Re: 3400c USB Card

[Mark Benson]

Thanks to everyone for info on this. As soon as i have a couple of 
spare pounds to rub together I'll see if I can find a Cardbus USB card 
and try it out.

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Re: 3400c USB Card

[Beverly Woods]

> Ah, we need an FAQ . . .
> 
> You don't need to ship it for an upgrade. Just buy a generic USB card
> and file the little key-slot thing off it.  Then it will fit in your
> card-cage. I got mine new from ebay for about 20 sterling.
>
> Caveats:
> 1) you'll need to use tomeviever or get the hacked installer to
> install the USB extensions from Apple.
>
> 2) You have to insert the card after booting, or it is neither
> recognised or ejectable). Which means (if you think about it) you
> have to eject it before shutting down, this is a bit of a pain.
>
> 3) You'll want to put it in the  top slot if you have any other card
> installed (e.g. modem.)   . ..  and it eventually will wiggle your
> ram card loose, giving very wierd freezes /crashes, so do open it all
> up and reseat your ram every 6 months or so!
>
>
> Its easy, I just searched the web, there are several pages on how to
> do it. I think some people on the list maintain them.
>
One of the most useful overview pages re the 3400 and USB is:

http://www.wwc.edu/~frohro/Cardbus/Cardbus.html

There are links there to download several versions of the software,
depending on your OS, etc.

Beverly


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Re: 3400c USB Card

[Tom and Lisa P]

Ah, we need an FAQ . . .
You don't need to ship it for an upgrade. Just buy a generic USB 
card and file the little key-slot thing off it.  Then it will fit in 
your card-cage. I got mine new from ebay for about 20 sterling.
I agree.  Thats what I did.  $20 on Ebay and it works fine.
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Re: 3400c USB Card

[Matthew Cowgill]

--- Mark Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  
> On Monday, August 23, 2004, at 08:38AM, VidaVerde
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Hmmm. Mine does this if I let it go to sleep with
> the USB-card left 
> >in it.
> 
> You have a USB card? What is it and where did you
> get it from? Did you have to upgrade/change the card
> cage?
> 
> I'm also in the UK and so am reluctant to ship my
> 3400c to the USA to have the card cage swapped for a
> CardBus compliant one. If you are using USB on the
> standard card cage I'd be eager to know what is is!
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I'm using a Macally Part #UH276 Cardbus to USB
adapter, didn't need to swap any cardbus cages just
shaved the card.  I didn't want it sitting in loose so
I took an exacto blade and shaved a little off at a
time until it would fit just right.  Someone on this
list had a web page with digital pictures of the
before and after.

After that I just downloaded USB update 1.4.1 from
Apple's website, installed it on a computer that had
9.2 on it... though 8.6 through 9.1 would have worked
fine.   I hear that there is a way to hack the
installer to make it work on a 3400 but thats out of
my league.  Then I just hooked up the two through
apple talk and pulled all the usb extensions to the
3400 and rebooted.  

Only things is that you have to push in the card after
the computer is booted and eject it before you shut
down but its got this big ol dongle thing that has the
usb ports on it anyway so if you actually use your
computer as a laptop and take it in and out of a bag
all the time there is no way you'd leave it in anyways
so that is a moot point.

So far I've used a smart card usb adapter to pull
digital pictures off my digital camera, though
primarily I use the card to use a 128 Meg thumb drive.
 Its the easiest way to pull files off my 3400 to use
on my other computers.  

I hooked up a Zip 650 CD/RW and it works fine as an
external drive I just don't have a new enough version
of Toast to get it to work as a burner, though it does
allow me to read my CDRW discs which I could never
read just with the internal CD-ROM.  

I haven't tried to hook up a printer to the port
because I just pull off whatever I need to print on my
thumb drive and plug it into the keyboard usb port on
one of my computers at home or work and let them take
the printing duties off my ol 3400.  Probably much
faster printing that way using the G3 or G4 processors
rather than my 603e.

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Re: 3400c USB Card

[VidaVerde]

Ah, we need an FAQ . . .
You don't need to ship it for an upgrade. Just buy a generic USB card 
and file the little key-slot thing off it.  Then it will fit in your 
card-cage. I got mine new from ebay for about 20 sterling.

Caveats:
1) you'll need to use tomeviever or get the hacked installer to 
install the USB extensions from Apple.

