[PHP-DOC] Re: [DOC-PT-BR] Re: [PHP-DOC] SVN Account Request: kinncj
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > Thats not entirely true. > Most extensions are fairly self contained, especially the ones that > aren't consider _core_ functionality. > As long as the entity files (language-defs.ent and friends) are > translated there should be no risks, especially for an extension that > doesn't get changed frequently like cURL. The thing that you don't understand is how the pt_BR is outdated and out of sync. It is truly volatile and hacked-together. Some commits were made just to fix missing references, instead of syncing the whole affected document. Recently we had updates to the cURL extension and the build broke due to missing references. Same happened when SimpleXML was updated. Also, our build tends to break with apparently harmless EN updates. Even though cURL isn't changed frequently, there's a 2 or 3 year gap between EN and pt_BR. This applies for lot's of documents in pt_BR. We're currently fixing this, but "language" and "security" are much more important than "reference" right now.
[PHP-DOC] Re: [DOC-PT-BR] Re: [PHP-DOC] SVN Account Request: kinncj
again, please stop top-posting. See my response inline, as usual. On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Klaus Silveira wrote: > pt_BR is completely out of sync with EN, making the entire translation > effort volatile. The current focus of the translation is syncing "language" > and "security", as well other crucial parts. "reference" is our last > priority right now. > > If someone syncs "reference", either cURL or any other part of the > reference, the chance that the build will break due to non-existing entities > or references is huge. If we focus on crucial parts of the manual that are > outdated, this chance is almost none. This minimizes the effort of the Thats not entirely true. Most extensions are fairly self contained, especially the ones that aren't consider _core_ functionality. As long as the entity files (language-defs.ent and friends) are translated there should be no risks, especially for an extension that doesn't get changed frequently like cURL. > entire translation group. Accepting patches blindly and thinking any commit > is good has caused the mess that pt_BR encounters itself right now. Ofcourse. That is way there is a mailinglists which all commits are sent to so they can undergo yet another review. -Hannes
[PHP-DOC] Re: [DOC-PT-BR] Re: [PHP-DOC] SVN Account Request: kinncj
pt_BR is completely out of sync with EN, making the entire translation effort volatile. The current focus of the translation is syncing "language" and "security", as well other crucial parts. "reference" is our last priority right now. If someone syncs "reference", either cURL or any other part of the reference, the chance that the build will break due to non-existing entities or references is huge. If we focus on crucial parts of the manual that are outdated, this chance is almost none. This minimizes the effort of the entire translation group. Accepting patches blindly and thinking any commit is good has caused the mess that pt_BR encounters itself right now. On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Klaus Silveira > wrote: > > Yes, you can. You can apply patches sent by users of the online editor, > as > > long as you credit them. However, read the translation rules before any > > commit: http://wiki.php.net/doc/translations/pt_br. The most important > rule > > is: TEST before commiting. > > > > You should also read, and follow, the docs manual: > > https://wiki.php.net/doc/howto. And make sure your local build is synced > > with both EN and pt_BR. The patches currently awaiting for approval in > the > > online editor have been rejected since they break the build and are not > > following the translation rules. > > > > By the way, cURL is not the focus of pt_BR right now. > > What is, and how can I see what the focus is? o.O > > -Hannes > -- Klaus Silveira (011) 8564-2492 www.klaussilveira.com
[PHP-DOC] Re: [DOC-PT-BR] Re: [PHP-DOC] SVN Account Request: kinncj
On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Klaus Silveira wrote: > Yes, you can. You can apply patches sent by users of the online editor, as > long as you credit them. However, read the translation rules before any > commit: http://wiki.php.net/doc/translations/pt_br. The most important rule > is: TEST before commiting. > > You should also read, and follow, the docs manual: > https://wiki.php.net/doc/howto. And make sure your local build is synced > with both EN and pt_BR. The patches currently awaiting for approval in the > online editor have been rejected since they break the build and are not > following the translation rules. > > By the way, cURL is not the focus of pt_BR right now. What is, and how can I see what the focus is? o.O -Hannes
[PHP-DOC] Re: [DOC-PT-BR] Re: [PHP-DOC] SVN Account Request: kinncj
