signed vs unsigned int

2010-06-02 Thread johnty
i'm reading bytes from a serial port, and storing it into an array.

each byte represents a signed 8-bit int.

currently, the code i'm looking at converts them to an unsigned int by
doing ord(array[i]). however, what i'd like is to get the _signed_
integer value. whats the easiest way to do this?

thanks in advance.

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Re: signed vs unsigned int

2010-06-02 Thread Stefan Behnel

johnty, 02.06.2010 08:43:

i'm reading bytes from a serial port, and storing it into an array.

each byte represents a signed 8-bit int.

currently, the code i'm looking at converts them to an unsigned int by
doing ord(array[i]). however, what i'd like is to get the _signed_
integer value. whats the easiest way to do this?


See the struct module, it supports various different C types.

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Re: expat parsing error

2010-06-02 Thread kak...@gmail.com
On 2 Ιούν, 03:47, John Machin sjmac...@lexicon.net wrote:
 On Jun 2, 1:57 am, kak...@gmail.com kak...@gmail.com wrote:





  On Jun 1, 11:12 am, kak...@gmail.com kak...@gmail.com wrote:

   On Jun 1, 11:09 am, John Bokma j...@castleamber.com wrote:

kak...@gmail.com kak...@gmail.com writes:
 On Jun 1, 10:34 am, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote:
 kak...@gmail.com, 01.06.2010 16:00:

  how can i fix it, how to ignore the headers and parse only
  the XML?

 Consider reading the answers you got in the last thread that you 
 opened
 with exactly this question.

 Stefan

 That's exactly, what i did but something seems to not working with the
 solutions i had, when i changed my implementation from pure Python's
 sockets to twisted library!
 That's the reason i have created a new post!
 Any ideas why this happened?

As I already explained: if you send your headers as well to any XML
parser it will choke on those, because the headers are /not/ valid /
well-formed XML. The solution is to remove the headers from your
data. As I explained before: headers are followed by one empty
line. Just remove lines up and until including the empty line, and pass
the data to any XML parser.

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   Thank you so much i'll try it!
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  Dear John can you provide me a simple working solution?
  I don't seem to get it

 You're not wrong. Trysomething like this:

 rubbish1, rubbish2, xml = your_guff.partition('\n\n')

Ok thanks a lot!
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Re: signed vs unsigned int

2010-06-02 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 23:43:33 -0700, johnty wrote:

 i'm reading bytes from a serial port, and storing it into an array.

An array or a list?


 each byte represents a signed 8-bit int.
 
 currently, the code i'm looking at converts them to an unsigned int by
 doing ord(array[i]). however, what i'd like is to get the _signed_
 integer value. whats the easiest way to do this?

 import array
 s = 'Some unsigned bytes \xc3\x80\xc3\xa0\xc3\xa6\xc3\x9f\xc2\xb5'
 array.array('b', s)
array('b', [83, 111, 109, 101, 32, 117, 110, 115, 105, 103, 110, 101, 
100, 32, 98, 121, 116, 101, 115, 32, -61, -128, -61, -96, -61, -90, -61, 
-97, -62, -75])


See also the fromstring method of array objects.


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Re: signed vs unsigned int

2010-06-02 Thread Christian Heimes
 i'm reading bytes from a serial port, and storing it into an array.
 
 each byte represents a signed 8-bit int.
 
 currently, the code i'm looking at converts them to an unsigned int by
 doing ord(array[i]). however, what i'd like is to get the _signed_
 integer value. whats the easiest way to do this?

http://docs.python.org/library/struct.html

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Re: signed vs unsigned int

2010-06-02 Thread johnty
On Jun 2, 12:04 am, Christian Heimes li...@cheimes.de wrote:
  i'm reading bytes from a serial port, and storing it into an array.

  each byte represents a signed 8-bit int.

  currently, the code i'm looking at converts them to an unsigned int by
  doing ord(array[i]). however, what i'd like is to get the _signed_
  integer value. whats the easiest way to do this?

 http://docs.python.org/library/struct.html

the struct docs is exactly what i needed to read. unpacking it as a
signed char did the trick. thanks guys!
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Python Forum

2010-06-02 Thread pyDev
Hello,

I would like to let the community know that there is a new web-based
forum for Python enthusiasts over at PythonForum.org (http://
pythonforum.org). Web-based forums is a preferred method by Python
newcomers to get help in exploring the world of Python and programming
overall. The main goal of PythonForum.org is to popularize Python by
welcoming all newcomers. Recently the forum got attacked with
questions by users just starting out with Python. I hope here will be
someone ready to welcome and help newcomers to enter the beautiful
world of Python.


Thank you,
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Mixing Decimal and float

2010-06-02 Thread B.V.
Hi,

In order to solve some issues due to operations between Decimal and
float, we wanted to implement a class that inherits from both float
and Decimal.

Typically, we wrote:
class Float(Decimal, float):
...

This can not be achieved because of a TypeError exception (with
message multiple bases have instance lay-out conflict).

With a class that inherits from Decimal, with overridden __add__,
__mul__,  , we succeed to solve operations issues.

But we also need to do:
isinstance(Float('1'), float) == True
isinstance(Float('1'), Decimal) == True
which is, AFAIK, only possible with Float(Decimal, float).

Is there a workaround ?

We are developping with python version 2.5 and 2.6.

Thanks for your help.

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Re: Python Forum

2010-06-02 Thread Simon Brunning
On 2 June 2010 09:04:56 UTC+1, pyDev einars.stra...@gmail.com wrote:
 I hope here will be
 someone ready to welcome and help newcomers to enter the beautiful
 world of Python.

Just send them here, or to
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor. We'll be happy to
help.

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Re: plac, the easiest command line arguments parser in the world

2010-06-02 Thread Tim Golden

On 02/06/2010 05:37, Michele Simionato wrote:

I would like to announce to the world the first public release of
plac:

   http://pypi.python.org/pypi/plac

Plac is a wrapper over argparse and works in all versions of
Python starting from Python 2.3 up to Python 3.1.


I like it. I'm a constant user of the

  def main (a, b=1, c=2):
# ...

  if __name__ == '__main__':
main (*sys.argv[1:])

pattern, which provides a minimally semi-self-documenting
approach for positional args, but I've always found the existing
offerings just a little too much work to bother with.
I'll give plac a run and see how it behaves.

Thanks

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Re: Python Forum

2010-06-02 Thread Stefan Behnel

pyDev, 02.06.2010 10:04:

I would like to let the community know that there is a new web-based
forum for Python enthusiasts over at PythonForum.org (http://
pythonforum.org). Web-based forums is a preferred method by Python
newcomers to get help in exploring the world of Python and programming
overall.


It's not how the English speaking community works, though. There are two 
main mailing lists (mirrored as/from newsgroups) around which the larger 
community gathers: python-list (c.l.py) and python-tutor. I doubt (or 
rather put my hope against it) that a forum will attract a critical mass of 
Python cracks to make it attractive to newbees, and I would certainly 
prefer an effort to get them into joining python-tutor instead. There is 
not much to gain from splitting the community.


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Re: plac, the easiest command line arguments parser in the world

2010-06-02 Thread Paul Rubin
Tim Golden m...@timgolden.me.uk writes:
 pattern, which provides a minimally semi-self-documenting
 approach for positional args, but I've always found the existing
 offerings just a little too much work to bother with.
 I'll give plac a run and see how it behaves.

After using optparse a couple of times I got the hang of it.  Maybe its
docs could be organized a bit better, but it does the obvious things
conveniently once you've figured it out a bit.
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Re: Python Forum

2010-06-02 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers

pyDev a écrit :

Hello,

I would like to let the community know that there is a new web-based
forum for Python enthusiasts over at PythonForum.org (http://
pythonforum.org). 


YetAnotherUselessWebForum :(


Web-based forums is a preferred method by Python
newcomers to get help


Oh yeah ? Chapter and verse, please ?

Do the world a favour : replace your whole forum with a static page 
explaining how to join the official MLs and/or c.l.py.




in exploring the world of Python and programming
overall. The main goal of PythonForum.org is to popularize Python by
welcoming all newcomers.


Newcomers have always been welcomed here. And yet another forum *where 
the helpful experts won't post nor correct wrong posts* is certainly not 
the best way to popularize Python.



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Re: Vote to Add Python Package pubsub to the Python Standard Library

2010-06-02 Thread Ben Finney
Daniel Fetchinson fetchin...@googlemail.com writes:

 A good example for the first couple of stages of this process is PEP
 3143 concerning adding a daemon package to the stdlib:
 http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3143/

Thanks for the shout-out for PEP 3143. I can certainly say that the
process Daniel describes was a very healthy one for the development of
the API in that specification. Trimming the fat from the implementation,
and delegating concerns outside the specification, was a major benefit
of going through that public discussion process.