2) You have to insert the card after booting, or it is neither 
recognised or ejectable). Which means (if you think about it) you 
have to eject it before shutting down, this is a bit of a pain.

3) You'll want to put it in the  top slot if you have any other card 
installed (e.g. modem.)   . ..  and it eventually will wiggle your 
ram card loose, giving very wierd freezes /crashes, so do open it all 
up and reseat your ram every 6 months or so!

Its easy, I just searched the web, there are several pages on how to 
do it. I think some people on the list maintain them.

good luck
Ben

On Monday, August 23, 2004, at 08:38AM, VidaVerde 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hmmm. Mine does this if I let it go to sleep with the USB-card left
in it.
You have a USB card? What is it and where did you get it from? Did 
you have to upgrade/change the card cage?

I'm also in the UK and so am reluctant to ship my 3400c to the USA 
to have the card cage swapped for a CardBus compliant one. If you 
are using USB on the standard card cage I'd be eager to know what is 
is!

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Re: 3400c USB Card

[Mark Benson]

 
On Monday, August 23, 2004, at 08:38AM, VidaVerde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hmmm. Mine does this if I let it go to sleep with the USB-card left 
>in it.

You have a USB card? What is it and where did you get it from? Did you have to 
upgrade/change the card cage?

I'm also in the UK and so am reluctant to ship my 3400c to the USA to have the card 
cage swapped for a CardBus compliant one. If you are using USB on the standard card 
cage I'd be eager to know what is is!

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Re: Powerbook 3400C and Belkin USB Card - help!

[Dan Palka]

On Jun 23, 2004, at 10:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The 3400c (as U super-kings of the 3400 should know!) never came w/ 
the 20x
CD-rom; it came with the Kanga. Therefore, adding one to a 3400c can 
rightfully
be considered a (say it with me!)  upgrade!]
As (ahem) the undisputed king of 3400c upgrades (is over clocking to 
265mhz an upgrade?), allow me to say that this subject has been beaten 
to death.  I am very proud of my 20x Kanga CD-ROM!  Or was anyway (yes 
the 3400c is now gone - UPS-ed it today in fact) sniff sniff long live 
the 265mhz 3400c!  :(

Look, I retract my earlier statement; making 3400c cardbus-capable is 
EASY,
FUN, DO-ABLE and d-e-f-i-n-i-t-e-l-y NOT AN UPGRADE! No WAY on Earth 
is it an
upgrade! Why to even ASSUME so would be cwazzy!
You get the Way To Be Award for that one.
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And to spend time ARGUING about it, instead of addressing the original
question, is SOO worthwhile...
Yes, why ARE we arguing about this anyway?
If your 3400c is doing something that it could not do out of the box, 
its an upgraded machine.

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Re: Powerbook 3400C and Belkin USB Card - help!

[Andrew Kershaw]

<< Oh come on! When you insert something into the expansion bay, you're
using a pre-existing capability. You've made no permanent change to
the 3400 in question. (Or would you also say that attaching a mouse to
the ADB port is upgrading?) >>
Oh my goodness; Blah, blah, blah!!
The 3400c (as U super-kings of the 3400 should know!) never came w/ the 20x
CD-rom; it came with the Kanga. Therefore, adding one to a 3400c can 
rightfully
be considered a (say it with me!)  upgrade!

Nice sarcasm.  Good for you.
Here's the deal.  You aren't adding any new capability to a 3400c 
when you use CardBus cards.  The capability to work with CardBus 
cards already exists on the 3400c.  You just have to alter the cards 
to make them fit.  Your argument is like saying you're upgrading your 
car when you use snow chains on the tires instead of just using your 
lame-o all seasons.  That's a stretch.

You might be able to argue that adding USB to the 3400c is an 
upgrade, and I might buy that, but saying that simply using any 
CardBus card with a 3400c - that OUT-OF-THE-BOX can work with CardBus 
cards (with a tiny modification to the card) - is an upgrade to the 
3400c doesn't jive with me.

By the way, when you swap CD-ROM modules, you aren't upgrading your 
3400c.  You are upgrading the CD-ROM module!

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Re: Powerbook 3400C and Belkin USB Card - help!

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In a message dated 6/23/04 8:39:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Oh come on!  When you insert something into the expansion bay, you're 
using a pre-existing capability.  You've made no permanent change to 
the 3400 in question.  (Or would you also say that attaching a mouse to 
the ADB port is upgrading?) >>

Oh my goodness; Blah, blah, blah!!

