[RBW] Re: WTB: Handlebar

[Ian Buckley]

I should also mention that I have CrMo Albatross bars if you’re interested 
Edwin. Some scratches from mounting them, but I only rode them for a couple 
of months.

Any interest in the bullmoose bars, Edwin?

On Sunday 28 July 2024 at 06:32:55 UTC-7 Steve wrote:

> Edwin, I have a Jones Bend H-bar,  cut to 660mm wide, that I'd let go for 
> $30. Note that it requires a 31.8mm stem and is black. I'm in North Carolina
>
> [image: 0704BB0C-BD1B-4164-954B-5F84586D520A.jpeg]
>
> On Saturday, July 27, 2024 at 1:50:41 PM UTC-4 captaincon...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I have the first generation tumbleweed persuader bars I haven't used in 
>> over a year, and that's my threshold of I should sell.  To me, these split 
>> the difference between flat a swept back bars.  Ultimately, I always revert 
>> to drop bars.
>>
>> On Friday, July 26, 2024 at 5:10:35 PM UTC-5 free...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I have a lightly used Nitto TIG Bullmoose Bar I am willing to part with.
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 26, 2024 at 5:42:33 PM UTC-4 iwdbu...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>

 Sorry, forgot to mention my location.

 Ian
 Victoria, BC

 On Friday 26 July 2024 at 14:41:46 UTC-7 Ian Buckley wrote:

>
> Piggybacking on your request, Edwin, I’m looking for something similar 
> in case anyone has wide silver bars (~650-700mm) with some sweep and 
> rise. 
> I love the look of the Nitto x Crumbworks KT bar, and would consider 
> similar bars.
> On Friday 26 July 2024 at 11:51:38 UTC-7 Edwin W wrote:
>
>> Good Riv folks,
>>
>> I am looking for a swept back bar for an upcoming build. I was 
>> thinking something between a MAP Ahearne 
>> 
>>  (less 
>> sweep back) and a Riv Choco 
>> 
>>  (almost 
>> all the way swept back)... I know they are quite different, but I would 
>> be 
>> open to seeing what people have lying around.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Edwin
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Handlebar

[Steve]

Edwin, I have a Jones Bend H-bar,  cut to 660mm wide, that I'd let go for 
$30. Note that it requires a 31.8mm stem and is black. I'm in North Carolina

[image: 0704BB0C-BD1B-4164-954B-5F84586D520A.jpeg]

On Saturday, July 27, 2024 at 1:50:41 PM UTC-4 captaincon...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I have the first generation tumbleweed persuader bars I haven't used in 
> over a year, and that's my threshold of I should sell.  To me, these split 
> the difference between flat a swept back bars.  Ultimately, I always revert 
> to drop bars.
>
> On Friday, July 26, 2024 at 5:10:35 PM UTC-5 free...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I have a lightly used Nitto TIG Bullmoose Bar I am willing to part with.
>>
>> On Friday, July 26, 2024 at 5:42:33 PM UTC-4 iwdbu...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, forgot to mention my location.
>>>
>>> Ian
>>> Victoria, BC
>>>
>>> On Friday 26 July 2024 at 14:41:46 UTC-7 Ian Buckley wrote:
>>>

 Piggybacking on your request, Edwin, I’m looking for something similar 
 in case anyone has wide silver bars (~650-700mm) with some sweep and rise. 
 I love the look of the Nitto x Crumbworks KT bar, and would consider 
 similar bars.
 On Friday 26 July 2024 at 11:51:38 UTC-7 Edwin W wrote:

> Good Riv folks,
>
> I am looking for a swept back bar for an upcoming build. I was 
> thinking something between a MAP Ahearne 
> 
>  (less 
> sweep back) and a Riv Choco 
> 
>  (almost 
> all the way swept back)... I know they are quite different, but I would 
> be 
> open to seeing what people have lying around.
>
> Thanks,
> Edwin
>


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[RBW] Re: WTB: Handlebar

[Conway Bennett]

I have the first generation tumbleweed persuader bars I haven't used in 
over a year, and that's my threshold of I should sell.  To me, these split 
the difference between flat a swept back bars.  Ultimately, I always revert 
to drop bars.

On Friday, July 26, 2024 at 5:10:35 PM UTC-5 free...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have a lightly used Nitto TIG Bullmoose Bar I am willing to part with.
>
> On Friday, July 26, 2024 at 5:42:33 PM UTC-4 iwdbu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Sorry, forgot to mention my location.
>>
>> Ian
>> Victoria, BC
>>
>> On Friday 26 July 2024 at 14:41:46 UTC-7 Ian Buckley wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Piggybacking on your request, Edwin, I’m looking for something similar 
>>> in case anyone has wide silver bars (~650-700mm) with some sweep and rise. 
>>> I love the look of the Nitto x Crumbworks KT bar, and would consider 
>>> similar bars.
>>> On Friday 26 July 2024 at 11:51:38 UTC-7 Edwin W wrote:
>>>
 Good Riv folks,

 I am looking for a swept back bar for an upcoming build. I was thinking 
 something between a MAP Ahearne 
 
  (less 
 sweep back) and a Riv Choco 
 
  (almost 
 all the way swept back)... I know they are quite different, but I would be 
 open to seeing what people have lying around.

 Thanks,
 Edwin

>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Handlebar

[Jake Freeland]

I have a lightly used Nitto TIG Bullmoose Bar I am willing to part with.

On Friday, July 26, 2024 at 5:42:33 PM UTC-4 iwdbu...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Sorry, forgot to mention my location.
>
> Ian
> Victoria, BC
>
> On Friday 26 July 2024 at 14:41:46 UTC-7 Ian Buckley wrote:
>
>>
>> Piggybacking on your request, Edwin, I’m looking for something similar in 
>> case anyone has wide silver bars (~650-700mm) with some sweep and rise. 
>> I love the look of the Nitto x Crumbworks KT bar, and would consider 
>> similar bars.
>> On Friday 26 July 2024 at 11:51:38 UTC-7 Edwin W wrote:
>>
>>> Good Riv folks,
>>>
>>> I am looking for a swept back bar for an upcoming build. I was thinking 
>>> something between a MAP Ahearne 
>>> 
>>>  (less 
>>> sweep back) and a Riv Choco 
>>> 
>>>  (almost 
>>> all the way swept back)... I know they are quite different, but I would be 
>>> open to seeing what people have lying around.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Edwin
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Susie Longbolts 56

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Saturday Cycles of Salt Lake has Susies, and a relative gajillions of other 
Rivendell options at their shop-
https://www.saturdaycycles.com/ ,so it should go without saying how nice 
they are…
And Welcome!
-Kai

On Friday, July 26, 2024 at 10:29:31 AM UTC-6 zakk.ba...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey all
> New here. I'm looking for a Susie frame set in 56 cm or 59 cm. 
> Or possibly a 59cm Clem L. But I'd prefer the Susie.
> I'm in need of a more upright bike due to an injury. Appreciate any leads.
> Thanks!
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Handlebar

[Ian Buckley]

Sorry, forgot to mention my location.

Ian
Victoria, BC

On Friday 26 July 2024 at 14:41:46 UTC-7 Ian Buckley wrote:

>
> Piggybacking on your request, Edwin, I’m looking for something similar in 
> case anyone has wide silver bars (~650-700mm) with some sweep and rise. 
> I love the look of the Nitto x Crumbworks KT bar, and would consider 
> similar bars.
> On Friday 26 July 2024 at 11:51:38 UTC-7 Edwin W wrote:
>
>> Good Riv folks,
>>
>> I am looking for a swept back bar for an upcoming build. I was thinking 
>> something between a MAP Ahearne 
>> 
>>  (less 
>> sweep back) and a Riv Choco 
>> 
>>  (almost 
>> all the way swept back)... I know they are quite different, but I would be 
>> open to seeing what people have lying around.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Edwin
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Handlebar

[Ian Buckley]

Piggybacking on your request, Edwin, I’m looking for something similar in 
case anyone has wide silver bars (~650-700mm) with some sweep and rise. 
I love the look of the Nitto x Crumbworks KT bar, and would consider 
similar bars.
On Friday 26 July 2024 at 11:51:38 UTC-7 Edwin W wrote:

> Good Riv folks,
>
> I am looking for a swept back bar for an upcoming build. I was thinking 
> something between a MAP Ahearne 
> 
>  (less 
> sweep back) and a Riv Choco 
> 
>  (almost 
> all the way swept back)... I know they are quite different, but I would be 
> open to seeing what people have lying around.
>
> Thanks,
> Edwin
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 60cm Cheviot (NH+)

[Josh C]

-Nic, 
That's awesome, I'm glad that one worked out. I kept looking at it and as 
he lowered the price it became more and more enticing. I would have bought 
it but I've got several bikes that overlap with the Cheviot. I'd love to 
see how you set it up if you've got pictures. 

On Friday, July 19, 2024 at 9:56:06 AM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:

> [image: IMG_3974.jpg]
> FYI - my 60cm Metallic Blue Cheviot frameset is still available for sale 
> for $1250 shipping included (most places)
> Lovely complete build possible too 
> On Friday, July 19, 2024 at 2:50:57 AM UTC-4 Nic in Oslo wrote:
>
>> Yup, that’s the one. 
>>
>> Nic
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2024, at 14:18, Josh C  wrote:
>>
>> Nic, 
>>
>> Which one did you end up getting? The orange one from FB in Illinois? 
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 17, 2024 at 10:59:43 AM UTC-4 Nic in Oslo wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Josh and everybody else that chimed in with leads! Happy to say 
>>> my orange Cheviot got delivered yesterday, and I’m looking forward to 
>>> building it up and getting some miles with it as soon as I can. 
>>>
>>> Nic
>>>
>>> On Jun 27, 2024, at 20:24, Josh C  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1429598715105228/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3Ac182247c-c59a-414b-b7e2-f3ed5fa3354d
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 7:31:25 PM UTC-4 Nic in Oslo wrote:
>>>
 Great! James and Jason, I’ll be in touch. 

 Nic

 On Jun 27, 2024, at 13:07, James  wrote:

 I emailed ya Nic



 On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 10:53:20 PM UTC-4 Nic in Oslo wrote:

> That could work. I’ll check it out. Thanks!
>
> On Jun 26, 2024, at 20:59, Hoch in ut  wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> There is an orange one on Riv Facebook group. There’s also a 58cm 
> Betty frameset, if that size works. 
> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 6:53:56 PM UTC-6 Nic in Oslo wrote:
>
>> If you have a Cheviot that needs a new home I’d love to open mine to 
>> it. 
>>
>> Any color, frame or complete, all’s good. 
>>
>> I’m in NH and am more than happy doing a bit of a road trip if you’re 
>> in the New England area. 
>>
>> Nic
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 60cm Cheviot (NH+)

[Nicholas Fox]

Yup, that’s the one. NicOn Jul 18, 2024, at 14:18, Josh C  wrote:Nic, Which one did you end up getting? The orange one from FB in Illinois? On Wednesday, July 17, 2024 at 10:59:43 AM UTC-4 Nic in Oslo wrote:Thanks, Josh and everybody else that chimed in with leads! Happy to say my orange Cheviot got delivered yesterday, and I’m looking forward to building it up and getting some miles with it as soon as I can. NicOn Jun 27, 2024, at 20:24, Josh C  wrote:https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1429598715105228/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3Ac182247c-c59a-414b-b7e2-f3ed5fa3354dOn Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 7:31:25 PM UTC-4 Nic in Oslo wrote:Great! James and Jason, I’ll be in touch. NicOn Jun 27, 2024, at 13:07, James  wrote:I emailed ya NicOn Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 10:53:20 PM UTC-4 Nic in Oslo wrote:That could work. I’ll check it out. Thanks!On Jun 26, 2024, at 20:59, Hoch in ut  wrote:There is an orange one on Riv Facebook group. There’s also a 58cm Betty frameset, if that size works. On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 6:53:56 PM UTC-6 Nic in Oslo wrote:If you have a Cheviot that needs a new home I’d love to open mine to it. Any color, frame or complete, all’s good. I’m in NH and am more than happy doing a bit of a road trip if you’re in the New England area. Nic



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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 60cm Cheviot (NH+)

[Josh C]

Nic, 
Which one did you end up getting? The orange one from FB in Illinois? 

On Wednesday, July 17, 2024 at 10:59:43 AM UTC-4 Nic in Oslo wrote:

> Thanks, Josh and everybody else that chimed in with leads! Happy to say my 
> orange Cheviot got delivered yesterday, and I’m looking forward to building 
> it up and getting some miles with it as soon as I can. 
>
> Nic
>
> On Jun 27, 2024, at 20:24, Josh C  wrote:
>
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1429598715105228/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3Ac182247c-c59a-414b-b7e2-f3ed5fa3354d
>
>
>
> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 7:31:25 PM UTC-4 Nic in Oslo wrote:
>
>> Great! James and Jason, I’ll be in touch. 
>>
>> Nic
>>
>> On Jun 27, 2024, at 13:07, James  wrote:
>>
>> I emailed ya Nic
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 10:53:20 PM UTC-4 Nic in Oslo wrote:
>>
>>> That could work. I’ll check it out. Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 20:59, Hoch in ut  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> There is an orange one on Riv Facebook group. There’s also a 58cm Betty 
>>> frameset, if that size works. 
>>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 6:53:56 PM UTC-6 Nic in Oslo wrote:
>>>
 If you have a Cheviot that needs a new home I’d love to open mine to 
 it. 

 Any color, frame or complete, all’s good. 

 I’m in NH and am more than happy doing a bit of a road trip if you’re 
 in the New England area. 

 Nic

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 60cm Cheviot (NH+)

[Nicholas Fox]

Thanks, Josh and everybody else that chimed in with leads! Happy to say my orange Cheviot got delivered yesterday, and I’m looking forward to building it up and getting some miles with it as soon as I can. NicOn Jun 27, 2024, at 20:24, Josh C  wrote:https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1429598715105228/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3Ac182247c-c59a-414b-b7e2-f3ed5fa3354dOn Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 7:31:25 PM UTC-4 Nic in Oslo wrote:Great! James and Jason, I’ll be in touch. NicOn Jun 27, 2024, at 13:07, James  wrote:I emailed ya NicOn Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 10:53:20 PM UTC-4 Nic in Oslo wrote:That could work. I’ll check it out. Thanks!On Jun 26, 2024, at 20:59, Hoch in ut  wrote:There is an orange one on Riv Facebook group. There’s also a 58cm Betty frameset, if that size works. On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 6:53:56 PM UTC-6 Nic in Oslo wrote:If you have a Cheviot that needs a new home I’d love to open mine to it. Any color, frame or complete, all’s good. I’m in NH and am more than happy doing a bit of a road trip if you’re in the New England area. Nic



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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 59 Clem L Frameset

[Dorothy C]

I don’t know about Riv restocking, as they just had them in February, but 
CL Cycle have a lime-olive or a Forest Green in stock. They are in Canada, 
but ship to the US. Make sure to click the USD button. 

https://www.clcycle.ca/en/cadre-et-fourche-rivendell-clem-l-frame-and-fork.html


On Monday, July 8, 2024 at 3:20:20 PM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Ryan,
>
> I'm certain that RBW headquarters has the Clems on their framesets and 
> completes schedule for later this year. For now, it's a waiting game to see 
> when exactly when.
>
> Between now and then, it will give you time to save up more money for your 
> purchase. 
>
> Kim Hetzel. 
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2024, 2:40 PM Ryan Frahm  wrote:
>
>> I had planned on the Clem replacing the 2 bikes I have but it seems my 
>> budget needs to be tighter than expected. My Clem will have to keep waiting 
>> it seems. Thank you all very much for the help!
>>
>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 8:33:15 PM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> @Ryan,
>>> as an idea... Call Will Keating tomorrow at RBW headquarters and see if 
>>> they have a 59cm frameset unsold somewhere in their warehouse or even a 
>>> complete or a demo. I bought my 52cm Clem through a serendipity experience 
>>> talking to Will. I was and remain truly grateful to find one in RBW blue. 
>>>
>>> ...or post ISO/WTB: 59cm Rivendell Clem Smith Jr. "L" frameset on 
>>> Facebook's Rivendell Bicycles BUY/SELL/TRADE 
>>>  webpage. 
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 8:21:42 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>>
 @Ryan,
 You are more than welcome.