The PEP 3143 reference implementation has a lot of happy users, who are
making use of the API to perform the tasks they need. Once I complete
the extraction of dependencies, I'll be submitting the resulting code
for inclusion in the standard library.

 I haven't found the beginning of the thread discussing this

For the process you outline, the thread where I began soliciting
feedback of the “what's the best way to do this?” kind begins at
URL:http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2008-September/560437.html.
Some later threads gave me a better idea what was required and what was
possible.

While making a reference implementation, I drafted a PEP to describe the
interface I wanted the standard library to provide. Once I had it in
good shape, and had a reference implementation ready, I submitted it and
it was registered as PEP 3143.

The first PEP 3143 discussion thread starts at
URL:http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/2009-January/002529.html.
Once I had incorporated a lot of the feedback, I fished again with
URL:http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2009-March/1197730.html.

It's annoying that many threads get broken because of poor transmission
of message references. You'll need to browse manually to get more
complete versions of some of the thread.
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Re: plac, the easiest command line arguments parser in the world

2010-06-02 Thread Michele Simionato
On Jun 2, 10:43 am, Paul Rubin no.em...@nospam.invalid wrote:
 Tim Golden m...@timgolden.me.uk writes:
  pattern, which provides a minimally semi-self-documenting
  approach for positional args, but I've always found the existing
  offerings just a little too much work to bother with.
  I'll give plac a run and see how it behaves.

 After using optparse a couple of times I got the hang of it.  Maybe its
 docs could be organized a bit better, but it does the obvious things
 conveniently once you've figured it out a bit.

Notice that optparse is basically useless in the use case Tim is
considering (positional arguments) since it only manages options.
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Re: plac, the easiest command line arguments parser in the world

2010-06-02 Thread Jean-Michel Pichavant

Michele Simionato wrote:

I would like to announce to the world the first public release of
plac:

  http://pypi.python.org/pypi/plac

Plac is a wrapper over argparse and works in all versions of
Python starting from Python 2.3 up to Python 3.1.

With blatant immodesty, plac claims to be the easiest to use command
line arguments parser module in the Python world. Its goal is to
reduce the
learning curve of argparse from hours to minutes. It does so by
removing the need to build a command line arguments parser by hand:
actually it is smart enough to infer the parser from function
annotations.

Here is a simple example (in Python 3) to wet your appetite:

$ cat example.py
def main(arg: required argument):
do something with arg
print('Got %s' % arg)

if __name__ == '__main__':
import plac; plac.call(main) # passes sys.argv[1:] to main

$ python example.py -h
usage: example.py [-h] arg

do something with arg

positional arguments:
  arg required argument

optional arguments:
  -h, --help  show this help message and exit


$ python example.py
usage: example.py [-h] arg
example.py: error: too few arguments

$  python example.py arg
Got arg

$  python example.py arg1 arg2
usage: example.py [-h] arg
example.py: error: unrecognized arguments: arg2

You can find in the documentation a lot of other simple and not so
simple
examples:

  http://micheles.googlecode.com/hg/plac/doc/plac.html


Enjoy!

 Michele Simionato

P.S. answering an unspoken question: yes, we really needed yet
another
command line arguments parser! ;)
  

Thanks for participating.

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Re: Drawing Multigraphs

2010-06-02 Thread Richard Brodie

geremy condra debat...@gmail.com wrote in message 
news:mailman.825.1275414239.32709.python-l...@python.org...

 On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Nima nima@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi there,
 Is it possible to draw an (undirected) multigraph using a python library?
 I need to write a program that finds an Eulerian circuit in a graph
 (which might obviously be a multigraph). As the output of the program,
 I should draw the graph and print out the solution.

 We use Dot in Graphine, and it works well. It's also very easy to
 output to.

NetworkX apparently has dot bindings built-in, although I've not
used it, so I think one should just be able to export to it. 


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Re: plac, the easiest command line arguments parser in the world

2010-06-02 Thread Stefan Behnel

Paul Rubin, 02.06.2010 10:43:

Tim Golden writes:

pattern, which provides a minimally semi-self-documenting
approach for positional args, but I've always found the existing
offerings just a little too much work to bother with.
I'll give plac a run and see how it behaves.


After using optparse a couple of times I got the hang of it.  Maybe its
docs could be organized a bit better, but it does the obvious things
conveniently once you've figured it out a bit.


Same from here. I managed to talk a Java-drilled collegue of mine into 
writing a Python script for a little command line utility, but he needed a 
way to organise his argument extraction code when the number of arguments 
started to grow beyond two. I told him that there were two ways to do it: 
do it by hand or do it right. He took the right choice and I took him to 
the optparse docs, copied the first example into his code and we adapted it 
a little. He just loved the beauty of it.


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Re: plac, the easiest command line arguments parser in the world

2010-06-02 Thread Michele Simionato
On Jun 2, 11:01 am, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote:
 I managed to talk a Java-drilled collegue of mine into
 writing a Python script for a little command line utility, but he needed a
 way to organise his argument extraction code when the number of arguments
 started to grow beyond two. I told him that there were two ways to do it:
 do it by hand or do it right. He took the right choice and I took him to
 the optparse docs, copied the first example into his code and we adapted it
 a little. He just loved the beauty of it.

Could you show plac to your friend? I would be curious to know what he
think.
Perhaps he would call out his judgment on optparse ;)

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Re: Vote to Add Python Package pubsub to the Python Standard Library

2010-06-02 Thread Gabriele Lanaro
I definitvely vote for adding such a package to the stdlib (or at least a
symilar publish/subscrive and observer implementation). It's useful in a
wide range of programs.


2010/6/2 Carl Banks pavlovevide...@gmail.com

 On May 26, 4:26 am, Tom tom.brow...@gmail.com wrote:
  I vote for adding the Python package pubsub to the Python standard
  library.  It has recently been added to wxpython (replacing the old
  wx.lib.pubsub package), but it has application to non-gui programs as
  well.


 Well, I can definitely see a case for adding something like this to
 the standard library.  If there is a standard publish-subscribe
 implementation, then different third-party packages can use it in a
 consistent way together.  It can open whole paradigms of package
 integration.

 However, I'm not sure this particular library is the one to use, and I
 would not be in favor of throwing the first publish-subscribe
 implentation that comes by into the standard library, at least not
 without a whole lot of vetting first.  (They did that with optparse
 and the Python community has been paying for it ever since.)

 I think it has a pretty good chance of being accepted, too.  The
 publish-subscribe pattern, if you will, seems to have been implemented
 separately in many places.  The logging module in the standard library
 uses something like this.  Qt's signal/slot mechanism is another
 variation.  I'm sure there's lots more.  I've noticed that pointing
 out lots of independetnly crafted examples in the wild, and especially
 in the standard library, works quite well.


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Re: Python Forum

2010-06-02 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 10:44 +0200, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote:
 pyDev a écrit :
  Hello,
  I would like to let the community know that there is a new web-based
  forum for Python enthusiasts over at PythonForum.org (http://
  pythonforum.org). 
 YetAnotherUselessWebForum :(

+1

Yuck; no better way to make new users hate your product than have a web
forum - where they post questions and never get answers... because
the people with the answers are over on the much-easier-to-use mailist
[what an awesome feature:  the questions just show up in my INBOX!
Sweet.].

  Web-based forums is a preferred method by Python
  newcomers to get help
 Oh yeah ? Chapter and verse, please 
 Do the world a favour : replace your whole forum with a static page 
 explaining how to join the official MLs and/or c.l.py.
  in exploring the world of Python and programming
  overall. The main goal of PythonForum.org is to popularize Python by
  welcoming all newcomers.
 Newcomers have always been welcomed here. And yet another forum *where 
 the helpful experts won't post nor correct wrong posts* is certainly not 
 the best way to popularize Python.

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Re: Mixing Decimal and float

2010-06-02 Thread Mark Dickinson
On Jun 2, 9:24 am, B.V. bv.try...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 In order to solve some issues due to operations between Decimal and
 float, we wanted to implement a class that inherits from both float
 and Decimal.

 Typically, we wrote:

 class Float(Decimal, float):

Can you explain exactly what issues you want to solve, and how you
want your Float class to behave?  Do I understand correctly that you
want your Float class to be able to represent both floats and
Decimals?

 But we also need to do:
 isinstance(Float('1'), float) == True
 isinstance(Float('1'), Decimal) == True

Can you explain why you need this?

Should isinstance(Float('1.1'), float) and isinstance(Float('1.1'),
Decimal) also both be true, or would only one of those be true?  (And
by the way, what value would Float('1.1') have?  float('1.1') and
Decimal('1.1') are different values.)

I don't think your approach can succeed;  I'd suggest just subclassing
'object' and abandoning the 'isinstance' requirements.  Or perhaps
creating a subclass of Decimal that interacts nicely with floats.  You
might also want to investigate the numbers ABC, though that's new in
Python 2.6.