The 3400c (as U super-kings of the 3400 should know!) never came w/ the 20x 
CD-rom; it came with the Kanga. Therefore, adding one to a 3400c can rightfully 
be considered a (say it with me!)  upgrade!

Look, I retract my earlier statement; making 3400c cardbus-capable is EASY, 
FUN, DO-ABLE and d-e-f-i-n-i-t-e-l-y NOT AN UPGRADE! No WAY on Earth is it an 
upgrade! Why to even ASSUME so would be cwazzy! 

And to spend time ARGUING about it, instead of addressing the original 
question, is SOO worthwhile...

Craig W.

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Re: Powerbook 3400C and Belkin USB Card - help!

[Andrew Kershaw]

The point is that you can (as is shown repeatedly on this list about 
5 or 6 times a year it seems, and can easily be found by searching 
the list archives) use a USB card in an *unmodified* 3400.
[snip]
Hopefully that puts this to bed for the next few months.
(And, to future readers that have found this message by searching 
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your answer far quicker than by posting to the list and having the 
info dribble in over the course of a day or two...)
I say it about once a month, and I'll say it again...
If we had a FAQ, many of the more frequent subjects (WiFi support, 
USB on 3400c, etc) could be well documented and referred to easily 
when questions come up.

I've already gotten a start with the 5300 FAQ that might be helpful 
for building a more universal "PowerBooks" FAQ.  I'd be more than 
happy to contribute to the FAQ content and to provide hosting space. 
;-)

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Re: Powerbook 3400C and Belkin USB Card - help!

[Eric Strobel]

On Jun 23, 2004, at 8:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Craig, to hear differently, please check out the rest of the thread. 
As
others have stated, the only modification necessary to have USB cards 
work
in the 3400 is to shave off 1/16 of an inch or so on the edge of the 
card
-not really an "upgrade."
Beverly, I read the rest of the thread; if it requires ANY 
modification AT
ALL, it is an upgrade, is it not?

When I bought a 20x CD-rom module, then put it into my 3400c's 
expansion bay
in place of the 12x CD-Rom, I am UPGRADING it from what it was before, 
right?
Even though it it required NO shaving
Oh come on!  When you insert something into the expansion bay, you're 
using a pre-existing capability.  You've made no permanent change to 
the 3400 in question.  (Or would you also say that attaching a mouse to 
the ADB port is upgrading?)

The point is that you can (as is shown repeatedly on this list about  5 
or 6 times a year it seems, and can easily be found by searching the 
list archives) use a USB card in an *unmodified* 3400.  You do, 
however, generally need to alter the end of the card in the prescribed 
manner to allow it to fit properly.  As an aside, I've got a USB card 
that I use in my 3400 and I was able to use it without modifying the 
end.  It *is* a tight fit, though, so I'd heartily recommend spending a 
few minutes with an XActo knife.  The expensive CardBus modification 
only puts in a card cage that's got the proper keying for CardBus 
cards, and provides some electronic signal isolation between cards (if 
you've got two inserted).  Note that this only comes into play on rare 
occasions when there are two high speed CardBus cards in.  Given the 
number of folk that report successfully using FireWire cards, this 
ground plane portion of the mod is apparently unnecessary in most 
common circumstances.  I suspect that most modern cards have better, 
lower power components and simply aren't as noisy.  In short, this is 
like those sports records with the asterisks -- the 3400 is fully 
CardBus capable, with the asterisk that you need to alter the keying on 
the end of the card to ensure proper function.

Hopefully that puts this to bed for the next few months.
(And, to future readers that have found this message by searching the 
archives to find out about using USB cards in the 3400, thank you for 
using the archive search feature!  You've now likely gotten your answer 
far quicker than by posting to the list and having the info dribble in 
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Re: Powerbook 3400C and Belkin USB Card - help!

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In a message dated 6/24/2004 12:14:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Craig, to hear differently, please check out the rest of the thread. As
>others have stated, the only modification necessary to have USB cards work
>in the 3400 is to shave off 1/16 of an inch or so on the edge of the card
>-not really an "upgrade."

Beverly, I read the rest of the thread; if it requires ANY modification AT 
ALL, it is an upgrade, is it not? 

When I bought a 20x CD-rom module, then put it into my 3400c's expansion bay 
in place of the 12x CD-Rom, I am UPGRADING it from what it was before, right? 
Even though it it required NO shaving

(Why nit-pick, when we're saying the same thing?)

