Re: [RBW] Loving my Atlantis...let me count the ways
It may be that I'm morphing again, and should have trusted my gut originally. I really enjoyed the VO Porteur bars on my AHH after not liking a set of 46cm Noodles, but I've since settled on 42cm Noodles for that bike. However, I have the Albastaches on my Hunqa, and really like the full-time upright and forward brake positions. I am also losing my interest in the extreme variation the Boscos give (on my backup commuter). I am currently planning on stowing those for my next foray into cruisers or my elderly years, and getting back to the Porteur bars that are just so right. They are narrow, have at least 3 hand positions, and do at least 100k without hand pain. Sticking with the Noodles for the long rides, however (over 200k). Brian Seattle, WA On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 6:31:22 AM UTC-7, Tom Matchak wrote: > > I have spent the past couple of seasons searching for an alternative to > drop bars. I started with the classics (Albas and Moustache) but found > these to be too wide or too convoluted. After lots of experimenting, I > finally settled on classic Porteur bars, set up Moustache-style. > > http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/34156114@N05/9146262436/ > > I am using both the Grand Bois Elysees bar and the Velo Orange Porteur > bar, both in the "flipped" orientation. I have the straight section angled > down about 10 deg, and the brake hoods are sloped down to provide the lever > location/sweep that feels natural for my hands. There are some very subtle > differences between these bars, and I like the curve on the VO model just a > tad more, but I am comfortable with either one. > > Porteur-style bars like these typically are set up with reverse brake > levers or MTB levers and some sort of a thumb shifter, all of which limits > the available hand positions. But the two models mentioned here take normal > road bike brake levers and bar-end shifters, leaving the bar's sweep > available for a range of hand positions. I also find that the forward > position of the brake levers feels more secure and comfortable on a > downhill. > > Cheers, > Tom Matchak > Glen, NH > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Loving my Atlantis...let me count the ways
I have spent the past couple of seasons searching for an alternative to drop bars. I started with the classics (Albas and Moustache) but found these to be too wide or too convoluted. After lots of experimenting, I finally settled on classic Porteur bars, set up Moustache-style. http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/34156114@N05/9146262436/ I am using both the Grand Bois Elysees bar and the Velo Orange Porteur bar, both in the "flipped" orientation. I have the straight section angled down about 10 deg, and the brake hoods are sloped down to provide the lever location/sweep that feels natural for my hands. There are some very subtle differences between these bars, and I like the curve on the VO model just a tad more, but I am comfortable with either one. Porteur-style bars like these typically are set up with reverse brake levers or MTB levers and some sort of a thumb shifter, all of which limits the available hand positions. But the two models mentioned here take normal road bike brake levers and bar-end shifters, leaving the bar's sweep available for a range of hand positions. I also find that the forward position of the brake levers feels more secure and comfortable on a downhill. Cheers, Tom Matchak Glen, NH -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Loving my Atlantis...let me count the ways
I'm just the opposite when mtb's came on the scene in the mid 80's, I switched to 90% mountain bikes for almost 2 decades. But I still prefer drop bars. In fact I've been scheming to convert my steel 29er to mountain drops. Now with hydro discs for drop bars on the market ( TRP) it may be just the right time. ~mike > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Loving my Atlantis...let me count the ways
I've tried to use drop bars for many, many years... high, low, classic bend, flared mountain style, etc. Finally, I'm starting to realize I may just be more comfortable on other bars. Maybe it's coming from a mountain bike background, but there are just so many good shapes out there... Albas (and the Soma Oxford knock off that I have), On One Marys, Surly Open Bars... it seems we're living in the golden age of handle bars. Yes, I sometimes miss the drops when grinding into a headwind, and I like the feeling of grabbing the brake lever bodies while standing and climbing. But for the other 95% of my riding, those alt-bend bars are way more comfortable than drops. Eric Daume Dublin, OH On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:30 PM, dougP wrote: > Just back from a tour involving rental bikes, my wife & I hopped on our > Atlantii after recovering from jet lag. What a difference! "Touring > bikes" are sometimes derided as heavy, clunky, slow, etc., but after > several hundred miles on rental hybrids, an Atlantis feels like a sports > car. Even though the overall weight isn't much different (hey, we lugged > our rentals up & down stairs, tossed them onto trains, etc.), the > performance difference was enormous, especially climbing. I can't tell you > why but hills that would be "of no consequence" on my Atlantis were > seriously consequential on the rental. In their defense, I'm sure our > rentals would retail well below US$1,000, so it's true that you get what > you pay for. Another unexpected consequence is we are both rethinking the > drop bars on our Atlantii. We were both more comfortable on the upright > bars and there didn't seem to be any downside. Pondering, pondering > > dougP > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Loving my Atlantis...let me count the ways
I tried M'staches on another bike a few years ago & didn't care for the straight back portion. The Origin 8 Space Bar on my old MTB has a nice amount of bend & seems to suit my anatomy. The multiple hand positions on drops are really unbeatable, especially in the wind. It's all some sort of compromise, though. I needed a winter project so this may be it. The last couple of years I've had on'n'off hand issues with the drops, & have been gradually raising them. I'm at the max mark now. On this trip, neither of us had any physical ailments, despite the low end nature of the bikes. The bars were straight, flat, with rubber hand grips. dougP On Monday, October 14, 2013 11:55:07 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > > Those elves make some mighty fine bikes! > > Do you think you would go the Riv route with swept back bars, or more > of a straight bar set up? > > On 10/14/13, dougP > wrote: > > Just back from a tour involving rental bikes, my wife & I hopped on our > > Atlantii after recovering from jet lag. What a difference! "Touring > > bikes" are sometimes derided as heavy, clunky, slow, etc., but after > > several hundred miles on rental hybrids, an Atlantis feels like a sports > > car. Even though the overall weight isn't much different (hey, we > lugged > > our rentals up & down stairs, tossed them onto trains, etc.), the > > performance difference was enormous, especially climbing. I can't tell > you > > > > why but hills that would be "of no consequence" on my Atlantis were > > seriously consequential on the rental. In their defense, I'm sure our > > rentals would retail well below US$1,000, so it's true that you get what > > you pay for. Another unexpected consequence is we are both rethinking > the > > drop bars on our Atlantii. We were both more comfortable on the upright > > bars and there didn't seem to be any downside. Pondering, pondering > > > > dougP > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > > email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com . > > To post to this group, send email to > > rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. > > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > -- > Cheers, > David > > "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Loving my Atlantis...let me count the ways
Those elves make some mighty fine bikes! Do you think you would go the Riv route with swept back bars, or more of a straight bar set up? On 10/14/13, dougP wrote: > Just back from a tour involving rental bikes, my wife & I hopped on our > Atlantii after recovering from jet lag. What a difference! "Touring > bikes" are sometimes derided as heavy, clunky, slow, etc., but after > several hundred miles on rental hybrids, an Atlantis feels like a sports > car. Even though the overall weight isn't much different (hey, we lugged > our rentals up & down stairs, tossed them onto trains, etc.), the > performance difference was enormous, especially climbing. I can't tell you > > why but hills that would be "of no consequence" on my Atlantis were > seriously consequential on the rental. In their defense, I'm sure our > rentals would retail well below US$1,000, so it's true that you get what > you pay for. Another unexpected consequence is we are both rethinking the > drop bars on our Atlantii. We were both more comfortable on the upright > bars and there didn't seem to be any downside. Pondering, pondering > > dougP > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Cheers, David "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