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optional optional args vs optional positional options

2010-06-02 Thread Antoine Pitrou
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:49:18 -0700 (PDT)
Michele Simionato michele.simion...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Notice that optparse is basically useless in the use case Tim is
 considering (positional arguments) since it only manages options.

By the way, could you stop naming these optional arguments, since
positional arguments can be optional as well? It is confusing :)

Thanks

Antoine.


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Re: optional optional args vs optional positional options

2010-06-02 Thread Tim Golden

On 02/06/2010 11:42, Antoine Pitrou wrote:

On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:49:18 -0700 (PDT)
Michele Simionatomichele.simion...@gmail.com  wrote:


Notice that optparse is basically useless in the use case Tim is
considering (positional arguments) since it only manages options.


By the way, could you stop naming these optional arguments, since
positional arguments can be optional as well? It is confusing :)


The great thing with English is that you can use nouns as
adjectives without changing them, so you can say option arguments
and position arguments quite happily here :)

But then you run into the fact that you're having semantic arguments
about argument semantics :(

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Re: signed vs unsigned int

2010-06-02 Thread John Machin
On Jun 2, 4:43 pm, johnty johntyw...@gmail.com wrote:
 i'm reading bytes from a serial port, and storing it into an array.

 each byte represents a signed 8-bit int.

 currently, the code i'm looking at converts them to an unsigned int by
 doing ord(array[i]). however, what i'd like is to get the _signed_
 integer value. whats the easiest way to do this?

signed = unsigned if unsigned = 127 else unsigned - 256
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Opinion On Best Way...

2010-06-02 Thread Victor Subervi
Hi;
I have a script in which I currently pass a number of variables to another
script through the url in a meta http-equiv tag. This seems both awkward and
hackable. I think it would be best to create a temporary mysql table, insert
them there, and pull them from the following script. The situation is where
a purchaser places an item in my shopping cart. A script is called that
simply pushes the data to the cart script. The reason for this step is to
ensure that when the cart script calls itself (in the form tag) through an
update to either update or delete items, the last cached items aren't
re-added to the shopping cart. What are your thoughts on the best way to
preserve the data from script to script?
TIA.
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Re: Mixing Decimal and float

2010-06-02 Thread B.V.
On Jun 2, 12:22 pm, Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Jun 2, 9:24 am, B.V. bv.try...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,

  In order to solve some issues due to operations between Decimal and
  float, we wanted to implement a class that inherits from both float
  and Decimal.

  Typically, we wrote:

  class Float(Decimal, float):

 Can you explain exactly what issues you want to solve, and how you
 want your Float class to behave?  Do I understand correctly that you
 want your Float class to be able to represent both floats and
 Decimals?

Let me give you the whole story. We work on Tryton, an client/server
application framework written in Python (http://www.tryton.org).
The framework defines several types of fields within its own ORM
(http://doc.tryton.org/1.6/trytond/doc/ref/models/fields.html#ref-
models-fields); among those types, there's a fields.Float type -- not
to be confused with the class Float we are talking about -- (with
underlying python type float) and fields.Numeric (with underlying
python type Decimal).
fields.Numeric(Decimal) where implemented at the beginning of the fork
(Tryton is a fork of OpenERP, formerly known as TinyERP), because the
use of floats in OpenERP leads many problems in module handling
financial data.

The client is written in pygtk. The client connects the server through
a specific (but simple) protocol called pysocket (roughly pickled data
over sockets).
In an application, you may define objects with both Numeric or Float
attributes, and when you need to make them interact, you have to cast.
And everything is fine.

But trying to be open to other languages, the server implements also
an XMLRPC interface (and also a JSONRPC-like interface). That's the
key point: Decimal is python specific. So in an application, you can't
rely on the value received from a client, because depending on the
protocol, the type of the value is different.
So the idea was to create a class that can behave like a Decimal or a
float depending on the context, and set
xmlrpclib.Unmarshaller.dispatch[double] to a function that return a
Float instance.

A contributor filed an issue on the bug tracker (https://
bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1575) and because he's a nice guy (ok
it's a friend of mine), he made a patch proposal (http://
codereview.appspot.com/1387041). The end of the story is in the
comments of the proposal.


  But we also need to do:
  isinstance(Float('1'), float) == True
  isinstance(Float('1'), Decimal) == True

 Can you explain why you need this?

It's a requirement of the project leader.


 Should isinstance(Float('1.1'), float) and isinstance(Float('1.1'),
 Decimal) also both be true, or would only one of those be true?  (And
 by the way, what value would Float('1.1') have?  float('1.1') and
 Decimal('1.1') are different values.)

I think they both should be True, for '1', '1.1', '0', '0.1', ...
For the value, I would say that it depends of the definition of the
field (fields.Float or fields.Numeric).



 I don't think your approach can succeed;  I'd suggest just subclassing
 'object' and abandoning the 'isinstance' requirements.  Or perhaps
 creating a subclass of Decimal that interacts nicely with floats.  You
 might also want to investigate the numbers ABC, though that's new in
 Python 2.6.

First, Float implementation was a subclass of Decimal that works with
floats, and solves many (maybe all) problems. But as you may read in
the comments of the patch proposal, it seems to be not enough.

B.

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functools.wraps and help()

2010-06-02 Thread Ulrich Eckhardt
Hi!

When I use help() on a function, it displays the arguments of the function,
along with the docstring. However, when wrapping the function using
functools.wraps it only displays the arguments that the (internal) wrapper
function takes, which is typically *args, **kwargs, which isn't very
useful.

Any suggestions how to fix that? Is that even a bug or a systematic
limitation? In case of the latter, should the documentation for
functools.wraps mention it?

Cheers!

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Re: functools.wraps and help()

2010-06-02 Thread Michele Simionato
On Jun 2, 2:20 pm, Ulrich Eckhardt eckha...@satorlaser.com wrote:
 Hi!

 When I use help() on a function, it displays the arguments of the function,
 along with the docstring. However, when wrapping the function using
 functools.wraps it only displays the arguments that the (internal) wrapper
 function takes, which is typically *args, **kwargs, which isn't very
 useful.

 Any suggestions how to fix that? Is that even a bug or a systematic
 limitation? In case of the latter, should the documentation for
 functools.wraps mention it?

See http://pypi.python.org/pypi/decorator
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Re: optional optional args vs optional positional options

2010-06-02 Thread J. Cliff Dyer
+1  

Options are options, arguments are arguments.  An optional argument is
not an option.  It is an argument that can be left out.



On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 12:42 +0200, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
 On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:49:18 -0700 (PDT)
 Michele Simionato michele.simion...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  Notice that optparse is basically useless in the use case Tim is
  considering (positional arguments) since it only manages options.
 
 By the way, could you stop naming these optional arguments, since
 positional arguments can be optional as well? It is confusing :)
 
 Thanks
 
 Antoine.
 
 


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Re: plac, the easiest command line arguments parser in the world

2010-06-02 Thread Michele Simionato
On Jun 2, 6:37 am, Michele Simionato michele.simion...@gmail.com
wrote:
 With blatant immodesty, plac claims to be the easiest to use command
 line arguments parser module in the Python world

It seems I have to take that claim back. A few hours after the
announce I was pointed out to http://pypi.python.org/pypi/CLIArgs
which, I must concede, is even easier to use than plac. It seems
everybody has written its own command line arguments parser!
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Re: Mixing Decimal and float

2010-06-02 Thread Terry Reedy

On 6/2/2010 8:17 AM, B.V. wrote:


A contributor filed an issue on the bug tracker (https://
bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1575) and because he's a nice guy (ok
it's a friend of mine), he made a patch proposal (http://
codereview.appspot.com/1387041). The end of the story is in the
comments of the proposal.


I have no idea how to do what you want. But for future reference, links 
put in running email/newsgroup text as above are not very usable for 
most readers. They are best put on a line *by themselves*. Then they can 
be clicked on in at least some mail/newsgroup readers, or at worst, 
copied and pasted to a browser. Reformatted to be more usable:


A contributor filed an issue on the bug tracker
https://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1575
and because he's a nice guy (ok
it's a friend of mine), he made a patch proposal
http://codereview.appspot.com/1387041
The end of the story is in the comments of the proposal.

Terry Jan Reedy

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Re: python and filter design: calculating s optimal transform

2010-06-02 Thread cassiope
On Jun 1, 2:58 pm, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
 On 6/1/2010 2:18 PM, robert somerville wrote:

  Hi;
  this is an airy question.

  does anybody have some code or ideas on how to calculate the optimal S
  transform of user specified order (wanting the coefficients)  for a
  published filter response curve, ie.

  f(s) = 1.0/(a1*S^2 + a2*S + a3)

 If you do not get an answer here, try the scipy list.

