RE: [PHP] Google Chrome
Yeah, my Kerios firewall kept popping up asking me to Permit google something to go somewhere off my computer. Even when Chrome wasn't running. I sure like the skinnyness and the last visited webpage. What can you tell a 500 pound gorilla? probably nothing. >>> "Boyd, Todd M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9/4/2008 1:26:16 PM >>> > -Original Message-> From: Wolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 1:34 PM> To: Boyd, Todd M.> Cc: php-general@lists.php.net> Subject: RE: [PHP] Google Chrome> > > > You can at least track memory + cpu usage through the Task Manager> > (Ctrl-Alt-Del + T on most distros). In the Task Manager, I also> noticed> > that GoogleUpdate.exe is running even when Chrome.exe is not. This> made> > me a bit curious, so I went into msconfig (the Microsoft GUI utility> for> > modifying startup programs, services, and system INI files) and saw> that> > GoogleUpdate.exe had been added to the list of programs to run on> > Windows startup.> >> > I hate, hate, HATE it when programs install resident agents that eat> my> > memory and perform background network activity. Rrgh! Points taken> away> > from Google for this app's EULA and its methods. Slick otherwise,> though> > (aside from the lack of XMLDOM instantiation support for> _javascript_)...> > startup monitor -> sure it runs at startup, but that little bugger> keeps an eye on my startup and asks me if I want to allow my startup to> be modified.Yeah, I used to use a program that had similar functionality. Haven't really bothered putting much of my "familiar" software on my work PC, but maybe I should after this... it has been bogging down a bit lately, after all.Todd BoydWeb Programmer
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
> Under the Options and "Under the Hood" there's an option called: Nope, no effect I'm afraid. -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for IE7, FF, Opera and Safari: http://www.phpguru.org/RGraph -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Under the Options and "Under the Hood" there's an option called: "Use DNS pre-fetching to improve page load performance" I think that's what I was thinking of. That's probably not pre-fetching whole pages so much as just resolving DNS ahead of time. There still could be some pre-caching going on that you just can't control. Not sure. -TG - Original Message - From: "Richard Heyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: TG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Ovidiu Rosoiu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, php-general@lists.php.net Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:12:13 +0100 Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome > Hi, > > > There's an option for pre-buffering things, I believe. > > Where? > > -- > Richard Heyes > > HTML5 Graphing for IE7, FF, Opera and Safari: > http://www.phpguru.org/RGraph > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > rather like someone running off with your girlfriend ... you get denied > service. Burn of the week! :) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Google Chrome
> -Original Message- > From: Jochem Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 6:53 AM > To: Robert Cummings > Cc: Bastien Koert; Dan Shirah; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; List_PHP_General > Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome > > Robert Cummings schreef: > > On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 03:15 +0200, Jochem Maas wrote: > >> Bastien Koert schreef: > >>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> Bastien Koert schreef: > >>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Dan Shirah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Yippie, Chrome already exploited for DoS attacks? > >>>>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1847&tag=nl.e539 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Its not a DoS, its just a browser crash > >>>>> > >>>> so forcing a browser to crash is not 'Denial of Service'? > >>>> > >>>> I think your confused with DDoS > >>>> > >>>> > >>> DDoS is a Distributed Denial of Service attack where a server is > attacked > >>> via multiple computers (like a bot net) at the same time AFAIK > >> no shit. so if you drop the 'Distributed' you get 'Denial of > Service'. DoS > >> is rather general, code that keeps crashing your browser on purpose > is denying > >> you the service it provides (viewing webpages). > >> > >> rather like someone running off with your girlfriend ... you get > denied service. > > > > I thought Chrome was set up so if your current page caused a crash > other > > loaded pages didn't crash also. In which case DoS doesn't apply if > only > > the requested page crashes since you're still getting service. > > yes, and somebody already showed how to crash the whole damn app. > type 'evil:%', for example, into the addressbar IIRC Yep, that'll do it. As soon as you type the %, it crashes. Anything followed by ":%" seems to do it. Also FWIW, I've crashed it with 5 tabs open when I tried to close one of the tabs. Clicking the option to restart Chrome brought it back up with all 5 tabs. Again, when I tried to close one, it crashed and reinstated all 5 upon restart... ad nauseum. Maybe I'm picky... but if a newly-released beta program crashes in the first minute or two that I'm playing with, it proobably wasn't ready for beta in the first place. My 2c. Todd Boyd Web Programmer -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Robert Cummings schreef: On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 03:15 +0200, Jochem Maas wrote: Bastien Koert schreef: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bastien Koert schreef: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Dan Shirah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yippie, Chrome already exploited for DoS attacks? http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1847&tag=nl.e539 Its not a DoS, its just a browser crash so forcing a browser to crash is not 'Denial of Service'? I think your confused with DDoS DDoS is a Distributed Denial of Service attack where a server is attacked via multiple computers (like a bot net) at the same time AFAIK no shit. so if you drop the 'Distributed' you get 'Denial of Service'. DoS is rather general, code that keeps crashing your browser on purpose is denying you the service it provides (viewing webpages). rather like someone running off with your girlfriend ... you get denied service. I thought Chrome was set up so if your current page caused a crash other loaded pages didn't crash also. In which case DoS doesn't apply if only the requested page crashes since you're still getting service. yes, and somebody already showed how to crash the whole damn app. type 'evil:%', for example, into the addressbar IIRC :-D Cheers, Rob. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
