Re: [ql-users] XCHange under QPC2

2005-12-17 Thread Ralf Reköndt
Hi Marcel,

nice to hear. Thanks in advance!

Cheers...Ralf R.

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Subject: Re: [ql-users] XCHange under QPC2


Ralf Reköndt wrote:
> Does someone know, why the recent XCHange version still write a little 
> white
> rectangular into the screen when executed under QPC2?

It's writing QL mode stuff instead of 16 bit mode stuff. Wait for my
next page update, I have a patch for this.

Marcel

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Re: [ql-users] Concept 3D

2005-12-17 Thread Ralf Reköndt
WHAT? He does not remember? Can't really understand this. What was the time 
of writing? As long as the program does not do dirty things, it would run 
under the emulators. But I didn't believe.

Cheers...Ralf R.

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> On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:14:47 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Very good idea. A pity that an author has lost his source code. In which
>> language is it written?
>
> He does not remember, but when I saw it being developed I'm pretty sure it
> was in SuperBasic and he compiled it.
>
> Tim Swenson
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[ql-users] Some help

2005-12-17 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Hi,

I got some questions from a customer which are pretty much unrelated
to QPC and therefore not in my area of expertise. But perhaps somebody
else has some answer?

Question 1:
| I have one issue when running my application I configured in French
| (33 in the GUI).
| For all kind of application, Quill, Archive, Abacus, after change
| "fld1" by "flp1" in line 360 (archive) and run
|
| error message is :  "Veuillez utiliser un QL français "

Question 2:
| How to retrieve data (from Archive for instance) to convert from QL to
| textfile under WinXP

I have never even used Archive, so I'm a bit of a loss here.

TIA, Marcel

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Re: [ql-users] Dataspace

2005-12-17 Thread Marcel Kilgus
P Witte wrote:
> I need some advice. What is the prescribed way to find a running job's
> (initial) dataspace, given its ID? There is none, right?

Right.

> So what can I try?

Only the combined length of code and data area is known. So without
knowing the length of the code, I'd wager, nothing.

Why do you need that?

Marcel

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Re: [ql-users] Some help

2005-12-17 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 17 Dec 2005 at 16:08, Marcel Kilgus wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I got some questions from a customer which are pretty much unrelated
> to QPC and therefore not in my area of expertise. But perhaps somebody
> else has some answer?
> 
> Question 1:
> | I have one issue when running my application I configured in French
> | (33 in the GUI).
> | For all kind of application, Quill, Archive, Abacus, after change
> | "fld1" by "flp1" in line 360 (archive) and run
> |
> | error message is :  "Veuillez utiliser un QL français "

Tell him to use Xchange.

The old  Psion apps were copy protected and checked that they ran on an MGF 
ROM (or MGG for the german versions etc).

If this can wait until the beinning of january, i **might** be able to 
unearth the versions that, umm, will run on anything.


> Question 2:
> | How to retrieve data (from Archive for instance) to convert from QL to
> | textfile under WinXP

Well if he is versed in Archive writing a small procedure that dumps his data 
to a textfile shound't be too difficult...
 Wolfgang

www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com

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Re: [ql-users] Some help

2005-12-17 Thread Ralf Reköndt
They will check the ROM but they aren't copy protected (in conjunction with 
files).

Cheers...Ralf R.

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The old  Psion apps were copy protected and checked that they ran on an MGF
ROM (or MGG for the german versions etc).


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Re: [ql-users] Dataspace

2005-12-17 Thread P Witte
Marcel Kilgus writes:

>> I need some advice. What is the prescribed way to find a running job's
>> (initial) dataspace, given its ID? There is none, right?
>
> Right.
>
>> So what can I try?
>
> Only the combined length of code and data area is known. So without
> knowing the length of the code, I'd wager, nothing.

Except that included in that figure is an unknown quantity of a possible 
command line plus a number of channels, ie there is no way of knowing for 
certain where the top of the original dataspace is.

> Why do you need that?

I have some information about the structure of the dataspace of a job I want 
to manipulate from outside that job, such as some of its internal states. 
But I can only access that structure if I know where it is!