Say what

There are tables of coefficients for Butterworth, Bessel, and other
standard filter forms.
Could you be a little clearer on what you're trying to do?
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Properly posting links (was Re: Python Forum)

2010-06-02 Thread Terry Reedy

On 6/2/2010 4:04 AM, pyDev wrote:


forum for Python enthusiasts over at PythonForum.org (http://
pythonforum.org). Web-based forums is a preferred method by Python


This is the second time today I have read a post with a useless link 
wrapped over two lines. Email lists and newsgroups (this is both) are 
text, not html based. Put a link on one line by itself, with no 
punctuation. The above, if posted at all, should have been


forum for Python enthusiasts over at PythonForum.org.
http://pythonforum.org
Web-based forums is a preferred method by Python

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Re: Mixing Decimal and float

2010-06-02 Thread B.V.
On 2 juin, 17:08, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
 On 6/2/2010 8:17 AM, B.V. wrote:

  A contributor filed an issue on the bug tracker (https://
  bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1575) and because he's a nice guy (ok
  it's a friend of mine), he made a patch proposal (http://
  codereview.appspot.com/1387041). The end of the story is in the
  comments of the proposal.

 I have no idea how to do what you want. But for future reference, links
 put in running email/newsgroup text as above are not very usable for
 most readers. They are best put on a line *by themselves*. Then they can
 be clicked on in at least some mail/newsgroup readers, or at worst,
 copied and pasted to a browser. Reformatted to be more usable:

 A contributor filed an issue on the bug 
 trackerhttps://bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1575
 and because he's a nice guy (ok
 it's a friend of mine), he made a patch 
 proposalhttp://codereview.appspot.com/1387041
 The end of the story is in the comments of the proposal.

 Terry Jan Reedy

Thank you for your remarks, my next posts will in accordance.

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decorating a memberfunction

2010-06-02 Thread Ulrich Eckhardt
Hi!

I have a class that maintains a network connection, which can be used to
query and trigger Things(tm). Apart from normal errors, a broken network
connection and a protocol violation from the peer are something we can't
recover from without creating a new connection, so those errors
should stick.

The code looks roughly like this:

class Client(object):
def __init__(self, ...):
self._error = None

def _check(fn):
def do_check(self, *args, **kwargs):
# check for sticky error
if self._error:
raise self._error

try:
fn(self, *args, **kwargs)
except NetworkError, e:
self._error = e
raise
except ProtocolError, e:
self._error = e
raise
return do_check

@_check
def frobnicate(self, foo):
# format and send request, read and parse answer

So, any function like frobnicate() that does things is decorated with
_check() so that unrecoverable errors stick. I hope I didn't shorten the
code too much to understand the principle, in particular I'm using
functools.wraps() in order to retain function names and docstrings.


Is this sound? Would you have done it differently? Any other suggestions?
What I'm mostly unsure about is whether the definition of _check() and
do_check() are correct or could be improved.


Thanks!

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Re: decorating a memberfunction

2010-06-02 Thread MRAB

Ulrich Eckhardt wrote:

Hi!

I have a class that maintains a network connection, which can be used to
query and trigger Things(tm). Apart from normal errors, a broken network
connection and a protocol violation from the peer are something we can't
recover from without creating a new connection, so those errors
should stick.

The code looks roughly like this:

class Client(object):
def __init__(self, ...):
self._error = None

def _check(fn):
def do_check(self, *args, **kwargs):
# check for sticky error
if self._error:
raise self._error

try:
fn(self, *args, **kwargs)
except NetworkError, e:
self._error = e
raise
except ProtocolError, e:
self._error = e
raise
return do_check

@_check
def frobnicate(self, foo):
# format and send request, read and parse answer

So, any function like frobnicate() that does things is decorated with
_check() so that unrecoverable errors stick. I hope I didn't shorten the
code too much to understand the principle, in particular I'm using
functools.wraps() in order to retain function names and docstrings.


Is this sound? Would you have done it differently? Any other suggestions?
What I'm mostly unsure about is whether the definition of _check() and
do_check() are correct or could be improved.


You could merge the two excepts:

try:
fn(self, *args, **kwargs)
except (NetworkError, ProtocolError), e:
self._error = e
raise

You could also choose a better name for the decorator, eg
_check_sticky_error. :-)
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2010-06-02 Thread money mania
Simple hack to get $500 to your home at http://dailyupdatesonly.tk

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Syntax question

2010-06-02 Thread pmz
Dear Group,

It's really rookie question, but I'm currently helping my wife in some
python-cases, where I'm non-python developer and some of syntax-diffs
make me a bit confused.

Could anyone give some light on line, as following:
ds = d[:]  ### where 'd' is an array

Let me guess, is it a declaration of two-dimension array?

Thanks a lot for help and all the best,
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Re: Syntax question

2010-06-02 Thread Chris Rebert
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:40 AM, pmz przemek.zaw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Group,

 It's really rookie question, but I'm currently helping my wife in some
 python-cases, where I'm non-python developer and some of syntax-diffs
 make me a bit confused.

 Could anyone give some light on line, as following:
 ds = d[:]  ### where 'd' is an array

 Let me guess, is it a declaration of two-dimension array?

Nope; Python doesn't really have variable declarations.*
That line of code copies the list `d` ( `[]` is the slicing operator,
and the colon indicates the bounds are the entire list; this is a
Python idiom) and assigns the copy to the variable `ds`. Note that the
copying is shallow (i.e. not recursive, only 1 level deep).

*Well, almost: There are `global` and `nonlocal`, but they're only
needed to specify a variable's scope in certain circumstances when you
want to be able to assign to said variable.

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Re: Syntax question

2010-06-02 Thread geremy condra
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:40 AM, pmz przemek.zaw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Group,

 It's really rookie question, but I'm currently helping my wife in some
 python-cases, where I'm non-python developer and some of syntax-diffs
 make me a bit confused.

 Could anyone give some light on line, as following:
 ds = d[:]  ### where 'd' is an array

I'm guessing you mean that d is a list. The square
braces with the colon is python's slicing notation,
so if I say [1,2,3,4][0] I get a 1 back, and if I say
[1,2,3,4][1:4] I get [2,3,4]. Python also allows a
shorthand in slicing, which is that if the first index
is not provided, then it assumes 0, and that if the
second index is not provided, it assumes the end
of the list. Thus, [1,2,3,4][:2] would give me [1,2]
and [1,2,3,4][2:] would give me [3, 4]. Here, neither
has been provided, so the slice simply takes the
items in the list from beginning to end and returns
them- [1,2,3,4][:] gives [1,2,3,4].

The reason someone would want to do this is
because lists are mutable data structures. If you
fire up your terminal you can try the following
example:

 a = [1,2,3,4]
 b = a
 c = [:]
 b[0] = 5
 b
[5,2,3,4]
 # here's the issue
 a
[5,2,3,4]
 # and the resolution
 c
[1,2,3,4]

Hope this helps.

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Re: Syntax question

2010-06-02 Thread pmz
On 2 Cze, 19:56, geremy condra debat...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:40 AM, pmz przemek.zaw...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear Group,

  It's really rookie question, but I'm currently helping my wife in some
  python-cases, where I'm non-python developer and some of syntax-diffs
  make me a bit confused.

  Could anyone give some light on line, as following:
  ds = d[:]  ### where 'd' is an array

 I'm guessing you mean that d is a list. The square
 braces with the colon is python's slicing notation,
 so if I say [1,2,3,4][0] I get a 1 back, and if I say
 [1,2,3,4][1:4] I get [2,3,4]. Python also allows a
 shorthand in slicing, which is that if the first index
 is not provided, then it assumes 0, and that if the
 second index is not provided, it assumes the end
 of the list. Thus, [1,2,3,4][:2] would give me [1,2]
 and [1,2,3,4][2:] would give me [3, 4]. Here, neither
 has been provided, so the slice simply takes the
 items in the list from beginning to end and returns
 them- [1,2,3,4][:] gives [1,2,3,4].

 The reason someone would want to do this is
 because lists are mutable data structures. If you
 fire up your terminal you can try the following
 example:

  a = [1,2,3,4]
  b = a
  c = [:]
  b[0] = 5
  b
 [5,2,3,4]
  # here's the issue
  a
 [5,2,3,4]
  # and the resolution
  c

 [1,2,3,4]

 Hope this helps.

 Geremy Condra

Thank you for such fast answer! I quite catch, but:
As I see, the d[:] is equal to sentence get the d array from the
first to the last element? :)

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Re: Syntax question

2010-06-02 Thread Matteo Landi
Anyway I suggest you to use a syntax like:

b = list(a)

in order to copy a list, it should be better than slicing.

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:56 PM, geremy condra debat...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:40 AM, pmz przemek.zaw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Group,

 It's really rookie question, but I'm currently helping my wife in some
 python-cases, where I'm non-python developer and some of syntax-diffs
 make me a bit confused.

