[RBW] Re: Looking for Nitto Moustache bar
I run M-bars w/ a 2cm shorter stem extension. Same height as with other bars. The position on the very ends definitely gives you a different position that drops can't provide. It's lower than the stem (~2cm) but maybe 4cm closer to you: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2536686586/in/set-72157605369032545/ Worth a try, but I would recommend getting a shorter stem to go with it as well. Cheers, DE On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: Nathan, Not to be discouraging, but IMO a Moustache bar will not necessarily give you a more upright position. If you use the same stem, the wide grips of the 'stash will actually be lower than the ramps of the Noodle, the forward section will be pretty far forward, and you won't have the tops to let you sit up at all. Grant used to recommend using a stem maybe 4 cm shorter with a Moustache than with a drop bar. I find I need a Moustache to be set both close and well above saddle height, and it still works best for me when riding briskly. I like it for a while, but gravitate back to a drop bar when I start to miss having the tops. Mine is in the spare parts bin for now, but I'm sure I'll try it again on some bike or another. How high are your Noodles set now? You might consider using a taller and/or shorter stem with the Noodles first, like a Technomic or a Dirt Drop. You'll probably want a stem like that anyway if you ever convert to a moustache. On my Riv Road, I went from a 10 cm stem to an 8, then went from a Noodle to a bar with less forward reach. Overall the hoods moved about 4 cm closer to the saddle, and I was more comfortable on the bike. Of course, I'm 50 years old, and 20 pounds heavier and somewhat less flexible than I was when I bought the bike 14 years ago! Oh, and don't forget, a 25.4 Moustache (like mine) with a shim will work fine, too. Riv sells the Nitto steel shim, or you can get 0.010 brass shim stock at the hardware store and that works fine, too. And if you really want upright, skip the Moustache and try an Albatross instead. Bill On May 1, 6:27 pm, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: After a long morning ride today with a Noodle bar, wishing I was more upright, I'm now looking to buy a Nitto Moustache bar (26.0mm clamp size). Let me know if you've got one for sale! -nathan -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?
On 1 Maj, 21:10, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 2:04 PM, fenderbender pedal_kr...@yahoo.se wrote: More layers will give you a slick finish, which may or may not be what you want. There are places to get cloth in colors - Rivendell, Hiawatha Cyclery, probably Harris. IIRC, yellow tape with a few coats of amber is a good match for a honey saddle. Bill Connell St. Paul, MN Thanks! Tempted to place a larger order this autumn. But I'm not that much of a fashion victim to have handlebar wrap sent half way around the world for the sake of colour. ^^^ I have both white and blue wrap at home and would like to get it done soon so I guess I'll just try and dye it. Not sure what type of color to use though. Could probably source some hockey stick wrap but would it work? Remember reading that Grant P. had come across some blue shellac. I could only find amber and clear but what other colors are there? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Detail photos of the new Riv Sam Hillborne
The pictures are nice, and it appears quite the bike. Until looking at these, I had somehow missed altogether the Hillborne is not set up for braze on down tube shifters though. It seems those of us who still prefer DT shifters are getting farther and fewer between, as I cannot recall this being discussed. Which is why they still have the Hilsen. On May 1, 11:59 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 5/1/09 3:02 PM, Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles wrote: We took a little time today to put the new Sam Hillborne frameset under the studio lights: http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/ Take a look and let me know if you have any questions about the details. We will post more photos next week (and more photos of the Betty Foy too.) This particular 56cm frame is scheduled to be a Shimano 105 classic Rivendell build. Bar-ends, Brooks, Honjo, Nitto, etc. Wow. Thanks for sharing those with the group. That is really a gorgeous frameset. One of the things which struck me was the plethora of braze-ons. Mid-seatstay, two on the rear dropout. The details on the seatstay bridge. That's one heckuva lot of bike for the money. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Your Photos are needed! -http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines I thought the idea was to waste the rest of our lives together.. -- Cyril, Breaking Away --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Looking for Nitto Moustache bar
on 5/2/09 6:56 AM, charlie at charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: I just put mustache bars on my Surly Trucker and so far the jury is still out on them. I rode home from work yesterday (20 miles) and I had more wrist and hand discomfort than with my noodle bars. My mustache bars are 1 inch higher at the ends than my saddle and I use a 90mm stem. I may try a shorter and taller stem. I found with my moustache bar setup that minute changes of angle made a significant difference. Mine is set up lower and more forward than it probably should be, but it was a comfortable addition to the bike it's on. But I recall at least three rides where I was messing with the angle before finding that spot. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Your Photos are needed! - http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines Steel's what you want for a messenger bike. Weight. Big basket up front. Not cardboard with some crazy aramid shit wrapped around it, weighs about as much as a sandwich. -- William Gibson, Virtual Light --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Orr Springs Road, Mendocino County
