Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: Zend API documentation to be moved to the phpdoc repository

2004-10-13 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
I propose moving the Zend API docs to phpdoc/en/zendapi, but we need to 
make up a good folder structure. We need the XML files, but not simpler 
then Extending_Zend_xml, and we also need the figures and source 
examples in some sensible folder structure. I also don't know whether it 
would be better to move on the CVS server (retaining history), or just 
copy-add-commit-remove_on_old_file...
Why don't we stick it in phpdoc/en/chapters/zendapi and move the streams 
stuff into phpdoc/en/chapters/streams?

As for the structure relative to this directory, can't we keep the current 
directory structure on the zend site?

I'd like to see the CVS files copied across, retaining the history.
The chapters folder is silly. There is no such thing in the manual we 
call chapters. We can have an en/developers/ folder for example, where 
we put the developers docs (zend and streams for now).

Goba


Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: Zend API documentation to be moved to the phpdoc repository

2004-10-13 Thread Aidan Lister
The chapters folder is silly. There is no such thing in the manual we call 
chapters. We can have an en/developers/ folder for example, where we put 
the developers docs (zend and streams for now).

Goba
We have at the moment: PHP API: Interfaces for extension writers
(http://livedocs.homelinux.com/en/api.html)
That chapter contains the steams chapter.
http://livedocs.homelinux.com/en/streams.html
I'm not sure what the proper words are, section / chapter, whatever.
I agree we should create a section of the manual for things which don't 
apply to general users. developers sounds good to me.
phpdoc/en/developers/zend
phpdoc/en/developers/streams

Is that the only thing we have to decide? If yes, then we need to:
a) move the zend docs to proposed folder, disregarding history
b) move the stream docs to proposed folder
c) add a preface for the developer section
Anything else? 


Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: Zend API documentation to be moved to the phpdoc repository

2004-10-13 Thread Nuno Lopes
The chapters folder is silly. There is no such thing in the manual we 
call chapters. We can have an en/developers/ folder for example, where we 
put the developers docs (zend and streams for now).

Goba
We have at the moment: PHP API: Interfaces for extension writers
(http://livedocs.homelinux.com/en/api.html)
That chapter contains the steams chapter.
http://livedocs.homelinux.com/en/streams.html
I'm not sure what the proper words are, section / chapter, whatever.
I agree we should create a section of the manual for things which don't 
apply to general users. developers sounds good to me.
phpdoc/en/developers/zend
phpdoc/en/developers/streams

Is that the only thing we have to decide? If yes, then we need to:
a) move the zend docs to proposed folder, disregarding history
b) move the stream docs to proposed folder
c) add a preface for the developer section
Anything else?

Oh, yes! A lot!!
Update the Zend API stuff... :)
+1 for en/developers
Nuno 


Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: Zend API documentation to be moved to the phpdoc repository

2004-10-13 Thread Nuno Lopes
What about having sub-chapters for the API docs for each PHP
version. For example there are still PHP 3 developer docs in
the manual, the Zend API Docs are for PHP 4, and we lack PHP
5 information. This is all different so this is something to
think about.
We first need to know if there are many API changes between Zend 1 and 2.
For example, the Streams API is identical, so there is no need to replicate 
it.

Nuno 


Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: Zend API documentation to be moved to the phpdoc repository

2004-10-13 Thread Derick Rethans
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Nuno Lopes wrote:

  What about having sub-chapters for the API docs for each PHP
  version. For example there are still PHP 3 developer docs in
  the manual, the Zend API Docs are for PHP 4, and we lack PHP
  5 information. This is all different so this is something to
  think about.

 We first need to know if there are many API changes between Zend 1 and 2.
 For example, the Streams API is identical, so there is no need to replicate
 it.

Most ofphp 4 applies to php 5, except for new stuff, and oo stuff.

Derick

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Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: Zend API documentation to be moved to the phpdoc repository

2004-10-13 Thread Gabor Hojtsy
Putting streams stuff into the chapters folder was a mistake in the 
first place, since 'chapters' is depreciated, it is not supposed to have 
new files, and stuff is moved out of it to more sensible places (eg. 
install)...

Is that the only thing we have to decide? If yes, then we need to:
a) move the zend docs to proposed folder, disregarding history
b) move the stream docs to proposed folder
c) add a preface for the developer section
We might need to restructure some of the Zend docs (ie. change container 
tags) to enable smooth integration into the part structure we use 
additionaly.

Anything else?
Oh, yes! A lot!!
Update the Zend API stuff... :)
Of course :)
What about having sub-chapters for the API docs for each PHP
version. For example there are still PHP 3 developer docs in
the manual, the Zend API Docs are for PHP 4, and we lack PHP
5 information. This is all different so this is something to
think about.
Interesting question. How do we cope versioning of the development 
docs... Now the Zend API docs are even not actual for PHP 4 AFAIK. Since 
the Zend API have not changed much between Zend Engine 1 and 2, we might 
do best with a bit of separation on the OO part only.

Goba


Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: Zend API documentation to be moved to the phpdoc repository

2004-10-12 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Aidan Lister wrote:

  I propose moving the Zend API docs to phpdoc/en/zendapi, but we need to
  make up a good folder structure. We need the XML files, but not simpler
  then Extending_Zend_xml, and we also need the figures and source
  examples in some sensible folder structure. I also don't know whether it
  would be better to move on the CVS server (retaining history), or just
  copy-add-commit-remove_on_old_file...
 
  Goba

 Why don't we stick it in phpdoc/en/chapters/zendapi and move the streams
 stuff into phpdoc/en/chapters/streams?

 As for the structure relative to this directory, can't we keep the current
 directory structure on the zend site?

 I'd like to see the CVS files copied across, retaining the history.

The history is pretty much empty, so there is no good reason for doing
that.

Derick

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