 Could anyone give some light on line, as following:
 ds = d[:]  ### where 'd' is an array

 I'm guessing you mean that d is a list. The square
 braces with the colon is python's slicing notation,
 so if I say [1,2,3,4][0] I get a 1 back, and if I say
 [1,2,3,4][1:4] I get [2,3,4]. Python also allows a
 shorthand in slicing, which is that if the first index
 is not provided, then it assumes 0, and that if the
 second index is not provided, it assumes the end
 of the list. Thus, [1,2,3,4][:2] would give me [1,2]
 and [1,2,3,4][2:] would give me [3, 4]. Here, neither
 has been provided, so the slice simply takes the
 items in the list from beginning to end and returns
 them- [1,2,3,4][:] gives [1,2,3,4].

 The reason someone would want to do this is
 because lists are mutable data structures. If you
 fire up your terminal you can try the following
 example:

 a = [1,2,3,4]
 b = a
 c = [:]
 b[0] = 5
 b
 [5,2,3,4]
 # here's the issue
 a
 [5,2,3,4]
 # and the resolution
 c
 [1,2,3,4]

 Hope this helps.

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Re: Syntax question

2010-06-02 Thread Matteo Landi
Yes it is; d[i:j] is equal to give me the array from the d[i] to d[j
- 1], and if you omit i and j then the i and j are respectively
assumed as 0 and len(d) - 1.

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:01 PM, pmz przemek.zaw...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2 Cze, 19:56, geremy condra debat...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:40 AM, pmz przemek.zaw...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear Group,

  It's really rookie question, but I'm currently helping my wife in some
  python-cases, where I'm non-python developer and some of syntax-diffs
  make me a bit confused.

  Could anyone give some light on line, as following:
  ds = d[:]  ### where 'd' is an array

 I'm guessing you mean that d is a list. The square
 braces with the colon is python's slicing notation,
 so if I say [1,2,3,4][0] I get a 1 back, and if I say
 [1,2,3,4][1:4] I get [2,3,4]. Python also allows a
 shorthand in slicing, which is that if the first index
 is not provided, then it assumes 0, and that if the
 second index is not provided, it assumes the end
 of the list. Thus, [1,2,3,4][:2] would give me [1,2]
 and [1,2,3,4][2:] would give me [3, 4]. Here, neither
 has been provided, so the slice simply takes the
 items in the list from beginning to end and returns
 them- [1,2,3,4][:] gives [1,2,3,4].

 The reason someone would want to do this is
 because lists are mutable data structures. If you
 fire up your terminal you can try the following
 example:

  a = [1,2,3,4]
  b = a
  c = [:]
  b[0] = 5
  b
 [5,2,3,4]
  # here's the issue
  a
 [5,2,3,4]
  # and the resolution
  c

 [1,2,3,4]

 Hope this helps.

 Geremy Condra

 Thank you for such fast answer! I quite catch, but:
 As I see, the d[:] is equal to sentence get the d array from the
 first to the last element? :)

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Re: Syntax question

2010-06-02 Thread pmz
On 2 Cze, 20:07, Matteo Landi landima...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anyway I suggest you to use a syntax like:

 b = list(a)

 in order to copy a list, it should be better than slicing.





 On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:56 PM, geremy condra debat...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:40 AM, pmz przemek.zaw...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dear Group,

  It's really rookie question, but I'm currently helping my wife in some
  python-cases, where I'm non-python developer and some of syntax-diffs
  make me a bit confused.

  Could anyone give some light on line, as following:
  ds = d[:]  ### where 'd' is an array

  I'm guessing you mean that d is a list. The square
  braces with the colon is python's slicing notation,
  so if I say [1,2,3,4][0] I get a 1 back, and if I say
  [1,2,3,4][1:4] I get [2,3,4]. Python also allows a
  shorthand in slicing, which is that if the first index
  is not provided, then it assumes 0, and that if the
  second index is not provided, it assumes the end
  of the list. Thus, [1,2,3,4][:2] would give me [1,2]
  and [1,2,3,4][2:] would give me [3, 4]. Here, neither
  has been provided, so the slice simply takes the
  items in the list from beginning to end and returns
  them- [1,2,3,4][:] gives [1,2,3,4].

  The reason someone would want to do this is
  because lists are mutable data structures. If you
  fire up your terminal you can try the following
  example:

  a = [1,2,3,4]
  b = a
  c = [:]
  b[0] = 5
  b
  [5,2,3,4]
  # here's the issue
  a
  [5,2,3,4]
  # and the resolution
  c
  [1,2,3,4]

  Hope this helps.

  Geremy Condra
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In fact, that ain't my syntax, I'd rather use C++ for that project,
because that's my world is not Python, but thank you anyway for help -
I see that Python also has many fans and friends online :) I'll try
help her using your explanations.

THANK you again and all the best,
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Re: multiprocessing and accessing server's stdout

2010-06-02 Thread Bryan
Tim Arnold wrote:
 Hi, This is the setup I was asking about.
 I've got users using a python-written command line client. They're
 requesting services from a remote server that fires a LaTeX process. I
 want them to see the stdout from the LaTeX process.

So what you really need is to capture the output of a command, in this
case LaTeX, so you can copy it back to the client. You can do that
with the subprocess module in the Python standard library.

If the command generated so much output so fast that you felt the need
to avoid the extra copy, I suppose you could fork() then hook stdout
directly to socket connected to the client with dup2(), then exec()
the command. But no need for that just to capture LaTeX's output.


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Re: MySQLDB - server has gone on blob insertion...

2010-06-02 Thread Rami Chowdhury
On Tuesday 01 June 2010 12:46:40 John Nagle wrote:
 durumdara wrote:
  When I tried to start this, I got error:
  _mysql_exceptions.OperationalError: (2006, 'MySQL server has gone
  away')
 
 Are you by any chance trying to do this on a HostGator account?
 HostGator servers run a program which kills long MySQL transactions
 by executing MySQL KILL transactions.
 This is reported to the user as 'MySQL server has gone away'

I don't think HostGator is alone in this -- AFAIK several web hosts (including 
mine) do it too.



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Re: Mixing Decimal and float

2010-06-02 Thread I V
On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 05:17:11 -0700, B.V. wrote:
 But trying to be open to other languages, the server implements also an
 XMLRPC interface (and also a JSONRPC-like interface). That's the key
 point: Decimal is python specific. So in an application, you can't rely
 on the value received from a client, because depending on the protocol,
 the type of the value is different. So the idea was to create a class
 that can behave like a Decimal or a float depending on the context, and
 set xmlrpclib.Unmarshaller.dispatch[double] to a function that return
 a Float instance.

Looking at the Tryton docs, it seems that it already supports field types 
that can't be directly represented in XMLRPC or JSON, like BigInteger or 
Selection. How are these serialized over the non-python RPC mechanisms? 
Could you not do the same for Decimals?
 
 A contributor filed an issue on the bug tracker (https://
 bugs.tryton.org/roundup/issue1575) and because he's a nice guy (ok it's
 a friend of mine), he made a patch proposal (http://
 codereview.appspot.com/1387041). The end of the story is in the comments
 of the proposal.
 
 
  But we also need to do:
  isinstance(Float('1'), float) == True isinstance(Float('1'), Decimal)
  == True

 Can you explain why you need this?
 
 It's a requirement of the project leader.
 
 
 Should isinstance(Float('1.1'), float) and isinstance(Float('1.1'),
 Decimal) also both be true, or would only one of those be true?  (And
 by the way, what value would Float('1.1') have?  float('1.1') and
 Decimal('1.1') are different values.)
 
 I think they both should be True, for '1', '1.1', '0', '0.1', ... For
 the value, I would say that it depends of the definition of the field
 (fields.Float or fields.Numeric).
 
 
 
 I don't think your approach can succeed;  I'd suggest just subclassing
 'object' and abandoning the 'isinstance' requirements.  Or perhaps
 creating a subclass of Decimal that interacts nicely with floats.  You
 might also want to investigate the numbers ABC, though that's new in
 Python 2.6.
 
 First, Float implementation was a subclass of Decimal that works with
 floats, and solves many (maybe all) problems. But as you may read in the
 comments of the patch proposal, it seems to be not enough.
 
 B.

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Embedding Python in a C extension

2010-06-02 Thread Paul
I have a problem with embedding Python into a C extension in Windows
Vista. I have implemented a timer routine in C as an extension, which
I can import into Python 2.6.5 and run. Each timer interval, the
extension calls a C CALLBACK function. I want to be able to have this
CALLBACK function call a Python function, so that I can write the
timer handler in Python.

I can write Python functions and call them from a C extension function
with no trouble in all cases EXCEPT when the function that calls the
Python code is the timer's CALLBACK function. That is, if I call
PyRun_SimpleString or PyRun_SimpleFile, or PyImport_ImportModule, or
basically any Python-y function in the CALLBACK function, Python
crashes and I get a window saying Python has stopped working. Windows
is searching for a solution to the problem.