 Kim Hetzel. 

 On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 8:09:55 PM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you again, Kim!
>
> Thank you Chris for that picture! Nice looking Clem you have there! I 
> am usually at 79cm on my saddle so that is a big help on where I’d be. 
>
> Unfortunately, I looked and that Weehoo trailer doesn’t make an 
> adapter for the Clem seatpost size. I’m sure I can figure something out. 
> Still hope I can find a frame! There’s a 64 on eBay but $250 for shipping 
> and sales tax doesn’t save much over the ones Riv has in stock!
>
> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 7:17:46 PM UTC-7 Chris Halasz wrote:
>
>> Here's a recent photo of my 64cm Clem L, with 78cm seat seat height 
>> adjusted for my 88cm PBH. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_1854.jpg]
>>
>> - Chris
>>
>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:41:10 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>
>>> BTW... you are welcome.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:40:43 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>>
 Yes, for an aging senior cyclist, the Clem is an all-rounder bike 
 both on and off road, but no single track. There are times that I wish 
 I 
 could test ride a Platypus for the possibility of owning a second 
 bike. 
 However, I cannot afford one right now. From what I have read herein 
 the 
 past discussions, the Platypus is more of a light and nimbler bicycle, 
 than 
 the Clem. The Clem tends to be a heavier bike. However, it performance 
 and 
 abilities out weight the heaviness. For now, I am running SimWorks 
 HOMAGE 
 43mm tires on my Clem for mostly pavement at maximum psi. 

 Kim Hetzel. 

 On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:14:32 PM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you Kim, I appreciate the advice on sizing! They seem like 
> the perfect “if I could only have one bike” bike.

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 59 Clem L Frameset

[Kim H.]

@Ryan,

I'm certain that RBW headquarters has the Clems on their framesets and
completes schedule for later this year. For now, it's a waiting game to see
when exactly when.

Between now and then, it will give you time to save up more money for your
purchase.

Kim Hetzel.

On Mon, Jul 8, 2024, 2:40 PM Ryan Frahm  wrote:

> I had planned on the Clem replacing the 2 bikes I have but it seems my
> budget needs to be tighter than expected. My Clem will have to keep waiting
> it seems. Thank you all very much for the help!
>
> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 8:33:15 PM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @Ryan,
>> as an idea... Call Will Keating tomorrow at RBW headquarters and see if
>> they have a 59cm frameset unsold somewhere in their warehouse or even a
>> complete or a demo. I bought my 52cm Clem through a serendipity experience
>> talking to Will. I was and remain truly grateful to find one in RBW blue.
>>
>> ...or post ISO/WTB: 59cm Rivendell Clem Smith Jr. "L" frameset on
>> Facebook's Rivendell Bicycles BUY/SELL/TRADE
>>  webpage.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 8:21:42 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>
>>> @Ryan,
>>> You are more than welcome.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 8:09:55 PM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Thank you again, Kim!

 Thank you Chris for that picture! Nice looking Clem you have there! I
 am usually at 79cm on my saddle so that is a big help on where I’d be.

 Unfortunately, I looked and that Weehoo trailer doesn’t make an adapter
 for the Clem seatpost size. I’m sure I can figure something out. Still hope
 I can find a frame! There’s a 64 on eBay but $250 for shipping and sales
 tax doesn’t save much over the ones Riv has in stock!

 On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 7:17:46 PM UTC-7 Chris Halasz wrote:

> Here's a recent photo of my 64cm Clem L, with 78cm seat seat height
> adjusted for my 88cm PBH.
>
> [image: IMG_1854.jpg]
>
> - Chris
>
> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:41:10 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>
>> BTW... you are welcome.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:40:43 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, for an aging senior cyclist, the Clem is an all-rounder bike
>>> both on and off road, but no single track. There are times that I wish I
>>> could test ride a Platypus for the possibility of owning a second bike.
>>> However, I cannot afford one right now. From what I have read herein the
>>> past discussions, the Platypus is more of a light and nimbler bicycle, 
>>> than
>>> the Clem. The Clem tends to be a heavier bike. However, it performance 
>>> and
>>> abilities out weight the heaviness. For now, I am running SimWorks 
>>> HOMAGE
>>> 43mm tires on my Clem for mostly pavement at maximum psi.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:14:32 PM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Thank you Kim, I appreciate the advice on sizing! They seem like
 the perfect “if I could only have one bike” bike.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: 59 Clem L Frameset

[Ryan Frahm]

I had planned on the Clem replacing the 2 bikes I have but it seems my 
budget needs to be tighter than expected. My Clem will have to keep waiting 
it seems. Thank you all very much for the help!

On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 8:33:15 PM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Ryan,
> as an idea... Call Will Keating tomorrow at RBW headquarters and see if 
> they have a 59cm frameset unsold somewhere in their warehouse or even a 
> complete or a demo. I bought my 52cm Clem through a serendipity experience 
> talking to Will. I was and remain truly grateful to find one in RBW blue. 
>
> ...or post ISO/WTB: 59cm Rivendell Clem Smith Jr. "L" frameset on 
> Facebook's Rivendell Bicycles BUY/SELL/TRADE 
>  webpage. 
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 8:21:42 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>
>> @Ryan,
>> You are more than welcome.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel. 
>>
>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 8:09:55 PM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you again, Kim!
>>>
>>> Thank you Chris for that picture! Nice looking Clem you have there! I am 
>>> usually at 79cm on my saddle so that is a big help on where I’d be. 
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I looked and that Weehoo trailer doesn’t make an adapter 
>>> for the Clem seatpost size. I’m sure I can figure something out. Still hope 
>>> I can find a frame! There’s a 64 on eBay but $250 for shipping and sales 
>>> tax doesn’t save much over the ones Riv has in stock!
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 7:17:46 PM UTC-7 Chris Halasz wrote:
>>>
 Here's a recent photo of my 64cm Clem L, with 78cm seat seat height 
 adjusted for my 88cm PBH. 

 [image: IMG_1854.jpg]

 - Chris

 On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:41:10 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:

> BTW... you are welcome.
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:40:43 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>
>> Yes, for an aging senior cyclist, the Clem is an all-rounder bike 
>> both on and off road, but no single track. There are times that I wish I 
>> could test ride a Platypus for the possibility of owning a second bike. 
>> However, I cannot afford one right now. From what I have read herein the 
>> past discussions, the Platypus is more of a light and nimbler bicycle, 
>> than 
>> the Clem. The Clem tends to be a heavier bike. However, it performance 
>> and 
>> abilities out weight the heaviness. For now, I am running SimWorks 
>> HOMAGE 
>> 43mm tires on my Clem for mostly pavement at maximum psi. 
>>
>> Kim Hetzel. 
>>
>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:14:32 PM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Kim, I appreciate the advice on sizing! They seem like the 
>>> perfect “if I could only have one bike” bike.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 59 Clem L Frameset

[Kim H.]

@Ryan,
as an idea... Call Will Keating tomorrow at RBW headquarters and see if 
they have a 59cm frameset unsold somewhere in their warehouse or even a 
complete or a demo. I bought my 52cm Clem through a serendipity experience 
talking to Will. I was and remain truly grateful to find one in RBW blue. 

...or post ISO/WTB: 59cm Rivendell Clem Smith Jr. "L" frameset on 
Facebook's Rivendell Bicycles BUY/SELL/TRADE 
 webpage. 

Kim Hetzel.

On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 8:21:42 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:

> @Ryan,
> You are more than welcome.
>
> Kim Hetzel. 
>
> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 8:09:55 PM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thank you again, Kim!
>>
>> Thank you Chris for that picture! Nice looking Clem you have there! I am 
>> usually at 79cm on my saddle so that is a big help on where I’d be. 
>>
>> Unfortunately, I looked and that Weehoo trailer doesn’t make an adapter 
>> for the Clem seatpost size. I’m sure I can figure something out. Still hope 
>> I can find a frame! There’s a 64 on eBay but $250 for shipping and sales 
>> tax doesn’t save much over the ones Riv has in stock!
>>
>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 7:17:46 PM UTC-7 Chris Halasz wrote:
>>
>>> Here's a recent photo of my 64cm Clem L, with 78cm seat seat height 
>>> adjusted for my 88cm PBH. 
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_1854.jpg]
>>>
>>> - Chris
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:41:10 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>>
 BTW... you are welcome.

 Kim Hetzel.

 On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:40:43 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:

> Yes, for an aging senior cyclist, the Clem is an all-rounder bike both 
> on and off road, but no single track. There are times that I wish I could 
> test ride a Platypus for the possibility of owning a second bike. 
> However, 
> I cannot afford one right now. From what I have read herein the past 
> discussions, the Platypus is more of a light and nimbler bicycle, than 
> the 
> Clem. The Clem tends to be a heavier bike. However, it performance and 
> abilities out weight the heaviness. For now, I am running SimWorks HOMAGE 
> 43mm tires on my Clem for mostly pavement at maximum psi. 
>
> Kim Hetzel. 
>
> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:14:32 PM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thank you Kim, I appreciate the advice on sizing! They seem like the 
>> perfect “if I could only have one bike” bike.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 59 Clem L Frameset

[Kim H.]

@Ryan,
You are more than welcome.

Kim Hetzel. 

On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 8:09:55 PM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you again, Kim!
>
> Thank you Chris for that picture! Nice looking Clem you have there! I am 
> usually at 79cm on my saddle so that is a big help on where I’d be. 
>
> Unfortunately, I looked and that Weehoo trailer doesn’t make an adapter 
> for the Clem seatpost size. I’m sure I can figure something out. Still hope 
> I can find a frame! There’s a 64 on eBay but $250 for shipping and sales 
> tax doesn’t save much over the ones Riv has in stock!
>
> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 7:17:46 PM UTC-7 Chris Halasz wrote:
>
>> Here's a recent photo of my 64cm Clem L, with 78cm seat seat height 
>> adjusted for my 88cm PBH. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_1854.jpg]
>>
>> - Chris
>>
>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:41:10 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>
>>> BTW... you are welcome.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:40:43 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>>
 Yes, for an aging senior cyclist, the Clem is an all-rounder bike both 
 on and off road, but no single track. There are times that I wish I could 
 test ride a Platypus for the possibility of owning a second bike. However, 
 I cannot afford one right now. From what I have read herein the past 
 discussions, the Platypus is more of a light and nimbler bicycle, than the 
 Clem. The Clem tends to be a heavier bike. However, it performance and 
 abilities out weight the heaviness. For now, I am running SimWorks HOMAGE 
 43mm tires on my Clem for mostly pavement at maximum psi. 

 Kim Hetzel. 

 On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:14:32 PM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you Kim, I appreciate the advice on sizing! They seem like the 
> perfect “if I could only have one bike” bike.



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[RBW] Re: WTB: 59 Clem L Frameset

[Ryan Frahm]

Thank you again, Kim!

Thank you Chris for that picture! Nice looking Clem you have there! I am 
usually at 79cm on my saddle so that is a big help on where I’d be. 

Unfortunately, I looked and that Weehoo trailer doesn’t make an adapter for 
the Clem seatpost size. I’m sure I can figure something out. Still hope I 
can find a frame! There’s a 64 on eBay but $250 for shipping and sales tax 
doesn’t save much over the ones Riv has in stock!

On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 7:17:46 PM UTC-7 Chris Halasz wrote:

> Here's a recent photo of my 64cm Clem L, with 78cm seat seat height 
> adjusted for my 88cm PBH. 
>
> [image: IMG_1854.jpg]
>
> - Chris
>
> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:41:10 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>
>> BTW... you are welcome.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:40:43 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, for an aging senior cyclist, the Clem is an all-rounder bike both 
>>> on and off road, but no single track. There are times that I wish I could 
>>> test ride a Platypus for the possibility of owning a second bike. However, 
>>> I cannot afford one right now. From what I have read herein the past 
>>> discussions, the Platypus is more of a light and nimbler bicycle, than the 
>>> Clem. The Clem tends to be a heavier bike. However, it performance and 
>>> abilities out weight the heaviness. For now, I am running SimWorks HOMAGE 
>>> 43mm tires on my Clem for mostly pavement at maximum psi. 
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:14:32 PM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Thank you Kim, I appreciate the advice on sizing! They seem like the 
 perfect “if I could only have one bike” bike.
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 59 Clem L Frameset

[Kim H.]

BTW... you are welcome.

Kim Hetzel.

On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:40:43 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:

> Yes, for an aging senior cyclist, the Clem is an all-rounder bike both on 
> and off road, but no single track. There are times that I wish I could test 
> ride a Platypus for the possibility of owning a second bike. However, I 
> cannot afford one right now. From what I have read herein the past 
> discussions, the Platypus is more of a light and nimbler bicycle, than the 
> Clem. The Clem tends to be a heavier bike. However, it performance and 
> abilities out weight the heaviness. For now, I am running SimWorks HOMAGE 
> 43mm tires on my Clem for mostly pavement at maximum psi. 
>
> Kim Hetzel. 
>
> On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:14:32 PM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thank you Kim, I appreciate the advice on sizing! They seem like the 
>> perfect “if I could only have one bike” bike.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 59 Clem L Frameset

[Kim H.]

Yes, for an aging senior cyclist, the Clem is an all-rounder bike both on 
and off road, but no single track. There are times that I wish I could test 
ride a Platypus for the possibility of owning a second bike. However, I 
cannot afford one right now. From what I have read herein the past 
discussions, the Platypus is more of a light and nimbler bicycle, than the 
Clem. The Clem tends to be a heavier bike. However, it performance and 
abilities out weight the heaviness. For now, I am running SimWorks HOMAGE 
43mm tires on my Clem for mostly pavement at maximum psi. 

Kim Hetzel. 

On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 6:14:32 PM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you Kim, I appreciate the advice on sizing! They seem like the 
> perfect “if I could only have one bike” bike.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 59 Clem L Frameset

[Ryan Frahm]

Thank you Kim, I appreciate the advice on sizing! They seem like the 
perfect “if I could only have one bike” bike.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 59 Clem L Frameset

[Kim H.]

IMHO, you would be better off with a 59cm Clem frameset with your PBH of 
90.5cm. For me, last fall, I sold mine, because it was too darn large for 
me to handle with a PBH of 80.1cm. I, in turn, bought a 52cm Clem. It is 
truly more of an enjoyable handling bicycle compared the the 59cm with my 
long torso and short limbs. 

Kim Hetzel. 

On Sunday, July 7, 2024 at 5:51:49 PM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello all! Just wondering if anyone has a current geo version of the Clem 
> frameset that they are looking to move along? I could probably fit a 64 as 
> well but not sure I’d be able to use a Weehoo under the slammed seatpost. I 
> have a 90.5 PBH so I know I can fit the 64, just not sure about the trailer!
>
> Thank you in advance!
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 54-56 Sam Hillborne (i think? my first riv!) but open to other Rivs

['Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 Jacob, 
Others may have to weigh in on this, but I'm inclined to say the chain stay 
length has not changed for the Sam Hillborne - yet. Since the Homer Hilsen did 
get longer, it may just be a matter of time. I own personal preference would 
not to mess with it. Some minor changes were made since my 2015 model, mainly 
the seat cluster. But that is rather a minor aesthetic difference. I think my 
original double top tube 2007 Sam used a different tubing, before their 
"Silver" tubes were introduced.(My guess is the "socket-type" connection used 
on most Riv models now at the seat cluster is easier (cheaper?) to manufacture 
and probably takes less skill / time / labor to braze. (I would like to know if 
one of you RBW frame builders can answer, I would be obliged.)
Paul GermainMidlothian, Va.