> > I uninstalled it precisely beacause of this behaviour. The disk was > > running crazy every time chrome was started. > > And I don't know how to do "lsof | grep chrome" on Windows to see what's > > going on. LSOF for winblows: http://download.sysinternals.com/Files/ProcessMonitor.zip -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Hi, > There's an option for pre-buffering things, I believe. Where? -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for IE7, FF, Opera and Safari: http://www.phpguru.org/RGraph -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Shawn McKenzie wrote: Per Jessen wrote: Stut wrote: On 2 Sep 2008, at 20:23, Diogo Neves wrote: Now is the time ;) Indeed: http://www.google.com/chrome But only for Windows for now :( I guess we'll have to wait a little longer then ... /Per Jessen, Zürich Will somebody volunteer to test on Wine or Mono? -Shawn Tried on Wine (version 0.9.60 on OpenSuse) and I could even get the downloader to start. To be fair, I've never really got anything to work on Wine... -- Peter Ford phone: 01580 89 Developer fax: 01580 893399 Justcroft International Ltd., Staplehurst, Kent -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 03:15 +0200, Jochem Maas wrote: > Bastien Koert schreef: > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Bastien Koert schreef: > >> > >>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Dan Shirah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Yippie, Chrome already exploited for DoS attacks? > http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1847&tag=nl.e539 > > > >>> Its not a DoS, its just a browser crash > >>> > >> so forcing a browser to crash is not 'Denial of Service'? > >> > >> I think your confused with DDoS > >> > >> > > DDoS is a Distributed Denial of Service attack where a server is attacked > > via multiple computers (like a bot net) at the same time AFAIK > > no shit. so if you drop the 'Distributed' you get 'Denial of Service'. DoS > is rather general, code that keeps crashing your browser on purpose is denying > you the service it provides (viewing webpages). > > rather like someone running off with your girlfriend ... you get denied > service. I thought Chrome was set up so if your current page caused a crash other loaded pages didn't crash also. In which case DoS doesn't apply if only the requested page crashes since you're still getting service. Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Bastien Koert schreef: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bastien Koert schreef: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Dan Shirah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yippie, Chrome already exploited for DoS attacks? http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1847&tag=nl.e539 Its not a DoS, its just a browser crash so forcing a browser to crash is not 'Denial of Service'? I think your confused with DDoS DDoS is a Distributed Denial of Service attack where a server is attacked via multiple computers (like a bot net) at the same time AFAIK no shit. so if you drop the 'Distributed' you get 'Denial of Service'. DoS is rather general, code that keeps crashing your browser on purpose is denying you the service it provides (viewing webpages). rather like someone running off with your girlfriend ... you get denied service. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bastien Koert schreef: > >> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Dan Shirah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Yippie, Chrome already exploited for DoS attacks? >>> >>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1847&tag=nl.e539 >>> >>> >> Its not a DoS, its just a browser crash >> > > so forcing a browser to crash is not 'Denial of Service'? > > I think your confused with DDoS > > >> > DDoS is a Distributed Denial of Service attack where a server is attacked via multiple computers (like a bot net) at the same time AFAIK -- Bastien Cat, the other other white meat
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Jochem Maas wrote: Bastien Koert schreef: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Dan Shirah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yippie, Chrome already exploited for DoS attacks? http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1847&tag=nl.e539 Its not a DoS, its just a browser crash so forcing a browser to crash is not 'Denial of Service'? I think your confused with DDoS It depends on what site he planned to visit. Google - DoS Zombo.com - Not DoS. ;) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Bastien Koert schreef: On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Dan Shirah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yippie, Chrome already exploited for DoS attacks? http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1847&tag=nl.e539 Its not a DoS, its just a browser crash so forcing a browser to crash is not 'Denial of Service'? I think your confused with DDoS -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Dan Shirah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yippie, Chrome already exploited for DoS attacks? > > http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1847&tag=nl.e539 > Its not a DoS, its just a browser crash -- Bastien Cat, the other other white meat
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Yippie, Chrome already exploited for DoS attacks? http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1847&tag=nl.e539
RE: [PHP] Google Chrome
