos from a reedbed close to my house: > > http://www.web-options.com/Reedbed/ > > I have altered the curves on both of these because the originals are > very muddy: > http://www.web-options.com/_4084933.jpg > http://www.web-options.com/_4084944.jpg > > I'd be interested to hear peoples' opinions about these alterations. > Do they look natural? I've done them by eye, but I don't trust my eyes > in this sort of thing, being colourblind. Do they look overdone? > > The more I look at them, the more I think the edited ones are overdone > and overdramatic. The unedited ones have a calm about them, despite > the muddiness, which I quite like, but I feel as though they could do > with something a bit more. > > Opinions, please? They remind me of prints made in the 1970s, using Russian optics. Flary, slightly faded to that orange haze that they eventually degenerate into. Ideal for a Cadbury's Flake advert. You might call it impressionistic. 8-) I do like it. The room I'm viewing them in is far too bright. I might change my mind this evening. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Reedbed
Bob, I'm impressed with your treatment of these images. 4084944 is exceedingly nice. Jack --- Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I don't usually muck about much with photos, just presenting them > more > or less as they come straight from the camera. However, here are a > couple of photos from a reedbed close to my house: > > http://www.web-options.com/Reedbed/ > > I have altered the curves on both of these because the originals are > very muddy: > http://www.web-options.com/_4084933.jpg > http://www.web-options.com/_4084944.jpg > > I'd be interested to hear peoples' opinions about these alterations. > Do they look natural? I've done them by eye, but I don't trust my > eyes > in this sort of thing, being colourblind. Do they look overdone? > > The more I look at them, the more I think the edited ones are > overdone > and overdramatic. The unedited ones have a calm about them, despite > the muddiness, which I quite like, but I feel as though they could do > with something a bit more. > > Opinions, please? > > Thanks, > Bob > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Reedbed
I think you're right that they do look muddy but I think your treatment goes a little too far in the opposite direction. Looking at 4084944, getting a golden glow on the reeds is on the right track but seems overdone here. I think you also need to try to retain darkness in the background foliage (maybe use a layer mask to partially protect the background foliage from the adjustments carried out on the reeds). The images are well worth a bit of work. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > I don't usually muck about much with photos, just presenting them > more > or less as they come straight from the camera. However, here are a > couple of photos from a reedbed close to my house: > > http://www.web-options.com/Reedbed/ > > I have altered the curves on both of these because the originals > are > very muddy: > http://www.web-options.com/_4084933.jpg > http://www.web-options.com/_4084944.jpg > > I'd be interested to hear peoples' opinions about these > alterations. > Do they look natural? I've done them by eye, but I don't trust my > eyes > in this sort of thing, being colourblind. Do they look overdone? > > The more I look at them, the more I think the edited ones are > overdone > and overdramatic. The unedited ones have a calm about them, > despite > the muddiness, which I quite like, but I feel as though they could > do > with something a bit more. > > Opinions, please? > > Thanks, > Bob > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Reedbed
Hi, I don't usually muck about much with photos, just presenting them more or less as they come straight from the camera. However, here are a couple of photos from a reedbed close to my house: http://www.web-options.com/Reedbed/ I have altered the curves on both of these because the originals are very muddy: http://www.web-options.com/_4084933.jpg http://www.web-options.com/_4084944.jpg I'd be interested to hear peoples' opinions about these alterations. Do they look natural? I've done them by eye, but I don't trust my eyes in this sort of thing, being colourblind. Do they look overdone? The more I look at them, the more I think the edited ones are overdone and overdramatic. The unedited ones have a calm about them, despite the muddiness, which I quite like, but I feel as though they could do with something a bit more. Opinions, please? Thanks, Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