On Thursday, July 4, 2024 at 07:08:52 PM EDT, Jacob Yosowitz 
 wrote:   

 I appreciate the responses and resources shared! 
What year did the geometry change for longer chainstays occur on the sam?

On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 5:28:51 AM UTC-4 Jay wrote:

If you happen to be driving to Chicago through Ontario (Canada) you’re welcome 
to try out my Roadini (size 57).

Jason

On Jul 2, 2024, at 9:41 PM, 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch 
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Jacob,


I my size and weight correspond to yours. For ten years, I have owned both a 
Homer and a Sam. The Sam is set up for light touring (under 7 days, but mostly 
2-3 day tours). It also acts as a grocery-getter when I feel inclined. The 
Homer is currently outfitted for county road riding, including "unpavement". 
Both bikes sport VO fenders with 38mm tires + - so you can easily go wider if 
you wish to go without fenders. Both bikes are "pre-long chain stay" design, 
but nonetheless are probably close enough to what you will buy new, if that is 
your choice. I can tell you that the Sam will suit your needs just fine. While 
the Homer has a slightly more lively feel, it could possibly do light and 
credit card touring, but would limit you for longer tours loaded with gear. You 
obviously - like me - enjoy the esthetics of a bike, so either of these would 
offer that treat too. I hope you report back here often with the same 
enthusiasm you've shared above.Paul GermainMidlothian, Va.
On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 8:58:34 PM UTC-4 jyos...@gmail.com wrote:

I have admired Rivendell bikes since I first saw a homer parked outside of my 
local food co op




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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 54-56 Sam Hillborne (i think? my first riv!) but open to other Rivs

[Jacob Yosowitz]

I appreciate the responses and resources shared! 
What year did the geometry change for longer chainstays occur on the sam?

On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 5:28:51 AM UTC-4 Jay wrote:

> If you happen to be driving to Chicago through Ontario (Canada) you’re 
> welcome to try out my Roadini (size 57).
>
> Jason
>
> On Jul 2, 2024, at 9:41 PM, 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Jacob,
>
>
> I my size and weight correspond to yours. For ten years, I have owned both 
> a Homer and a Sam. 
> The Sam is set up for light touring (under 7 days, but mostly 2-3 day 
> tours). It also acts as a grocery-getter when I feel inclined. 
> The Homer is currently outfitted for county road riding, including 
> "unpavement". 
> Both bikes sport VO fenders with 38mm tires + - so you can easily go wider 
> if you wish to go without fenders. Both bikes are "pre-long chain stay" 
> design, but nonetheless are probably close enough to what you will buy new, 
> if that is your choice. 
> I can tell you that the Sam will suit your needs just fine. While the 
> Homer has a slightly more lively feel, it could possibly do light and 
> credit card touring, but would limit you for longer tours loaded with gear. 
> You obviously - like me - enjoy the esthetics of a bike, so either of these 
> would offer that treat too. I hope you report back here often with the same 
> enthusiasm you've shared above.
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
> On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 8:58:34 PM UTC-4 jyos...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I have admired Rivendell bikes since I first saw a homer parked outside of 
> my local food co op
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[RBW] Re: WTB: 58cm top tube road-ish/all-rounder frameset

[CMR]

Thanks for the shout-out, Bill!

Here is the listing, I am happy to answer any questions:
https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/5w8Kw7HTLvA/m/1AEx5_75AQAJ

-Chris


On Thursday, July 4, 2024 at 12:57:14 PM UTC-7 Jim M. wrote:

> 58 A. Homer Hilsen just posted on I-BOB 
> https://groups.google.com/g/internet-bob/c/uSH0M58Fchs
>
>
> On Thursday, July 4, 2024 at 11:19:42 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> k.
>>
>> I recommend you type "Rosco-Bubbe Road" into the search bar, and find the 
>> bike that CMR (Chris) is selling.  I used to own it and I can vouch that 
>> it's a sneaky nice bike.  It may not be expensive enough, but it's a good 
>> bike.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Thursday, July 4, 2024 at 9:56:19 AM UTC-7 kirkebc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Looking for a frameset with around a 58cm top tube (effective). 
>>>
>>> Preferably steel, lugged/fillet brazed
>>> Clearance for 38-42mm tires, bigger could be fine too
>>> Gently sloping top tube a plus
>>> No disc brakes!
>>>
>>> Will be built up as a relaxed road/all-rounder. A Rivendell or something 
>>> Riv-ish would be perfect. Let me know what you have! 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -k. 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: 58cm top tube road-ish/all-rounder frameset

[Jim M.]

58 A. Homer Hilsen just posted on 
I-BOB https://groups.google.com/g/internet-bob/c/uSH0M58Fchs


On Thursday, July 4, 2024 at 11:19:42 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> k.
>
> I recommend you type "Rosco-Bubbe Road" into the search bar, and find the 
> bike that CMR (Chris) is selling.  I used to own it and I can vouch that 
> it's a sneaky nice bike.  It may not be expensive enough, but it's a good 
> bike.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, July 4, 2024 at 9:56:19 AM UTC-7 kirkebc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Looking for a frameset with around a 58cm top tube (effective). 
>>
>> Preferably steel, lugged/fillet brazed
>> Clearance for 38-42mm tires, bigger could be fine too
>> Gently sloping top tube a plus
>> No disc brakes!
>>
>> Will be built up as a relaxed road/all-rounder. A Rivendell or something 
>> Riv-ish would be perfect. Let me know what you have! 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -k. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 58cm top tube road-ish/all-rounder frameset

[Bill Lindsay]

k.

I recommend you type "Rosco-Bubbe Road" into the search bar, and find the 
bike that CMR (Chris) is selling.  I used to own it and I can vouch that 
it's a sneaky nice bike.  It may not be expensive enough, but it's a good 
bike.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, July 4, 2024 at 9:56:19 AM UTC-7 kirkebc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Looking for a frameset with around a 58cm top tube (effective). 
>
> Preferably steel, lugged/fillet brazed
> Clearance for 38-42mm tires, bigger could be fine too
> Gently sloping top tube a plus
> No disc brakes!
>
> Will be built up as a relaxed road/all-rounder. A Rivendell or something 
> Riv-ish would be perfect. Let me know what you have! 
>
> Thanks,
> -k. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 54-56 Sam Hillborne (i think? my first riv!) but open to other Rivs

[Jason Noonievut]

If you happen to be driving to Chicago through Ontario (Canada) you’re welcome to try out my Roadini (size 57).JasonOn Jul 2, 2024, at 9:41 PM, 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:Jacob,I my size and weight correspond to yours. For ten years, I have owned both a Homer and a Sam. The Sam is set up for light touring (under 7 days, but mostly 2-3 day tours). It also acts as a grocery-getter when I feel inclined. The Homer is currently outfitted for county road riding, including "unpavement". Both bikes sport VO fenders with 38mm tires + - so you can easily go wider if you wish to go without fenders. Both bikes are "pre-long chain stay" design, but nonetheless are probably close enough to what you will buy new, if that is your choice. I can tell you that the Sam will suit your needs just fine. While the Homer has a slightly more lively feel, it could possibly do light and credit card touring, but would limit you for longer tours loaded with gear. You obviously - like me - enjoy the esthetics of a bike, so either of these would offer that treat too. I hope you report back here often with the same enthusiasm you've shared above.Paul GermainMidlothian, Va.On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 8:58:34 PM UTC-4 jyos...@gmail.com wrote:I have admired Rivendell bikes since I first saw a homer parked outside of my local food co op



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[RBW] Re: WTB: 54-56 Sam Hillborne (i think? my first riv!) but open to other Rivs

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Jacob,

I my size and weight correspond to yours. For ten years, I have owned both 
a Homer and a Sam. 
The Sam is set up for light touring (under 7 days, but mostly 2-3 day 
tours). It also acts as a grocery-getter when I feel inclined. 
The Homer is currently outfitted for county road riding, including 
"unpavement". 
Both bikes sport VO fenders with 38mm tires + - so you can easily go wider 
if you wish to go without fenders. Both bikes are "pre-long chain stay" 
design, but nonetheless are probably close enough to what you will buy new, 
if that is your choice. 
I can tell you that the Sam will suit your needs just fine. While the Homer 
has a slightly more lively feel, it could possibly do light and credit card 
touring, but would limit you for longer tours loaded with gear. You 
obviously - like me - enjoy the esthetics of a bike, so either of these 
would offer that treat too. I hope you report back here often with the same 
enthusiasm you've shared above.
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 8:58:34 PM UTC-4 jyos...@gmail.com wrote:

I have admired Rivendell bikes since I first saw a homer parked outside of 
my local food co op

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 54-56 Sam Hillborne (i think? my first riv!) but open to other Rivs

[Roberta]

It's very exciting especially when the anticipation is high and the 
resulting bike is even better.

Analog Cycles in VT may have some built up.  I think Maine Bike Works is 
also a dealer.  I do believe that there is a Homer riding guy at Keystone 
bikes in Philadelphia, but they aren't a Riv dealer, yet.  Isn't there some 
fabulous dealer in Chicago--Mack's?  
https://www.rivbike.com/pages/dealers?_pos=1&_sid=1f17f0872&_ss=r 

I was lucky enough to be able to try a number of models in my size when 
Analog was located in MD.  I've had enough to know my Riv sizing.  Lastly, 
perhaps a trip to HQ?  You won't even need to rent a car to visit them.  

I think a Sam would be an excellent choice for you based on your needs and 
wants.

Roberta

On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 8:58:34 PM UTC-4 jyos...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have admired Rivendell bikes since I first saw a homer parked outside of 
> my local food co op a few years back, set up with nitto albastache bars and 
> I thought what is THAT?! I was enthralled by the lugs, the thin steel road 
> like frame rocking fat tires, and the bars. love at first sight!
>
> My current collection includes a lovely purple waterford road bike i 
> inherited from my grandpa, he had great taste. I love zipping around on 
> that no frills frame. And a '85 schwinn high sierra set up as a commuter. I 
> purchased it for touring but find it a bit unstable and wonky geometry for 
> long rides. 
>
> I'm ready to bite the bullet and purchase a rivendell. I think id be happy 
> on a Sam, I want something with a bit of zip, but still able to load up for 
> tours and exploration. I'm only 150lbs so i feel like i could get away with 
> a Sam for touring as opposed to one of the heavier more dedicated touring 
> models. Would love any input.
>
> My pbh is 86 and I live in Maine right now, but willing to drive some 
> distance for the right bike. I'll be in chicago in mid july as well 
> visiting family, so can set something up there too.
> Side note: I absolutely love the orange colorway on sam frames, thats my 
> dream bike! if you have one and are willing to part with it, you'd make me 
> a happy camper.
>
> Look forward to hearing from you all! 
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 54-56 Sam Hillborne (i think? my first riv!) but open to other Rivs

[Valerie Yates]

Sam is a great choice. Orange Sam especially. Please heed the warnings 
about anyone who contacts you off list with a bike they are purporting to 
sell. 

Best,
Val in Boulder
On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 6:58:34 PM UTC-6 jyos...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have admired Rivendell bikes since I first saw a homer parked outside of 
> my local food co op a few years back, set up with nitto albastache bars and 
> I thought what is THAT?! I was enthralled by the lugs, the thin steel road 
> like frame rocking fat tires, and the bars. love at first sight!
>
> My current collection includes a lovely purple waterford road bike i 
> inherited from my grandpa, he had great taste. I love zipping around on 
> that no frills frame. And a '85 schwinn high sierra set up as a commuter. I 
> purchased it for touring but find it a bit unstable and wonky geometry for 
> long rides. 
>
> I'm ready to bite the bullet and purchase a rivendell. I think id be happy 
> on a Sam, I want something with a bit of zip, but still able to load up for 
> tours and exploration. I'm only 150lbs so i feel like i could get away with 
> a Sam for touring as opposed to one of the heavier more dedicated touring 
> models. Would love any input.
>
> My pbh is 86 and I live in Maine right now, but willing to drive some 
> distance for the right bike. I'll be in chicago in mid july as well 
> visiting family, so can set something up there too.
> Side note: I absolutely love the orange colorway on sam frames, thats my 
> dream bike! if you have one and are willing to part with it, you'd make me 
> a happy camper.
>
> Look forward to hearing from you all! 
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 52cm Clem Smith Jr

[Kim H.]

Here is a recent post from Doug from this group:

https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/Nmr7ArEliGU

Kim Hetzel.

On Saturday, June 29, 2024 at 9:36:11 AM UTC-7 rau...@gmail.com wrote:

> My wife and I have Rivendell fever after we both tired one for the first 
> time recently. I am looking for a 52cm Clem smith jr for my wife. We are 
> located in Chicago and are willing to pay for shipping and or possibly 
> willing to fly out to purchase it

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 60cm Cheviot (NH+)

[Josh C]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1429598715105228/?ref=search_code=null_story_type=post=browse_serp%3Ac182247c-c59a-414b-b7e2-f3ed5fa3354d

On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 7:31:25 PM UTC-4 Nic in Oslo wrote:

> Great! James and Jason, I’ll be in touch. 
>
> Nic
>
> On Jun 27, 2024, at 13:07, James  wrote:
>
> I emailed ya Nic
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 10:53:20 PM UTC-4 Nic in Oslo wrote:
>
>> That could work. I’ll check it out. Thanks!
>>
>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 20:59, Hoch in ut  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> There is an orange one on Riv Facebook group. There’s also a 58cm Betty 
>> frameset, if that size works. 
>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 6:53:56 PM UTC-6 Nic in Oslo wrote:
>>
>>> If you have a Cheviot that needs a new home I’d love to open mine to 
>>> it. 
>>>
>>> Any color, frame or complete, all’s good. 
>>>
>>> I’m in NH and am more than happy doing a bit of a road trip if you’re in 
>>> the New England area. 
>>>
>>> Nic
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 60cm Cheviot (NH+)

[Nicholas Fox]

Great! James and Jason, I’ll be in touch. NicOn Jun 27, 2024, at 13:07, James  wrote:I emailed ya NicOn Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 10:53:20 PM UTC-4 Nic in Oslo wrote:That could work. I’ll check it out. Thanks!On Jun 26, 2024, at 20:59, Hoch in ut  wrote:There is an orange one on Riv Facebook group. There’s also a 58cm Betty frameset, if that size works. On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 6:53:56 PM UTC-6 Nic in Oslo wrote:If you have a Cheviot that needs a new home I’d love to open mine to it. Any color, frame or complete, all’s good. I’m in NH and am more than happy doing a bit of a road trip if you’re in the New England area. Nic



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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 60cm Cheviot (NH+)

[James]

I emailed ya Nic

On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 10:53:20 PM UTC-4 Nic in Oslo wrote:

> That could work. I’ll check it out. Thanks!
>
> On Jun 26, 2024, at 20:59, Hoch in ut  wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> There is an orange one on Riv Facebook group. There’s also a 58cm Betty 
> frameset, if that size works. 
> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 6:53:56 PM UTC-6 Nic in Oslo wrote:
>
>> If you have a Cheviot that needs a new home I’d love to open mine to it. 
>>
>> Any color, frame or complete, all’s good. 
>>
>> I’m in NH and am more than happy doing a bit of a road trip if you’re in 
>> the New England area. 
>>
>> Nic
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Clem Smith Jr L 52

[Doug H.]

