Re: [PHP] PHP POS program

[Davy Obdam]

What about this, i looked on google and found this ->

http://www.google.com/search?q=point-of-sale%20program%20+%20php&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 
 

And it also came up with : http://sourceforge.net/projects/phppointofsale/
And there are probably many more, or you could develope you own
Best regards,

Davy Obdam

Angelo Zanetti wrote:

Anyone know where I can download a demo point-of-sale program from? preferably written in php and preferably a point-of-sale designed for restaurants? any links etc will be great 

TIA

Angelo

 

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Re: [PHP] PHP POS program

[Jason Wong]

> - POS must be as simple and "stupidity proof" as possible, 

Agree.

> the other
> thing is mouse, POS must be controlled via keyboard.

Not necessarily, many POS systems use a 'soft' keyboard in the form of a touch 
screen. Such a system is easily do-able using a web interface.

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Re: [PHP] PHP POS program

[Jason Wong]

On Wednesday 16 July 2003 19:57, Angelo Zanetti wrote:
> Anyone know where I can download a demo point-of-sale program from?
> preferably written in php and preferably a point-of-sale designed for
> restaurants? any links etc will be great

freshmeat.net

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Re: [PHP] PHP POS program

[Mike Morton]

Mirek:

> - Of course, it can be done, but will U find someone, who will ever use
> it?   I've worked in a company which has about 170 supermarkets and
> small food stores and there we had a "war" with our POS software
> supplier , so I think, I can tell "I know something about it" It is much
> more complext then it seems to be. E-Commerce is about sitting at home
> and clicking mouse, shop assistants has much more stress then a person
> clicking through e-shop

Tell that to Amazon/Dell!  E-Commerce systems are not as simple as may first
appear either - but I do understand that while I may have the e-commerce
experience, you do have more POS experience than me :)

> - using php/web based interface can be BIG problem due to nature of the
> browser.

Depends on the application

> - POS is "live" system in opposition to the e-commerce which is only
> viewing stock and sending orders.

Untrue - E-commerce as you talk about it here is small shop purchasing -
e-commerce actually encompasses a much larger facet of operations from
fulfillment, CRM, loyalty, etc.

> - POS must be as simple and "stupidity proof" as possible, the other
> thing is mouse, POS must be controlled via keyboard.
> And AFAIK all POS systems, which were written under Windows had no
> succes because of the user interface. So I'm for 5 years out of this
> branche but as I can see in supermarkets, there are still good old MSDOS
> applications.

Any system should be simple and stupid proof, from a website to a CRM or
fulfillment application.  As far as POS being controlled via keyboard -
again, depends on the application.

You are talking about the point of view from a supermarket/multiple
registers, the original question was about a restaurant POS. that is a big
difference! :)

I am not saying that PHP is the be all and end all for this problem - but
what I am saying is that it CAN be done - not necessarily that it should be
done.  A better solution would be say build the interface in PHP - the back
end in MySQL (cause we all know that rocks ;) ) and the printer connection
in C or Java.

That is just my opinion, which has been proven (even on this list! ;) ) to
be wrong on occasion 

> My point of view has not much to do with PHP but with user interface, In
> php can be done very interesting things, I agree, for example I've
> written daemon using pure PHP, and it runs for 170 days continuously and
> sending e-mails from our site.
> 
>> 
>> On 7/16/03 8:25 AM, "Mirek Novak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Angelo Zanetti napsal(a):
>>> 
>>> 
 Anyone know where I can download a demo point-of-sale program from?
 preferably written in php and preferably a point-of-sale designed for
 restaurants? any links etc will be great
 
 TIA
 
 Angelo
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Re: [PHP] PHP POS program

[Mirek Novak]

CPT John W. Holmes napsal(a):
Angelo Zanetti napsal(a):


Anyone know where I can download a demo point-of-sale program from?
preferably written in php and preferably a point-of-sale designed for
restaurants? any links etc will be great

This problem (POS) is too serious to be written in PHP(via browser).
Maybe in PHP-GTK or in PHP as CLI... But I've never heard about it.



Yeah, we all know you can't write "serious" programs in PHP.

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RE: [PHP] PHP POS program

[Dan Joseph]

Hi,

> And AFAIK all POS systems, which were written under Windows had no
> succes because of the user interface. So I'm for 5 years out of this
> branche but as I can see in supermarkets, there are still good old MSDOS
> applications.

There are plenty of good windows based systems.  There are also plenty of
good web-based systems.  To say that only MS-DOS applications can do POS
properly is kind of niave.

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Re: [PHP] PHP POS program

[Mirek Novak]

Mike Morton napsal(a):

> Why is it too serious a problem?  E-Commerce sites are written in PHP -
> there is not a big difference except that the POS system does not even
> necessarily have to be online!  I think that is a bit of a short sighted
> view don't you?
> Just because you have not seen it done does not mean that it > > 
   > cannot/has not been done...
>
>I don't mean to be a prick about it -it is just that there really is no
>reason that it could not be done in php.  It is not a difficult system
> to do.