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Re: Powerbook 3400C and Belkin USB Card - help!

[Beverly Woods]

>>Question:  I have read many cardbus vs 16 bit arguments over the last few
>>months and still am not totally sure if this card will or will not
>>definately work for me. I would appreciate your thoughts.

 Craig W. wrote:
>
> Unless I hear differently...
>
> The card mentioned in your e-mail will NOT work in your 3400c, unless it has
> previously been upgraded to handle 32-bit/cardbus PC cards.
>
> The Belkin USB card WILL add USB ports to non-usb laptops, but it requires
> that the laptop already have the ability to handle a 32-bit card.
>
> Powerbooks that can handle 32-bit PC cards (i.e., CARDBUS enabled) are the
> Wallstreet and everything after it...
>
> Powerbook 2400 and 3400s can be made to accept 32-bit/Cardbus cards with
> modification.
>
Craig, to hear differently, please check out the rest of the thread. As
others have stated, the only modification necessary to have USB cards work
in the 3400 is to shave off 1/16 of an inch or so on the edge of the card -
not really an "upgrade."

Beverly 

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Re: Powerbook 3400C and Belkin USB Card - help!

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>The Belkin USB card WILL add USB ports to non-usb laptops, but it requires 
>that the laptop already have the ability to handle a 32-bit card.
>
>Powerbooks that can handle 32-bit PC cards (i.e., CARDBUS enabled) are the 
>Wallstreet and everything after it...
>
>Powerbook 2400 and 3400s can be made to accept 32-bit/Cardbus cards with 
>modification.
>
>Any powerbook before those (Powerbook 1400, 5300 on down..) CANNOT be made 
>to 
>accept carbus, or use a cardbus/32-bit card.

The reason being the earlier PBs use a modified NuBus architecture, 
whereas these use a modified PCI architecture.

All USB and Firewire cards are using a PCI bridge chip, either separate 
or built into the external bus (USB or Firewire) controller chip.

The modification to the 2400, 3400 and 3500 (Kanga) includes, as a 
minimum, mechanically altering the PB's PCMCIA card cage so as to pass 
the Cardbus card key.

The Wallstreet was the first PB to have a true Cardbus compliant card 
cage, but there were those three earlier ones which partially supported 
Cardbus.

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Re: Powerbook 3400C and Belkin USB Card - help!

[COCCORP]

In a message dated 6/22/2004 5:10:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>Part # F5U022
>
>You don't have USB! You don't have USB! Tired of being teased? Let us help.
>With the Belkin BusPortT Mobile you can instantly add 2 USB ports to your
>Notebook PC, now you'll be the one gloating.
>Adds two USB ports to a laptop without USB capability, and provides
>additional USB ports to an existing USB system. Slides easily into the Type
>II Slot on your notebook to enable USB.
>
>. Supports 32-bit CardBus PC Card Type II Slot.
>. OHCI Compliant
>
>Question:  I have read many cardbus vs 16 bit arguments over the last few
>months and still am not totally sure if this card will or will not
>definately work for me. I would appreciate your thoughts.

Unless I hear differently...

The card mentioned in your e-mail will NOT work in your 3400c, unless it has 
previously been upgraded to handle 32-bit/cardbus PC cards.

The Belkin USB card WILL add USB ports to non-usb laptops, but it requires 
that the laptop already have the ability to handle a 32-bit card.

Powerbooks that can handle 32-bit PC cards (i.e., CARDBUS enabled) are the 
Wallstreet and everything after it...

Powerbook 2400 and 3400s can be made to accept 32-bit/Cardbus cards with 
modification.

Any powerbook before those (Powerbook 1400, 5300 on down..) CANNOT be made to 
accept carbus, or use a cardbus/32-bit card.

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Re: Powerbook 3400C and Belkin USB Card - help!

[Fabian Fang]

On Tuesday, June 22, 2004, at 02:09PM, Stephen Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>There is a card available that would add usb compatability to my powerbook
>3400c (os 9.1). 
>Question:  I have read many cardbus vs 16 bit arguments over the last few
>months and still am not totally sure if this card will or will not
>definately work for me. I would appreciate your thoughts.

Assuming that I understand your inquiry, no card will add "usb compatiblity" to your 
PowerBook.  If your PowerBook is already USB-capable, or somehow USB-enabled, then 
this or other comparable cards will enable you to connect USB devices. 