John,
Many thanks. I appreciate your kind and generous offer. I plan to attempt
to find a used one but will keep these new ones in mind.
Doug

On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 10:59 AM John Johnson 
wrote:

> Hi Doug,
>
> I can confirm that La Chouette (Paris) has a 52 in green right now. At
> least their website says so, and they are usually pretty good about keeping
> their stock up to date.
>
> Of course, it's more expensive than buying direct from Riv and then
> there's the whole issue of moving it from France to wherever you are
> located.
>
> I am located in France, I work about 10 minutes from La Chouette, I
> confirm that they are great and super helpful guys, and I'm happy to broker
> on your behalf if you don't find an easier solution (i.e. a used 52
> somewhere in the US).
>
> cheers,
>
> John
>
> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 3:13:02 PM UTC+2 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @Doug,
>>
>> You are more than welcome.
>>
>> Kim.
>>
>> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 3:08:10 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for the info Kim!
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jun 27, 2024, at 12:59 AM, Kim H.  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> @Doug,
>>>
>>> Here is one. You might want to call to verify that it is in stock in
>>> Canada.
>>>
>>> https://www.clcycle.ca/en/cadre-et-fourche-rivendell-clem-l-frame-and-fork.html
>>>
>>> ...or in France:
>>> https://www.lachouetteparis.com/products/rivendell-clem-frame
>>>
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 1:42:11 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 I sold one but now want another one to set up for trail riding. If you
 have a 52 L in any color that you'd like to sell let me know.
 Doug

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Clem Smith Jr L 52

[John Johnson]

Hi Doug,

I can confirm that La Chouette (Paris) has a 52 in green right now. At 
least their website says so, and they are usually pretty good about keeping 
their stock up to date.

Of course, it's more expensive than buying direct from Riv and then there's 
the whole issue of moving it from France to wherever you are located.

I am located in France, I work about 10 minutes from La Chouette, I confirm 
that they are great and super helpful guys, and I'm happy to broker on your 
behalf if you don't find an easier solution (i.e. a used 52 somewhere in 
the US). 

cheers,

John

On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 3:13:02 PM UTC+2 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Doug,
>
> You are more than welcome.
>
> Kim.
>
> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 3:08:10 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Thank you for the info Kim!
>> Doug
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 27, 2024, at 12:59 AM, Kim H.  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> @Doug,
>>
>> Here is one. You might want to call to verify that it is in stock in 
>> Canada.
>>
>> https://www.clcycle.ca/en/cadre-et-fourche-rivendell-clem-l-frame-and-fork.html
>>
>> ...or in France:
>> https://www.lachouetteparis.com/products/rivendell-clem-frame
>>
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 1:42:11 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> I sold one but now want another one to set up for trail riding. If you 
>>> have a 52 L in any color that you'd like to sell let me know.
>>> Doug
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Clem Smith Jr L 52

[Kim H.]

@Doug,

You are more than welcome.

Kim.

On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 3:08:10 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:

> Thank you for the info Kim!
> Doug
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 27, 2024, at 12:59 AM, Kim H.  wrote:
>
> 
>
> @Doug,
>
> Here is one. You might want to call to verify that it is in stock in 
> Canada.
>
> https://www.clcycle.ca/en/cadre-et-fourche-rivendell-clem-l-frame-and-fork.html
>
> ...or in France:
> https://www.lachouetteparis.com/products/rivendell-clem-frame
>
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 1:42:11 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I sold one but now want another one to set up for trail riding. If you 
>> have a 52 L in any color that you'd like to sell let me know.
>> Doug
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Clem Smith Jr L 52

[Doug Hansford]

Thank you for the info Kim!DougSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 27, 2024, at 12:59 AM, Kim H.  wrote:@Doug,Here is one. You might want to call to verify that it is in stock in Canada.https://www.clcycle.ca/en/cadre-et-fourche-rivendell-clem-l-frame-and-fork.html...or in France:https://www.lachouetteparis.com/products/rivendell-clem-frameKim Hetzel.On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 1:42:11 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:I sold one but now want another one to set up for trail riding. If you have a 52 L in any color that you'd like to sell let me know.Doug



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[RBW] Re: WTB: Clem Smith Jr L 52

[Kim H.]

@Doug,

Here is one. You might want to call to verify that it is in stock in Canada.
https://www.clcycle.ca/en/cadre-et-fourche-rivendell-clem-l-frame-and-fork.html

...or in France:
https://www.lachouetteparis.com/products/rivendell-clem-frame


Kim Hetzel.

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> I sold one but now want another one to set up for trail riding. If you 
> have a 52 L in any color that you'd like to sell let me know.
> Doug
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 60cm Cheviot (NH+)

[Nicholas Fox]

That could work. I’ll check it out. Thanks!On Jun 26, 2024, at 20:59, Hoch in ut  wrote:There is an orange one on Riv Facebook group. There’s also a 58cm Betty frameset, if that size works. On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 6:53:56 PM UTC-6 Nic in Oslo wrote:If you have a Cheviot that needs a new home I’d love to open mine to it. Any color, frame or complete, all’s good. I’m in NH and am more than happy doing a bit of a road trip if you’re in the New England area. Nic



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[RBW] Re: WTB: 60cm Cheviot (NH+)

[Hoch in ut]

There is an orange one on Riv Facebook group. There’s also a 58cm Betty 
frameset, if that size works. 
On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 6:53:56 PM UTC-6 Nic in Oslo wrote:

> If you have a Cheviot that needs a new home I’d love to open mine to it. 
>
> Any color, frame or complete, all’s good. 
>
> I’m in NH and am more than happy doing a bit of a road trip if you’re in 
> the New England area. 
>
> Nic
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[RBW] Re: WTB- 200mm bullmoose bars

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Still hoping… 
-Kai

On Monday, June 18, 2018 at 10:54:35 AM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:

> Anybody have a looong bullmoose bar they're not using? I just swapped out 
> bars on my Rosco Bubbe mega mixte and need a few more cm of extension. I've 
> got good stuffs for trade as well, please PM if you can help me out. 
> kaivierstra at gmail.com 
> Thanks 
> -Kai 
> BKNY 

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[RBW] Re: WTB/T Nitto Tallux 5cm Stem

[John Rinker]

I'm going to bump this because I'm still looking. With all the bar swapping 
going on around here, I'm hoping someone might have one of these that needs 
a new home. 

While I'm at it, I'm also looking for some Silver Shifters (1st gen) in 
good shape.

Cheers, John
On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 7:44:49 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:

> Thank you, Michael! This will certainly be my next step after I give the 
> 'reduce, reuse' strategy a go. 
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 3:42:37 PM UTC-8 Michael Connors wrote:
>
>> Crust has 5cm x 250 Technomic stems for $55
>> https://crustbikes.com/collections/stems/products/nitto-technomic-stem
>>
> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 4:59:06 PM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> Gonna bump this 'cause I'm still hoping someone's holding. Cheers. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 10:56:24 AM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>>>
 Good morning,

 Looking to shorten my reach a bit, and I'm wondering if one of you 
 might be holding a Nitto Tallux 5 or 6cm stem (25.4, 225mm). I'm happy to 
 purchase or I have an 8cm, 26.0 for trade.

 Cheers, John

>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Silver 30mm Analog/DISCORD COMPONENTS W(RIGHT) STEM

[NYCbikeguy]

Ah, I have the 0mm version, new. 

On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 11:47:54 AM UTC-4 captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:

> Like it says, I would like to purchase your currently out-of-stock silver 
> 30mm Analog/DISCORD COMPONENTS W(RIGHT) STEM.
>
> Thanks in advance.
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[RBW] Re: wtb: 26.8 seatpost, 120-130mm quill stem

[Ted Durant]

On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 7:18:19 PM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:

A new frame and fork from Riv usually includes a Kaloi seatpost. You might 
want to verify before buying unless your just looking for something 
fancier. 


Yes, your Sam will come with a Kalloy seatpost. The ones in the last batch 
were 300mm.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA

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[RBW] Re: wtb: 26.8 seatpost, 120-130mm quill stem

[Tim Bantham]

A new frame and fork from Riv usually includes a Kaloi seatpost. You might 
want to verify before buying unless your just looking for something 
fancier. 

On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 11:20:18 AM UTC-4 Brent Knepper wrote:

> looks like I've a periwinkle build coming up in the near future, which I 
> should be able to get rollin with my small but intentional parts bin :) in 
> need of a seatpost and stem though!
>
> 26.8 seatpost needs:
> -longer than 250mm
> -15-20mm traditional setback is great, not looking for straight or waybakk
> -weird/funky/vintage/esoteric always encouraged, I can get a $5 used 
> kalloy locally :)
>
> 120-30mm stem needs:
> -120-130 length only, already have some shorter stems if I don't really 
> need a long-o 
> -usual 22.2 quill
> -90º or 7-shape, not lookin for a riser stem
> -150-250mm quill length is fine, don't need to get the bars high or slammed
> -25.4 clamp or faceplate is good, or 26.0 but only with a faceplate is 
> also good (prolly using rons ortho bars for anyone curious)
> -W.F.V.E. also welcomed here
>
> thanks for your consideration!
>
> -Brent in chicago
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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto 32F mini front rack

[Valerie Yates]

Both racks were sold.

On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 1:25:46 PM UTC-6 Bones wrote:

> Rack secured, thanks all!
>
> Bones
>
> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 3:04:20 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Val. I just sent you a message.
>>
>> Bones
>>
>> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 2:19:19 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:
>>
>>> I do. In fact, I have two I've been intending to offer for sale.  $100 
>>> each net to me via paypal or venmo includes shipping in the continental US. 
>>> Shipping elsewhere negotiable. Nuts and bolts not included. 
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20240513_181152653~2.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: PXL_20240513_181201314.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>> Val in Boulder, CO
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 9:27:05 AM UTC-6 Bones wrote:
>>>
 These are hard to come by these days. Does anybody have one they’d be 
 willing to part with?

 Thanks,
 Bones

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 50 cm Roadini

[Doug H.]

The 47 is the previous geometry, I think. I compared the two on Bike 
Insights and there is quite a difference, more so than you'd think between 
the sizes. The 47 has much less stack and the top tube is about 4 cm 
shorter. I'd hold out for a 50 in the newer geometry if I were Leah. The 
newer models can handle wider tires too.
Doug

On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 8:31:18 AM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> I think C have a 47? Not sure how much difference their is compared to a 
> 50 - other then 3cm.
> Just a thought; how about a Roaduno? 
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 14, 2024, at 5:29 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
> wrote:
>
> You guys are the best! Also, funny. Thanks for keeping your eyes peeled - 
> with any luck, we’ll find one during riding season, and if not, there are 
> Roadinis coming to Riv this fall. The Racing Platypus is still plenty up to 
> the task, so I can be patient. 
>
> L
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 1:32:04 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> "I'm sure we'll all try and keep our eyes peeled :)"
>>
>> As a long time Friend Of Leah I take it as a personal affront that I 
>> haven't been able to find this bike for her yet, I've been searching like 
>> it's my JOB. Step up, people! 
>>
>> Joe "it's gotta be here somewhere" Bernard 
>>
>> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 5:27:17 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sure we'll all try and keep our eyes peeled :) 
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 7:23:01 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I am looking to try out a RivRoad bike and specifically, a 50 cm 
 Roadini. I’ve been looking on my own, but no luck so far. I’d like one 
 with 
 drop bars, so I wouldn’t have to swap out the whole setup, as this likely 
 isn’t a forever bike…it’s an experiment. But we’ll see. 

 If you have one for sale, or if you see one for sale, would you help 
 your RivSister out and tell me? 

 Thanks always!
 Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 50 cm Roadini

[Richard Rose]

I think C have a 47? Not sure how much difference their is compared to a 50 - other then 3cm.Just a thought; how about a Roaduno? Sent from my iPhoneOn May 14, 2024, at 5:29 AM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  wrote:You guys are the best! Also, funny. Thanks for keeping your eyes peeled - with any luck, we’ll find one during riding season, and if not, there are Roadinis coming to Riv this fall. The Racing Platypus is still plenty up to the task, so I can be patient. LOn Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 1:32:04 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:"I'm sure we'll all try and keep our eyes peeled :)"As a long time Friend Of Leah I take it as a personal affront that I haven't been able to find this bike for her yet, I've been searching like it's my JOB. Step up, people! Joe "it's gotta be here somewhere" Bernard On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 5:27:17 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:I'm sure we'll all try and keep our eyes peeled :) On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 7:23:01 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:I am looking to try out a RivRoad bike and specifically, a 50 cm Roadini. I’ve been looking on my own, but no luck so far. I’d like one with drop bars, so I wouldn’t have to swap out the whole setup, as this likely isn’t a forever bike…it’s an experiment. But we’ll see. If you have one for sale, or if you see one for sale, would you help your RivSister out and tell me? Thanks always!Leah



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[RBW] Re: WTB: 50 cm Roadini

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

You guys are the best! Also, funny. Thanks for keeping your eyes peeled - 
with any luck, we’ll find one during riding season, and if not, there are 
Roadinis coming to Riv this fall. The Racing Platypus is still plenty up to 
the task, so I can be patient. 
L

On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 1:32:04 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> "I'm sure we'll all try and keep our eyes peeled :)"
>
> As a long time Friend Of Leah I take it as a personal affront that I 
> haven't been able to find this bike for her yet, I've been searching like 
> it's my JOB. Step up, people! 
>
> Joe "it's gotta be here somewhere" Bernard 
>
> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 5:27:17 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>
>> I'm sure we'll all try and keep our eyes peeled :) 
>>
>> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 7:23:01 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am looking to try out a RivRoad bike and specifically, a 50 cm 
>>> Roadini. I’ve been looking on my own, but no luck so far. I’d like one with 
>>> drop bars, so I wouldn’t have to swap out the whole setup, as this likely 
>>> isn’t a forever bike…it’s an experiment. But we’ll see. 
>>>
>>> If you have one for sale, or if you see one for sale, would you help 
>>> your RivSister out and tell me? 
>>>
>>> Thanks always!
>>> Leah
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 50 cm Roadini

[Joe Bernard]

"I'm sure we'll all try and keep our eyes peeled :)"

As a long time Friend Of Leah I take it as a personal affront that I 
haven't been able to find this bike for her yet, I've been searching like 
it's my JOB. Step up, people! 

Joe "it's gotta be here somewhere" Bernard 

On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 5:27:17 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> I'm sure we'll all try and keep our eyes peeled :) 
>
> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 7:23:01 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
>> I am looking to try out a RivRoad bike and specifically, a 50 cm Roadini. 
>> I’ve been looking on my own, but no luck so far. I’d like one with drop 
>> bars, so I wouldn’t have to swap out the whole setup, as this likely isn’t 
>> a forever bike…it’s an experiment. But we’ll see. 
>>
>> If you have one for sale, or if you see one for sale, would you help your 
>> RivSister out and tell me? 
>>
>> Thanks always!
>> Leah
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 50 cm Roadini

[Eric Marth]

Oh and good luck with your search!

On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 8:32:19 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Leah I am excited to hear this because I've been so curious about your 
> strength and speed. If you can keep up with the 17-18mph group on your 
> Platy I'd think you'd be faster than the fast groups on a road bike!
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: 50 cm Roadini

[Eric Marth]

Leah I am excited to hear this because I've been so curious about your 
strength and speed. If you can keep up with the 17-18mph group on your 
Platy I'd think you'd be faster than the fast groups on a road bike!