On May 1, 3:57 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: An interesting and challenging route would be to start in Ukiah and head out Orr Springs to the coast, then down past Mendocino and Albion to Hwy 128. Take that back to Hwy 253 and climb back over the mountains to Ukiah. That would be a nice day's ride. My in-laws live in Mendocino and I would LOVE to take a bike down and get away from the house for a coupla three hours. From the village proper, say heading up the road past the fire station, what's some good riding around there? Beth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Looking for Nitto Moustache bar
FWIW, I have the clamp level with my seat, so the ends are probably 3cm below that... YMMV On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 6:56 AM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: I just put mustache bars on my Surly Trucker and so far the jury is still out on them. I rode home from work yesterday (20 miles) and I had more wrist and hand discomfort than with my noodle bars. My mustache bars are 1 inch higher at the ends than my saddle and I use a 90mm stem. I may try a shorter and taller stem. In town the bar was great with good braking control and a stable feel. I have one other bike with an albatross bar and a B67 that is simply the most comfortable bike I own. I remain frustrated and $100 poorer. As one other poster said I am 50 and overweight so perhaps there is nothing that will give me comfort for rides over about 15 miles. On May 1, 6:27 pm, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: After a long morning ride today with a Noodle bar, wishing I was more upright, I'm now looking to buy a Nitto Moustache bar (26.0mm clamp size). Let me know if you've got one for sale! -nathan -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Looking for Nitto Moustache bar
http://tinyurl.com/cvxduy My current M-bar setup. Far less neat looking than the traditional setup, but is much more upright and I find comfortable. David Estes wrote: FWIW, I have the clamp level with my seat, so the ends are probably 3cm below that... YMMV On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 6:56 AM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com mailto:charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: I just put mustache bars on my Surly Trucker and so far the jury is still out on them. I rode home from work yesterday (20 miles) and I had more wrist and hand discomfort than with my noodle bars. My mustache bars are 1 inch higher at the ends than my saddle and I use a 90mm stem. I may try a shorter and taller stem. In town the bar was great with good braking control and a stable feel. I have one other bike with an albatross bar and a B67 that is simply the most comfortable bike I own. I remain frustrated and $100 poorer. As one other poster said I am 50 and overweight so perhaps there is nothing that will give me comfort for rides over about 15 miles. On May 1, 6:27 pm, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com mailto:nath...@gmail.com wrote: After a long morning ride today with a Noodle bar, wishing I was more upright, I'm now looking to buy a Nitto Moustache bar (26.0mm clamp size). Let me know if you've got one for sale! -nathan -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Looking for Nitto Moustache bar
This is the image of the rider getting aero on moustache bars: http://sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/images/xo1-rba-8-91.jpg It's pineapple bob, who worked at bstone, was featured in many bstone catalogs, and still works at RBW. On May 2, 6:55 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: The mustache affords a surprisingly aero position when laying flat on it as well. It's easy to get over 40 mph on a downhill with mustahce bars around here. Actually easier than on my noodle equipped bikes. The posture takes little time to get used to. There's a picture of a racer doing just this in a Bridgestone catalog. I can't remember where i saw it. I think the rider in that photo later worked/still works? at RBW. From: Len Lescosky 172tur...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2009 8:33:16 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Looking for Nitto Moustache bar Oooo, the moustache bar debate. I've had a moustache bar on my Heron Touring since I bought it, which was 1997 or 1998, and I've loved it. Primarily I ride this bike to commute to work or for shopping. It's an intown bike that I usually ride twenty or fewer miles on an outing. I've also put fatter tires on it and ridden fire roads and single track. I love the bar on this bike, it is perfect. So perfect that I've tried the moustache on other road bikes and could not make it work. I never could decide what it was about the set up on the other bikes that was wrong. I tried to get the handlebar and saddle positions the same, but still it didn't work. It just did not seem balanced. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Shellac cork?