The Python code runs fine if I call it from a function in the
extension that is not the CALLBACK function. And regular C code runs
in the CALLBACK function properly. It only crashes if I try to run the
Python code from the timer CALLBACK function (or any C function I call
from the CALLBACK function).

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Re: Mixing Decimal and float

2010-06-02 Thread Nathan Rice
My apologies if someone already mentioned this and I missed it but...

class.__instancecheck__(self, instance) - Return true if instance
should be considered a (direct or indirect) instance of class. If
defined, called to implement isinstance(instance, class).

class.__subclasscheck__(self, subclass) - Return true if subclass
should be considered a (direct or indirect) subclass of class. If
defined, called to implement issubclass(subclass, class).

Nathan

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:24 AM, B.V. bv.try...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 In order to solve some issues due to operations between Decimal and
 float, we wanted to implement a class that inherits from both float
 and Decimal.

 Typically, we wrote:
 class Float(Decimal, float):
 ...

 This can not be achieved because of a TypeError exception (with
 message multiple bases have instance lay-out conflict).

 With a class that inherits from Decimal, with overridden __add__,
 __mul__,  , we succeed to solve operations issues.

 But we also need to do:
 isinstance(Float('1'), float) == True
 isinstance(Float('1'), Decimal) == True
 which is, AFAIK, only possible with Float(Decimal, float).

 Is there a workaround ?

 We are developping with python version 2.5 and 2.6.

 Thanks for your help.

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Re: Converting a pickle to python3

2010-06-02 Thread Paulo da Silva
Em 02-06-2010 04:48, Paulo da Silva escreveu:
 Hi!
 
 I have a big data structure cpickled into a datafile, by python2.
 I tried to unpickle it using python3 but got the followin message:
 File /usr/lib64/python3.1/pickle.py, line 1372, in loads
 encoding=encoding, errors=errors).load()
 _pickle.UnpicklingError: invalid load key, 'x'.
 

...
Please ignore this question. The problem is not the pickle thing but a
compress function I have that has problems related with the new
str/bytes stuff.

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Re: multiprocessing and accessing server's stdout

2010-06-02 Thread Bryan
I wrote:
 So what you really need is to capture the output of a command, in this
 case LaTeX, so you can copy it back to the client. You can do that
 with the subprocess module in the Python standard library.

 If the command generated so much output so fast that you felt the need
 to avoid the extra copy, I suppose you could fork() then hook stdout
 directly to socket connected to the client with dup2(), then exec()
 the command. But no need for that just to capture LaTeX's output.

Upon further reading, I see that the subprocess module makes the
direct-hookup method easy, at least on 'nix systems. Just tell
subprocess.Popen to use the client-connected socket as the
subprocess's stdout.

The question here turns out to make more sense than I had though upon
reading the first post. The server runs a command at the client's
request, and we want to deliver the output of that command back to the
client. A brilliantly efficient method is to direct the command's
stdout to the client's connection.

Below is a demo server that sends the host's words file to any client
that connects. It assumes Unix.


--Bryan Olson


#!/usr/bin/python

from thread import start_new_thread
from subprocess import Popen


def demo(sock):
subp = Popen(['cat', '/usr/share/dict/words'], stdout=sock)
subp.wait()
sock.close()

if __name__ == '__main__':
listener_sock = socket.socket(socket.AF_INET, socket.SOCK_STREAM)
listener_sock.bind(('', 54321))
listener_sock.listen(5)
while True:
sock, remote_address = listener_sock.accept()
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Re: Mixing Decimal and float

2010-06-02 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 17:17:11 -0400, Nathan Rice wrote:

 My apologies if someone already mentioned this and I missed it but...
 
 class.__instancecheck__(self, instance) - Return true if instance should
 be considered a (direct or indirect) instance of class. If defined,
 called to implement isinstance(instance, class).
 
 class.__subclasscheck__(self, subclass) - Return true if subclass should
 be considered a (direct or indirect) subclass of class. If defined,
 called to implement issubclass(subclass, class).

The original poster needs to support Python 2.5 and 2.6, but 
__instancecheck__ and __subclasscheck__ are only supported in 2.6 or 
higher, so this doesn't help.



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Re: Properly posting links

2010-06-02 Thread Ben Finney
Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu writes:

 On 6/2/2010 4:04 AM, pyDev wrote:

  forum for Python enthusiasts over at PythonForum.org (http://
  pythonforum.org). Web-based forums is a preferred method by Python

 This is the second time today I have read a post with a useless link
 wrapped over two lines. Email lists and newsgroups (this is both) are
 text, not html based. Put a link on one line by itself, with no
 punctuation.

Or better, follow appendix “E. Recommendations for Delimiting URI in
Context” of RFC 2396 URL:http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2396.txt. This
allows the text to flow more naturally than breaking every URL onto a
separate line, while still delimiting URLs within the text in a standard
manner that most text processing tools will recognise.

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Re: Mixing Decimal and float

2010-06-02 Thread Chris Rebert
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Steven D'Aprano
steve-remove-t...@cybersource.com.au wrote:
 On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 17:17:11 -0400, Nathan Rice wrote:
 My apologies if someone already mentioned this and I missed it but...

 class.__instancecheck__(self, instance) - Return true if instance should
 be considered a (direct or indirect) instance of class. If defined,
 called to implement isinstance(instance, class).

 class.__subclasscheck__(self, subclass) - Return true if subclass should
 be considered a (direct or indirect) subclass of class. If defined,
 called to implement issubclass(subclass, class).

 The original poster needs to support Python 2.5 and 2.6, but
 __instancecheck__ and __subclasscheck__ are only supported in 2.6 or
 higher, so this doesn't help.

Even in 2.6+, good luck trying to define new methods on class `type`
(the metaclass of float and Decimal).

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Re: Embedding Python in a C extension

2010-06-02 Thread MRAB

p...@mail.python.org wrote:

I have a problem with embedding Python into a C extension in Windows
Vista. I have implemented a timer routine in C as an extension, which
I can import into Python 2.6.5 and run. Each timer interval, the
extension calls a C CALLBACK function. I want to be able to have this
CALLBACK function call a Python function, so that I can write the
timer handler in Python.

I can write Python functions and call them from a C extension function
with no trouble in all cases EXCEPT when the function that calls the
Python code is the timer's CALLBACK function. That is, if I call
PyRun_SimpleString or PyRun_SimpleFile, or PyImport_ImportModule, or
basically any Python-y function in the CALLBACK function, Python
crashes and I get a window saying Python has stopped working. Windows
is searching for a solution to the problem.

The Python code runs fine if I call it from a function in the
extension that is not the CALLBACK function. And regular C code runs
in the CALLBACK function properly. It only crashes if I try to run the
Python code from the timer CALLBACK function (or any C function I call
from the CALLBACK function).

Does anybody know how to fix this? Is there a workaround of some sort?


Here's a quote from the Python docs at:

http://docs.python.org/c-api/init.html

The Python interpreter is not fully thread safe. In order to support
multi-threaded Python programs, there's a global lock, called the global
interpreter lock or GIL, that must be held by the current thread before
it can safely access Python objects. Without the lock, even the simplest
operations could cause problems in a multi-threaded program: for
example, when two threads simultaneously increment the reference count
of the same object, the reference count could end up being incremented
only once instead of twice.

That's probably what's happening to you.
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Re: plac, the easiest command line arguments parser in the world

2010-06-02 Thread alex23
Michele Simionato michele.simion...@gmail.com wrote:
 It seems I have to take that claim back. A few hours after the
 announce I was pointed out tohttp://pypi.python.org/pypi/CLIArgs
 which, I must concede, is even easier to use than plac. It seems
 everybody has written its own command line arguments parser!

I think I still find opterator[1] to be simpler and clearer. No magic
global variables, no spooky behaviour with the main function, just a
decorator and docstring.

1: http://github.com/buchuki/opterator
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Re: Embedding Python in a C extension

2010-06-02 Thread Carl Banks
On Jun 2, 1:46 pm, Paul Grunau wrote:
 I have a problem with embedding Python into a C extension in Windows
 Vista. I have implemented a timer routine in C as an extension, which
 I can import into Python 2.6.5 and run. Each timer interval, the
 extension calls a C CALLBACK function. I want to be able to have this
 CALLBACK function call a Python function, so that I can write the
 timer handler in Python.

 I can write Python functions and call them from a C extension function
 with no trouble in all cases EXCEPT when the function that calls the
 Python code is the timer's CALLBACK function. That is, if I call
 PyRun_SimpleString or PyRun_SimpleFile, or PyImport_ImportModule, or
 basically any Python-y function in the CALLBACK function, Python
 crashes and I get a window saying Python has stopped working. Windows
 is searching for a solution to the problem.

