Re: CS>Smart meters

[Jane MacRoss]

I actually previously also looked into lead sheeting - very expensive!

Here (Victoria Australia)  the letter I received said I was breaking 'the law' 
by not accepting the meter and quoted the law No. blah blah  I shall push 
for solar & go off grid.

Thanks PT  //  Jane


  I have been told that aluminum foil will not do the job.  Aluminum actually 
conducts electricity quite well.  

  Once it is in they will tell you they don't have the analogue meters any 
longer.  It seems there is a movement to bring them back for people who are 
sensitive but it hasn't happened yet... at least in Florida.
  Good luck.  Be persistent.

RE: CS>Smart meters

[Bob Banever]

PT,

 

   Did you use aluminum foil or something else?  I've read that thick
multiple layers of aluminum foil will block the microwaves but I'm not sure.

 

Bob

 

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From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 2:24 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Smart meters

 

Yes.  I had it done by my electrician and I can feel the difference in the
room closest to the meter.
PT

 

 

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From: Scott Adams 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Smart meters





Grounded?

 

From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 2:52 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Smart meters

 

I just put a shield on mine.  1/4" plate steel behind and along the side the
house is on.
PT

 

 

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From: Paul Steel 
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 1:06 PM
Subject: CS>Smart meters


Anyone have any success in Massachusetts calling national grid and having
them move the smart meter from your home ??

Thanks 
Paul 

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Re: CS>Smart meters

[PT Ferrance]

I have been told that aluminum foil will not do the job.  Aluminum actually 
conducts electricity quite well.  When I purchased this house it was already 
installed.  Where I lived before I was there when they came to change it out.  
I had called the power company and told them I was sensitive to the fields it 
radiated and I did not want it installed and they did not install one for me.  
Unfortunately I lived on the end of the building and there were 7 others on the 
wall... so I moved!  Once it is in they will tell you they don't have the 
analogue meters any longer.  It seems there is a movement to bring them back 
for people who are sensitive but it hasn't happened yet... at least in Florida.
Good luck.  Be persistent.
Blessings, PT





 From: Jane MacRoss 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Smart meters
 


 
Installation here appears to be legally 
imperative & immanent - I am urgently researching going completely off 
grid but this takes time & this is my 4th attempt at finding some one to 
come & quote & then be prepared to do the job! - hoping the company will 
give me a quote that is manageable - however should the Smartmeter 'get in 
first' I wondered if aluminium foil would be sufficiently protective? I 
have those Alfoil baking dishes (the disposable type) much thicker than the 
cooking foil? I thought layers of them might be sufficient? I gather ours are 
read by local EMF towers - no meter maid required.
 
Jane

>
>Yes.   I had it done by my electrician and I can feel the difference in the 
>room  closest to the meter.
>PT
>

Re: CS>Smart meters

[Jane MacRoss]

Installation here appears to be legally imperative & immanent - I am urgently 
researching going completely off grid but this takes time & this is my 4th 
attempt at finding some one to come & quote & then be prepared to do the job! - 
hoping the company will give me a quote that is manageable - however should the 
Smartmeter 'get in first' I wondered if aluminium foil would be sufficiently 
protective? I have those Alfoil baking dishes (the disposable type) much 
thicker than the cooking foil? I thought layers of them might be sufficient? I 
gather ours are read by local EMF towers - no meter maid required.

Jane


  Yes.  I had it done by my electrician and I can feel the difference in the 
room closest to the meter.
  PT

Re: CS>Smart meters

[PT Ferrance]

Yes.  I had it done by my electrician and I can feel the difference in the room 
closest to the meter.
PT





 From: Scott Adams 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Smart meters
 


Grounded?
 
From:PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 2:52 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Smart meters
 
I just put a shield on mine.  1/4" plate steel behind and along the side the 
house is on.
PT
 
 



From:Paul Steel 
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 1:06 PM
Subject: CS>Smart meters

Anyone have any success in Massachusetts calling national grid and having them 
move the smart meter from your home ??

Thanks 
Paul 

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Re: CS>Smart meters

[PT Ferrance]

I just put a shield on mine.  1/4" plate steel behind and along the side the 
house is on.
PT





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To: "silver-list@eskimo.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 1:06 PM
Subject: CS>Smart meters
 

Anyone have any success in Massachusetts calling national grid and having them 
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RE: CS>Smart meters

[Scott Adams]

Grounded?

 

From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 2:52 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Smart meters

 

I just put a shield on mine.  1/4" plate steel behind and along the side the 
house is on.
PT

 

 

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From: Paul Steel 
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com"  
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 1:06 PM
Subject: CS>Smart meters


Anyone have any success in Massachusetts calling national grid and having them 
move the smart meter from your home ??