On 1 Maj, 20:52, Dave Craig dcr...@prescott.edu wrote: You know what they say about men with bigger hands . . . they need bigger bars! Dave Oh, tell me about it. http://www.capabilityevents.co.uk/images/001Sept08/Big/KIF_7020.jpg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Looking for Nitto Moustache bar
Yes, that's it. Thanks Jeremy. I've bookmarked the link. I actually can lay right down on the bar for a downhill, but have no pics :) From: Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2009 10:46:44 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Looking for Nitto Moustache bar This is the image of the rider getting aero on moustache bars: http://sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/images/xo1-rba-8-91.jpg It's pineapple bob, who worked at bstone, was featured in many bstone catalogs, and still works at RBW. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Looking for Nitto Moustache bar
I bought a too small AllRounder back in '96. http://tinyurl.com/cuuynn (I was thinking off-road use when buying the 58cm, but later Grant put me on a 61.5cm road frame, to give you some idea of how too small it is.) I put mustache bars on it that ended up being 3 inches below the saddle with a Pearl stem. After a few years I decided I hated mustache bars (duh!). Maybe I would like them at or above saddle height, but I am not trying again. Besides my wrong placement, I missed the top flats. But that is not why I am writing. When I rode the mustache, I often just lightly rested my hands on the tops of the bars or the brake levers, not hooking a thumb or finger underneath as I do when riding drops or flat bars. This was fine for years. But one day, in the summer of 1997, I saw a shapely young cyclist up the road. So of course I accelerated to overtake. I failed to notice a speed bump, and as I hit it, my hands flew off the bars and off I went the front end of the bike. The too low bars put a dent in the top tube. The road scraped lots of flesh off my left arm. The impact broke both cups of the ends of the radius (or ulna, I don't know which is what in my forearm) of my right arm. It hurt like hell to ride back home, and for a month thereafter. The arm pops on rare occasion to this day when I straighten my arm (calcium buildup along the cup crack?). So the moral of this story is something like, not to stay away from the mustache, but keep your hormones in check, or keep your thumb hooked under your mustache, or maybe both! On May 1, 7:27 pm, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: After a long morning ride today with a Noodle bar, wishing I was more upright, I'm now looking to buy a Nitto Moustache bar (26.0mm clamp size). Let me know if you've got one for sale! -nathan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Orr Springs Road, Mendocino County
But don't look at a map and say, Oh Fish Rock road looks like a good way to get over to Hwy 128 from the coast, unless you are prepared for one of the hardest unpaved steep up-and-down days of riding ever. I had a bad map and didn't realize it would be dirt. It turned out to be a very good day to be on an XO-1. Atlantis would be even better. If I ever try that again, I'll know what I'm in for and bring enough food and water. Unfortunately, my friend was on a more traditional road bike, RB-1 with stock gearing. That was tough, but he was studly and road all of it. I was using 24x28 all day. Crashing at the motel in Cloverdale concluded this day of riding. -Jim On May 2, 2009, at 9:02 AM, franklyn wrote: Beth, Mendocino is one of the nicest place to ride. You can start from Mendocino proper. Go out of town and go inland on Ukiah Comptche Road. Take that all the way to Comptche. Take Flynn Creek Road toward HWY 128. Come back to HWY 1 on HWY 128, then ride up the coast back up to Mendocino. $40 miles of road bike heaven--decent pavement, redwood forest, awesome coast view, rollers and moderate hills. Another option is to start in Mendocino. Go up north on HWY 1 to Fort Bragg (8 miles one way). There is an abandoned rail road bridge that got converted into a pedestrian bridge. That is beginning of a 3-4 mile beach front trails that take you out of Fort Bragg. Once you are off the trail, continue on HWY 1 north. You can go as far as you can toward Westport. About 5 mile out of Fort Bragg there is a great beach to hang out. From Fort Bragg to Westport is 20 miles. I can post bikely route later. Franklyn On May 2, 7:37 am, beth h periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote: On May 1, 3:57 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: An interesting and challenging route would be to start in Ukiah and head out Orr Springs to the coast, then down past Mendocino and Albion to Hwy 128. Take that back to Hwy 253 and climb back over the mountains to Ukiah. That would be a nice day's ride. My in-laws live in Mendocino and I would LOVE to take a bike down and get away from the house for a coupla three hours. From the village proper, say heading up the road past the fire station, what's some good riding around there? Beth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Detail photos of the new Riv Sam Hillborne