I use several Belkin Busport USB cards with PowerBook 3400c's, which already work with 
other USB cards, such as the Macally.

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Powerbook 3400C and Belkin USB Card - help!

[Stephen Barnes]

There is a card available that would add usb compatability to my powerbook
3400c (os 9.1). Here are the specs:

---

USB BusPortT Mobile

Part # F5U022

You don't have USB! You don't have USB! Tired of being teased? Let us help.
With the Belkin BusPortT Mobile you can instantly add 2 USB ports to your
Notebook PC, now you'll be the one gloating.
Adds two USB ports to a laptop without USB capability, and provides
additional USB ports to an existing USB system. Slides easily into the Type
II Slot on your notebook to enable USB.

Advantages
. Install USB capabilities into your Notebook PC or PowerBook® and instantly
connect USB devices such as printers, modems, speakers, digital cameras,
scanners, and hundreds of others.
. Adds two 12 Mbits/sec USB ports to your PC; now you can open up those
over-taxed serial and parallel ports.
. Plug-and-Play to save time and frustration during installation.
. Guaranteed to work for a lifetime!
. Compatible with Windows® 98, Windows® 2000, Windows® XP, and Mac® OS 8.6
or higher.
. Supports 32-bit CardBus PC Card Type II Slot.
. OHCI Compliant

http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=&Product_Id=20852#



Question:  I have read many cardbus vs 16 bit arguments over the last few
months and still am not totally sure if this card will or will not
definately work for me. I would appreciate your thoughts.

Stephen


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OS 9.x - 3400c - USB Card

[Patti]

Does anyone know if software or hardware for an ADS USB Cardbus Card 
will work under OS 9.x? All works on 8.6; saw an old article from Dan 
Palka that it didn't work with 9 - any new news?

Thanks,
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ADS USB Card

[Patti]

Does anyone know if the ADS USB Card can be used with OS 9.2 or 9.1 on 
a 3400c?

I have the USB software for any Mac installed on a 3400 running 8.6.

Thanks,
Patti Worden
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Re: Software for ADS USB card

[Chuck]

I'll buy a CF card this coming week. $16 is a cheap and quick fix to the
USB camera issue.
I still hope to find software for the ADS USB card for use with other
USB components.
Thank you very much for taking time to help.
Chuck


Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 11:23:05 -0500
Subject: Re: Software for ADS USB card
From: Donna Hood Pointer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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No. the PC card holder simply plugs in to the slot. No software
required. You insert your CF card into the holder, put the holder in
the slot in your Powerbook and the card (and its contents) show up on
your desktop like a hard disk or floppy disk would. The files are right
there viewable by name in a finder window. Unless you need to plug
something else USB into the computer,m you don't need USB to see your
pictures. A  flashcard holder is less than $16 at BestBuy, CompUSA, any
camera store, etc.
Donna
On Friday, April 2, 2004, at 12:47 PM, Chuck wrote:

> My camera does take a flash card but I'm presuming a PC card holder
> will be
> USB - right? and that would put me back in the position of needing to
> use
> my USB port card which has no software. Does that make sense?


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Re: Software for ADS USB card

[Chuck]

Good morning,
Thanks for taking time to try and help with my USB card issue. The link
you provided is useful in other aspects and I will download other
software from it for updates and enhancements.
I have determined that the ADS USB card was originally designed for use
with Windows machines. Apple licensed ADS to write Mac software for it
but when the card was improved up by a newer model the operating
software disappeared. I'm guessing the Apple license agreement directed
that to happen.
I was hoping someone on the list might have the ADS USB card software
from an original card purchase and could share it with me.
Thanks again for your time and effort. I'll keep plugging along with
hope of using the USB card at some point in the future.
Chuck

From: "KG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Software for ADS USB card
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 22:09:44 -0500
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I recently attained the card with hope of attaching a USB camera to my

> Kanga. I'm anxious to use this card but can't locate the necessary
> software. It's not available on the ADS web site and google doesn't
> locate it either.