> -Original Message- > From: Wolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 1:34 PM > To: Boyd, Todd M. > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: RE: [PHP] Google Chrome > > > > You can at least track memory + cpu usage through the Task Manager > > (Ctrl-Alt-Del + T on most distros). In the Task Manager, I also > noticed > > that GoogleUpdate.exe is running even when Chrome.exe is not. This > made > > me a bit curious, so I went into msconfig (the Microsoft GUI utility > for > > modifying startup programs, services, and system INI files) and saw > that > > GoogleUpdate.exe had been added to the list of programs to run on > > Windows startup. > > > > I hate, hate, HATE it when programs install resident agents that eat > my > > memory and perform background network activity. Rrgh! Points taken > away > > from Google for this app's EULA and its methods. Slick otherwise, > though > > (aside from the lack of XMLDOM instantiation support for > Javascript)... > > startup monitor -> sure it runs at startup, but that little bugger > keeps an eye on my startup and asks me if I want to allow my startup to > be modified. Yeah, I used to use a program that had similar functionality. Haven't really bothered putting much of my "familiar" software on my work PC, but maybe I should after this... it has been bogging down a bit lately, after all. Todd Boyd Web Programmer
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Shawn McKenzie wrote: > Will somebody volunteer to test on Wine or Mono? > > -Shawn > already done by this guy http://www.myscienceisbetter.info/2008/09/install-google-chrome-on-linux-using-wine.html eugene -- - Eugene Mah, M.Sc., DABR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Medical Physicist/Misplaced Canuck[EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Radiology [EMAIL PROTECTED] Medical University of South Carolina "For I am a Bear of Very Little Charleston, South Carolina Brain, and long words Bother http://www.netcom.com/~eugenem/me." Winnie the Pooh http://radinfo.musc.edu/~eugenem/blog/ PGP KeyID = 0x1F9779FD, 0x319393F4 PGP keys available on request ICQ 3113529 O- - -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Google Chrome
> You can at least track memory + cpu usage through the Task Manager > (Ctrl-Alt-Del + T on most distros). In the Task Manager, I also noticed > that GoogleUpdate.exe is running even when Chrome.exe is not. This made > me a bit curious, so I went into msconfig (the Microsoft GUI utility for > modifying startup programs, services, and system INI files) and saw that > GoogleUpdate.exe had been added to the list of programs to run on > Windows startup. > > I hate, hate, HATE it when programs install resident agents that eat my > memory and perform background network activity. Rrgh! Points taken away > from Google for this app's EULA and its methods. Slick otherwise, though > (aside from the lack of XMLDOM instantiation support for Javascript)... startup monitor -> sure it runs at startup, but that little bugger keeps an eye on my startup and asks me if I want to allow my startup to be modified. :-) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Wow, didn't notice the GoogleUpdate.exe, thanks for the heads up on that. Agreed about programs adding items in our startup. On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Boyd, Todd M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Ovidiu Rosoiu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 12:56 PM >> To: Richard Heyes >> Cc: php-general@lists.php.net >> Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome >> >> Richard Heyes wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > Is it just me, or is everyones disk thrshing more since installing >> (if >> > you have) Chrome? Oh, and to keep it in-line with list, isn't PHP >> > great? :-) >> > >> > >> I uninstalled it precisely beacause of this behaviour. The disk was >> running crazy every time chrome was started. >> And I don't know how to do "lsof | grep chrome" on Windows to see >> what's >> going on. > > You can at least track memory + cpu usage through the Task Manager > (Ctrl-Alt-Del + T on most distros). In the Task Manager, I also noticed > that GoogleUpdate.exe is running even when Chrome.exe is not. This made > me a bit curious, so I went into msconfig (the Microsoft GUI utility for > modifying startup programs, services, and system INI files) and saw that > GoogleUpdate.exe had been added to the list of programs to run on > Windows startup. > > I hate, hate, HATE it when programs install resident agents that eat my > memory and perform background network activity. Rrgh! Points taken away > from Google for this app's EULA and its methods. Slick otherwise, though > (aside from the lack of XMLDOM instantiation support for Javascript)... > > > Todd Boyd > Web Programmer > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
There's an option for pre-buffering things, I believe. It may be doing that. Or it may be just indexing your whole HD and sending it's contents back to Google. :) -TG - Original Message - From: Ovidiu Rosoiu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:55:33 +0300 Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome > Richard Heyes wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Is it just me, or is everyones disk thrshing more since installing (if > > you have) Chrome? Oh, and to keep it in-line with list, isn't PHP > > great? :-) > > > > > I uninstalled it precisely beacause of this behaviour. The disk was > running crazy every time chrome was started. > And I don't know how to do "lsof | grep chrome" on Windows to see what's > going on. > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Google Chrome
> -Original Message- > From: Ovidiu Rosoiu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 12:56 PM > To: Richard Heyes > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome > > Richard Heyes wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Is it just me, or is everyones disk thrshing more since installing > (if > > you have) Chrome? Oh, and to keep it in-line with list, isn't PHP > > great? :-) > > > > > I uninstalled it precisely beacause of this behaviour. The disk was > running crazy every time chrome was started. > And I don't know how to do "lsof | grep chrome" on Windows to see > what's > going on. You can at least track memory + cpu usage through the Task Manager (Ctrl-Alt-Del + T on most distros). In the Task Manager, I also noticed that GoogleUpdate.exe is running even when Chrome.exe is not. This made me a bit curious, so I went into msconfig (the Microsoft GUI utility for modifying startup programs, services, and system INI files) and saw that GoogleUpdate.exe had been added to the list of programs to run on Windows startup. I hate, hate, HATE it when programs install resident agents that eat my memory and perform background network activity. Rrgh! Points taken away from Google for this app's EULA and its methods. Slick otherwise, though (aside from the lack of XMLDOM instantiation support for Javascript)... Todd Boyd Web Programmer -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Ovidiu Rosoiu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Richard Heyes wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Is it just me, or is everyones disk thrshing more since installing (if >> you have) Chrome? Oh, and to keep it in-line with list, isn't PHP >> great? :-) >> >> >> > I uninstalled it precisely beacause of this behaviour. The disk was running > crazy every time chrome was started. > And I don't know how to do "lsof | grep chrome" on Windows to see what's > going on. > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > Strange, I am not seeing that behavior at all. I am currently running an older Dell machine with 1.5Gb ram and have Firefox 3 (5 tabs open including gmail and yahoo) IE8 ( 1 tab open) Chrome ( 1 tab open ) among a half dozen other apps open and I am not high in the disk or cpu usage... The biggest cpu hog for me right now is WMPlayer 11 -- Bastien Cat, the other other white meat
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Richard Heyes wrote: Hi, Is it just me, or is everyones disk thrshing more since installing (if you have) Chrome? Oh, and to keep it in-line with list, isn't PHP great? :-) I uninstalled it precisely beacause of this behaviour. The disk was running crazy every time chrome was started. And I don't know how to do "lsof | grep chrome" on Windows to see what's going on. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Google Chrome [0T]
> -Original Message- > From: Andrew Ballard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 2:53 PM > To: PHP General list > Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome > > On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Since gmail won't take exe files... > > > > http://lonewolf.homelinux.net/ChromeSetup.exe > > > > Andrew Ballard wrote: > >> I tried to grab it, but it seems that my employer is protecting me > >> from it. Interesting. > >> > >> Andrew > >> > > > > That wouldn't work here. I could grab the ChromeSetup.exe, but when I > ran it I kept getting an error message: > > Download error. The downloaded file failed verification. Error code = > 0x80040508 > > > It seems that ChromeSetup.exe is a downloader that tries to pull the > actual installer named chrome_installer.exe from another hidden URL, > and it's that other site that is blocked here. > > At any rate, I found it the installer somewhere else. On another (somewhat unrelated) note, Chrome--and apparently WebKit as a whole (Safari, etc.)--does not support the creation of XML DOM elements using Javascript. I realize it has little or nothing to do with PHP, but I thought it was worth bringing up. I'm working on a Google Maps mash-up right now, and I figured I'd test it out in Chrome after I downloaded the browser here at work. It breaks on document.implementation and (of course) the ActiveX method. Todd Boyd Web Programmer
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Richard Heyes wrote: > Hi, > > Is it just me, or is everyones disk thrshing more since installing (if > you have) Chrome? Oh, and to keep it in-line with list, isn't PHP > great? :-) > I didn't even manage to download it - with FF+Linux there's no downloadable version (ok, not yet ready), but then I tried downloading from Windows, and I still got no link - which is when I spotted that Chrome is only for XP and Vista - not W2K. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Hi, Is it just me, or is everyones disk thrshing more since installing (if you have) Chrome? Oh, and to keep it in-line with list, isn't PHP great? :-) -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for IE7, FF, Opera and Safari: http://www.phpguru.org/RGraph -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On September 2, 2008 09:36:42 pm Haig Dedeyan wrote: > On September 2, 2008 09:33:30 pm Haig Dedeyan wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:12 AM, Haig Dedeyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On September 2, 2008 05:56:23 pm Haig Dedeyan wrote: > > > > > > Does anyone know what this implies? It's the 2nd section from their > > > license agreement: > > > > > > "By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a > > > perpetual, > > > irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to > > > reproduce, > > > adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display > > > and distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or > > > through, the services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling > > > Google to display, > > > distribute and promote the services and may be revoked for certain > > > services as defined in the additional terms of those services." > > > > What they call displaying content? because I as website owner never > > agreed with this licence! > > I'm hoping that all this means is that they if you post something positive > about chrome on some forum/blog, they can use it. Which begs the question, > how would they know what I post. > > Haig Looks like Google is changing their EULA: http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/090308-google-amends-chrome-license-agreement.html Haig > > > > Haig > > > > > > > Mouse wheel works fine for me. > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Douglas Temple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "Robert Cummings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > > > > Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:04:30 +0100 > > > > Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome > > > > > > > > > Beta or not, it's still amazingly fast. > > > > > Despite the fact you can't scroll up with the mouse wheel... > > > > > > -- > > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since gmail won't take exe files... > > http://lonewolf.homelinux.net/ChromeSetup.exe > > Andrew Ballard wrote: >> I tried to grab it, but it seems that my employer is protecting me >> from it. Interesting. >> >> Andrew >> > That wouldn't work here. I could grab the ChromeSetup.exe, but when I ran it I kept getting an error message: Download error. The downloaded file failed verification. Error code = 0x80040508 It seems that ChromeSetup.exe is a downloader that tries to pull the actual installer named chrome_installer.exe from another hidden URL, and it's that other site that is blocked here. At any rate, I found it the installer somewhere else. Andrew -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