Wow, I hadn't noticed that until now either about the missing DT shifter braze ons. I would have thought it would have them because you can always add the cable stops, but not vice versa. It was a design decision, assuming you'd be using bar ends,brifters or thumb shifters. They can't please everyone all the time. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Hillborne bottom bracket
Eric, I wouldn't think they'd be offering these if they didn't fit, that'd be a waste of hardware and bad business as customers would revolt. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Wald basket versatility
A fantastic use for the off-the-bike jumbo Wald... http://tinyurl.com/c59rnb Cheers, Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Wald basket versatility
Brilliant! I may have to get one for the next time I homebrew, too! - Original Message - From: colin p. cummings To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 11:50 AM Subject: [RBW] Wald basket versatility A fantastic use for the off-the-bike jumbo Wald... http://tinyurl.com/c59rnb Cheers, Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Detail photos of the new Riv Sam Hillborne
You can't go doing too many things that will raise the price. I myself don't like downtube shifters anymore, but I remember once having no problem mounting one of those clamp-on things to hold them on an old Trek that didn't have the braze-ons. So good decision if it kept the cost down. On May 2, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Garth wrote: Wow, I hadn't noticed that until now either about the missing DT shifter braze ons. I would have thought it would have them because you can always add the cable stops, but not vice versa. It was a design decision, assuming you'd be using bar ends,brifters or thumb shifters. They can't please everyone all the time. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Good Cals Bad Cals/Going Grok
The latest reader has an interview with Mark Sisson. At the end is a suggested reading of Good Calories Bad Calories by Gary Taubes. I picked it up at the book store a few weeks ago. Read it once and was so blown away that I read it two more times. When the first Grok/Caveman story was in the Reader over a year ago, I thought it was kind of amusing. But not good advice for this long distance cyclist. Due to this book, my thinking has changed. Dave Nawrocki Fort Collins, CO --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Good Cals Bad Cals/Going Grok
Does the book have all the Grok references in it? I found those Reader articles fascinating, too. I've lost ten pounds in the past two months just by being more conscious of how and when I eat. Almost effortless! - Original Message - From: nawr...@comcast.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 1:36 PM Subject: [RBW] Good Cals Bad Cals/Going Grok The latest reader has an interview with Mark Sisson. At the end is a suggested reading of Good Calories Bad Calories by Gary Taubes. I picked it up at the book store a few weeks ago. Read it once and was so blown away that I read it two more times. When the first Grok/Caveman story was in the Reader over a year ago, I thought it was kind of amusing. But not good advice for this long distance cyclist. Due to this book, my thinking has changed. Dave Nawrocki Fort Collins, CO --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] May 16 Rivendell Ride
'Nother reminder about the upcoming ride on May 16th... 30+ miles out of Redlands. Just pre-road the first half and it is wonderful out there! Here are some pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157617519871571/ Hope we can entice a few of you out to the Inland Empire to enjoy some of our trails! More discussion here: http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/72157617023666267/ -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Hillborne bottom bracket
Agreed. However, I've heard that other builders have specified certain bottom brackets with early builds, then the final bike ends up different enough that the correct bottom bracket didn't work. (Sometimes what is specified from a Taiwan builder and what is built can be two different things.) Looking at the detail photos that were put up elsewhere, my worries were unfounded. Grant found an elegant solution for the chainstays. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On May 2, 1:21�pm, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, I wouldn't think they'd be offering these if they didn't fit, that'd be a waste of hardware and bad business as customers would revolt. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Detail photos of the new Riv Sam Hillborne
