Re: [RDD] Rivendell Website

[Fred Gleason]

On Oct 31, 2016, at 12:10, Michael Barnes  wrote:

>  It's just that those pages are woefully out of date. It would be helpful if 
> they were more current.

I would love to see that site renovated and brought into the 21st Century.  No 
question that it looks like a time warp from 1996 right now.

Any volunteers?  Paravel will gladly donate server space and hosting for such.

Cheers!


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Re: [RDD] Glasscoder problem

[Fred Gleason]

On Oct 28, 2016, at 18:54, Robert Jeffares  wrote:

> Glasscoder from source. 
> All dependencies indicated installed
> autogen.sh
> configure --disable-docbook
> make
> make  install
> seems to install OK
> 
> have installed lame and fdk-aac they show up as available

Do ‘glasscoder --list-codecs’.  That should return the list of codecs which the 
binary is actually able to load (and is how glassgui builds its list of 
available formats).


> glasscoder command line invocation returns unsupported library format 
> (library not found)

Where have you installed the codecs?  They have to be in a place where ld.so(8) 
can find it. A favorite gotcha on RHEL-ish systems is to put them in 
‘/usr/local/lib’ (the default for many configure scripts), but *not* in the 
default list of places where ld.so(8) looks.  To fix that, you can:

1) Install them in ‘/usr/lib’ or ‘/usr/lib64’ as appropriate.  You can do that 
by passing ‘—prefix=/usr’ to ‘configure’ when building each codec.  This is my 
preferred practice.

2) Add ‘/usr/local/lib’ to the list of places where ld.so(8) looks.  To do 
that, do (as root):

echo /usr/local/lib > /etc/ld.so.conf.d/glasscoder.conf
ldconfig

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Re: [RDD] RML Send and RD Softkey

[Lorne Tyndale]

>  Original Message 
> Subject: [RDD] RML Send and RD Softkey
> From: Matthew Chambers 
> Date: Mon, October 31, 2016 4:57 pm
> To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System
> 
> 
> 
> I was trying to set up RML Softkey to remotely control my main studio
> playout machine to switch between LiveAssist and Auto and to PN (Play Next)
> from my windows laptop for a live remote I'm doing in the station parking
> lot with a wireless mic. I'm sitting here in the studio sending test RML
> commands from RML Send and RML Softkey to print a message in RDAirplay for
> testing and it's not working
> 
> [SoftKeys]
> ;
> ; This section can be used to program the RDSoftKeys applet, or you
> ; can use the --map-file= switch to configure multiple soft
> ; key setups on the same host.
> 
>   Columns=4
> 
>   Command1=kele-air.kele.local:LC\ darkRed\ Remote\ Control!
>   Legend1=Remote Control
>   Color1=blue
> 
>   Command2=10.0.0.108:PM\ 1!
>   Legend2=Live Assist
>   Color2=yellow
> 
>   Command3=10.0.0.108:PM\ 2!
>   Legend3=Auto
>   Color3=green
> 
>   Command4=10.0.0.108:PM\ 3!
>   Legend4=Manual
>   Color4=red
> 
>   Command5=10.0.0.108:PN\ 0!
>   Legend5=Play Next
>   Color5=green
> 
> I tried just sending the RML from RMLsend and nothing is happening in
> RDAirplay
> 
> Matthew A. Chambers, NR0Q
> 
> President, Wright County Outlaws 
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[RDD] RML Send and RD Softkey

[Matthew Chambers]

I was trying to set up RML Softkey to remotely control my main studio
playout machine to switch between LiveAssist and Auto and to PN (Play Next)
from my windows laptop for a live remote I'm doing in the station parking
lot with a wireless mic. I'm sitting here in the studio sending test RML
commands from RML Send and RML Softkey to print a message in RDAirplay for
testing and it's not working

[SoftKeys]
;
; This section can be used to program the RDSoftKeys applet, or you
; can use the --map-file= switch to configure multiple soft
; key setups on the same host.

  Columns=4

  Command1=kele-air.kele.local:LC\ darkRed\ Remote\ Control!
  Legend1=Remote Control
  Color1=blue

  Command2=10.0.0.108:PM\ 1!
  Legend2=Live Assist
  Color2=yellow

  Command3=10.0.0.108:PM\ 2!
  Legend3=Auto
  Color3=green

  Command4=10.0.0.108:PM\ 3!
  Legend4=Manual
  Color4=red

  Command5=10.0.0.108:PN\ 0!
  Legend5=Play Next
  Color5=green

I tried just sending the RML from RMLsend and nothing is happening in
RDAirplay

Matthew A. Chambers, NR0Q

President, Wright County Outlaws ARC
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Re: [RDD] Rivendell Website

[Hoggins!]

Hello,

I'm all for it too !

Hoggins!

Le 31/10/2016 à 17:10, Michael Barnes a écrit :
> "Good Point, although the official site is paravelsystems.com..."
>
> Is it? I go way back with Rivendell, to at least 2005. I know Fred and
> Scott developed it for Salem and I was involved with some of the
> events that led to Salem's dropping the project. (Something I was
> vehemently against, which nearly cost me my job.) I'm glad that Fred
> and Scott were able to set up Paravel and continue the development of
> Rivendell and make it a viable product for those entities who just
> can't grasp the concept of Open Source and community support and
> development. However, I am a staunch supporter of Open Source and
> community support and I would like to see that preserved with
> Rivendell. I have nothing against Paravel for providing turnkey
> solutions and paid support options for Rivendell. After all, that
> business model allows for a lot of money to be made on Open Source
> software. However, from the Paravel website, it is difficult to see
> the Open Source aspects of Rivendell. There is no mention of the
> availability of source code or download locations. There is no mention
> of this forum or other support avenues. The only download options
> offered were for the Broadcast Appliance DVD. The station I tried to
> recommend Rivendell to actually went to the Paravel site and came away
> with the impression their only option was to purchase the workstations
> from Paravel with Rivendell installed for $5k each, way out of their
> budget. The pages at  http://rivendellaudio.org give a much better
> feel of the Open Source aspect of the project and that quality,
> professional automation is within reach of small, no budget,
> operations. It's just that those pages are woefully out of date. It
> would be helpful if they were more current.
>
> Just my thoughts.
>
> Michael




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Re: [RDD] Rivendell Website

[Michael Barnes]

"Good Point, although the official site is paravelsystems.com..."