 The Python code runs fine if I call it from a function in the
 extension that is not the CALLBACK function. And regular C code runs
 in the CALLBACK function properly. It only crashes if I try to run the
 Python code from the timer CALLBACK function (or any C function I call
 from the CALLBACK function).

 Does anybody know how to fix this? Is there a workaround of some sort?

See PEP 311.  When an external/uncertain thread calls into Python, it
has to be sure a Python thread state exists for that thread, and that
the thread holds the global interpreter lock.  This is done by
surrounding all Python code with the following calls:

PyGILState_STATE state = PyGILState_Ensure();

and

PyGILState_Release(state);

Normally, code in extension modules can rely on the current thread
having the global lock at all entry points, so it doesn't have worry
about the thread state.  But a callback from a timer can't assume
that.


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[issue8873] Popen uses 333 times as much CPU as a shell pipe on Mac OS X

2010-06-02 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

Have you tried specifying a value for the bufsize argument to Popen? Either 1 
for line buffering or e.g. 4096 for a decent size block buffering.

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[issue1038909] pydoc method documentation lookup enhancement

2010-06-02 Thread Éric Araujo

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[issue1185124] pydoc doesn't find all module doc strings

2010-06-02 Thread Éric Araujo

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[issue8848] Deprecate or remove U and U# formats of Py_BuildValue()

2010-06-02 Thread Walter Dörwald

Walter Dörwald wal...@livinglogic.de added the comment:

The code for case 's'/'z' in py3k is indeed the same as for case 'U'. The patch 
looks good to me.

IMHO removing 'U' should only be done once Py2 is dead.

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[issue8876] distutils should not assume that hardlinks will work

2010-06-02 Thread samtygier

New submission from samtygier samtyg...@yahoo.co.uk:

distutils will currently try to use hardlinks if os has a 'link' attribute, 
however sometimes os.link() will fail, for example the filesystem may not 
support it (see attached traceback).

in commands/sdist.py in make_release_tree() there is the test:
if hasattr(os, 'link'):# can make hard links on this system
link = 'hard'
msg = making hard links in %s... % base_dir

'link' is then passed to copy_file() in file_util.py, which trusts that if link 
== 'hard', then hardlinking will work.

there has been discussion in the past, but i dont think it has been fixed
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.distutils.devel/2076

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[issue8876] distutils should not assume that hardlinks will work

2010-06-02 Thread Éric Araujo

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[issue8877] 2to3 fixes stdlib import wrongly

2010-06-02 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman

New submission from Dirkjan Ochtman dirk...@ochtman.nl:

d...@enrai src $ ls -l test/*
-rw-r--r-- 1 djc users 34 Jun  2 16:00 test/http.py
-rw-r--r-- 1 djc users  0 Jun  2 16:00 test/__init__.py
d...@enrai src $ cat test/http.py
from httplib import BadStatusLine
d...@enrai src $ 2to3 test/*
RefactoringTool: Skipping implicit fixer: buffer
RefactoringTool: Skipping implicit fixer: idioms
RefactoringTool: Skipping implicit fixer: set_literal
RefactoringTool: Skipping implicit fixer: ws_comma
--- test/http.py (original)
+++ test/http.py (refactored)
@@ -1,1 +1,1 @@
-from httplib import BadStatusLine
+from .http.client import BadStatusLine
RefactoringTool: Files that need to be modified:
RefactoringTool: test/http.py

... which doesn't work, of course. On the other hand, http.py is not in a 
package, it works correctly. If test/http.py is moved to test/blah.py instead, 
it also works correctly. 2to3 should be able to conclude that the httplib it 
was before did not refer to .http, but refered to http.client.

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[issue2459] speedup for / while / if with better bytecode

2010-06-02 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman

Dirkjan Ochtman dirk...@ochtman.nl added the comment:

Is this still relevant / will it get some love in the future?

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[issue1766304] improve xrange.__contains__

2010-06-02 Thread Tal Einat

Tal Einat talei...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:

I'd like to implement this for 2.x, if there's any chance of this being 
accepted. Is there still a chance of getting this into 2.7?

This will be my first patch for the Python core, so please tell me if I'm 
missing something. Currently I'm thinking of:
1. starting with the original patch
2. applying the required changes as mentioned Mark Dickinson, looking at the 
the accepted 3.x patch for guidance
3. back-porting the tests
4. checking for later additional changes in the source history, and 
back-porting any such relevant changes

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[issue8876] distutils should not assume that hardlinks will work

2010-06-02 Thread samtygier

samtygier samtyg...@yahoo.co.uk added the comment:

here is a patch against http://svn.python.org/projects/python/trunk

it moves the return statements into the individual file copying sections, and 
takes the final call to _copy_file_contents() out of the else. this allows an 
error in hardlinking to fall through by passing the exception.

i have only tested on Linux.

when running it still prints out
hard linking CHANGES - pyzgoubi-0.4dev
because of how the message is generated in line 130. do you think this needs to 
be changed. do we need a
hardlinking failed, falling back to copy
message? it might cause unnecessary worry (distutils already suppresses 
tracebacks to avoid scaring non-python-programmers).

i have a patch that applies to 2.6 as well, is there much chance of that being 
accepted?

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[issue8876] distutils should not assume that hardlinks will work

2010-06-02 Thread Éric Araujo

Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:

Distutils is a special case: Many third-party code relies on its undocumented 
quirks and bugs, so it’s basically frozen. Some non-disruptive bugfixes are 
accepted, in which case the normal Python rules apply (e.g., no new features in 
2.7 which is in beta). Work has been moved to Distutils2, which breaks 
compatibility in order to fix things and add needed features.

If Tarek (maintainer of both packages) agrees this can go into Distutils, 
Benjamin Peterson (release manager) will say whether he agrees or not. Patient 
a while for Tarek to see this bug report, and thanks for your work :)

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[issue8878] IDLE - str(integer) - TypeError: 'str' object is not callable

2010-06-02 Thread Neil Crouch

New submission from Neil Crouch neil.cro...@tradingtechnologies.com:

Unable to convert int to str in idle but from the cmd python prompt it work 
sfine.

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[issue8878] IDLE - str(integer) - TypeError: 'str' object is not callable

2010-06-02 Thread Ezio Melotti

Ezio Melotti ezio.melo...@gmail.com added the comment:

You probably did str = '4bf3e914' at some point and overridden str.

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[issue8878] IDLE - str(integer) - TypeError: 'str' object is not callable

2010-06-02 Thread Mark Dickinson

Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com added the comment:

The code you show works fine for me.

The error you're seeing is almost certainly the result of inadvertently using 
'str' as a variable name earlier in the IDLE session:

Python 2.6.1 (r261:67515, Feb 11 2010, 00:51:29) 
[GCC 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5646)] on darwin
Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.
 str = '4bf3e914'
 hell = str(123)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File stdin, line 1, in module
TypeError: 'str' object is not callable
 help(str)
no Python documentation found for '4bf3e914'

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[issue1766304] improve xrange.__contains__

2010-06-02 Thread Mark Dickinson

Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com added the comment:

A rapidly diminishing chance for 2.7, IMO.  I wouldn't want to try to add this 
after the first release candidate, which is scheduled for June 5 (and I'm not 
sure I'll have time to review a patch between now and then).

On the other hand, since this is pure optimization it might be acceptable for 
2.7.1.

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[issue1766304] improve xrange.__contains__

2010-06-02 Thread Tal Einat

Tal Einat talei...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:

I'd really like to have this in 2.7. Is there no chance of getting it into 2.7 
after rc1 is released?

If so, I can have the patch ready by Friday 14:00 GMT, but if nobody will have 
time to review (and possibly commit) in time for RC1 I guess I'll take my time 
with this.

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[issue8873] Popen uses 333 times as much CPU as a shell pipe on Mac OS X

2010-06-02 Thread Hugh Secker-Walker

Hugh Secker-Walker hug...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:

OK.  Using bufsize=4096 or bufsize=-1 eliminates the CPU-hogging problem on Mac 
OS X.  Thank you.

I have to say that the Popen() doc could be better.  It says: bufsize, if 
given, has the same meaning as the corresponding argument to the built-in 
open() function! which implies behavior like open(), which is to use the 
system's default buffering, generally a good thing.

I think the default of 0, meaning unbuffered, is a poor choice.  I'm guessing 
many many Mac users are getting a big slowdown from this default behavior (as 
I've now discovered elsewhere in our project!).  I request that you change the 
default to be the same as open(), i.e. use the system default.

Barring that semantic change, please add a note to the doc:  Most users will 
want to set bufsize=4096 for pipe-like buffering, or bufsize=1 for line-based 
buffering.  

Thanks again for the quick response and resolution.

-Hugh

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[issue1766304] improve xrange.__contains__

2010-06-02 Thread Mark Dickinson

Mark Dickinson dicki...@gmail.com added the comment:

Benjamin?

 I'd really like to have this in 2.7. Is there no chance of getting it
 into 2.7 after rc1 is released?

