[RDA-L] 502 dissertation note in RDA
Hello, Can anyone help me in deciding which example I have to follow in RDA for Dissertation Note since both forms are accepted in MARC examples. The simple one : 502 ##$aThesis (M.A.)--University College, London, 1969. The complex one: 502 ##$bPh.D$cUniversity of Louisville$d1997. MARC examples: 502 ##$aThesis (M.A.)--University College, London, 1969. 502 ##$aInaug.--Diss.--Heidelberg, 1972. 502 ##$aKarl Schmidt's thesis (doctoral)--Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität, Munich, 1965. 502 ##$aMémoire de stage (3e cycle)--Université de Nantes, 1981. 502 ##$bPh.D$cUniversity of Louisville$d1997. 502 ##$bM.A.$cInternational Faith Theological Seminary, London$d2005. 502 ##$bM.A.$cMcGill University$d1972$gInaugural thesis. 502 ##$gKarl Schmidt's thesis$bDoctoral$cLudwig-Maximilians-Universität, Munich $d1965. 502 ##$aHeidelberg, Phil. F., Diss. v. 1. Aug. 1958 (Nicht f. d. Aust.)$oU 58.4033. http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/concise/bd502.html Please asdvise Basma Chebani Head of Cataloging and Metadata Services Department University Libraries / Jafet American University of Beirut Beirut - Lebanon Tel: 961-1-35 ext.2614 basma.cheb...@aub.edu.lbmailto:basma.cheb...@aub.edu.lb
Re: [RDA-L] 502 dissertation note in RDA
Dear Mr. Elrod,
Thank you all for your clarifications.
I am not sure what to put in 502|a.
Can I use the term Thesis or Dissertation in 502|a ??
At the end of your reply you have mentioned On the other hand, we do not use
the 505 subfields. I think you don't use 502 subfields. Correct?
Thank you.
Basma Chebani
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Basma Chebani said:
Can anyone help me in deciding which example I have to follow in RDA
for Dissertation Note since both forms are accepted in MARC examples.
This seems more a matter of MARC than RDA.
We use the new 502 subfields, but retain the old punctuation (contra PCC). So
far as we know, none of our clients have ILS which supply the punctuation. If
there ever is such, I hope they are sophisticated enough not to double the
punctuation.
I don't like the omission of Thesis etc. in the examples of subfield coded
502's.
On the other hand, we do not use the 505 subfields.
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Re: [RDA-L] Material specified in |3 subfield for accompanying materials
Hello, I have a problem in finding a controlled list of material specified in |3 subfield in 336 337 and 338 for accompanying materials. I have prepared some combinations and I need your help mainly for the terms I suggested for the material specified in |3 for 336, 337 and 338. Thank you Basma - Basma Chebani Head of Cataloging and Metadata Services Department University Libraries / Jafet American University of Beirut Beirut - Lebanon Tel: 961-1-35 ext.2614 basma.cheb...@aub.edu.lbmailto:basma.cheb...@aub.edu.lb basmacheb...@yahoo.commailto:basmacheb...@yahoo.com Description of a Book Description 300 228 pages :|billustrations ;|c30 cm. Description 336 text|btxt|2rdacontent Description 337 unmediated|bn|2rdamedia Description 338 volume|bnc|2rdacarrier Description of a Video recording on DVD Description 300 1 videodisc (75 min.) :|bsound, color and black white ;|c4 3/4 in. Description 336 two-dimensional moving image|btdi|2rdacontent Description 337 video|bv|2rdamedia Description 338 videodisc|bvd|2rdacarrier Description 340 |b4 3/4 in. Description 344 digital|boptical|hDolby|2rda Description 346 laser optical|bNTSC|2rda Description 347 video file|bDVD video|2rda Video Digital file characteristics (347) Description of a Video recording on CD Description 300 1 videodisc (75 min.) :|bsound, color and black white ;|c4 3/4 in. Description 336 two-dimensional moving image|btdi|2rdacontent Description 337 video|bv|2rdamedia Description 338 videodisc|bvd|2rdacarrier Description 340 |b4 3/4 in. Description 344 digital|boptical|hDolby|2rda Description 346 laser optical|bNTSC|2rda Description 347 video file|bCD video|2rda Video Digital file characteristics (347) Description of a Photograph Description 300 2 photographs :|bportrait ;|c15x28 cm Description 336 still image|bsti|2rdacontent Description 337 unmediated|bn|2rdamedia Description 338 sheet|bnb|2rdacarrier Description of a digital Photograph on the server Description 300 2 photographs :|bportrait ;|c15x28 cm Description 336 still image|bsti|2rdacontent Description 337 computer|bc|2rdamedia Description 338 online|bcr|2rdacarrier Description of a Poster Description 300 2 posters :|bcolor ;|c20x29 cm Description 336 still image|bsti|2rdacontent Description 337 unmediated|bn|2rdamedia Description 338 sheet|bnb|2rdacarrier Description of a digital Poster on the server Description 300 2 posters :|bcolor ;|c20x29 cm Description 336 still image|bsti|2rdacontent Description 337 computer|bc|2rdamedia Description 338 online|bcr|2rdacarrier Description of an online Database Description 300 1 online resource|billustrations . Description 336 Computer dataset |2rdacontent Description 337 computer |2rdamedia Description 338 online|bcr |2rdacarrier Description of a Microfilm reel Description 300 1 microfilm reel :|bpositive Description 336 text|btxt|2rdacontent Description 337 microform|bh|2rdamedia Description 338 microform reel|bnc|2rdacarrier Accompanying material Description of a Book with a DVD as Accompanying material containing standalone Database Description 300 228 pages :|billustrations ;|c30 cm +|e1 DVD (4 3/4 in.) Description 336 |3book|atext|btxt|2rdacontent Description 336 |3DVD|acomputer dataset|bcod |2rdacontent Description 337 |3book|aunmediated|bn|2rdamedia Description 337 |3DVD|acomputer |2rdamedia Description 338 |3book|avolume|bnc|2rdacarrier Description 338 |3DVD|a computer disc|bcd |2rdacarrier Description of a Book with a CD as Accompanying material containing Performed Music Description 300 228 pages :|billustrations ;|c30 cm +|e1 CD (4 3/4 in.) Description 336 |3book|atext|btxt|2rdacontent Description 336 |3CD|aaudio|bs|2rdacontent Description 337 |3book|aunmediated|bn|2rdamedia Description 337 |3CD|aperformed music|bprm|2rdamedia Description 338 |3book|avolume|bnc|2rdacarrier Description 338 |3CD |aaudio disc |bsd|2rdacarrier Description of a Book with a Map
