Re: CSAnimals, Children, and Logic
Growling and biting works pretty well. Dogs already understand that Go/ No-go language. A low growl is worth a thousand shouted commands. A little nip on an ear for punctuation. ode At 04:31 PM 5/31/2007 -0400, you wrote: Dogs can be corrected without being hit. I refer you to: Cesar's Way by Cesar Millan, If you truly want to train a dog the right way, this is REQUIRED reading...you don't have to yell at them either... -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.5/826 - Release Date: 5/31/2007 4:51 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnimals, Children, and Logic
Wonder if you can read this on line? I need to learn how. LOL - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Re: CSAnimals, Children, and Logic Growling and biting works pretty well. Dogs already understand that Go/ No-go language. A low growl is worth a thousand shouted commands. A little nip on an ear for punctuation. ode At 04:31 PM 5/31/2007 -0400, you wrote: Dogs can be corrected without being hit. I refer you to: Cesar's Way by Cesar Millan, If you truly want to train a dog the right way, this is REQUIRED reading...you don't have to yell at them either... -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.5/826 - Release Date: 5/31/2007 4:51 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSAnimals, Children, and Logic
Evening Jodi, At 02:12 PM 5/31/2007, you wrote: Reading those words made me feel nauseous. I can only hope and pray, that no dog or animal of any kind, has the misfortune of coming to you for help or a home. You are dead wrong my friend. Most are well treated, loved, and treated kindly. Every dog that I correct in this fashion, I am saving his life. There are service dogs, police dogs, war dogs, and working dogs. For many of these animals, one bad habit makes them worthless. Just like people. I work with REAL DOGS, none of those worthless critters that sit in your lap and the owner is a servant to the dogs. I will write a full report of Real Dogs and make a web page, then post the link. If you can't stand to punish and correct, you should neither own a dog or have a child.Enough Said ! How many lives would be saved by applying my ideas and philosophy to the children of today? Look at the kids that shoot others? They should have been treated the way I treat a dog that has become worthless due to ONE BAD habit. One good baseball bat on the head is often enough to get the job done. Example. One dog had a bad habit. I corrected him once. In his whole life, 10 years plus, he never did it again. I made that dog valuable, very valuable, with one correction at the right place and the right time. I am sorry, but Logic is on MY SIDE ! Some people are too soft hearted to do any serious training of anything. I have a grand daughter that way. He is going to a horse college now. She owns a beautiful and intelligent dog. She may become a horse trainer. I tell her, she has to learn when to correct and discipline. She does love her dog. She cannot scold or correct him. A terrible situation. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnimals, Children, and Logic
Dogs can be corrected without being hit. I refer you to: Cesar's Way by Cesar Millan, If you truly want to train a dog the right way, this is REQUIRED reading...you don't have to yell at them either... On 5/31/07, CWFugitt c_wa...@earthlink.net wrote: Evening Jodi, At 02:12 PM 5/31/2007, you wrote: Reading those words made me feel nauseous. I can only hope and pray, that no dog or animal of any kind, has the misfortune of coming to you for help or a home. You are dead wrong my friend. Most are well treated, loved, and treated kindly. Every dog that I correct in this fashion, I am saving his life. There are service dogs, police dogs, war dogs, and working dogs. For many of these animals, one bad habit makes them worthless. Just like people. I work with REAL DOGS, none of those worthless critters that sit in your lap and the owner is a servant to the dogs. I will write a full report of Real Dogs and make a web page, then post the link. If you can't stand to punish and correct, you should neither own a dog or have a child.Enough Said ! How many lives would be saved by applying my ideas and philosophy to the children of today? Look at the kids that shoot others? They should have been treated the way I treat a dog that has become worthless due to ONE BAD habit. One good baseball bat on the head is often enough to get the job done. Example. One dog had a bad habit. I corrected him once. In his whole life, 10 years plus, he never did it again. I made that dog valuable, very valuable, with one correction at the right place and the right time. I am sorry, but Logic is on MY SIDE ! Some people are too soft hearted to do any serious training of anything. I have a grand daughter that way. He is going to a horse college now. She owns a beautiful and intelligent dog. She may become a horse trainer. I tell her, she has to learn when to correct and discipline. She does love her dog. She cannot scold or correct him. A terrible situation. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
Re: CSAnimals, Children, and Logic
CWFugitt wrote on 5/31/2007, 2:59 PM: One good baseball bat on the head is often enough to get the job done. Open mouth, insert foot. There's not one iota of logic or fact in statements like that. Jodi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnimals, Children, and Logic
Please check out Sue Ailsby's site (www.dragonflyllama.com). Click on the 'Mind to Mind' logo (dog/human) on the left side (under Sue's picture) and read about how you CAN train your dog with NO negative reinforcement whatsoever! ! ! I have taken a variety of seminars from Sue and always learn something new from her methods. To watch her work with her service dogs (Scuba and Stitch) and to also know that these dogs are trained in obedience, conformation, agility, service dog work, drafting, etc, etc, etc. is always a joy to watch. She has some specific things to say about Cesar Millan but I will not get into that hereit's enough that we are heading way off topic again... Denise - Original Message - From: Day Sutton To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 2:31 PM Subject: Re: CSAnimals, Children, and Logic Dogs can be corrected without being hit. I refer you to: Cesar's Way by Cesar Millan, If you truly want to train a dog the right way, this is REQUIRED reading...you don't have to yell at them either... On 5/31/07, CWFugitt c_wa...