You can't go doing too many things that will raise the price. I myself don't like downtube shifters anymore, but I remember once having no problem mounting one of those clamp-on things to hold them on an old Trek that didn't have the braze-ons. Well there is a point! For the Simplex afficianado, it is somewhat easier to find clamp on shifters with the sunburst design than braze- on. The collectors who have scarfed up the sunburst braze on shifters are very reluctant to give them up. And to be clear, I am not trying to be negative at all. I was just a tad surprised how marginal DT shifters have become. On May 2, 4:25 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: You can't go doing too many things that will raise the price. I myself don't like downtube shifters anymore, but I remember once having no problem mounting one of those clamp-on things to hold them on an old Trek that didn't have the braze-ons. So good decision if it kept the cost down. On May 2, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Garth wrote: Wow, I hadn't noticed that until now either about the missing DT shifter braze ons. I would have thought it would have them because you can always add the cable stops, but not vice versa. It was a design decision, assuming you'd be using bar ends,brifters or thumb shifters. They can't please everyone all the time. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Looking for Nitto Moustache bar
Yea..I tipped the angle down a bit more for a non-tweaked wrist and it seems to help but I only rode it about a mile. I don't notice discomfort unless I am riding more than about ten miles. I think I may use a more padded tape and I may try a shorter taller stem but then I'd have to change out my cables and housing again since I have them pretty ideal now. I do like how the bike handles in short 5 mile commutes in town and that is what I will primarily do with it. Occasionally I have to ride all the way home though and that puts me at 20+ miles so I hope I can get comfortable enough. I'm wondering if any of you use a B67 or a B68 with a mustache bar and if you think it results in more comfort or is the position too stretched out and bent over for that. I've been unable to get comfortable on my B17's lately as I think I have bruised my tailbone on the rough roads. My one bike that has the properly set albatross bars and a B67 seems really comfortable and I want to get similar comfort on my main ride. Any experiences you all can offer with this combo would be enlightening I'm sure. On May 2, 7:16 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 5/2/09 6:56 AM, charlie at charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: I just put mustache bars on my Surly Trucker and so far the jury is still out on them. I rode home from work yesterday (20 miles) and I had more wrist and hand discomfort than with my noodle bars. My mustache bars are 1 inch higher at the ends than my saddle and I use a 90mm stem. I may try a shorter and taller stem. I found with my moustache bar setup that minute changes of angle made a significant difference. Mine is set up lower and more forward than it probably should be, but it was a comfortable addition to the bike it's on. But I recall at least three rides where I was messing with the angle before finding that spot. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Your Photos are needed! -http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines Steel's what you want for a messenger bike. Weight. Big basket up front. Not cardboard with some crazy aramid shit wrapped around it, weighs about as much as a sandwich. -- William Gibson, Virtual Light --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Looking for Nitto Moustache bar
Thanks for all of your wisdom! Let me provide some more info. I purchased a Romulus last month and soon after went over to RBW where Mark kindly setup the bike's current bar and saddle heights. I've been mostly enjoying the Noodle bar so far, but have been doing mostly 5-20 mi rides. Yesterday was my first long ride (50 mi) with the bike, and about halfway through I had a pretty intense soreness in lower my back. This hampered my comfort for the rest of the ride; I had to stop a few times to stretch and rest so that I could keep on going. The guy I was riding with suggested I try out the Moustache bars, to get a more upright position, so that I'm not leaning forward as much / tensing my back as much. So, I'd like to at least experiment with new bars and see if they make a difference on long rides. Here's a photo of our bikes on the ride yesterday: http:// www.flickr.com/photos/natan/3492115283/. You can see my bars are just about level with the saddle, and both stem (Technomic Deluxe) and post are right below max height (the bike is just a little small for me…). I'm willing to try out a new stem too, it sounds like the Nitto DirtDrop is the way to go if I move forward with the Moustache bar. -nathan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Any Rivs in New York City??