[RDA-L] 264 with copyright date and first published date and reprint date
Hello, I have one a case with the following: Reprinted date 2013 First published date 2012 Copyright Robin Mansell (c)2012 (the author) I recorded them in RDA 246 as follows: 008 date type r Date 1 = 2012Date 2 = 2013 264 #1 $a Oxford : $b Oxford University Press, $c [2013] 264 #4 $a [Oxford] : $b Robin Mansell, $c (c)2012 588 ## $First published 2012 and reprinted in 2013. 020 ##9780199697052 Kindly advise Thank you Basma Chebani Head of Cataloging and Metadata Services Department University Libraries / Jafet American University of Beirut Beirut - Lebanon Tel: 961-1-35 ext.2614 basma.cheb...@aub.edu.lb -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of McDonald, Stephen Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:49 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 with only a copyright date Gene Fieg asked, regarding the inclusion of copyright date and inferred publication date in an RDA record: And how is the user supposed to make sense of this? How are thesis advisors supposed to make sense of this when checking bibliographical citations? How will it display I don't see what you think is confusing about this. The user will look for a publication date, and will find it. What is confusing about that? The same with thesis advisors. What publication date do you think thesis advisors would expect to find? This inferred publication date is only used when there is no evidence of a publication date except the copyright date. A thesis advisor would almost certainly rather some guess of the publication date than no date at all. I would note that theses generally don't have copyright dates, and do have other dates which can be inferred as publication date. So this isn't usually an issue with theses anyway. As for how it will display, that is up to the ILS, of course. One reasonable way (but hardly the only possible way) it could be displayed is: Publication date: [2011] Copyright: (c)2011 That's the way we have it set up in our catalog (Millennium, the same as you have, I believe). Steve McDonald steve.mcdon...@tufts.edu
Re: [RDA-L] 264 with copyright date and first published date and reprint date
Thank you, it is very helpful. Best regards Basma Chebani American University of Beirut basma.cheb...@aub.edu.lbmailto:basma.cheb...@aub.edu.lb From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Joan Wang Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 4:02 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 with copyright date and first published date and reprint date I would consider First published date 2012 as the publication date. Reprinted date 2013 would be a manufacture date. In this case, the manufacture statement can be ignored. Anyway, if you consider it important, put a 500 note for the reprinted date. Also, for the second 264 field (with the second indicator 4), the only thing you need is sub-field c for the copyright date. As you did, put a symbol before the date. Hopefully it helps. Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:50 AM, Basma Chebani b...@aub.edu.lbmailto:b...@aub.edu.lb wrote: Hello, I have one a case with the following: Reprinted date 2013 First published date 2012 Copyright Robin Mansell (c)2012 (the author) I recorded them in RDA 246 as follows: 008 date type r Date 1 = 2012Date 2 = 2013 264 #1 $a Oxford : $b Oxford University Press, $c [2013] 264 #4 $a [Oxford] : $b Robin Mansell, $c (c)2012 588 ## $First published 2012 and reprinted in 2013. 020 ##9780199697052 Kindly advise Thank you Basma Chebani Head of Cataloging and Metadata Services Department University Libraries / Jafet American University of Beirut Beirut - Lebanon Tel: 961-1-35 ext.2614 basma.cheb...@aub.edu.lbmailto:basma.cheb...@aub.edu.lb -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CAmailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of McDonald, Stephen Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:49 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CAmailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 264 with only a copyright date Gene Fieg asked, regarding the inclusion of copyright date and inferred publication date in an RDA record: And how is the user supposed to make sense of this? How are thesis advisors supposed to make sense of this when checking bibliographical citations? How will it display I don't see what you think is confusing about this. The user will look for a publication date, and will find it. What is confusing about that? The same with thesis advisors. What publication date do you think thesis advisors would expect to find? This inferred publication date is only used when there is no evidence of a publication date except the copyright date. A thesis advisor would almost certainly rather some guess of the publication date than no date at all. I would note that theses generally don't have copyright dates, and do have other dates which can be inferred as publication date. So this isn't usually an issue with theses anyway. As for how it will display, that is up to the ILS, of course. One reasonable way (but hardly the only possible way) it could be displayed is: Publication date: [2011] Copyright: (c)2011 That's the way we have it set up in our catalog (Millennium, the same as you have, I believe). Steve McDonald steve.mcdon...@tufts.edumailto:steve.mcdon...@tufts.edu -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax