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 50 cm Roadini

[Ryan]

I'm sure we'll all try and keep our eyes peeled :) 

On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 7:23:01 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> I am looking to try out a RivRoad bike and specifically, a 50 cm Roadini. 
> I’ve been looking on my own, but no luck so far. I’d like one with drop 
> bars, so I wouldn’t have to swap out the whole setup, as this likely isn’t 
> a forever bike…it’s an experiment. But we’ll see. 
>
> If you have one for sale, or if you see one for sale, would you help your 
> RivSister out and tell me? 
>
> Thanks always!
> Leah
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto 32F mini front rack

[Bones]

Rack secured, thanks all!

Bones

On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 3:04:20 PM UTC-4 Bones wrote:

> Thank you, Val. I just sent you a message.
>
> Bones
>
> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 2:19:19 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:
>
>> I do. In fact, I have two I've been intending to offer for sale.  $100 
>> each net to me via paypal or venmo includes shipping in the continental US. 
>> Shipping elsewhere negotiable. Nuts and bolts not included. 
>>
>> [image: PXL_20240513_181152653~2.jpg]
>>
>> [image: PXL_20240513_181201314.jpg]
>>
>>
>> Val in Boulder, CO
>>
>> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 9:27:05 AM UTC-6 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> These are hard to come by these days. Does anybody have one they’d be 
>>> willing to part with?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bones
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto 32F mini front rack

[Bones]

Thank you, Val. I just sent you a message.

Bones

On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 2:19:19 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:

> I do. In fact, I have two I've been intending to offer for sale.  $100 
> each net to me via paypal or venmo includes shipping in the continental US. 
> Shipping elsewhere negotiable. Nuts and bolts not included. 
>
> [image: PXL_20240513_181152653~2.jpg]
>
> [image: PXL_20240513_181201314.jpg]
>
>
> Val in Boulder, CO
>
> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 9:27:05 AM UTC-6 Bones wrote:
>
>> These are hard to come by these days. Does anybody have one they’d be 
>> willing to part with?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bones
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Nitto 32F mini front rack

[Kim H.]

@Bones,

I found this:
https://alexscycle.com/products/nitto-m18-front-carrier-1?_pos=7&_sid=e9b3ea73b&_ss=r
It is similar...

Kim Hetzel.

On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 8:27:05 AM UTC-7 Bones wrote:

> These are hard to come by these days. Does anybody have one they’d be 
> willing to part with?
>
> Thanks,
> Bones
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Hunqapillar 54 / 56 cm

[Hoch in ut]

Fantastic pictures, John. Makes me miss my old 54 Hunq. 

On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 4:32:22 PM UTC-6 John M wrote:

> I'm not Johnny but I used to have a 54 cm Hunqapillar in green and here's 
> an assortment of pictures from tours in New Mexico and Colorado-- mostly 
> the Great Divide Mountain  Bike route.  
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1jT4glIHwK2Ox5C8Eigq2Gcxa08MT_ARE?usp=sharing
>
> Its a great bike!
>
> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 2:57:16 PM UTC-6 J J wrote:
>
>> Hey Johnny, do you have any pics of your Hunq to share? Would love to see 
>> some. (I hope this message is on this thread...?)
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 12:11:28 PM UTC-4 johnny@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Good luck Max. I was on the same quest when an amazing person from this 
>>> group, Matthew Williams, saw one and let me know about it. I posted here 
>>> every ~6 months letting folks know I was still looking and it took a few 
>>> years to find one in my size, but it did happen eventually. It's a cool 
>>> bike, for sure.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 5:44:41 AM UTC-7 Max S wrote:
>>>
 Test-rode one over a decade ago at BBB, shoulda bought it then. Maybe 
 someone's ready to pass theirs on to another good home?.. (Ideally just a 
 frameset)

 - Max "coulda shoulda woulda try againa" in A2

>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Hunqapillar 54 / 56 cm

[J J]

Thanks John and Johnny. Great to see the pics. 

John, some of those trails look pretty challenging, and like a blast. 

Johnny, I remember that salmon/pink/not sure what to call it Hunq from pics 
you posted a while back. It’s unforgettable for sure!

Thanks again. It’ll be nice to start a new “show us your Hunqapillar 
thread” soon. 

On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 7:35:20 PM UTC-4 johnny@gmail.com wrote:

> Those are great John. Here's a quick pic of mine. That was earlier today, 
> when I had the albatross bars. I just switched to Nitto X Crumbworks KT 
> bar, which I have 1/2 installed
>
>
> [image: hunqapillar Medium.jpeg]
>
> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 3:32:22 PM UTC-7 John M wrote:
>
>> I'm not Johnny but I used to have a 54 cm Hunqapillar in green and here's 
>> an assortment of pictures from tours in New Mexico and Colorado-- mostly 
>> the Great Divide Mountain  Bike route.  
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1jT4glIHwK2Ox5C8Eigq2Gcxa08MT_ARE?usp=sharing
>>
>> Its a great bike!
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 2:57:16 PM UTC-6 J J wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Johnny, do you have any pics of your Hunq to share? Would love to 
>>> see some. (I hope this message is on this thread...?)
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 12:11:28 PM UTC-4 johnny@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Good luck Max. I was on the same quest when an amazing person from this 
 group, Matthew Williams, saw one and let me know about it. I posted here 
 every ~6 months letting folks know I was still looking and it took a few 
 years to find one in my size, but it did happen eventually. It's a cool 
 bike, for sure.

 On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 5:44:41 AM UTC-7 Max S wrote:

> Test-rode one over a decade ago at BBB, shoulda bought it then. Maybe 
> someone's ready to pass theirs on to another good home?.. (Ideally just a 
> frameset)
>
> - Max "coulda shoulda woulda try againa" in A2
>


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[RBW] Re: WTB: Hunqapillar 54 / 56 cm

[John M]

I'm not Johnny but I used to have a 54 cm Hunqapillar in green and here's 
an assortment of pictures from tours in New Mexico and Colorado-- mostly 
the Great Divide Mountain  Bike route.  
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1jT4glIHwK2Ox5C8Eigq2Gcxa08MT_ARE?usp=sharing

Its a great bike!

On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 2:57:16 PM UTC-6 J J wrote:

> Hey Johnny, do you have any pics of your Hunq to share? Would love to see 
> some. (I hope this message is on this thread...?)
>
> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 12:11:28 PM UTC-4 johnny@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Good luck Max. I was on the same quest when an amazing person from this 
>> group, Matthew Williams, saw one and let me know about it. I posted here 
>> every ~6 months letting folks know I was still looking and it took a few 
>> years to find one in my size, but it did happen eventually. It's a cool 
>> bike, for sure.
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 5:44:41 AM UTC-7 Max S wrote:
>>
>>> Test-rode one over a decade ago at BBB, shoulda bought it then. Maybe 
>>> someone's ready to pass theirs on to another good home?.. (Ideally just a 
>>> frameset)
>>>
>>> - Max "coulda shoulda woulda try againa" in A2
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Hunqapillar 54 / 56 cm

[J J]

Hey Johnny, do you have any pics of your Hunq to share? Would love to see 
some. (I hope this message is on this thread...?)

On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 12:11:28 PM UTC-4 johnny@gmail.com wrote:

> Good luck Max. I was on the same quest when an amazing person from this 
> group, Matthew Williams, saw one and let me know about it. I posted here 
> every ~6 months letting folks know I was still looking and it took a few 
> years to find one in my size, but it did happen eventually. It's a cool 
> bike, for sure.
>
> On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 5:44:41 AM UTC-7 Max S wrote:
>
>> Test-rode one over a decade ago at BBB, shoulda bought it then. Maybe 
>> someone's ready to pass theirs on to another good home?.. (Ideally just a 
>> frameset)
>>
>> - Max "coulda shoulda woulda try againa" in A2
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Hunqapillar 54 / 56 cm

[Johnny Burrell]

Good luck Max. I was on the same quest when an amazing person from this 
group, Matthew Williams, saw one and let me know about it. I posted here 
every ~6 months letting folks know I was still looking and it took a few 
years to find one in my size, but it did happen eventually. It's a cool 
bike, for sure.

On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 5:44:41 AM UTC-7 Max S wrote:

> Test-rode one over a decade ago at BBB, shoulda bought it then. Maybe 
> someone's ready to pass theirs on to another good home?.. (Ideally just a 
> frameset)
>
> - Max "coulda shoulda woulda try againa" in A2
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto R10, R14 or RBW 51

[Tim Bantham]

I am all set on my rack needs. Thank you everyone. 

On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 3:29:58 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I would be interested in an RBW51 for my Roadini if this sale does not 
> happen.
> Doug
>
> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 6:21:11 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> OK I tried emailing you 
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 1:47:02 PM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>>> R10 found! @Bill I didn't receive your PM. Checked junk folder but 
>>> nothing. Please try again when you are able. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 1:02:32 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 I messaged you regarding an RBW51 in my holdings.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 6:19:22 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:

> In the market for a a rear rack for two separate bikes. 
>
> A Nitto R-10 and R14 would work great! Anyone have one collecting dust?
>


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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto R10, R14 or RBW 51

[Doug H.]

I would be interested in an RBW51 for my Roadini if this sale does not 
happen.
Doug

On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 6:21:11 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> OK I tried emailing you 
>
> Bill
>
> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 1:47:02 PM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> R10 found! @Bill I didn't receive your PM. Checked junk folder but 
>> nothing. Please try again when you are able. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 1:02:32 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> I messaged you regarding an RBW51 in my holdings.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 6:19:22 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>>
 In the market for a a rear rack for two separate bikes. 

 A Nitto R-10 and R14 would work great! Anyone have one collecting dust?

>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB/ Rear Rack Advice

[NYCbikeguy]

Oh, I also have an AR, so I may be able to mock-fit the rack to the bike to 
show you how it would look. Let me know!

On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 2:26:17 PM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:

> I have a tubus logo evo in black. the 2-tiered system allows for lower 
> center of gravity for panniers, as well as no overlap between the panniers 
> and whatever you load on top of the rack, and the lower tier is off-set 
> towards the rear so as to minimize heel contact. I can take pics later in 
> the evening if you send me a DM. I'm planning on selling for $70 + 
> shipping. 
>
> https://www.tubus.com/en/products/rear-carriers/tubus-product/logo-evo
>
> Best,
> Isaiah, NYC
>
> On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 12:34:33 PM UTC-4 chefd...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Looking for a rear rack for my trusty All Rounder, something that will 
>> support panniers for some summer excursions...perhaps something like the 
>> Shiny Rear Rack. Does anyone have an extra they would be looking to 
>> offload? Or, suggestion for something more appropriate? 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB/ Rear Rack Advice

[NYCbikeguy]

I have a tubus logo evo in black. the 2-tiered system allows for lower 
center of gravity for panniers, as well as no overlap between the panniers 
and whatever you load on top of the rack, and the lower tier is off-set 
towards the rear so as to minimize heel contact. I can take pics later in 
the evening if you send me a DM. I'm planning on selling for $70 + 
shipping. 

https://www.tubus.com/en/products/rear-carriers/tubus-product/logo-evo

Best,
Isaiah, NYC

On Friday, May 3, 2024 at 12:34:33 PM UTC-4 chefd...@gmail.com wrote:

> Looking for a rear rack for my trusty All Rounder, something that will 
> support panniers for some summer excursions...perhaps something like the 
> Shiny Rear Rack. Does anyone have an extra they would be looking to 
> offload? Or, suggestion for something more appropriate? 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 56 Rambouillet

[Armand Kizirian]

https://radbazaar.theradavist.com/listing/Jx8ftHgLf6fDD5slbSeN?category=undefined=undefined

On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 1:38:09 PM UTC-7 dylantho...@gmail.com wrote:

> Helping out a friend who is looking for a Ram in 56. 
>
> thanks!
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto R10, R14 or RBW 51

[Bill Lindsay]

OK I tried emailing you 

Bill

On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 1:47:02 PM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:

> R10 found! @Bill I didn't receive your PM. Checked junk folder but 
> nothing. Please try again when you are able. 
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 1:02:32 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I messaged you regarding an RBW51 in my holdings.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 6:19:22 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>>> In the market for a a rear rack for two separate bikes. 
>>>
>>> A Nitto R-10 and R14 would work great! Anyone have one collecting dust?
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto R10, R14 or RBW 51

[Tim Bantham]

R10 found! @Bill I didn't receive your PM. Checked junk folder but nothing. 
Please try again when you are able. 



On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 1:02:32 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I messaged you regarding an RBW51 in my holdings.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, April 30, 2024 at 6:19:22 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> In the market for a a rear rack for two separate bikes. 
>>
>> A Nitto R-10 and R14 would work great! Anyone have one collecting dust?
>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto R10, R14 or RBW 51

[Bill Lindsay]

I messaged you regarding an RBW51 in my holdings.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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> In the market for a a rear rack for two separate bikes. 
>
> A Nitto R-10 and R14 would work great! Anyone have one collecting dust?
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[RBW] Re: WTB: 700c wheelset (135mm rear) for Homer

[Robert Calton]

Found a good deal on a pair of Atlas/WI wheels. Thanks all for the feedback 
and offers and I look forward to posting the new build next month :) 

On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 3:42:54 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Maybe?
>
> Several years back I sold a Complete Toyo Atlantis to a neighbor.  I sold 
> the whole bike for $1900 and now looking at it through a 2024 lens, I gave 
> it away.  I reached out to my neighbor to see if he'd sell it back.  My 
> neighbor indicated he lives overseas for now, and that he sold the frame 
> set for $1400 a while back. The build kit is still in his garage, around 
> the corner from me.  I've asked him to sell me back the build kit, and I'm 
> awaiting his response on that.  If I procure that build kit, the wheel set 
> would be sensational on a 700c Hilsen.  Nothing is assured quite yet.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA 
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 12:11:36 PM UTC-7 Robert Calton wrote:
>
>> Excited to assemble my upcoming Homer (first Riv!), but Velocity is 
>> backordered on the Atlas rims and it might be a month or more until I could 
>> get a pair. I'm curious if anyone here might have a wheelset for sale that 
>> would fit. 
>>
>> I plan on using 43mm tires and Paul centerpull brakes, 8sp Shimano 
>> cassette, would need a 135mm rear spacing. 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Johnny Alien]

The Dream bar was the classic standard drop bar made for Rivendell by 
Nitto. If I remember correctly its what they offered prior to the Noodle. 
It was sold along with the Noodle bar for a bit before they just dropped it 
because the Noodle was the drop they would suggest over all others. 

On Saturday, April 27, 2024 at 7:32:41 AM UTC-4 captaincon...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Thanks for the clarification.  My posts weren't meant to be adversarial, 
> just pedantic.  I came into Riv via EcoVelo ~2010, and I didn't own my 
> first Riv until 2013, so the "Soba" predates me, and I thought that y'all 
> were using it colloquially for "So Bar"--the marketing content from Sim 
> Works makes references to literal soba noodles.  I'm curious if the 
> contemporary "So Bar" is inspired by the "Soba".
>
>
> Fair winds,
>
> Captain Conway Bennett
> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
> On Sat, Apr 27, 2024, 12:48 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> The Simworks So Bar is a handlebar that resembles a Nitto Noodle but in a 
>> wide width that was made in the late 2010s and early 2020s
>>
>> The Nitto Soba Noodle is a completely different handlebar that was made 
>> by Nitto and offered by Rivendell in the mid to late 2000s 
>>
>> Do not conflate the two.  This thread and WTB is focused on the Nitto 
>> Soba Noodle -NOT- the Simworks So Bar. 
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:40:48 PM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the So Bar came out in the fall of 2018.  Here's the intro from 
>>> Sim Works:
>>>
>>> https://sim-works.com/en/news/ramen-nope-i-take-so-bar
>>>
>>> They also appear to have a sleeve.  But I've never owned the So Bar, so 
>>> I don't know what the production model was like in practice.  I had a 50 cm 
>>> Rando Bar from Velo Orange that I really liked at the time the So Bar was 
>>> released, and that's why I didn't buy it, but I love 50 cm + drop bars.
>>>
>>> It seems as though there is plans for a new iteration of the So Bar.  
>>> Sim Works USA wrote, "These were a very popular bar that we've temporarily 
>>> discontinued while we make some changes to a new version."
>>>
>>> I'm a bit of a Noodle/drop bar connoisseur myself.  I currently in use 
>>> the Crust Nullabar on my Monstercross, Sim Works Wild Honey on my Lightning 
>>> Bolt, and Ritchey Corralitos on my Hunqapillar.  I wish the Fairweather All 
>>> Road 174 AA bar was offered in a wider size, but my criticism of the 54 cm 
>>> Noodle is that it lost the back sweep that enjoyed in the Noodle as it got 
>>> wider.
>>>
>>>
>>> Fair winds,
>>>
>>> Captain Conway Bennett
>>> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:32 PM Conway Bennett  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are 
 listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding 
 was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm 
 offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54 
 centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv 
 regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate 
 the 
 26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather 
 174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm 
 ones 
 off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be 
 my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the 
 Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.