Is there anyone in NYC with a Bleriot or other Rivendell that they'd like to show off? I'm smitten by these fantastic bikes, but haven't yet seen them in real life. There must be someone out here. Where are you? I'd love to see your bike and compliment you on your good taste. Melanie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Looking for Nitto Moustache bar
Maybe it was just the extra distance and it wouldn't matter what kind of bars you had. If you want to be more upright, Albatross bars are a better bet than M-bars. I don't feel much/any more upright with them than with Dirt Drops, and miss the drop position on longer rides. Cheers, DE On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:55 AM, nathan nath...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all of your wisdom! Let me provide some more info. I purchased a Romulus last month and soon after went over to RBW where Mark kindly setup the bike's current bar and saddle heights. I've been mostly enjoying the Noodle bar so far, but have been doing mostly 5-20 mi rides. Yesterday was my first long ride (50 mi) with the bike, and about halfway through I had a pretty intense soreness in lower my back. This hampered my comfort for the rest of the ride; I had to stop a few times to stretch and rest so that I could keep on going. The guy I was riding with suggested I try out the Moustache bars, to get a more upright position, so that I'm not leaning forward as much / tensing my back as much. So, I'd like to at least experiment with new bars and see if they make a difference on long rides. Here's a photo of our bikes on the ride yesterday: http:// www.flickr.com/photos/natan/3492115283/. You can see my bars are just about level with the saddle, and both stem (Technomic Deluxe) and post are right below max height (the bike is just a little small for me…). I'm willing to try out a new stem too, it sounds like the Nitto DirtDrop is the way to go if I move forward with the Moustache bar. -nathan -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Looking for Nitto Moustache bar
I've had a set of the Mustache handlebars on my Schwinn Paramount for a number of years. I purchased them before Rivendell was founded from a local (Tucson) Bridgestone bicycle dealer, after Grant had designed his iconic XO-1. Here's a photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37964...@n05/3494987260/ I ran this bicycle, during this period, for a time with a set of the older Nitto handlebars that Grant recommended before introducing the Dream bars (they're the Nitto Model 185). For rides of moderate distance, especially along bike paths or in town, I think Mustache bars work quite well. I usually ride with my hands gripping the bars right at the bends or resting on top of the gummed hoods. Occasionally I do use the hand position at the ends of the bars, but not frequently. For rides of a longer distance (e.g. 20 miles), I don't particularly recommend a Mustache bar. I think a conventional drop bar works better. The thing I miss most with a Mustache bar is the position afforded with a normal drop bar gripping the bars close to the stem. This position really is not available for a Mustache bar. My two cents. Jim On May 1, 6:27 pm, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: After a long morning ride today with a Noodle bar, wishing I was more upright, I'm now looking to buy a Nitto Moustache bar (26.0mm clamp size). Let me know if you've got one for sale! -nathan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Atlantis on Portland CL
Looks nice. Not mine - wish it was. http://portland.craigslist.org/grg/bik/1151713022.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