Thanks 
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CS>Smart meters

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Thanks 
Paul 

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RE: CS>Undetactable silver

[Neville Munn]

That would be right, but then no meter, be it a TDS or an EC meter will give 
accurate results.  They 'estimate'.
I would not be too concerned about ppm being accurate, it doesn't have to be 
100% accurate for 'in house' purposes.  If you want 100% accuracy for 
commercial purposes, you'll have to take some to a laboratory, but you'd better 
take several samples so you can see a bigger picture of how the results will 
vary from one sample to another dependant on many factors.
Don't pay too much attention to information vendors of machines put about 
either, remember, they ALL want people to purchase THEIR machines, hence they 
will distort, exaggerate and mislead to get those sales.  ALL those machines 
which operate using LVDC produce the same end product.  LVDC machines do not 
produce 'Colloidal Silver', they produce a 'predominantly Ionic silver 
solution'.
You want to know how good your end product is?  Use visual observation.  Stock 
standard TDS meter - double the reading will get you in the ball park with an 
'estimate'.  An EC meter will have an inbuilt compensator/calculator which will 
calculate and get you in the ball park with a better 'estimate' maybe, but they 
both work on 'estimates'.
Combine either/all of the above with colour and clarity of solution in your end 
product i.e. 
1.  Clear with perfect clarity or transparency of solution - no problems as a 
meter will give you an estimate of ppm.  Use a laser pointer to highlight 
particle content.  Varying brightness of the conical beam indicates roughly if 
you have no, a few, many or anywhere inbetween of particle content.

2.  Colour evident from clear up to golden - refer to 1.
3.  If no settlement observable over time in storage - refer to 1.
If you've ticked all the above, any particles present will be bioavailable 
within the body, besides which, those particles are stuck together encased in 
water, so what happens to those 'particles' when exposed to the many 
ingredients which make up the human body after it's ingested?  I also don't put 
any store in that stomach acid business either, millions of people around the 
world can't be wrong in the efficacy of the home produced product!  So 
something else must be going on inside the body for it to be so efficacious.
Vendors can argue the toss over particle size and their TEM images until the 
cows come home.Irrelevant, unnecessary and meaningless for the home 
producer, if you can tick the above boxes then it's bioavailable.
I had several samples of mine lab analysed many years ago so I stand by all the 
above for the home producer.  And while I have my own opinions, there are many 
here that will give you information which may not entirely agree with mine, so 
be it .
N.
From: gidonke...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 02:30:18 +0300
Subject: CS>Undetactable silver

The vendor of my CS generator claims the ppm of the CS solution is inaccurately 
measured by a TDS meter,  since the silver particles the generator produce are 
too small (around 1 nano to his claim), is that correct? RegardsGidon   
   

Re: CS>Silver Puppy for Ken

[Alan Jones]

I do this all of the time -- use manual + swap.


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 8:34 AM, melly  wrote:

>  Ken,
>
> ** **
>
> Please ignore my previous message that there is no light when I set up the
> machines.  Embarrassing, but it was because my electrodes were not pushed
> in well and eventually fell off the generator.
>
> ** **
>
> To make higher ppm, I put it on manual and swap modes.  Is that ok, or
> should it be in manual and dc modes?
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks.
>
> ** **
>
> Melly
>
> ** **
>
> When diet is wrong, medicine is of no use.
>
> When diet is correct, medicine is of no need.
>
> The best way to forget all your troubles is to 
>
> wear tight shoes.
>
> ** **
>



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CS>Silver Puppy for Ken

[melly]

Ken,

 

Please ignore my previous message that there is no light when I set up the
machines.  Embarrassing, but it was because my electrodes were not pushed in
well and eventually fell off the generator.

 

To make higher ppm, I put it on manual and swap modes.  Is that ok, or
should it be in manual and dc modes?

 

Thanks.

 

Melly

 

When diet is wrong, medicine is of no use.

When diet is correct, medicine is of no need.

The best way to forget all your troubles is to 

wear tight shoes.

 

CS>Silver Puppy for Ken

[melly]

Hi Ken,

 

I brewed EIS yesterday and got 6ppm overnight for one gallon.  This morning
I wanted to increase the ppm, washed the electrodes and set the turbo
generator to manual and dc modes.  When I turned the machines on, there was
no green light.  Even when I cupped my hand around the generator to make it
dark so I could see the light, still, no light.  Please help me with this.

 

Thanks.

 

Melly