 On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell 
> them.  Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  
> That's 
> my advice.  ;)
>
> BL in EC
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Conway Bennett]

Bill,

Thanks for the clarification.  My posts weren't meant to be adversarial,
just pedantic.  I came into Riv via EcoVelo ~2010, and I didn't own my
first Riv until 2013, so the "Soba" predates me, and I thought that y'all
were using it colloquially for "So Bar"--the marketing content from Sim
Works makes references to literal soba noodles.  I'm curious if the
contemporary "So Bar" is inspired by the "Soba".


Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett
239.877.4119

On Sat, Apr 27, 2024, 12:48 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> The Simworks So Bar is a handlebar that resembles a Nitto Noodle but in a
> wide width that was made in the late 2010s and early 2020s
>
> The Nitto Soba Noodle is a completely different handlebar that was made by
> Nitto and offered by Rivendell in the mid to late 2000s
>
> Do not conflate the two.  This thread and WTB is focused on the Nitto Soba
> Noodle -NOT- the Simworks So Bar.
>
> BL in EC
>
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:40:48 PM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I think the So Bar came out in the fall of 2018.  Here's the intro from
>> Sim Works:
>>
>> https://sim-works.com/en/news/ramen-nope-i-take-so-bar
>>
>> They also appear to have a sleeve.  But I've never owned the So Bar, so I
>> don't know what the production model was like in practice.  I had a 50 cm
>> Rando Bar from Velo Orange that I really liked at the time the So Bar was
>> released, and that's why I didn't buy it, but I love 50 cm + drop bars.
>>
>> It seems as though there is plans for a new iteration of the So Bar.  Sim
>> Works USA wrote, "These were a very popular bar that we've temporarily
>> discontinued while we make some changes to a new version."
>>
>> I'm a bit of a Noodle/drop bar connoisseur myself.  I currently in use
>> the Crust Nullabar on my Monstercross, Sim Works Wild Honey on my Lightning
>> Bolt, and Ritchey Corralitos on my Hunqapillar.  I wish the Fairweather All
>> Road 174 AA bar was offered in a wider size, but my criticism of the 54 cm
>> Noodle is that it lost the back sweep that enjoyed in the Noodle as it got
>> wider.
>>
>>
>> Fair winds,
>>
>> Captain Conway Bennett
>> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:32 PM Conway Bennett 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are
>>> listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding
>>> was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm
>>> offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54
>>> centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv
>>> regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate the
>>> 26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather
>>> 174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm ones
>>> off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be
>>> my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the
>>> Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell
 them.  Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's
 my advice.  ;)

 BL in EC

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Igor]

Retro-Gression sells both the Noodle (Which is the M177) and the Dream 
(M176). Both, per the description, are designed by Rivendell, and I notice 
that the M176 is 26mm clamp, has a 140mm drop/90mm reach - is this the Soba 
or something 
else? https://www.retro-gression.com/products/nitto-m176-dream-handlebar 

On Saturday, April 27, 2024 at 1:48:11 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The Simworks So Bar is a handlebar that resembles a Nitto Noodle but in a 
> wide width that was made in the late 2010s and early 2020s
>
> The Nitto Soba Noodle is a completely different handlebar that was made by 
> Nitto and offered by Rivendell in the mid to late 2000s 
>
> Do not conflate the two.  This thread and WTB is focused on the Nitto Soba 
> Noodle -NOT- the Simworks So Bar. 
>
> BL in EC
>
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:40:48 PM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I think the So Bar came out in the fall of 2018.  Here's the intro from 
>> Sim Works:
>>
>> https://sim-works.com/en/news/ramen-nope-i-take-so-bar
>>
>> They also appear to have a sleeve.  But I've never owned the So Bar, so I 
>> don't know what the production model was like in practice.  I had a 50 cm 
>> Rando Bar from Velo Orange that I really liked at the time the So Bar was 
>> released, and that's why I didn't buy it, but I love 50 cm + drop bars.
>>
>> It seems as though there is plans for a new iteration of the So Bar.  Sim 
>> Works USA wrote, "These were a very popular bar that we've temporarily 
>> discontinued while we make some changes to a new version."
>>
>> I'm a bit of a Noodle/drop bar connoisseur myself.  I currently in use 
>> the Crust Nullabar on my Monstercross, Sim Works Wild Honey on my Lightning 
>> Bolt, and Ritchey Corralitos on my Hunqapillar.  I wish the Fairweather All 
>> Road 174 AA bar was offered in a wider size, but my criticism of the 54 cm 
>> Noodle is that it lost the back sweep that enjoyed in the Noodle as it got 
>> wider.
>>
>>
>> Fair winds,
>>
>> Captain Conway Bennett
>> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:32 PM Conway Bennett  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are 
>>> listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding 
>>> was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm 
>>> offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54 
>>> centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv 
>>> regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate the 
>>> 26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather 
>>> 174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm ones 
>>> off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be 
>>> my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the 
>>> Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell 
 them.  Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's 
 my advice.  ;)

 BL in EC

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Bill Lindsay]

The Simworks So Bar is a handlebar that resembles a Nitto Noodle but in a 
wide width that was made in the late 2010s and early 2020s

The Nitto Soba Noodle is a completely different handlebar that was made by 
Nitto and offered by Rivendell in the mid to late 2000s 

Do not conflate the two.  This thread and WTB is focused on the Nitto Soba 
Noodle -NOT- the Simworks So Bar. 

BL in EC


On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:40:48 PM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:

> I think the So Bar came out in the fall of 2018.  Here's the intro from 
> Sim Works:
>
> https://sim-works.com/en/news/ramen-nope-i-take-so-bar
>
> They also appear to have a sleeve.  But I've never owned the So Bar, so I 
> don't know what the production model was like in practice.  I had a 50 cm 
> Rando Bar from Velo Orange that I really liked at the time the So Bar was 
> released, and that's why I didn't buy it, but I love 50 cm + drop bars.
>
> It seems as though there is plans for a new iteration of the So Bar.  Sim 
> Works USA wrote, "These were a very popular bar that we've temporarily 
> discontinued while we make some changes to a new version."
>
> I'm a bit of a Noodle/drop bar connoisseur myself.  I currently in use the 
> Crust Nullabar on my Monstercross, Sim Works Wild Honey on my Lightning 
> Bolt, and Ritchey Corralitos on my Hunqapillar.  I wish the Fairweather All 
> Road 174 AA bar was offered in a wider size, but my criticism of the 54 cm 
> Noodle is that it lost the back sweep that enjoyed in the Noodle as it got 
> wider.
>
>
> Fair winds,
>
> Captain Conway Bennett
> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:32 PM Conway Bennett  
> wrote:
>
>> Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are 
>> listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding 
>> was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm 
>> offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54 
>> centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv 
>> regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate the 
>> 26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather 
>> 174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm ones 
>> off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be 
>> my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the 
>> Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.
>>
>> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell them.  
>>> Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's my 
>>> advice.  ;)
>>>
>>> BL in EC
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Conway Bennett]

I think the So Bar came out in the fall of 2018.  Here's the intro from Sim
Works:

https://sim-works.com/en/news/ramen-nope-i-take-so-bar

They also appear to have a sleeve.  But I've never owned the So Bar, so I
don't know what the production model was like in practice.  I had a 50 cm
Rando Bar from Velo Orange that I really liked at the time the So Bar was
released, and that's why I didn't buy it, but I love 50 cm + drop bars.

It seems as though there is plans for a new iteration of the So Bar.  Sim
Works USA wrote, "These were a very popular bar that we've temporarily
discontinued while we make some changes to a new version."

I'm a bit of a Noodle/drop bar connoisseur myself.  I currently in use the
Crust Nullabar on my Monstercross, Sim Works Wild Honey on my Lightning
Bolt, and Ritchey Corralitos on my Hunqapillar.  I wish the Fairweather All
Road 174 AA bar was offered in a wider size, but my criticism of the 54 cm
Noodle is that it lost the back sweep that enjoyed in the Noodle as it got
wider.


Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett
239.877.4119

On Fri, Apr 26, 2024, 5:32 PM Conway Bennett 
wrote:

> Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are
> listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding
> was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm
> offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54
> centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv
> regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate the
> 26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather
> 174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm ones
> off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be
> my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the
> Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell them.
>> Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's my
>> advice.  ;)
>>
>> BL in EC
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Johnny Alien]

When RIvendell sold them back in the day I think Grant said they were about 
60g lighter than a standard noodle bar. That is right in line with what you 
found, Bill.

On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 7:26:39 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> "Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?"  
>
> They were already out of production when I came in 2009.  If I type "Nitto 
> Soba Noodle" into the googler, I get hits to bike forums in 2007 discussing 
> them.   At that time they are talking about how the regular Noodle mod 177 
> is the heavier cheaper version, and the Soba Noodle is in Nittos 
> "ultralight" flavor.  
>
> There are 9 of them in my garage right now.  8 are on bikes, and 1 is 
> loose.  7 are Mod 177 Noodles, and 2 are the Soba Noodle.  The shape is 
> identical.  I guess you'd just have to take my word for it.  I'm kind of a 
> Noodle zealot.  Most of the 9 in my garage are 460mm and a couple are 
> 440mm.  
>
> The loose bar is the model 177 regular Noodle.  It has 460 stamped in the 
> end and it measures 460mm center to center.  The Soba Noodle that went on 
> my new Roadeo had 460 stamped in the end and it also measures 460mm center 
> to center.  The regular Noodle has a "sleeve" in the middle, with embossed 
> Nitto graphics into the metal of the sleeve.  The Soba Noodle has a bulge 
> in the middle, and the Nitto graphics are black ink or similar printing on 
> the metal.  My build notes indicate I weighed the Soba Noodle at 310g.  The 
> loose regular 460mm Noodle weighs 372g on the same gram scale just now.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA 
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 3:32:19 PM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are 
>> listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding 
>> was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm 
>> offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54 
>> centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv 
>> regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate the 
>> 26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather 
>> 174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm ones 
>> off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be 
>> my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the 
>> Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.
>>
>> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell them. 
>>>  Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's my 
>>> advice.  ;)
>>>
>>> BL in EC
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Bill Lindsay]

"Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?"  

They were already out of production when I came in 2009.  If I type "Nitto 
Soba Noodle" into the googler, I get hits to bike forums in 2007 discussing 
them.   At that time they are talking about how the regular Noodle mod 177 
is the heavier cheaper version, and the Soba Noodle is in Nittos 
"ultralight" flavor.  

There are 9 of them in my garage right now.  8 are on bikes, and 1 is 
loose.  7 are Mod 177 Noodles, and 2 are the Soba Noodle.  The shape is 
identical.  I guess you'd just have to take my word for it.  I'm kind of a 
Noodle zealot.  Most of the 9 in my garage are 460mm and a couple are 
440mm.  

The loose bar is the model 177 regular Noodle.  It has 460 stamped in the 
end and it measures 460mm center to center.  The Soba Noodle that went on 
my new Roadeo had 460 stamped in the end and it also measures 460mm center 
to center.  The regular Noodle has a "sleeve" in the middle, with embossed 
Nitto graphics into the metal of the sleeve.  The Soba Noodle has a bulge 
in the middle, and the Nitto graphics are black ink or similar printing on 
the metal.  My build notes indicate I weighed the Soba Noodle at 310g.  The 
loose regular 460mm Noodle weighs 372g on the same gram scale just now.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA 

On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 3:32:19 PM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:

> Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are 
> listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding 
> was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm 
> offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54 
> centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv 
> regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate the 
> 26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather 
> 174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm ones 
> off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be 
> my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the 
> Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.
>
> On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell them. 
>>  Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's my 
>> advice.  ;)
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Conway Bennett]

Where did y'all read these were a lightweight Nitto Noodle?  They are 
listed at 380 grams which is inline with other Noodles.  My understanding 
was they were 50 cm wide--two cm wider than the then widest 48 cm 
offering.  Then, Riv went all 7 minute abs and released the 52 and 54 
centimeter variants.  I recently had a conversation with someone at Riv 
regarding the widest Noodles who said that Nitto is trying to deprecate the 
26.0 clamp diameter.  I personally have had 46 cm Noodles, the Fairweather 
174AA short shallow Noodle in 46 cm, and this week I swapped the 54 cm ones 
off my Hunqapillar in favor of the new Ritchey Corralitos bar which may be 
my favorite drop bar for a longish top tube bike.  I wanted to like the 
Noodle, but they have too much drop for me.

On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 5:09:51 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell them. 
>  Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's my 
> advice.  ;)
>
> BL in EC
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Bill Lindsay]

I absolutely snatch them up whenever I see them, and I never sell them. 
 Buy the good stuff when it's available, before you need it.  That's my 
advice.  ;)

BL in EC

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Johnny Alien]

Look at Bill just strolling in and flexing about his super stash of these 
bars.  :)

It looks like I might have a line on one but I agree that they would knock 
these out quick if they did a small release of them.

On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 3:16:45 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I've got three of them in my stable, and would buy several more.  I've 
> told Grant at least once that if he got Nitto to make 200 of them, and he 
> did a presale at $150, that I bet he could pre-sell them before any of them 
> actually get made.  That would be a nice $30,000 cash flow exercise.  I'm 
> sure there are barriers to doing such a thing that I don't know, but the 
> $140 MSRP on Rene Herse bars certainly suggests that $150 is a price point 
> that would make sense for all involved.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 10:00:31 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Every once and awhile I decide I want to search for some Soba bars again. 
>> This is the lightweight version of the Noodle handlebars. Anyone have a 
>> spare one they want to unload? Not really concerned about width.
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: 700c wheelset (135mm rear) for Homer

[Bill Lindsay]

Maybe?

Several years back I sold a Complete Toyo Atlantis to a neighbor.  I sold 
the whole bike for $1900 and now looking at it through a 2024 lens, I gave 
it away.  I reached out to my neighbor to see if he'd sell it back.  My 
neighbor indicated he lives overseas for now, and that he sold the frame 
set for $1400 a while back. The build kit is still in his garage, around 
the corner from me.  I've asked him to sell me back the build kit, and I'm 
awaiting his response on that.  If I procure that build kit, the wheel set 
would be sensational on a 700c Hilsen.  Nothing is assured quite yet.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA 

On Friday, April 26, 2024 at 12:11:36 PM UTC-7 Robert Calton wrote:

> Excited to assemble my upcoming Homer (first Riv!), but Velocity is 
> backordered on the Atlas rims and it might be a month or more until I could 
> get a pair. I'm curious if anyone here might have a wheelset for sale that 
> would fit. 
>
> I plan on using 43mm tires and Paul centerpull brakes, 8sp Shimano 
> cassette, would need a 135mm rear spacing. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Bill Lindsay]

I've got three of them in my stable, and would buy several more.  I've told 
Grant at least once that if he got Nitto to make 200 of them, and he did a 
presale at $150, that I bet he could pre-sell them before any of them 
actually get made.  That would be a nice $30,000 cash flow exercise.  I'm 
sure there are barriers to doing such a thing that I don't know, but the 
$140 MSRP on Rene Herse bars certainly suggests that $150 is a price point 
that would make sense for all involved.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 10:00:31 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Every once and awhile I decide I want to search for some Soba bars again. 
> This is the lightweight version of the Noodle handlebars. Anyone have a 
> spare one they want to unload? Not really concerned about width.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soba Handlebars

[Ken Yokanovich]

Another vote for product re-introduction, re-release.