I got a generic USB card working on my 3400c just by installing Apple's
USB
card support software for the classic MacOS. You can download USB Card
Support 1.4.1, hacked to support the 2400/3400/3500, here:

ftp://olympus.wwc.edu/pub/faculty/frohro/USBCardSupport1.4.1.sea.hqx


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Re: Software for ADS USB card

[Donna Hood Pointer]

No. the PC card holder simply plugs in to the slot. No software 
required. You insert your CF card into the holder, put the holder in 
the slot in your Powerbook and the card (and its contents) show up on 
your desktop like a hard disk or floppy disk would. The files are right 
there viewable by name in a finder window. Unless you need to plug 
something else USB into the computer,m you don't need USB to see your 
pictures. A  flashcard holder is less than $16 at BestBuy, CompUSA, any 
camera store, etc.
Donna
On Friday, April 2, 2004, at 12:47 PM, Chuck wrote:

My camera does take a flash card but I'm presuming a PC card holder 
will be
USB - right? and that would put me back in the position of needing to 
use
my USB port card which has no software. Does that make sense?


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Re: Software for ADS USB card

[KG]

> I recently attained the card with hope of attaching a USB camera to my
> Kanga. I'm anxious to use this card but can't locate the necessary
> software. It's not available on the ADS web site and google doesn't
> locate it either.

I got a generic USB card working on my 3400c just by installing Apple's USB
card support software for the classic MacOS. You can download USB Card
Support 1.4.1, hacked to support the 2400/3400/3500, here:

ftp://olympus.wwc.edu/pub/faculty/frohro/USBCardSupport1.4.1.sea.hqx

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Re: Software for ADS USB card

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> You have a PCMCIA slot, don't you? If your camera takes flash cards, 
> get a PC card holder. It's usually much faster to transferring directly 
> from the card than transferring from the camera. If you are trying to 
> control the shutter of your camera from the computer, then that is 
> another matter.

Plus, it is a big drain on the batteries to be transferring over USB.  Especialy if 
you are out and about on a trip or whatever and moving images to your laptop to mke 
room on the camera, you don't want to be killing your cam batteries...

B

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Re: Software for ADS USB card

[Donna Hood Pointer]

You have a PCMCIA slot, don't you? If your camera takes flash cards, 
get a PC card holder. It's usually much faster to transferring directly 
from the card than transferring from the camera. If you are trying to 
control the shutter of your camera from the computer, then that is 
another matter.

On Friday, April 2, 2004, at 11:29 PM, PowerBooks wrote:

From: Chuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Software for ADS USB card
I recently attained the card with hope of attaching a USB camera to my
Kanga. I'm anxious to use this card but can't locate the necessary
software. It's not available on the ADS web site and google doesn't
locate it either.
If someone has the software please consider sending it to me as an 
email
attachment or perhaps make arrangements for loaning the CD to me. I'll
easily cover all expenses.
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
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Software for ADS USB card

[Chuck]

I recently attained the card with hope of attaching a USB camera to my
Kanga. I'm anxious to use this card but can't locate the necessary
software. It's not available on the ADS web site and google doesn't
locate it either.
If someone has the software please consider sending it to me as an email
attachment or perhaps make arrangements for loaning the CD to me. I'll
easily cover all expenses.
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Chuck
Seattle


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OT: will Apple Pro Mouse (& KB) work with third party PCI-USB card?

[George Mogiljansky]

Please excuse my off-topic question:
will an Apple Pro Mouse (& Pro KB) work with a third
party PCI card (card already tested under OS9 & 10
using a USB WebCam) on a Beige DT?
Thanks
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the presence of the CD-Rom requires external SCSI to
be terminated to allow booting from internal drive;
a HW hacker is researching the possibility of using a
wire to terminate the HDI port (so I don't need to
attach a powered-up SCSI device) thus restoring
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usb card on system 9.1 instructions?

[kaldav]

Hi,
There was a question asked : Subject: USB
From: "D. Wakefield (DTP etc!)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Date: Fri,  3 Oct 2003
How did all of you get your shaved cardbus usb adapters to work on 
the 3400's. My 9.1 machine refuses with this exchuse: "USB Adapter 
Card Support" is not supported on this machine. Do I need "I wish I 
were"or something like that to change its id?
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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003;From: vicki duggan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi use mac id wannabe and change the gesalt id to that of a pci desktop
install the drivers for the pci usb card and you are away.
Hi use gesalt id 313 that is for the G3 powerbook and that is supported by
the card and drivers
Could anyone please tell me if "mac id wannabe" mentioned above is a 
program and if so, where can it be found or downloaded from?
I would like to use a usb card in my 3400 running system 9.1. It 
already works with system 8.6. Could someone please provide more 
specific instructions about how I do this with system 9?
Thanks very much

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Re: Can I use an Apple Pro Mouse with a third party USB card?

[George Mogiljansky]

Thanks, Andrew. I just read on the Apple Discussion
board that 10.2.8 (!) might have issues with USB.."the
drivers for non-Apple devices might need to be
updated". 
So be careful with those updates, folks!
(Powerbooks not affected, AFAIK).
George

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> I don't see why not.  I have a 3rd-party card with a
> microsoft (i 
> know, i know, shame on me;  it's Microsoft) usb
> optical mouse that 
> consumes 100ma and it works w/ os9 and X.  (On OS9
> it is a good idea 
> to use USBOverdrive, though)
> 
> 
> >Hi,
> >Can I use an Apple Pro Mouse with a third party USB
> >card? The card supplies 500 mA.
> >My question applies to any Mac, desktop as well as
> a
> >laptop.
> >Thx
> >George
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Re: Can I use an Apple Pro Mouse with a third party USB card?

[Andrew Wiens]

I don't see why not.  I have a 3rd-party card with a microsoft (i 
know, i know, shame on me;  it's Microsoft) usb optical mouse that 
consumes 100ma and it works w/ os9 and X.  (On OS9 it is a good idea 
to use USBOverdrive, though)


Hi,
Can I use an Apple Pro Mouse with a third party USB
card? The card supplies 500 mA.
My question applies to any Mac, desktop as well as a
laptop.
Thx
George
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Can I use an Apple Pro Mouse with a third party USB card?

[George Mogiljansky]

Hi, 
Can I use an Apple Pro Mouse with a third party USB
card? The card supplies 500 mA.
My question applies to any Mac, desktop as well as a
laptop.
Thx
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Re: USB Card for PowerBook 1400

[Malcolm Cornelius]

on 20/09/03 14:58, J Sand at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> What be the dif between PCMCIA and CardBus?
> 
> I have  3-5300 and am just starting to learn what I got in my $20 deal for
> the three of them.

IIRC Cardbus is a newer 32 bit card type, the 1400 or 5300 used an older 16
bit style of controller

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Re: USB Card for PowerBook 1400

[J Sand]

What be the dif between PCMCIA and CardBus?

 I have  3-5300 and am just starting to learn what I got in my $20 deal for 
the three of them.

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Re: USB Card for PowerBook 1400

[KG]

I know it's been said already, but there's no way to make a CardBus card
work in your 1400; the PCMCIA controller in the 1400 is not CardBus-capable.
You can shoehorn a CardBus card into a 2400 or 3400 because it has a
controller capable of CardBus, but unfortunately not the 1400.

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Re: USB Card for PowerBook 1400

[David Allen]

Simple answer: USB on 1400, NO The 1400 is not USB capable due to the
slot and motherboard architecture. The MB is NOT cardbus capable.

David Allen

Jean-Philippe Pellet wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have a PowerBook 1400 and an friend gave me his old Nomad Jukebox
> (yay!) because he finally bought an iPod. The Jukebox has a USB port,
> but not my 1400: what do I need in order to use it? Is there a USB card
> available that will work with this PowerBook and with my System 9? Will
> iTunes recognize the Jukebox? I have found a lot of USB 2 cards but
> they all require a CardBus slot and I'm not sure this is what I have in
> my 1400...
>
> Can you help me?
>
> TIA,
> JPP


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Re: USB Card for PowerBook 1400

[Michelle Martinez]

I haven't heard about this card. What's it called and
is it still available? 

Michelle 

> 
> The USB cards require a Cardbus machine.
> 
> IIRC, IBM made a 16-bit PCMCIA FireWire card.
> 


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Re: USB Card for PowerBook 1400

[ACFX44501]

In a message dated 9/19/03 8:26:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<
I have found a lot of USB 2 cards but 
they all require a CardBus slot and I'm not sure this is what I have in 
my 1400...
>>

The USB cards require a Cardbus machine.

IIRC, IBM made a 16-bit PCMCIA FireWire card.

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Re: USB Card for PowerBook 1400

[Malcolm Cornelius]

> Is there a USB card
> available that will work with this PowerBook and with my System 9?

This has been debated at length here - the archives will have more details -
but I believe that the received wisdom is that there are no USB cards that
will work on non-cardbus Powerbooks.