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[issue8873] Popen uses 333 times as much CPU as a shell pipe on Mac OS X

2010-06-02 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

 I think the default of 0, meaning unbuffered, is a poor choice.

So do I, but I'm not sure whether it's acceptable to change behaviour in
a potentially incompatible way.

 Barring that semantic change, please add a note to the doc:  Most
 users will want to set bufsize=4096 for pipe-like buffering, or
 bufsize=1 for line-based buffering.  

Yes, it deserves a documentation note indeed.

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[issue8870] --user-access-control=force produces invalid installer on Vista

2010-06-02 Thread anatoly techtonik

anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com added the comment:

Thanks for thorough explanation. Can somebody close it with some resolution 
like Can't fix. OS level problem?

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[issue8873] Popen uses 333 times as much CPU as a shell pipe on Mac OS X

2010-06-02 Thread Skip Montanaro

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This problem has come up before.  It was a bug introduced I think when
the subprocess module was first incorporated into Python.  I don't
recall if the default was changed in 2.7 or 3.x.  Can you demonstrate
the problem with Python 2.7 or 3.1?  If not, I'd recommend this 
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[issue8877] 2to3 fixes stdlib import wrongly

2010-06-02 Thread Martin v . Löwis

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Just in case it isn't clear: this is because of the order of fixes. The first 
fixer replaces httplib with http.client, then the next fixer thinks this is a 
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[issue8873] Popen uses 333 times as much CPU as a shell pipe on Mac OS X

2010-06-02 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

 This problem has come up before.  It was a bug introduced I think when
 the subprocess module was first incorporated into Python.  I don't
 recall if the default was changed in 2.7 or 3.x.

According to the docs it is still unbuffered by default. I've added a
documentation note about performance issues in r81652.

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[issue1766304] improve xrange.__contains__

2010-06-02 Thread Alexander Belopolsky

Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Tal Einat rep...@bugs.python.org wrote:
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 If so, I can have the patch ready by Friday 14:00 GMT, but if nobody will 
 have time to review
 (and possibly commit) in time for RC1 I guess I'll take my time with this.

I'll review your patch, but why are you so eager to get this into 2.7?
 You realize that for integer x, x in xrange(a, b) is just another way
to spell a = x  b.  What is your use case?

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[issue1766304] improve xrange.__contains__

2010-06-02 Thread Alexander Belopolsky

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[issue8877] 2to3 fixes stdlib import wrongly

2010-06-02 Thread Benjamin Peterson

Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org added the comment:

And this has been fixed in the lastest versions of 2to3.

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[issue1766304] improve xrange.__contains__

2010-06-02 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

  If so, I can have the patch ready by Friday 14:00 GMT, but if nobody will 
  have time to review
  (and possibly commit) in time for RC1 I guess I'll take my time with this.
 
 I'll review your patch, but why are you so eager to get this into 2.7?
  You realize that for integer x, x in xrange(a, b) is just another way
 to spell a = x  b.  What is your use case?

I really think this shouldn't go into 2.7.  We certainly have better
things to do than potentially break something for an almost useless
non-feature.

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[issue1766304] improve xrange.__contains__

2010-06-02 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

Rescheduling to 3.2, if applicable (otherwise I suggest closing).

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[issue1766304] improve xrange.__contains__

2010-06-02 Thread Benjamin Peterson

Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org added the comment:

I don't really see the point. I would be more inclined towards it if there was 
a patch already, but patching this doesn't strike me as a key feature.

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[issue1766304] improve xrange.__contains__

2010-06-02 Thread Alexander Belopolsky

Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:

This is already in 3.x.  The only reason I can think of to get this in
2.7 is to have fewer performance surprises between 2.x and 3.x.

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[issue8874] py3k documentation mentions deprecated opcode LOAD_LOCALS

2010-06-02 Thread Benjamin Peterson

Benjamin Peterson benja...@python.org added the comment:

Thanks. Removed in r81656.

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[issue5434] datetime.monthdelta

2010-06-02 Thread Alexander Belopolsky

Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:

Rejecting this for stdlib.  A 3rd party package is available at 
http://pypi.python.org/pypi?name=MonthDelta:action=display .

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[issue1766304] improve xrange.__contains__

2010-06-02 Thread Antoine Pitrou

Antoine Pitrou pit...@free.fr added the comment:

Le mercredi 02 juin 2010 à 18:10 +, Alexander Belopolsky a écrit :
 This is already in 3.x.  The only reason I can think of to get this in
 2.7 is to have fewer performance surprises between 2.x and 3.x.

Since you are supposed to forward-port from 2.x and 3.x, the surprise
will be a good one anyway.

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[issue8879] Implement os.link on Windows

2010-06-02 Thread Brian Curtin

New submission from Brian Curtin cur...@acm.org:

Add os.link support for Windows


(mostly a reminder to myself to finish the patch I have)

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[issue8870] --user-access-control=force produces invalid installer on Vista

2010-06-02 Thread Éric Araujo

Changes by Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org:


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[issue8866] socket.getaddrinfo() should support keyword arguments

2010-06-02 Thread Giampaolo Rodola'

Giampaolo Rodola' g.rod...@gmail.com added the comment:

The patch in attachment implements keyword arguments.

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[issue8870] --user-access-control=force produces invalid installer on Vista

2010-06-02 Thread anatoly techtonik

anatoly techtonik techto...@gmail.com added the comment:

Is it possible to detect this situation and display more user-friendly error 
message with a reference to this issue?

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[issue5094] datetime lacks concrete tzinfo impl. for UTC

2010-06-02 Thread Alexander Belopolsky

Alexander Belopolsky belopol...@users.sourceforge.net added the comment:

Here is my first attempt to implement fixed offset timezone type.  The patch is 
based on Brett's next-patch.txt and while I changed the type name from 
datetime.UTC to datetime.timezone, I did not change the name of the related C 
structures.  I would like to ask for comments on the following questions:

1. How to call the new type?  I like timezone because it is likely to be the 
only concrete tzinfo subclass in datetime module, so we don't really need to 
call it fixedoffsetfromutctimezone.

2. Do we want to add a dst indicator and altname attributes? I would say: no. I 
would rather treat DST as a different fixed offset timezone.

3. I am not quite happy about having to specify offset in minutes.  I think 
timezone(hours[, minutes]) may be clearer.  Alternatively we may just take 
offset as a timedelta.  Note issue5288.  There is some interest in supporting 
sub-minute timezones.

4. I have fixed a reference leak in utcnow, but I am still against giving it 
tz_aware argument.

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[issue8880] ConfigParser.set does not convert non-string values

2010-06-02 Thread Edwin Pozharski

New submission from Edwin Pozharski pozhar...@gmail.com:

set() method of ConfigParser accepts boolean True/False as values at runtime 
without converting them to strings internally.  As a result, getboolean() 
method reports the following error

  File /usr/lib/python2.6/ConfigParser.py, line 350, in getboolean
if v.lower() not in self._boolean_states:
AttributeError: 'bool' object has no attribute 'lower'

since it expects get() method to return strings.  (Same problem occurs if other 
types are used, int/float, etc)

Altering set() behavior may be not the best thing to do, I'd rather suggest 
that getboolean() converts the get() output to string.

Of course, the way to avoid this problem is always convert values submitted to 
set() to strings, but it's a hard-to-catch bug.  In my case, I was stuck with 
problematic configuration when assigning values to wx.CheckBox.GetValue(), 
which returns boolean.

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[issue8880] ConfigParser.set does not convert non-string values

2010-06-02 Thread Éric Araujo

Éric Araujo mer...@netwok.org added the comment:

Would that mean that booleans would be converted to strings on set and 
converted back on get? Seems wasteful.

(I’ve changed the version field for this bug. Its meaning is not “versions this 
applies to” but “versions that will get a fix”, and 3.2 is the only active 
branch now. Some bugfixes may still go into 2.7.)

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[issue5094] datetime lacks concrete tzinfo impl. for UTC

2010-06-02 Thread Brett Cannon

Brett Cannon br...@python.org added the comment:

My thoughts on Alexander's questions:

1. Call it FixedTimezone or something (remember it has to be CapWords). Calling 
it simply Timezone does not convey the fact that DST is not supported and 
people might naively think it will. Its limited abilities should be portrayed 
in the name.

2. Keep the class dead-simple. The primary motivator is to support UTC, maybe 
the %z directive for strptime. Otherwise everything else should be left out of 
the stdlib and let third-parties manage it as they will be the ones that need 
to manage the bazillion timezone instances they need. We don't need to dictate 
an interface to them.

3. Taking a timedelta makes sense since the class represents the fixed time 
offset from UTC.

As for the tz_aware argument to utcnow and friends, I am fine with letting go 
of them if we have a utc attribute on datetime and we simply document that to 
get a UTC-aware value do ``now(datetime.utc)`` and consider deprecating utcnow.

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