-Ken who is not as concerned about the weight as much as has a preference 
for their simpler aesthetics.

On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 12:00:31 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Every once and awhile I decide I want to search for some Soba bars again. 
> This is the lightweight version of the Noodle handlebars. Anyone have a 
> spare one they want to unload? Not really concerned about width.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 54cm Appaloosa or Sam, or 53cm Atlantis

[Chuck Blessing]

Thanks. That one is not going to work for me, though.

On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 6:31:25 PM UTC-4 nca...@gmail.com wrote:

> Theres a 53 Atlantis in Columbus on the facebook group.  Thats just a hop 
> skip from you. 
>
> On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 6:27:36 PM UTC-4 cfic...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Preferably with swept bars (Choco, Losco, Billie, etc) or possibly frame 
>> only. I'm in Cincinnati, OH and could travel a reasonable distance to pick 
>> up, or shipping is possible. Also will be traveling to Kansas City, KS in 
>> June and could pick up along that route, as well. 
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: 54cm Appaloosa or Sam, or 53cm Atlantis

[Robert Calton]

Theres a 53 Atlantis in Columbus on the facebook group.  Thats just a hop 
skip from you. 

On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 6:27:36 PM UTC-4 cfic...@gmail.com wrote:

> Preferably with swept bars (Choco, Losco, Billie, etc) or possibly frame 
> only. I'm in Cincinnati, OH and could travel a reasonable distance to pick 
> up, or shipping is possible. Also will be traveling to Kansas City, KS in 
> June and could pick up along that route, as well. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB Atlantis 53cm, Homer 54.5cm, frame or complete

[Robert Calton]

Also very interested in a Hillborne 52/54

On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 2:36:15 AM UTC-4 Robert Calton wrote:

> Looking for an Atlantis in 53cm or Homer in 54.5cm, frame or complete. I'm 
> in the Boston metro or I'll cover shipping. 
>
> Thank you for your time and consideration. :) 

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB - 9spd Dura Ace downtube shifters

[John Dewey]

Who among us has used Dura-Ace 9-speed dt levers long enough to ‘wear them
out’?

And if so, how long?

Jock

On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 2:28 PM Ted Durant  wrote:

> On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 2:48:19 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

Also, you can get brand new 9sp bar cons from Rivendell at $140, and
elsewhere for a few dollars less.  Some people run bar cons on their down
tube shifter bosses, and they work long fine.


>  FYI, Grant tells me that he thinks Shimano has stopped making the 9sp
> bar-end shifters "after 25 or 26 years of making them". Get 'em while you
> can, and expect the price to get eye-watering.
>
> And, yes, you can run them on the down tube. Interesting bit of RBW
> history ... I pointed this out to Grant a long time ago, and that the
> opposite was true, that downtube shifters could be mounted on Shimano
> bar-end pods. And thus were born the Silver 1 bar-end shifters.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee WI USA
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB - 9spd Dura Ace downtube shifters

['Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 Many thanks Max. I will r=forward to my friend.
Regards,Paul Germain
On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 05:34:50 PM EDT, maxcr 
 wrote:  
 
 Here's an expensive set NOS 9 speed 7700 model $225 (no connection to the 
seller): 
https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/bop/d/mason-nos-shimano-dura-ace-7700/7721948827.htmlAnd
 a used set at a great price $70 for the 10 speed 7800 model (no connection to 
the seller): 
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bop/d/saint-paul-shimano-dura-ace-sl-speed/7721310412.htmlMax

On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 5:27:57 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:

On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 2:48:19 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

Also, you can get brand new 9sp bar cons from Rivendell at $140, and elsewhere 
for a few dollars less.  Some people run bar cons on their down tube shifter 
bosses, and they work fine.

 FYI, Grant tells me that he thinks Shimano has stopped making the 9sp bar-end 
shifters "after 25 or 26 years of making them". Get 'em while you can, and 
expect the price to get eye-watering. 
And, yes, you can run them on the down tube. Interesting bit of RBW history ... 
I pointed this out to Grant a long time ago, and that the opposite was true, 
that downtube shifters could be mounted on Shimano bar-end pods. And thus were 
born the Silver 1 bar-end shifters.
Ted DurantMilwaukee WI USA 


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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB - 9spd Dura Ace downtube shifters

['Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 Thanks Ted. I will pass this along to my friend.
Regards,Paul Germain


On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 05:28:07 PM EDT, Ted Durant 
 wrote:  
 
 On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 2:48:19 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

Also, you can get brand new 9sp bar cons from Rivendell at $140, and elsewhere 
for a few dollars less.  Some people run bar cons on their down tube shifter 
bosses, and they work fine.

 FYI, Grant tells me that he thinks Shimano has stopped making the 9sp bar-end 
shifters "after 25 or 26 years of making them". Get 'em while you can, and 
expect the price to get eye-watering. 
And, yes, you can run them on the down tube. Interesting bit of RBW history ... 
I pointed this out to Grant a long time ago, and that the opposite was true, 
that downtube shifters could be mounted on Shimano bar-end pods. And thus were 
born the Silver 1 bar-end shifters.
Ted DurantMilwaukee WI USA 

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB - 9spd Dura Ace downtube shifters

['Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 Thanks Bill. I will pass this along to my friend. I think he did check eBay 
was put off by prices.
Regards,Paul Germain
On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 03:48:27 PM EDT, Bill Lindsay 
 wrote:  
 
 It's not a unicorn.  It's just very very old.  Find them on eBay for $150 to 
$200.  They are worth every penny, IMO.  I think the best price I ever paid for 
used ones here on I-Bob was around $50, but that was a situation where I 
pounced the moment they were offered, and they went into my own inventory.  
Does your friend have a budget?  Also, you can get brand new 9sp bar cons from 
Rivendell at $140, and elsewhere for a few dollars less.  Some people run bar 
cons on their down tube shifter bosses, and they work fine.
Bill LindsayEl Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, April 9, 2024 at 8:22:46 PM UTC-7 Bikie#4646 wrote:

Asking for a good friend. I can facilitate the sale.Is this a unicorn? 
Paul GermainMidlothian, Va.


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[RBW] Re: WTB - 9spd Dura Ace downtube shifters

[maxcr]

Here's an expensive set NOS 9 speed 7700 model $225 (no connection to the 
seller): 
https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/bop/d/mason-nos-shimano-dura-ace-7700/7721948827.html
And a used set at a great price $70 for the 10 speed 7800 model (no 
connection to the seller): 
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bop/d/saint-paul-shimano-dura-ace-sl-speed/7721310412.html
Max

On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 5:27:57 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 2:48:19 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Also, you can get brand new 9sp bar cons from Rivendell at $140, and 
> elsewhere for a few dollars less.  Some people run bar cons on their down 
> tube shifter bosses, and they work fine.
>
>
>  FYI, Grant tells me that he thinks Shimano has stopped making the 9sp 
> bar-end shifters "after 25 or 26 years of making them". Get 'em while you 
> can, and expect the price to get eye-watering. 
>
> And, yes, you can run them on the down tube. Interesting bit of RBW 
> history ... I pointed this out to Grant a long time ago, and that the 
> opposite was true, that downtube shifters could be mounted on Shimano 
> bar-end pods. And thus were born the Silver 1 bar-end shifters.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee WI USA 
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB - 9spd Dura Ace downtube shifters

[Ted Durant]

On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 2:48:19 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

Also, you can get brand new 9sp bar cons from Rivendell at $140, and 
elsewhere for a few dollars less.  Some people run bar cons on their down 
tube shifter bosses, and they work fine.


 FYI, Grant tells me that he thinks Shimano has stopped making the 9sp 
bar-end shifters "after 25 or 26 years of making them". Get 'em while you 
can, and expect the price to get eye-watering. 

And, yes, you can run them on the down tube. Interesting bit of RBW history 
... I pointed this out to Grant a long time ago, and that the opposite was 
true, that downtube shifters could be mounted on Shimano bar-end pods. And 
thus were born the Silver 1 bar-end shifters.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee WI USA 

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[RBW] Re: WTB - 9spd Dura Ace downtube shifters

[Bill Lindsay]

It's not a unicorn.  It's just very very old.  Find them on eBay for $150 
to $200.  They are worth every penny, IMO.  I think the best price I ever 
paid for used ones here on I-Bob was around $50, but that was a situation 
where I pounced the moment they were offered, and they went into my own 
inventory.  Does your friend have a budget?  Also, you can get brand new 
9sp bar cons from Rivendell at $140, and elsewhere for a few dollars less. 
 Some people run bar cons on their down tube shifter bosses, and they work 
fine.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, April 9, 2024 at 8:22:46 PM UTC-7 Bikie#4646 wrote:

> Asking for a good friend. I can facilitate the sale.
> Is this a unicorn? 
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
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[RBW] Re: WTB 26" Front Wheel with Generator Hub

[JohnS]

Thank Ian for the links. I'm pressed by all the lighting options they have! 

JohnS


On Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 11:15:44 AM UTC-4 Ian A wrote:

> John,
>
> Since 2013,  have bought from bike24.de, rose.de and bike-discount.de in 
> Germany. All have been excellent.  My last order was in 2020 from Rose 
> Bike, when I couldn't find what I needed locally. Things have changed over 
> the past 10 years or so. There are quite a number of restrictions by 
> manufacturers as to what can leave the EU (in order to protect local North 
> America vendors, which makes good sense) and things like batteries now fall 
> under restrictions for dangerous cargo. Rose removed the cycle computer 
> from my order because of the single CR2032 battery couldn't be shipped 
> outside of the EU without extensive paperwork!
>
> Naturally, with this being the RBW list, look for local options first. 
> Maybe a list member is holding just what you are looking for. :)
>
> IanA Kitimat BC
> On Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 6:13:46 AM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Thank you Ian, the quality of the hub is something to consider. You 
>> mention ordering from German sites, is there one or two that you can 
>> recommend?
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 5:39:10 PM UTC-4 Ian A wrote:
>>
>>> Just be aware that is a fairly low end dynamo in the Shimano range. 
>>> Slightly heavy and draggy in comparison to the higher end Shimano and SP 
>>> products.
>>>
>>> Some shopping around on the German sites might get you an SP hub or an 
>>> LX/XT hub built into a wheel. Shimano does have a restriction on allowing 
>>> the export of their products from Europe to North America. A complete wheel 
>>> might be excepted from the restriction. 
>>>
>>> I have bought a fair bit of stuff over the years (Tubus racks, B 
>>> lights, Brooks Saddles, Ortlieb panniers and handlebar bag, tires, spokes 
>>> and nipples etc) and quite a few of those items are now restricted for 
>>> export. Xxcycle in France doesn't seem to observe those restrictions (yet). 
>>> Maybe they do now,  my last order was while back.
>>>
>>> My main reason for ordering from Germany is because the economy shipping 
>>> option comes through the regular postal system and gets delivered by Canada 
>>> Post on this end. Canadian consumers will have horror stories of shipments 
>>> delivered via UPS and FedEx due to the brokerage fees for customs entry. 
>>> Also, shipping tends to be faster to Canada from Europe than from the USA. 
>>>
>>> IanA Deepest, darkest BC, Canada
>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:59:09 PM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:
>>>

 Even better! And they have a ton of stuff on sale, so I could add 
 socks, gloves or a jersey to the box and won't impact the shipping.

 JohnS

 On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:42:39 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

>  >> so the total price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being 
> $1.08 at the moment. 
>
> That's WITH shipping. 
>
> >> 124.95 € instead of €165.95
> >> Price incl. VAT plus €24.55 (for delivery to United States of 
> America)
> >> Product code: 234412101"
>
> Lighting articles in general are a great deal over there, bc they're a 
> commodity. Most bikes in Germany are sold with lighting -- it's required 
> on 
> bikes used on public roads, with some exemptions for lightweight road 
> bikes 
> -- so it's a huge market, and that helps.
>
> cheers -m
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:08:12 PM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Thank you Mathias, that looks like a good deal, I'll have to check to 
>> see what the shipping would be. I may go that route if isn't too 
>> expensive 
>> and I don't hear from someone on the list.
>>
>> Hello NYCBikeGuy, sorry to give the impression that I know how to 
>> build wheels, I don't, but I've heard swapping rims isn't too hard, so I 
>> was going to give it a try if needed.
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:
>>
>>> You seem to be savvy in wheel building. I have a disk brake dynamo 
>>> in gold currently laced to a 700c rim with machined sidewall for rim 
>>> brakes 
>>> (so versatile!) Let me know if you're interested. I'll send pics.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:01:53 PM UTC-4 
>>> mathiass...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Here's a new option:


 https://www.rosebikes.com/rose-dt-swiss-535shimano-dh-3d32-qr-26-discnon-disc-mtb-front-wheel-2721231?article_size=6853_shape=1

 you get the 19 % VAT deducted when shipping to the U.S. so the 
 total price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being $1.08 at 
 the 
 moment. I've had excellent luck with Rose products; they sold 700x35 
 mm 
 Pasela Tourguards last year for $17 a pop -- 

[RBW] Re: WTB 26" Front Wheel with Generator Hub

[Ian A]

John,

Since 2013,  have bought from bike24.de, rose.de and bike-discount.de in 
Germany. All have been excellent.  My last order was in 2020 from Rose 
Bike, when I couldn't find what I needed locally. Things have changed over 
the past 10 years or so. There are quite a number of restrictions by 
manufacturers as to what can leave the EU (in order to protect local North 
America vendors, which makes good sense) and things like batteries now fall 
under restrictions for dangerous cargo. Rose removed the cycle computer 
from my order because of the single CR2032 battery couldn't be shipped 
outside of the EU without extensive paperwork!

Naturally, with this being the RBW list, look for local options first. 
Maybe a list member is holding just what you are looking for. :)

IanA Kitimat BC
On Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 6:13:46 AM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:

> Thank you Ian, the quality of the hub is something to consider. You 
> mention ordering from German sites, is there one or two that you can 
> recommend?
>
> JohnS
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 5:39:10 PM UTC-4 Ian A wrote:
>
>> Just be aware that is a fairly low end dynamo in the Shimano range. 
>> Slightly heavy and draggy in comparison to the higher end Shimano and SP 
>> products.
>>
>> Some shopping around on the German sites might get you an SP hub or an 
>> LX/XT hub built into a wheel. Shimano does have a restriction on allowing 
>> the export of their products from Europe to North America. A complete wheel 
>> might be excepted from the restriction. 
>>
>> I have bought a fair bit of stuff over the years (Tubus racks, B 
>> lights, Brooks Saddles, Ortlieb panniers and handlebar bag, tires, spokes 
>> and nipples etc) and quite a few of those items are now restricted for 
>> export. Xxcycle in France doesn't seem to observe those restrictions (yet). 
>> Maybe they do now,  my last order was while back.
>>
>> My main reason for ordering from Germany is because the economy shipping 
>> option comes through the regular postal system and gets delivered by Canada 
>> Post on this end. Canadian consumers will have horror stories of shipments 
>> delivered via UPS and FedEx due to the brokerage fees for customs entry. 
>> Also, shipping tends to be faster to Canada from Europe than from the USA. 
>>
>> IanA Deepest, darkest BC, Canada
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:59:09 PM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Even better! And they have a ton of stuff on sale, so I could add socks, 
>>> gloves or a jersey to the box and won't impact the shipping.
>>>
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:42:39 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
  >> so the total price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being 
 $1.08 at the moment. 

