Re: QMAIL definitely violates PIPELINING specification ...

1999-05-19 Thread Andrzej Kukula

> From:  "Fred Lindberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date:  Thu, 13 May 1999 09:05:36 -0500
> Reply-to:  "Fred Lindberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Priority:  Normal
> Subject:   Re: QMAIL definitely violates PIPELINING specification ...

> What do you think of that ???

I think the "Red Hat Linux release 5.2 (Apollo) Kernel 2.0.36 on an
i686" and the "FortKnox Proxy Telnet (Version 4.0)", and the "FortKnox
Proxy Transparent FTP (Version 4.0)" and others are all messed up.

Try telnetting to mailhost.temex.fr, ports 21 and 25 using Windows' 
telnet and you'll see why... :-)

> As I complained to sorena (the editor of ZMailer) of errors 500
> generated when there was a connection in between Qmail and Zmailer,
> here was their answer... Any idea ?
> 
> >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: QMAIL definitely violates PIPELINING specification ...
> >
> >yep, it is definite, QMAIL violates RFC 2197, and should *NOT*
> >claim support for PIPELINING.
> >
> >MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BODY=8BITMIME
> >RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >250 ok
> >250 ok
> >
> >After that "MAIL From:" command it reads successfully the "RCPT
> >To:", but it would loose any input (at least the "DATA") after
> >"RCPT To:" processing. /Matti Aarnio


Regards,
Andrzej Kukula



Re: QMAIL definitely violates PIPELINING specification ...

1999-05-13 Thread Russell Nelson

D. J. Bernstein writes:
 > DUGRES Hugues, I.T. manager at C.Q.E. writes:
 > > What do you think of that ???
 > 
 > I think that patches are a support nightmare. What you're using isn't
 > qmail, so don't call it qmail, and don't ask the qmail list for help.

I agree.  How about giving us permission to distribute a modified form
of qmail in source and executable form as long as we call it something
other than qmail?  If you do that, then the need for patches will go
away, and there won't *be* any patches for qmail.

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Re: QMAIL definitely violates PIPELINING specification ...

1999-05-13 Thread Fred Lindberg

On 13 May 1999 05:42:23 -, D. J. Bernstein wrote:

>I think that patches are a support nightmare. What you're using isn't
>qmail, so don't call it qmail, and don't ask the qmail list for help.

So, DUGRES Hugues, I.T. manager at C.Q.E., the problem isn't qmail, but
in a patch applied to add [desired additional] functionality. What
patches are you using in you PIPELINING-violating installation? What
can be done to fix the bug in the patch? Which patch should others
avoid to avoid violating rfc2197?


-Sincerely, Fred

(Frederik Lindberg, Infectious Diseases, WashU, St. Louis, MO, USA)




Re: QMAIL definitely violates PIPELINING specification ...

1999-05-12 Thread D. J. Bernstein

DUGRES Hugues, I.T. manager at C.Q.E. writes:
> What do you think of that ???

I think that patches are a support nightmare. What you're using isn't
qmail, so don't call it qmail, and don't ask the qmail list for help.

---Dan



Re: QMAIL definitely violates PIPELINING specification ...

1999-05-12 Thread Jeff Hayward

On Wed, 12 May 1999, DUGRES Hugues, I.T. manager at C.Q.E. wrote:

   What do you think of that ???
   
   As I complained to sorena (the editor of ZMailer) of errors 500 generated
   when there was a connection in between Qmail and Zmailer, here was their
   answer... Any idea ?

Matti is definitely wrong.  I just ran my own pipelining test, 1000
RCPT entries, two messages, all sent in a single i/o operation.
Worked fine.

He's probably doing something silly, like not waiting for the
responses to complete, or not using canonical line termination or
something  (I've done both of those before, with predictable
results).

-- Jeff Hayward
   
   >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   >Subject: QMAIL definitely violates PIPELINING specification ...
   >
   >yep, it is definite, QMAIL violates RFC 2197, and should *NOT* claim
   >support for PIPELINING.
   >
   >MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BODY=8BITMIME
   >RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   >250 ok
   >250 ok
   >
   >After that "MAIL From:" command it reads successfully the "RCPT To:",
   >but it would loose any input (at least the "DATA") after "RCPT To:"
   >processing.
   >/Matti Aarnio
   >
   >
   >
   
   
   
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Re: QMAIL definitely violates PIPELINING specification ...

1999-05-12 Thread Dave Sill

"DUGRES Hugues, I.T. manager at C.Q.E." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>What do you think of that ???

I don't believe it.

>>yep, it is definite, QMAIL violates RFC 2197, and should *NOT* claim
>>support for PIPELINING.
>>
>>MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BODY=8BITMIME
>>RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>250 ok
>>250 ok
>>
>>After that "MAIL From:" command it reads successfully the "RCPT To:",
>>but it would loose any input (at least the "DATA") after "RCPT To:"
>>processing.
>>/Matti Aarnio

I conducted a simple pipelining test with three RCPT's and a DATA, and
it worked fine as far as I can tell. Matti may have a point, but he's
failed to make it.

-Dave



QMAIL definitely violates PIPELINING specification ...

1999-05-12 Thread DUGRES Hugues, I.T. manager at C.Q.E.

What do you think of that ???

As I complained to sorena (the editor of ZMailer) of errors 500 generated
when there was a connection in between Qmail and Zmailer, here was their
answer... Any idea ?

>Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: QMAIL definitely violates PIPELINING specification ...
>
>yep, it is definite, QMAIL violates RFC 2197, and should *NOT* claim
>support for PIPELINING.
>
>MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BODY=8BITMIME
>RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>250 ok
>250 ok
>
>After that "MAIL From:" command it reads successfully the "RCPT To:",
>but it would loose any input (at least the "DATA") after "RCPT To:"
>processing.
>/Matti Aarnio
>
>
>



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