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USB Card for PowerBook 1400

[Jean-Philippe Pellet]

Hi all,

I have a PowerBook 1400 and an friend gave me his old Nomad Jukebox 
(yay!) because he finally bought an iPod. The Jukebox has a USB port, 
but not my 1400: what do I need in order to use it? Is there a USB card 
available that will work with this PowerBook and with my System 9? Will 
iTunes recognize the Jukebox? I have found a lot of USB 2 cards but 
they all require a CardBus slot and I'm not sure this is what I have in 
my 1400...

Can you help me?

TIA,
JPP
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Re: PCMCIA USB Card for the PB5300

[Clark Martin]

At 10:00 AM -0500 8/12/02, Harbison, Jason wrote:
>Is there a PCMCIA USB Card for the PB5300?  If so where can I buy it?


All the available PC Card USB interfaces are CardBus and are 
therefore incompatible with the PB5300
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PCMCIA USB Card for the PB5300

[Harbison, Jason]

Is there a PCMCIA USB Card for the PB5300?  If so where can I buy it?

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Re: USB card

[Remy Davison]

>> >Thanks so much!  i'm pleased to report that my 3400c is CardBus
>compatible
>> >according to ExtractIt!
>> The controller is - but the cage isn't. All 3400/2400/Kanga owners should
>> check out this page:
>>
>> <http://www.wwc.edu/~frohro/Cardbus/Cardbus.html>
>
>Remy, you're a consistant source of helpful data.  Thanks!
>
>hrm, so it seems if I get the proper USB card, and don't plug and replug it
>a bunch of times, it should be ok, but I probably SHOULD get the upgrade.
>(I'm loathe to be away from my baby so long though.)
>
>Thanks for the assistance.
We had a discussion on this a while ago on this list - the Macally card 
works, but some people have to sand it slightly with v. fine sandpaper to 
make it a fraction thinner, so it'll slot in easily. As Rob Frohro says, 
some cards, like ADS's, work out of the box.

THe thing to be careful of is to not force a card in and bend a pin.

We also found out here that the top slot only (IIRC) was the only one it 
would work in.

Cheers,

RD

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Re: USB card

[chris boring]

- Original Message -
From: "Remy Davison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: USB card


> >Thanks so much!  i'm pleased to report that my 3400c is CardBus
compatible
> >according to ExtractIt!
> The controller is - but the cage isn't. All 3400/2400/Kanga owners should
> check out this page:
>
> <http://www.wwc.edu/~frohro/Cardbus/Cardbus.html>

Remy, you're a consistant source of helpful data.  Thanks!

hrm, so it seems if I get the proper USB card, and don't plug and replug it
a bunch of times, it should be ok, but I probably SHOULD get the upgrade.
(I'm loathe to be away from my baby so long though.)

Thanks for the assistance.

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Re: USB card

[Remy Davison]

>Thanks so much!  i'm pleased to report that my 3400c is CardBus compatible
>according to ExtractIt!
The controller is - but the cage isn't. All 3400/2400/Kanga owners should 
check out this page:



Cheers,

RD

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Re: USB card

[chris boring]

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Subject: Re: USB card


>
http://lightningbolt.pair.com/products/extractit-for-system/product-info.htm
l
>

Thanks so much!  i'm pleased to report that my 3400c is CardBus compatible
according to ExtractIt!

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Re: USB card

[Thomas Martin]

http://lightningbolt.pair.com/products/extractit-for-system/product-info.htm
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>> Download the utility ExtractIt! and it will tell you if you are Cardbus
>> compliant or not.  It is found under Powerbook tests.
>> 
>> My 3400 says it is
>> 
> 
> Where might I find this wonderous tool?
> 
> -doktorboring
> 
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> 
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Re: USB card

[chris boring]

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Subject: Re: USB card


> Download the utility ExtractIt! and it will tell you if you are Cardbus
> compliant or not.  It is found under Powerbook tests.
>
> My 3400 says it is
>

Where might I find this wonderous tool?

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Re: USB card

[Jeff Hubatka]

Your 3400 has to be upgraded to enable CardBus - the stock machines (along
with the original G3) weren't.

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>> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 15:00:07 -0500
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (PowerBooks)
>> Subject: PowerBooks Digest #571
>> 
>> 
>> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 10:07:54 -0400
>> Subject: USB card
>> From: w miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 
>> What's the latest on USB PC cards for the 3400? I may have to replace my
>> Epson serial printer, but everything's USB now.
>> 
>> Willi


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USB card

[w miller]

What's the latest on USB PC cards for the 3400? I may have to replace my
Epson serial printer, but everything's USB now.

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