I suppose I could read the job's dataspace from its file, then add that to 
the code length and add that again to the start of the job's address in 
memory. Not ideal..

A better way might be to reference the data from the start of the code 
rather than the top of dataspace. However, that would mean that if any 
changes were made to the target program, my code might need to be updated 
too.

Per 

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Re: [ql-users] Some help

2005-12-17 Thread P Witte
Marcel Kilgus writes:

>I got some questions from a customer which are pretty much unrelated
>to QPC and therefore not in my area of expertise. But perhaps somebody
>else has some answer?
>
>Question 1:
>| I have one issue when running my application I configured in French
>| (33 in the GUI).
>| For all kind of application, Quill, Archive, Abacus, after change
>| "fld1" by "flp1" in line 360 (archive) and run
>|
>| error message is :  "Veuillez utiliser un QL français "
>
>Question 2:
>| How to retrieve data (from Archive for instance) to convert from QL to
>| textfile under WinXP

use 'export' to export entire databases which can be read by Excel, Access 
and others.

Otherwise use

spoolon 
lprint var$
...
spooloff

Per

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Re: [ql-users] Some help

2005-12-17 Thread Timothy Swenson
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:08:02 +0100, Marcel Kilgus 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Question 2:
> | How to retrieve data (from Archive for instance) to convert from QL to
> | textfile under WinXP

Like it was said earlier, use the export command for Abacus.  I think 
Archive has an export command too. If it does not, then put use print 
statements to get the data out in a format like this:

12324,1234,"text","text",1234,1234,"text"

Comma's between fields and text is quoted.

  Exported files are in Comma Seperated format or CSV for Comma Seperated 
Variables.  Most PC spreadsheets and databases can read a CSV format.

Tim Swenson
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Re: [ql-users] Concept 3D

2005-12-17 Thread Timothy Swenson
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:17:59 +0100, Ralf Reköndt 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> WHAT? He does not remember? Can't really understand this. What was the 
> time
> of writing? As long as the program does not do dirty things, it would run
> under the emulators. But I didn't believe.

Concept 3D was written about April 1986 to June 1987.  Within a year or 
two of writing Concept 3D, Robert moved away from the QL.  All development 
was done with microdrives and they were giving him problems.  He never 
moved to floppies.

Tim Swenson

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Re: [ql-users] Some help

2005-12-17 Thread Tony Firshman
On  Sat, 17 Dec 2005 at 11:36:03, Timothy Swenson wrote:
(ref: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)

>On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:08:02 +0100, Marcel Kilgus
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Question 2:
>> | How to retrieve data (from Archive for instance) to convert from QL to
>> | textfile under WinXP
>
>Like it was said earlier, use the export command for Abacus.  I think
>Archive has an export command too. If it does not, then put use print
>statements to get the data out in a format like this:
It does:

export 'filename' as 'filename'

produces a quote delimited file.
First line is field names, and subsequent are data.

You can also list fields to be exported.

The major snag with this is that archive allows double quote in data.
This will produce invalid export files.
I always convert " to ' when entering data.
One must write a procedure to change all double quotes to single quotes.

Tony
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Re: [ql-users] QPC

2005-12-17 Thread Bill Waugh

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From: "Marcel Kilgus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Bill Waugh wrote:
>> In Sbasic
>> I enter - open#3,par
>>   print #3, ' Hi '  result nothing
>> if I then enter again -  open #3, par   - result prints  Hi
>>
>> Strange
>
> No, perfectly logical. As I wrote, printing only starts once the
> channel is closed. In order to open it again, it has to be closed
> first, that's why it prints on the second open. I.e.
>
> open#3,par
> print #3, ' Hi '
> close #3
>
> will work as well.
>
> Marcel
 Yep it does, as does NEW I just found as it closes open channels, sorry I 
missed that part of your mail ( rushing about making tea )
not sure how I manage this printing from Archive though, I'm only printing 
four or five lines ( name +  3 or 4 address line ).
Also I  managed this fine last year, probably I have upgraded QPC since then 
though.
Thanks for your reply

All the best - Bill 

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