>
>
Hi,
- Of course, it can be done, but will U find someone, who will ever use 
it?   I've worked in a company which has about 170 supermarkets and 
small food stores and there we had a "war" with our POS software 
supplier , so I think, I can tell "I know something about it" It is much 
more complext then it seems to be. E-Commerce is about sitting at home 
and clicking mouse, shop assistants has much more stress then a person 
clicking through e-shop
- using php/web based interface can be BIG problem due to nature of the 
browser.
- POS is "live" system in opposition to the e-commerce which is only 
viewing stock and sending orders.
- POS must be as simple and "stupidity proof" as possible, the other 
thing is mouse, POS must be controlled via keyboard.
And AFAIK all POS systems, which were written under Windows had no 
succes because of the user interface. So I'm for 5 years out of this 
branche but as I can see in supermarkets, there are still good old MSDOS 
applications.
My point of view has not much to do with PHP but with user interface, In 
php can be done very interesting things, I agree, for example I've 
written daemon using pure PHP, and it runs for 170 days continuously and 
sending e-mails from our site.

>
> On 7/16/03 8:25 AM, "Mirek Novak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> Angelo Zanetti napsal(a):
>>
>>
>>> Anyone know where I can download a demo point-of-sale program from?
>>> preferably written in php and preferably a point-of-sale designed for
>>> restaurants? any links etc will be great
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> Angelo
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Re: [PHP] PHP POS program

[CPT John W. Holmes]

> Angelo Zanetti napsal(a):
>
> > Anyone know where I can download a demo point-of-sale program from?
preferably written in php and preferably a point-of-sale designed for
restaurants? any links etc will be great
>
> 
> This problem (POS) is too serious to be written in PHP(via browser).
> Maybe in PHP-GTK or in PHP as CLI... But I've never heard about it.
> 

Yeah, we all know you can't write "serious" programs in PHP.

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Re: [PHP] PHP POS program

[Mike Morton]

Sure - that is assuming that is how you want to print it!

And even then - given the power of PHP - surely you could do a socket
program to do it.

Anyhow - printing to a POS printer - how mandatory does that have to be?  If
we all remained slaves to how it is done in the past, then we will never
move to the future.

And BTW - there is no such thing as CANNOT be done, only that some one has
not done it yet


On 7/16/03 9:04 AM, "Andrei Verovski   (aka MacGuru)"
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> 
> On Wednesday, Jul 16, 2003, at 15:58 Europe/Helsinki, Mike Morton wrote:
> 
>> Why is it too serious a problem?  E-Commerce sites are written in PHP -
>> there is not a big difference except that the POS system does not even
>> necessarily have to be online!  I think that is a bit of a short
>> sighted
>> view don't you?
>> 
>> Just because you have not seen it done does not mean that it
>> cannot/has not
>> been done...
>> 
>> I don't mean to be a prick about it -it is just that there really is no
>> reason that it could not be done in php.  It is not a difficult system
>> to
>> do.
>> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It is NOT possible since web browser cannot print row ASCII to serial
> POS printer (PHP scripts run on server and output Web pages to client
> machines).
> 
> 
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RE: [PHP] PHP POS program

[Willem Bison]

I'm developing one actually :-)

> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: Angelo Zanetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Verzonden: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 13:57
> Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Onderwerp: [PHP] PHP POS program
> 
> 
> Anyone know where I can download a demo point-of-sale program 
> from? preferably written in php and preferably a point-of-sale 
> designed for restaurants? any links etc will be great 
> 
> TIA
> 
> Angelo
> 

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Re: [PHP] PHP POS program

[aka MacGuru]

On Wednesday, Jul 16, 2003, at 15:58 Europe/Helsinki, Mike Morton wrote:

Why is it too serious a problem?  E-Commerce sites are written in PHP -
there is not a big difference except that the POS system does not even
necessarily have to be online!  I think that is a bit of a short 
sighted
view don't you?

Just because you have not seen it done does not mean that it 
cannot/has not
been done...

I don't mean to be a prick about it -it is just that there really is no
reason that it could not be done in php.  It is not a difficult system 
to
do.

Hi,

It is NOT possible since web browser cannot print row ASCII to serial 
POS printer (PHP scripts run on server and output Web pages to client 
machines).

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Re: [PHP] PHP POS program

[Mike Morton]

Why is it too serious a problem?  E-Commerce sites are written in PHP -
there is not a big difference except that the POS system does not even
necessarily have to be online!  I think that is a bit of a short sighted
view don't you?  

Just because you have not seen it done does not mean that it cannot/has not
been done...

I don't mean to be a prick about it -it is just that there really is no
reason that it could not be done in php.  It is not a difficult system to
do.



On 7/16/03 8:25 AM, "Mirek Novak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Angelo Zanetti napsal(a):
> 
>> Anyone know where I can download a demo point-of-sale program from?
>> preferably written in php and preferably a point-of-sale designed for
>> restaurants? any links etc will be great
>> 
>> TIA
>> 
>> Angelo
>> 
> 
> This problem (POS) is too serious to be written in PHP(via browser).
> Maybe in PHP-GTK or in PHP as CLI... But I've never heard about it.
> 

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Re: [PHP] PHP POS program

[Mirek Novak]

Angelo Zanetti napsal(a):

Anyone know where I can download a demo point-of-sale program from? preferably written in php and preferably a point-of-sale designed for restaurants? any links etc will be great 

TIA

Angelo


	This problem (POS) is too serious to be written in PHP(via browser). 
Maybe in PHP-GTK or in PHP as CLI... But I've never heard about it.


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[PHP] PHP POS program

[Angelo Zanetti]

Anyone know where I can download a demo point-of-sale program from? preferably written 
in php and preferably a point-of-sale designed for restaurants? any links etc will be 
great 

TIA

Angelo