I tried to grab it, but it seems that my employer is protecting me from it. Interesting. Andrew -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Google Chrome
Shawn McKenzie schrieb: Per Jessen wrote: Stut wrote: On 2 Sep 2008, at 20:23, Diogo Neves wrote: Now is the time ;) Indeed: http://www.google.com/chrome But only for Windows for now :( I guess we'll have to wait a little longer then ... /Per Jessen, Zürich Will somebody volunteer to test on Wine or Mono? -Shawn Hi, I tried Wine with the chrome.exe of the 7-Zip packet/Google directory, but it failed both. The setup.exe failed too. But it was only a short test. Error: fixme:ntdll:NtSetInformationProcess (0x,0x0022,0x33fbd0,0x0004) stub -- Viele Grüße Dominik Strauß - www.n3or.de Webentwicklung, PHP und Linux Mobil: 0178 4940605 Internet: www.n3or.de E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Viele Grüße Dominik Strauß - www.n3or.de Webentwicklung, PHP und Linux Mobil: 0178 4940605 Internet: www.n3or.de E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Jim Lucas schreef: Nathan Nobbe wrote: On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: when will Google bring out the Google levitation device...? i heard they programmed it in c++ :) -nathan I would think something that sophisticated should be written in LISP I know I am ... written in LISP that is :-P -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Nathan Nobbe wrote: On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: when will Google bring out the Google levitation device...? i heard they programmed it in c++ :) -nathan I would think something that sophisticated should be written in LISP -- Jim Lucas "Some men are born to greatness, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them." Twelfth Night, Act II, Scene V by William Shakespeare -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Shawn McKenzie a écrit : Will somebody volunteer to test on Wine or Mono? Google don't allow the downloading from Linux (I now, I can easily work around, but I don't workaround when the other site won't). -- Mickaël Wolff aka Lupus Michaelis http://lupusmic.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > when will Google bring out the Google levitation device...? i heard they programmed it in c++ :) -nathan
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Per Jessen wrote: Stut wrote: On 2 Sep 2008, at 20:23, Diogo Neves wrote: Now is the time ;) Indeed: http://www.google.com/chrome But only for Windows for now :( I guess we'll have to wait a little longer then ... /Per Jessen, Zürich Will somebody volunteer to test on Wine or Mono? -Shawn -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
> Tomorrow I think... And now tomorrow has arrived and I've downloaded it, I think it looks quite good. Perhaps unsurprisingly from Google, it's rather fast. Thankfully, it appears to support my (HTML5) RGraph thang. I do wonder, when will Google bring out the Google levitation device...? If anyone is interested I've already updated my browser detection thang for it. -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for IE7, FF, Opera and Safari: http://www.phpguru.org/RGraph -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Jochem Maas wrote: Haig Dedeyan schreef: On September 2, 2008 05:56:23 pm Haig Dedeyan wrote: Does anyone know what this implies? It's the 2nd section from their license agreement: "By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or through, the services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the services and may be revoked for certain services as defined in the additional terms of those services." scary ... but what's this context of this section (I'm on MacOS .. still waiting for a beta ;-)) ... more precisely what's the definition of "the content" and "the services". I can't imagine the browser can be considered a service by any means. Some sections seems to imply that you HAVE to be connected to Google even to use the browser? And that they reserve the right to stop you browsing if they need to? Can anybody confirm that I will be able to use the browser off line on a closed network, since that would be the environment *I* would be testing anything new in :) At present I don't feel able to accept their terms at all? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Haig Dedeyan schreef: On September 2, 2008 05:56:23 pm Haig Dedeyan wrote: Does anyone know what this implies? It's the 2nd section from their license agreement: "By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or through, the services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the services and may be revoked for certain services as defined in the additional terms of those services." scary ... but what's this context of this section (I'm on MacOS .. still waiting for a beta ;-)) ... more precisely what's the definition of "the content" and "the services". I can't imagine the browser can be considered a service by any means. Haig Mouse wheel works fine for me. - Original Message - From: "Douglas Temple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Robert Cummings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:04:30 +0100 Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome Beta or not, it's still amazingly fast. Despite the fact you can't scroll up with the mouse wheel... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Stut wrote: > On 2 Sep 2008, at 20:23, Diogo Neves wrote: >> Now is the time ;) > > Indeed: http://www.google.com/chrome > > But only for Windows for now :( > I guess we'll have to wait a little longer then ... /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:36 AM, Haig Dedeyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On September 2, 2008 09:33:30 pm Haig Dedeyan wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:12 AM, Haig Dedeyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > On September 2, 2008 05:56:23 pm Haig Dedeyan wrote: > > > > > > Does anyone know what this implies? It's the 2nd section from their > > > license agreement: > > > > > > "By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a > > > perpetual, > > > irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to > > > reproduce, > > > adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display > and > > > distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or through, > > > the services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google > to > > > display, > > > distribute and promote the services and may be revoked for certain > > > services as defined in the additional terms of those services." > > > > What they call displaying content? because I as website owner never > agreed > > with this licence! > > > > I'm hoping that all this means is that they if you post something positive > about chrome on some forum/blog, they can use it. Which begs the question, > how would they know what I post. > > Haig That don't seem like "All you say about this browser we can use", seams more like "All you spell out off by this browser is ours"... It think that every day they sounds more and more like Microsoft... A big monopoly... They deserve it, but still a monopoly and what it means > > > > > > Haig > > > > > > > Mouse wheel works fine for me. > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Douglas Temple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "Robert Cummings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > > > > Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:04:30 +0100 > > > > Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome > > > > > > > > > Beta or not, it's still amazingly fast. > > > > > Despite the fact you can't scroll up with the mouse wheel... > > > > > > -- > > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- Thanks for your attention, Diogo Neves Web Developer @ SAPO.pt by PrimeIT.pt
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On September 2, 2008 09:33:30 pm Haig Dedeyan wrote: > On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:12 AM, Haig Dedeyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On September 2, 2008 05:56:23 pm Haig Dedeyan wrote: > > > > Does anyone know what this implies? It's the 2nd section from their > > license agreement: > > > > "By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a > > perpetual, > > irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to > > reproduce, > > adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and > > distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or through, > > the services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to > > display, > > distribute and promote the services and may be revoked for certain > > services as defined in the additional terms of those services." > > What they call displaying content? because I as website owner never agreed > with this licence! > I'm hoping that all this means is that they if you post something positive about chrome on some forum/blog, they can use it. Which begs the question, how would they know what I post. Haig > > Haig > > > > > Mouse wheel works fine for me. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Douglas Temple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "Robert Cummings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > > > Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:04:30 +0100 > > > Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome > > > > > > > Beta or not, it's still amazingly fast. > > > > Despite the fact you can't scroll up with the mouse wheel... > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:12 AM, Haig Dedeyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On September 2, 2008 05:56:23 pm Haig Dedeyan wrote: > > Does anyone know what this implies? It's the 2nd section from their license > agreement: > > "By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a > perpetual, > irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to > reproduce, > adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and > distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or through, the > services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to > display, > distribute and promote the services and may be revoked for certain services > as defined in the additional terms of those services." > What they call displaying content? because I as website owner never agreed with this licence! > > Haig > > > > Mouse wheel works fine for me. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Douglas Temple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Robert Cummings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > > Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:04:30 +0100 > > Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome > > > > > Beta or not, it's still amazingly fast. > > > Despite the fact you can't scroll up with the mouse wheel... > > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- Thanks for your attention, Diogo Neves Web Developer @ SAPO.pt by PrimeIT.pt
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On September 2, 2008 05:56:23 pm Haig Dedeyan wrote: Does anyone know what this implies? It's the 2nd section from their license agreement: "By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or through, the services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the services and may be revoked for certain services as defined in the additional terms of those services." Haig > Mouse wheel works fine for me. > > - Original Message - > From: "Douglas Temple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Robert Cummings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: php-general@lists.php.net > Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:04:30 +0100 > Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome > > > Beta or not, it's still amazingly fast. > > Despite the fact you can't scroll up with the mouse wheel... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Mouse wheel works fine for me. - Original Message - From: "Douglas Temple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Robert Cummings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:04:30 +0100 Subject: Re: [PHP] Google Chrome > Beta or not, it's still amazingly fast. > Despite the fact you can't scroll up with the mouse wheel... > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Douglas Temple <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Once. > > 'Nuff said. > I used to hate it. After using it for a while though I noticed that it rendered pages faster than all the other browsers I use. Too bad the developer console isn't as nice as firebug though. :) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 21:10 +0100, Douglas Temple wrote: > Once. .. twice, three times a lady?? > 'Nuff said. Sorry, not enuff for me... not sure how it applies to the thread. Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Once. 'Nuff said.