 That's WITH shipping. 

 >> 124.95 € instead of €165.95
 >> Price incl. VAT plus €24.55 (for delivery to United States of 
 America)
 >> Product code: 234412101"

 Lighting articles in general are a great deal over there, bc they're a 
 commodity. Most bikes in Germany are sold with lighting -- it's required 
 on 
 bikes used on public roads, with some exemptions for lightweight road 
 bikes 
 -- so it's a huge market, and that helps.

 cheers -m


 On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:08:12 PM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:

> Thank you Mathias, that looks like a good deal, I'll have to check to 
> see what the shipping would be. I may go that route if isn't too 
> expensive 
> and I don't hear from someone on the list.
>
> Hello NYCBikeGuy, sorry to give the impression that I know how to 
> build wheels, I don't, but I've heard swapping rims isn't too hard, so I 
> was going to give it a try if needed.
>
> JohnS
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:
>
>> You seem to be savvy in wheel building. I have a disk brake dynamo in 
>> gold currently laced to a 700c rim with machined sidewall for rim brakes 
>> (so versatile!) Let me know if you're interested. I'll send pics.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:01:53 PM UTC-4 
>> mathiass...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Here's a new option:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.rosebikes.com/rose-dt-swiss-535shimano-dh-3d32-qr-26-discnon-disc-mtb-front-wheel-2721231?article_size=6853_shape=1
>>>
>>> you get the 19 % VAT deducted when shipping to the U.S. so the total 
>>> price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being $1.08 at the 
>>> moment. 
>>> I've had excellent luck with Rose products; they sold 700x35 mm Pasela 
>>> Tourguards last year for $17 a pop -- less than half the price 
>>> stateside.
>>>
>>> cheers -mathias
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 10:51:13 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>>>
 Hello All,

 Looking to make my '82 Stumpy a year round errand runner, so dyno 
 lights are the way 

[RBW] Re: WTB 26" Front Wheel with Generator Hub

[JohnS]

Thank you Ian, the quality of the hub is something to consider. You mention 
ordering from German sites, is there one or two that you can recommend?

JohnS


On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 5:39:10 PM UTC-4 Ian A wrote:

> Just be aware that is a fairly low end dynamo in the Shimano range. 
> Slightly heavy and draggy in comparison to the higher end Shimano and SP 
> products.
>
> Some shopping around on the German sites might get you an SP hub or an 
> LX/XT hub built into a wheel. Shimano does have a restriction on allowing 
> the export of their products from Europe to North America. A complete wheel 
> might be excepted from the restriction. 
>
> I have bought a fair bit of stuff over the years (Tubus racks, B lights, 
> Brooks Saddles, Ortlieb panniers and handlebar bag, tires, spokes and 
> nipples etc) and quite a few of those items are now restricted for export. 
> Xxcycle in France doesn't seem to observe those restrictions (yet). Maybe 
> they do now,  my last order was while back.
>
> My main reason for ordering from Germany is because the economy shipping 
> option comes through the regular postal system and gets delivered by Canada 
> Post on this end. Canadian consumers will have horror stories of shipments 
> delivered via UPS and FedEx due to the brokerage fees for customs entry. 
> Also, shipping tends to be faster to Canada from Europe than from the USA. 
>
> IanA Deepest, darkest BC, Canada
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:59:09 PM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:
>
>>
>> Even better! And they have a ton of stuff on sale, so I could add socks, 
>> gloves or a jersey to the box and won't impact the shipping.
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:42:39 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  >> so the total price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being 
>>> $1.08 at the moment. 
>>>
>>> That's WITH shipping. 
>>>
>>> >> 124.95 € instead of €165.95
>>> >> Price incl. VAT plus €24.55 (for delivery to United States of America)
>>> >> Product code: 234412101"
>>>
>>> Lighting articles in general are a great deal over there, bc they're a 
>>> commodity. Most bikes in Germany are sold with lighting -- it's required on 
>>> bikes used on public roads, with some exemptions for lightweight road bikes 
>>> -- so it's a huge market, and that helps.
>>>
>>> cheers -m
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:08:12 PM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>>>
 Thank you Mathias, that looks like a good deal, I'll have to check to 
 see what the shipping would be. I may go that route if isn't too expensive 
 and I don't hear from someone on the list.

 Hello NYCBikeGuy, sorry to give the impression that I know how to build 
 wheels, I don't, but I've heard swapping rims isn't too hard, so I was 
 going to give it a try if needed.

 JohnS

 On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:

> You seem to be savvy in wheel building. I have a disk brake dynamo in 
> gold currently laced to a 700c rim with machined sidewall for rim brakes 
> (so versatile!) Let me know if you're interested. I'll send pics.
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:01:53 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Here's a new option:
>>
>>
>> https://www.rosebikes.com/rose-dt-swiss-535shimano-dh-3d32-qr-26-discnon-disc-mtb-front-wheel-2721231?article_size=6853_shape=1
>>
>> you get the 19 % VAT deducted when shipping to the U.S. so the total 
>> price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being $1.08 at the 
>> moment. 
>> I've had excellent luck with Rose products; they sold 700x35 mm Pasela 
>> Tourguards last year for $17 a pop -- less than half the price stateside.
>>
>> cheers -mathias
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 10:51:13 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Looking to make my '82 Stumpy a year round errand runner, so dyno 
>>> lights are the way to go.
>>>
>>> Requirements:
>>> 26" rim brake for a wider tire. I plan to use RH 26" x 2.3" Rat Trap 
>>> pass tires.
>>> 100 mm spacing.
>>> 6V, 3W power output for front and rear LED lights.
>>> Good working order and can be serviced (no rusty axle nuts).
>>>
>>> Nice to have, but not required:
>>> Silver color, but black is ok.
>>> 32 spoke count (I have an extra rim, so if yours is worn out, I can 
>>> switch it).
>>> Looking to spend about $100 plus shipping to Allentown PA 18104.
>>> Hub brand is not too important to me, the exception would be the 
>>> Sanyo hub, I've read that it has noticeable drag.
>>>
>>> Please reply directly to me if you have one to unload.
>>> Thank you,
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB 26" Front Wheel with Generator Hub

[Ian A]

Just be aware that is a fairly low end dynamo in the Shimano range. 
Slightly heavy and draggy in comparison to the higher end Shimano and SP 
products.

Some shopping around on the German sites might get you an SP hub or an 
LX/XT hub built into a wheel. Shimano does have a restriction on allowing 
the export of their products from Europe to North America. A complete wheel 
might be excepted from the restriction. 

I have bought a fair bit of stuff over the years (Tubus racks, B lights, 
Brooks Saddles, Ortlieb panniers and handlebar bag, tires, spokes and 
nipples etc) and quite a few of those items are now restricted for export. 
Xxcycle in France doesn't seem to observe those restrictions (yet). Maybe 
they do now,  my last order was while back.

My main reason for ordering from Germany is because the economy shipping 
option comes through the regular postal system and gets delivered by Canada 
Post on this end. Canadian consumers will have horror stories of shipments 
delivered via UPS and FedEx due to the brokerage fees for customs entry. 
Also, shipping tends to be faster to Canada from Europe than from the USA. 

IanA Deepest, darkest BC, Canada
On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:59:09 PM UTC-7 JohnS wrote:

>
> Even better! And they have a ton of stuff on sale, so I could add socks, 
> gloves or a jersey to the box and won't impact the shipping.
>
> JohnS
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:42:39 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>  >> so the total price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being 
>> $1.08 at the moment. 
>>
>> That's WITH shipping. 
>>
>> >> 124.95 € instead of €165.95
>> >> Price incl. VAT plus €24.55 (for delivery to United States of America)
>> >> Product code: 234412101"
>>
>> Lighting articles in general are a great deal over there, bc they're a 
>> commodity. Most bikes in Germany are sold with lighting -- it's required on 
>> bikes used on public roads, with some exemptions for lightweight road bikes 
>> -- so it's a huge market, and that helps.
>>
>> cheers -m
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:08:12 PM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Mathias, that looks like a good deal, I'll have to check to 
>>> see what the shipping would be. I may go that route if isn't too expensive 
>>> and I don't hear from someone on the list.
>>>
>>> Hello NYCBikeGuy, sorry to give the impression that I know how to build 
>>> wheels, I don't, but I've heard swapping rims isn't too hard, so I was 
>>> going to give it a try if needed.
>>>
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:
>>>
 You seem to be savvy in wheel building. I have a disk brake dynamo in 
 gold currently laced to a 700c rim with machined sidewall for rim brakes 
 (so versatile!) Let me know if you're interested. I'll send pics.

 On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:01:53 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Here's a new option:
>
>
> https://www.rosebikes.com/rose-dt-swiss-535shimano-dh-3d32-qr-26-discnon-disc-mtb-front-wheel-2721231?article_size=6853_shape=1
>
> you get the 19 % VAT deducted when shipping to the U.S. so the total 
> price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being $1.08 at the moment. 
> I've had excellent luck with Rose products; they sold 700x35 mm Pasela 
> Tourguards last year for $17 a pop -- less than half the price stateside.
>
> cheers -mathias
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 10:51:13 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Looking to make my '82 Stumpy a year round errand runner, so dyno 
>> lights are the way to go.
>>
>> Requirements:
>> 26" rim brake for a wider tire. I plan to use RH 26" x 2.3" Rat Trap 
>> pass tires.
>> 100 mm spacing.
>> 6V, 3W power output for front and rear LED lights.
>> Good working order and can be serviced (no rusty axle nuts).
>>
>> Nice to have, but not required:
>> Silver color, but black is ok.
>> 32 spoke count (I have an extra rim, so if yours is worn out, I can 
>> switch it).
>> Looking to spend about $100 plus shipping to Allentown PA 18104.
>> Hub brand is not too important to me, the exception would be the 
>> Sanyo hub, I've read that it has noticeable drag.
>>
>> Please reply directly to me if you have one to unload.
>> Thank you,
>> JohnS
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB 26" Front Wheel with Generator Hub

[JohnS]

Even better! And they have a ton of stuff on sale, so I could add socks, 
gloves or a jersey to the box and won't impact the shipping.

JohnS

On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:42:39 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
wrote:

>  >> so the total price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being 
> $1.08 at the moment. 
>
> That's WITH shipping. 
>
> >> 124.95 € instead of €165.95
> >> Price incl. VAT plus €24.55 (for delivery to United States of America)
> >> Product code: 234412101"
>
> Lighting articles in general are a great deal over there, bc they're a 
> commodity. Most bikes in Germany are sold with lighting -- it's required on 
> bikes used on public roads, with some exemptions for lightweight road bikes 
> -- so it's a huge market, and that helps.
>
> cheers -m
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:08:12 PM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Thank you Mathias, that looks like a good deal, I'll have to check to see 
>> what the shipping would be. I may go that route if isn't too expensive and 
>> I don't hear from someone on the list.
>>
>> Hello NYCBikeGuy, sorry to give the impression that I know how to build 
>> wheels, I don't, but I've heard swapping rims isn't too hard, so I was 
>> going to give it a try if needed.
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:
>>
>>> You seem to be savvy in wheel building. I have a disk brake dynamo in 
>>> gold currently laced to a 700c rim with machined sidewall for rim brakes 
>>> (so versatile!) Let me know if you're interested. I'll send pics.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:01:53 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Here's a new option:


 https://www.rosebikes.com/rose-dt-swiss-535shimano-dh-3d32-qr-26-discnon-disc-mtb-front-wheel-2721231?article_size=6853_shape=1

 you get the 19 % VAT deducted when shipping to the U.S. so the total 
 price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being $1.08 at the moment. 
 I've had excellent luck with Rose products; they sold 700x35 mm Pasela 
 Tourguards last year for $17 a pop -- less than half the price stateside.

 cheers -mathias

 On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 10:51:13 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> Looking to make my '82 Stumpy a year round errand runner, so dyno 
> lights are the way to go.
>
> Requirements:
> 26" rim brake for a wider tire. I plan to use RH 26" x 2.3" Rat Trap 
> pass tires.
> 100 mm spacing.
> 6V, 3W power output for front and rear LED lights.
> Good working order and can be serviced (no rusty axle nuts).
>
> Nice to have, but not required:
> Silver color, but black is ok.
> 32 spoke count (I have an extra rim, so if yours is worn out, I can 
> switch it).
> Looking to spend about $100 plus shipping to Allentown PA 18104.
> Hub brand is not too important to me, the exception would be the Sanyo 
> hub, I've read that it has noticeable drag.
>
> Please reply directly to me if you have one to unload.
> Thank you,
> JohnS
>


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[RBW] Re: WTB 26" Front Wheel with Generator Hub

[Mathias Steiner]

 >> so the total price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being $1.08 
at the moment. 

That's WITH shipping. 

>> 124.95 € instead of €165.95
>> Price incl. VAT plus €24.55 (for delivery to United States of America)
>> Product code: 234412101"

Lighting articles in general are a great deal over there, bc they're a 
commodity. Most bikes in Germany are sold with lighting -- it's required on 
bikes used on public roads, with some exemptions for lightweight road bikes 
-- so it's a huge market, and that helps.

cheers -m


On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 4:08:12 PM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:

> Thank you Mathias, that looks like a good deal, I'll have to check to see 
> what the shipping would be. I may go that route if isn't too expensive and 
> I don't hear from someone on the list.
>
> Hello NYCBikeGuy, sorry to give the impression that I know how to build 
> wheels, I don't, but I've heard swapping rims isn't too hard, so I was 
> going to give it a try if needed.
>
> JohnS
>
> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:28:58 PM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:
>
>> You seem to be savvy in wheel building. I have a disk brake dynamo in 
>> gold currently laced to a 700c rim with machined sidewall for rim brakes 
>> (so versatile!) Let me know if you're interested. I'll send pics.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 1:01:53 PM UTC-4 mathiass...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's a new option:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.rosebikes.com/rose-dt-swiss-535shimano-dh-3d32-qr-26-discnon-disc-mtb-front-wheel-2721231?article_size=6853_shape=1
>>>
>>> you get the 19 % VAT deducted when shipping to the U.S. so the total 
>>> price will be between 125 and 130 Euro; a Euro being $1.08 at the moment. 
>>> I've had excellent luck with Rose products; they sold 700x35 mm Pasela 
>>> Tourguards last year for $17 a pop -- less than half the price stateside.
>>>
>>> cheers -mathias
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 27, 2024 at 10:51:13 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:
>>>
 Hello All,

 Looking to make my '82 Stumpy a year round errand runner, so dyno 
 lights are the way to go.

 Requirements:
 26" rim brake for a wider tire. I plan to use RH 26" x 2.3" Rat Trap 
 pass tires.
 100 mm spacing.
 6V, 3W power output for front and rear LED lights.
 Good working order and can be serviced (no rusty axle nuts).

 Nice to have, but not required:
 Silver color, but black is ok.
 32 spoke count (I have an extra rim, so if yours is worn out, I can 
 switch it).
 Looking to spend about $100 plus shipping to Allentown PA 18104.
 Hub brand is not too important to me, the exception would be the Sanyo 
 hub, I've read that it has noticeable drag.

 Please reply directly to me if you have one to unload.
 Thank you,
 JohnS

>>>

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