Is it? I go way back with Rivendell, to at least 2005. I know Fred and
Scott developed it for Salem and I was involved with some of the events
that led to Salem's dropping the project. (Something I was vehemently
against, which nearly cost me my job.) I'm glad that Fred and Scott were
able to set up Paravel and continue the development of Rivendell and make
it a viable product for those entities who just can't grasp the concept of
Open Source and community support and development. However, I am a staunch
supporter of Open Source and community support and I would like to see that
preserved with Rivendell. I have nothing against Paravel for providing
turnkey solutions and paid support options for Rivendell. After all, that
business model allows for a lot of money to be made on Open Source
software. However, from the Paravel website, it is difficult to see the
Open Source aspects of Rivendell. There is no mention of the availability
of source code or download locations. There is no mention of this forum or
other support avenues. The only download options offered were for the
Broadcast Appliance DVD. The station I tried to recommend Rivendell to
actually went to the Paravel site and came away with the impression their
only option was to purchase the workstations from Paravel with Rivendell
installed for $5k each, way out of their budget. The pages at
http://rivendellaudio.org give a much better feel of the Open Source aspect
of the project and that quality, professional automation is within reach of
small, no budget, operations. It's just that those pages are woefully out
of date. It would be helpful if they were more current.

Just my thoughts.

Michael


On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 6:26 AM, John Anderson  wrote:

> Good Point, although the official site is paravelsystems.com...
>
> I don't know if the sites should/would ever be combined, but your
> question does offer an interesting starting point...
>
> thanks
>
>
> On Sun, 2016-10-30 at 21:47 -0700, Michael Barnes wrote:
> > I was recommending Rivendell to a radio station for their possible
> > use. When I went to the RD home page, http://www.rivendellaudio.org/,
> > I found the page was sorely outdated. The requirements section still
> > listed SuSE 9.x and some of the other info was old as well. Kind of
> > makes it hard to promote if the website is almost ten years old. Any
> > plans for someone to bring it up to date?
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RDD] Rivendell Website

[Bill Putney]

I'd suggest the Broadcast Appliance version of Rivendell from Paravel 
systems. You can find it at 
http://www.paravelsystems.com/rivendell-broadcast-appliance/ . It is a 
LiveCD and includes the Centos Linux distro. Put a CD or thumb drive in 
a PC and you have Rivendell in an hour or so. It requires a 64 bit 
computer with at least 512 GB of disk. I think 4 or 8 GB of memory would 
be good though I don't think the install script checks that. It will 
install a several different flavors of Rivendell depending on if you 
want a stand alone client/server or just a client. The server keeps the 
audio storage and the database for the audio. The client does the most 
of the work, has the user interface and does the playout of audio.


Bill Putney - WB6RFW
Chief Engineer
KPTZ - Port Townsend, WA

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it?" -Sheldon Cooper

On 10/30/16 9:47 PM, Michael Barnes wrote:
I was recommending Rivendell to a radio station for their possible 
use. When I went to the RD home page, http://www.rivendellaudio.org/, 
I found the page was sorely outdated. The requirements section still 
listed SuSE 9.x and some of the other info was old as well. Kind of 
makes it hard to promote if the website is almost ten years old. Any 
plans for someone to bring it up to date?


Michael

BTW, I fat fingered the address first time I entered it and 
accidentally found the rivendellaudio.com  
domain is available for 12 easy payments of $175 or a one-time payment 
of $2095!




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Re: [RDD] Rivendell Website

[VE4PER / Andy]

If outdated and nobody is maintaining the site, just add a redirect meta 
tag in the main page of www.rivendellaudio.org site sending someone to 
the main paravell site.



On 2016-10-31 08:26 AM, John Anderson wrote:

Good Point, although the official site is paravelsystems.com...

I don't know if the sites should/would ever be combined, but your
question does offer an interesting starting point...

thanks


On Sun, 2016-10-30 at 21:47 -0700, Michael Barnes wrote:

I was recommending Rivendell to a radio station for their possible
use. When I went to the RD home page, http://www.rivendellaudio.org/,
I found the page was sorely outdated. The requirements section still
listed SuSE 9.x and some of the other info was old as well. Kind of
makes it hard to promote if the website is almost ten years old. Any
plans for someone to bring it up to date?



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Re: [RDD] Rivendell Website

[John Anderson]

Good Point, although the official site is paravelsystems.com...

I don't know if the sites should/would ever be combined, but your
question does offer an interesting starting point...

thanks


On Sun, 2016-10-30 at 21:47 -0700, Michael Barnes wrote:
> I was recommending Rivendell to a radio station for their possible
> use. When I went to the RD home page, http://www.rivendellaudio.org/,
> I found the page was sorely outdated. The requirements section still
> listed SuSE 9.x and some of the other info was old as well. Kind of
> makes it hard to promote if the website is almost ten years old. Any
> plans for someone to bring it up to date?



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