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Douglas Temple <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Beta or not, it's still amazingly fast. > Despite the fact you can't scroll up with the mouse wheel... > Ever use Safari? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Beta or not, it's still amazingly fast. Despite the fact you can't scroll up with the mouse wheel...
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 20:38 +0100, Stut wrote: > On 2 Sep 2008, at 20:23, Diogo Neves wrote: > > Now is the time ;) > > Indeed: http://www.google.com/chrome > > But only for Windows for now :( Oh well, guess I'll have to run it in vmware. Fortunately I have a dedicate 1TB drive for vmware appliances :) Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
> I got the linux version coming soon message myself. It will probably > be instructions on how to install wine, right? ;) Or Windows... :-) -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for IE7, FF, Opera and Safari: http://www.phpguru.org/RGraph -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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> www.google.com/chrome > > Now is the time ;) Sadly, my bedtime looms. Tomorrow I think... -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for IE7, FF, Opera and Safari: http://www.phpguru.org/RGraph -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Stut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2 Sep 2008, at 20:23, Diogo Neves wrote: > >> Now is the time ;) >> > > Indeed: http://www.google.com/chrome > > But only for Windows for now :( > > -Stut > > -- > http://stut.net/ > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > Well its not that exciting I guess. All the hype, and its a browser. :) It is fast though, I'll give it that. -- -Dan Joseph www.canishosting.com - Plans start @ $1.99/month. "Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for the rest of the day. Light a man on fire, and will be warm for the rest of his life."
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Stut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2 Sep 2008, at 20:23, Diogo Neves wrote: >> >> Now is the time ;) > > Indeed: http://www.google.com/chrome > > But only for Windows for now :( > > -Stut > > -- > http://stut.net/ > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > I got the linux version coming soon message myself. It will probably be instructions on how to install wine, right? ;) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Yes, and the proxy configuration lauches the IE configuration window! On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Stut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2 Sep 2008, at 20:23, Diogo Neves wrote: > >> Now is the time ;) >> > > Indeed: http://www.google.com/chrome > > But only for Windows for now :( > > -Stut > > -- > http://stut.net/ > >
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On 2 Sep 2008, at 20:23, Diogo Neves wrote: Now is the time ;) Indeed: http://www.google.com/chrome But only for Windows for now :( -Stut -- http://stut.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > And more about it: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7593106.stm > > -- > Richard Heyes > > HTML5 Graphing for IE7, FF, Opera and Safari: > http://www.phpguru.org/RGraph > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > www.google.com/chrome Now is the time ;) -- Thanks for your attention, Diogo Neves Web Developer @ SAPO.pt by PrimeIT.pt
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Hi, And more about it: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7593106.stm -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for IE7, FF, Opera and Safari: http://www.phpguru.org/RGraph -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On 9/2/08, Bastien Koert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > If MS doesn't, then why on Earth should we? ;) > > > > Because there aren't enough high horses to go around... :-) > > > > -- > > Richard Heyes > > > > HTML5 Graphing for IE7, FF, Opera and Safari: > > http://www.phpguru.org/RGraph > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > Just when things were getting dull with IE8 claiming better standards > support The tech writer in our local newspaper reviewed IE8 this morning. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/silverman/5978053.html Interesting read. David
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 11:03 -0400, Bastien Koert wrote: > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > If MS doesn't, then why on Earth should we? ;) > > > > Because there aren't enough high horses to go around... :-) > > > > > Just when things were getting dull with IE8 claiming better standards > support Call me a Doubting Thomas, but I wanna stick my fingers into IE8 before I believe any of their claims. Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If MS doesn't, then why on Earth should we? ;) > > Because there aren't enough high horses to go around... :-) > > -- > Richard Heyes > > HTML5 Graphing for IE7, FF, Opera and Safari: > http://www.phpguru.org/RGraph > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > Just when things were getting dull with IE8 claiming better standards support -- Bastien Cat, the other other white meat
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> If MS doesn't, then why on Earth should we? ;) Because there aren't enough high horses to go around... :-) -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for IE7, FF, Opera and Safari: http://www.phpguru.org/RGraph -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You must not remember IE 5.5 on IE and IE 5.5 on Mac. They were quite > different in annoying little places. > > Cheers, > Rob. > -- > http://www.interjinn.com > Application and Templating Framework for PHP It is pretty sweet trying to inform clients that Microsoft has stopped supporting IE on Mac. If MS doesn't, then why on Earth should we? ;) And yes, this still happens as of 2008. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 12:36 +0100, Stut wrote: > On 2 Sep 2008, at 12:34, Per Jessen wrote: > > Richard Heyes wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE, > >> Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say "browser > >> war"? > >> > > > > Can anyone say "even more money & effort wasted on testing > > webpages" :-( > > Webkit-based, so no need to add any more testing than you do now. You must not remember IE 5.5 on IE and IE 5.5 on Mac. They were quite different in annoying little places. Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On 2 Sep 2008, at 12:59, Richard Heyes wrote: Can anyone say "even more money & effort wasted on testing webpages" :-( Webkit-based, so no need to add any more testing than you do now. Are you going to take the gamble? :-) I'll decide when I can play with it and the official announcement spells out what they've modified. -Stut -- http://stut.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Richard Heyes schreef: Hi, Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE, Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say "browser war"? http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/ I've been reading this ... very well done all in all, on page 37 they say "But Google lives on the internet. It's in our interest to make the internet better and without competition we have stagnation" ... funny that, make me think of the online ad market ;-) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
> Google Chrome is not released yet, is it? > Didn't get any download link. :-S Can't find any download link. It maybe a few hours away. http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10030025-2.html -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for IE7, FF, Opera and Safari: http://www.phpguru.org/RGraph -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
>> Can anyone say "even more money & effort wasted on testing >> webpages" :-( > > Webkit-based, so no need to add any more testing than you do now. Are you going to take the gamble? :-) -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for IE7, FF, Opera and Safari: http://www.phpguru.org/RGraph -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Richard Heyes schreef: Hi, Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE, Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say "browser war"? http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/ to quote Han Solo : "I have a bad feeling about this" -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:44 PM, shiplu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Google Chrome is not released yet, is it? > Didn't get any download link. :-S > Was what i said... it's a rumor... let da thing came out and u'll see your websites after... > > -- > A K M Mokaddim > http://talk.cmyweb.net > http://twitter.com/shiplu > Stop Top Posting !! > -- Thanks for your attention, Diogo Neves Web Developer @ SAPO.pt by PrimeIT.pt
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Luke wrote: > isn't the webkit based on KHTML? > It's a fork of KHTML, yes. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Google Chrome is not released yet, is it? Didn't get any download link. :-S -- A K M Mokaddim http://talk.cmyweb.net http://twitter.com/shiplu Stop Top Posting !!
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
isn't the webkit based on KHTML? 2008/9/2 Stut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 2 Sep 2008, at 12:34, Per Jessen wrote: > >> Richard Heyes wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE, >>> Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say "browser >>> war"? >>> >>> >> Can anyone say "even more money & effort wasted on testing >> webpages" :-( >> > > Webkit-based, so no need to add any more testing than you do now. > > -Stut > > -- > http://stut.net/ > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- Luke Slater
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Stut wrote: > On 2 Sep 2008, at 12:34, Per Jessen wrote: >> Richard Heyes wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE, >>> Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say "browser >>> war"? >>> >> >> Can anyone say "even more money & effort wasted on testing >> webpages" :-( > > Webkit-based, so no need to add any more testing than you do now. > I can't help thinking that sounds just like when MS is telling us they are compatible. But it _is_ good that they're using Webkit, I'm just not sure if it really means no extra testing effort. FF3 wasn't and isn't compatible with FF2. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On 2 Sep 2008, at 12:34, Per Jessen wrote: Richard Heyes wrote: Hi, Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE, Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say "browser war"? Can anyone say "even more money & effort wasted on testing webpages" :-( Webkit-based, so no need to add any more testing than you do now. -Stut -- http://stut.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
> why not wait by the real thing is out? By the looks of it, the release is imminent. -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for IE7, FF, Opera and Safari: http://www.phpguru.org/RGraph -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
Richard Heyes wrote: > Hi, > > Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE, > Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say "browser > war"? > Can anyone say "even more money & effort wasted on testing webpages" :-( /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google Chrome
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE, > Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say "browser > war"? > > http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/ > > -- > Richard Heyes > > HTML5 Graphing for IE7, FF, Opera and Safari: > http://www.phpguru.org/RGraph > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > Hi, I have nothing against browsers, but that discussion is (maybe) better on a javascript/designer/whatever mailling... And it's only rumors... why not wait by the real thing is out? -- Thanks for your attention, Diogo Neves Web Developer @ SAPO.pt by PrimeIT.pt
[PHP] Google Chrome
Hi, Looks like Google chrome is being released today (or soon). IE, Firefox, Opera, Safari and now Chrome, hmmm, can anyone say "browser war"? http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/ -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for IE7, FF, Opera and Safari: http://www.phpguru.org/RGraph -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php