@earthlink.net wrote: Evening Jodi, At 02:12 PM 5/31/2007, you wrote: Reading those words made me feel nauseous. I can only hope and pray, that no dog or animal of any kind, has the misfortune of coming to you for help or a home. You are dead wrong my friend. Most are well treated, loved, and treated kindly. Every dog that I correct in this fashion, I am saving his life. There are service dogs, police dogs, war dogs, and working dogs. For many of these animals, one bad habit makes them worthless. Just like people. I work with REAL DOGS, none of those worthless critters that sit in your lap and the owner is a servant to the dogs. I will write a full report of Real Dogs and make a web page, then post the link. If you can't stand to punish and correct, you should neither own a dog or have a child.Enough Said ! How many lives would be saved by applying my ideas and philosophy to the children of today? Look at the kids that shoot others? They should have been treated the way I treat a dog that has become worthless due to ONE BAD habit. One good baseball bat on the head is often enough to get the job done. Example. One dog had a bad habit. I corrected him once. In his whole life, 10 years plus, he never did it again. I made that dog valuable, very valuable, with one correction at the right place and the right time. I am sorry, but Logic is on MY SIDE ! Some people are too soft hearted to do any serious training of anything. I have a grand daughter that way. He is going to a horse college now. She owns a beautiful and intelligent dog. She may become a horse trainer. I tell her, she has to learn when to correct and discipline. She does love her dog. She cannot scold or correct him. A terrible situation. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.4/825 - Release Date: 30/05/2007 3:03 PM
Re: CSAnimals, Children, and Logic
I thought this was a colloidal silver forum -- Original message -- From: Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com Dogs can be corrected without being hit. I refer you to: Cesar's Way by Cesar Millan, If you truly want to train a dog the right way, this is REQUIRED reading...you don't have to yell at them either... On 5/31/07, CWFugitt c_wa...@earthlink.net wrote: Evening Jodi, At 02:12 PM 5/31/2007, you wrote: Reading those words made me feel nauseous. I can only hope and pray, that no dog or animal of any kind, has the misfortune of coming to you for help or a home. You are dead wrong my friend. Most are well treated, loved, and treated kindly. Every dog that I correct in this fashion, I am saving his life. There are service dogs, police dogs, war dogs, and working dogs. For many of these animals, one bad habit makes them worthless. Just like people. I work with REAL DOGS, none of those worthless critters that sit in your lap and the owner is a servant to the dogs. I will write a full report of Real Dogs and make a web page, then post the link. If you can't stand to punish and correct, you should neither own a dog or have a child.Enough Said ! How many lives would be saved by applying my ideas and philosophy to the children of today? Look at the kids that shoot others? They should have been treated the way I treat a dog that has become worthless due to ONE BAD habit. One good baseball bat on the head is often enough to get the job done. Example. One dog had a bad habit. I corrected him once. In his whole life, 10 years plus, he never did it again. I made that dog valuable, very valuable, with one correction at the right place and the right time. I am sorry, but Logic is on MY SIDE ! Some people are too soft hearted to do any serious training of anything. I have a grand daughter that way. He is going to a horse college now. She owns a beautiful and intelligent dog. She may become a horse trainer. I tell her, she has to learn when to correct and discipline. She does love her dog. She cannot scold or correct him. A terrible situation. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
Re: CSAnimals, Children, and Logic
Plenty of animals have been trained and trained well for not only good behavior but to do various tasks without any punishment or correction. So have children. I have to say CW that your attitude to animals is disgusting to me. Their lives are valuable, period. In and of themselves even when completely useless to humans. Humans and their desires are NOT the indicators or arbiters of worth for any lifeform. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAnimals, Children, and Logic
It used to be. I'm gone - Original Message - From: mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 3:04 PM Subject: Re: CSAnimals, Children, and Logic I thought this was a colloidal silver forum -- Original message -- From: Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com Dogs can be corrected without being hit. I refer you to: Cesar's Way by Cesar Millan, If you truly want to train a dog the right way, this is REQUIRED reading...you don't have to yell at them either... On 5/31/07, CWFugitt c_wa...@earthlink.net wrote: Evening Jodi, At 02:12 PM 5/31/2007, you wrote: Reading those words made me feel nauseous. I can only hope and pray, that no dog or animal of any kind, has the misfortune of coming to you for help or a home. You are dead wrong my friend. Most are well treated, loved, and treated kindly. Every dog that I correct in this fashion, I am saving his life. There are service dogs, police dogs, war dogs, and working dogs. For many of these animals, one bad habit makes them worthless. Just like people. I work with REAL DOGS, none of those worthless critters that sit in your lap and the owner is a servant to the dogs. I will write a full report of Real Dogs and make a web page, then post the link. If you can't stand to punish and correct, you should neither own a dog or have a child.Enough Said ! How many lives would be saved by applying my ideas and philosophy to the children of today? Look at the kids that shoot others? They should have been treated the way I treat a dog that has become worthless due to ONE BAD habit. One good baseball bat on the head is often enough to get the job done. Example. One dog had a bad habit. I corrected him once. In his whole life, 10 years plus, he never did it again. I made that dog valuable, very valuable, with one correction at the right place and the right time. I am sorry, but Logic is on MY SIDE ! Some people are too soft hearted to do any serious training of anything. I have a grand daughter that way. He is going to a horse college now. She owns a beautiful and intelligent dog. She may become a horse trainer. I tell her, she has to learn when to correct and discipline. She does love her dog. She cannot scold or correct him. A terrible situation. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.4/825 - Release Date: 5/30/2007 3:03 PM
Re: CSAnimals, Children, and Logic
Jodi, Open mouth, insert foot. There's not one iota of logic or fact in statements like that. I think all the dead people, and their families would disagree. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