Yes, you can. You can apply patches sent by users of the online editor, as long as you credit them. However, read the translation rules before any commit: http://wiki.php.net/doc/translations/pt_br. The most important rule is: TEST before commiting. You should also read, and follow, the docs manual: https://wiki.php.net/doc/howto. And make sure your local build is synced with both EN and pt_BR. The patches currently awaiting for approval in the online editor have been rejected since they break the build and are not following the translation rules. By the way, cURL is not the focus of pt_BR right now. On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Kinn Coelho Julião wrote: > Hi hannes, > I'm finish to fix/update/translate the cURL docs to pt_BR, but I'll pay > atention to some patches and review them this week. I see u talk that we > can made reviews and merges(approve patches) over the online editor, is it > true? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 09/07/2012, at 14:13, Hannes Magnusson > wrote: > > > Hi Kinn. > > How is it going? > > > > Started reviewing and merging the outstanding patch queue? > > Or translated something yourself yet? > > > > -Hannes > > > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Hannes Magnusson > > wrote: > >> Done > >> > >> -Hannes > >> > >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Felipe Pena > wrote: > >>> 2012/6/4 Hannes Magnusson : > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Eriksen Costa < > eriksenco...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > +1 for Kinn account request. He can help a lot with all those > out-of-date and waiting for review docs. > > > I.. do not know who you are - and don't see your name on master, > sorry. > What is your php.net username? > > -Hannes > > >>> > >>> Hi, Can anyone grant the Kinn (kinncj) account? I've committed some > >>> patches from him. > >>> > >>> Thanks. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Regards, > >>> Felipe Pena > > -- > PHP Brazilian Portuguese Documentation Mailing List ( > http://php.net/manual/pt_BR/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- Klaus Silveira (011) 8564-2492 www.klaussilveira.com
[PHP-DOC] Re: [DOC-PT-BR] Re: [PHP-DOC] SVN Account Request: kinncj
Hi hannes, I'm finish to fix/update/translate the cURL docs to pt_BR, but I'll pay atention to some patches and review them this week. I see u talk that we can made reviews and merges(approve patches) over the online editor, is it true? Sent from my iPhone On 09/07/2012, at 14:13, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > Hi Kinn. > How is it going? > > Started reviewing and merging the outstanding patch queue? > Or translated something yourself yet? > > -Hannes > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Hannes Magnusson > wrote: >> Done >> >> -Hannes >> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Felipe Pena wrote: >>> 2012/6/4 Hannes Magnusson : On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Eriksen Costa wrote: > > +1 for Kinn account request. He can help a lot with all those out-of-date > and waiting for review docs. I.. do not know who you are - and don't see your name on master, sorry. What is your php.net username? -Hannes >>> >>> Hi, Can anyone grant the Kinn (kinncj) account? I've committed some >>> patches from him. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> Felipe Pena
[PHP-DOC] Re: [DOC-PT-BR] Re: [PHP-DOC] SVN Account Request: kinncj
Hi Kinn. How is it going? Started reviewing and merging the outstanding patch queue? Or translated something yourself yet? -Hannes On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > Done > > -Hannes > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Felipe Pena wrote: >> 2012/6/4 Hannes Magnusson : >>> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Eriksen Costa >>> wrote: +1 for Kinn account request. He can help a lot with all those out-of-date and waiting for review docs. >>> >>> >>> I.. do not know who you are - and don't see your name on master, sorry. >>> What is your php.net username? >>> >>> -Hannes >>> >> >> Hi, Can anyone grant the Kinn (kinncj) account? I've committed some >> patches from him. >> >> Thanks. >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Felipe Pena
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Hello PHP EN Documentation team, There are contributions within the online editor queue for this language. Please review, then commit or delete these patches. Patches for review : --- * (update) On 2012-04-23 03:40:08 by anonymous : en/reference/memcache/memcache/delete.xml * (update) On 2012-04-24 16:04:02 by anonymous : en/reference/var/functions/empty.xml * (update) On 2012-04-25 09:11:05 by anonymous : en/reference/ibase/book.xml * (update) On 2012-05-08 06:26:08 by Victor BERCHET : en/reference/session/examples.xml * (update) On 2012-05-10 03:50:27 by Dieter Adriaenssens : en/reference/taint/functions/taint.xml * (update) On 2012-06-05 00:43:09 by stelianm : en/reference/amqp/configure.xml * (update) On 2012-06-06 00:02:09 by rasmus : en/reference/pcre/pattern.syntax.xml * (update) On 2012-06-06 05:36:04 by anonymous : en/extensions.ent * (update) On 2012-06-06 05:36:14 by anonymous : en/language-defs.ent * (update) On 2012-06-06 05:43:30 by anonymous : en/reference/array/functions/sort.xml * (update) On 2012-06-06 05:43:56 by anonymous : en/reference/mysqlnd_ms/quickstart.xml * (update) On 2012-06-06 05:44:06 by anonymous : en/reference/solr/solrquery/addfilterquery.xml * (update) On 2012-06-06 05:44:12 by anonymous : en/reference/solr/solrquery/addfacetfield.xml * (update) On 2012-06-06 05:44:19 by anonymous : en/reference/sqlsrv/setup.xml * (update) On 2012-06-06 05:44:26 by anonymous : en/reference/svm/svmmodel/getsvrprobability.xml * (update) On 2012-06-06 05:46:45 by anonymous : en/reference/curl/functions/curl-setopt.xml * (update) On 2012-06-08 11:22:26 by Jimmy Tork : en/reference/mysqli/mysqli/real-escape-string.xml * (update) On 2012-06-20 05:43:54 by Ben Kuhl : en/reference/datetime/functions/date.xml * (update) On 2012-07-05 08:12:29 by anonymous : en/reference/info/functions/ini-set.xml * (update) On 2012-07-06 12:00:36 by anonymous : en/language/control-structures/for.xml -- https://edit.php.net/ This email is send automatically by the Php Docbook Online Editor.
