Re: CSRe: Some updates from me...

2013-12-04 Thread PT Ferrance
I believe it was hydrolyzed collagen that was used in the protocol.
Have you found a new source of CMO?
PT





 From: Malcolm s...@asis.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: CSRe: Some updates from me...
 

Hi Joe,
So have I but it isn't the same as the stuff I've originally used.
Beyond a century sells a powder which probably contains some/many of the
constituents, but CMO has about 9 - guess you could call them analogs -
with varying properties and various concentrations.  The stuff I used
successfully was in a (possibly) tallow-like base but with a fairly low
melting point; I think the base was actually a reacting medium of/for
the compound itself.  At any rate it worked. I followed the original
protocol using the CMO MSM and ??? (was it glucosamine? durn!, can't
remember at this moment).  Anyway, three doses a day for ten days, avoid
fats for at least a couple of hours around taking the pills, and no
alcohol for the entire ten days. - And no coffee either, but I cheated
on that one.

I'm afraid the stuff has acquired the mystique of a miracle substance,
and so is of course sold shrouded in mystery, manufactured in
proprietary fashion - even by Harry Diehl's family.

So it goes.
Malcolm

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 09:49 -0500, Joe Huard wrote:
 I have bought cetyl myristoleate from Beyond a Century, but it's not 
 there anymore. Hmm?
 Joe
 On 03/12/2013 3:35 AM, Malcolm wrote:
  Hi Mike,
  What wonderful news!  You are addressing a couple of the chronic
  problems I face; the blood pressure, and more recently pain in shoulders
  makes the top shelf in the fridge almost impossible for anything heavier
  than a half gallon of milk and now in my right hip makes walking chancy
  for 'ouch!' too.
 
  Thanks for sharing, I'll be checking out Don Croft's zapper and Brooks'
  protocol as well.
 
  In the past I've used cetyl myristoleate for the shoulders and it also
  relieved a stiff knee I've had since forever(that effect was completely
  unexpected), but CMO in the quantity and form I used has become
  unavailable - at least I couldn't find it.
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSRe: Some updates from me...

2013-12-04 Thread Marshall
My family and I have used CMO from here a number of times with very good 
results:


http://cmo-usa.com/

Marshall

On 12/4/2013 12:38 AM, Malcolm wrote:

Thanks Joe,
I'd given up on finding it again years ago but it looks like Jarrow has
something possibly the same or similar.  I'm gonna give it a try; I'll
let you know what comes of it.
M.

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 10:07 -0500, Joe Huard wrote:

I found it listed here,
http://www.swansonvitamins.com/q?kw=cetyl+myristoleate

Joe
On 03/12/2013 3:35 AM, Malcolm wrote:

In the past I've used cetyl myristoleate for the shoulders and it also
relieved a stiff knee I've had since forever(that effect was completely
unexpected), but CMO in the quantity and form I used has become
unavailable - at least I couldn't find it.

Thanks again!
Malcolm




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Re: CSRe: Some updates from me...

2013-12-03 Thread Malcolm
Hi Mike,
What wonderful news!  You are addressing a couple of the chronic
problems I face; the blood pressure, and more recently pain in shoulders
makes the top shelf in the fridge almost impossible for anything heavier
than a half gallon of milk and now in my right hip makes walking chancy
for 'ouch!' too.

Thanks for sharing, I'll be checking out Don Croft's zapper and Brooks'
protocol as well. 

In the past I've used cetyl myristoleate for the shoulders and it also
relieved a stiff knee I've had since forever(that effect was completely
unexpected), but CMO in the quantity and form I used has become
unavailable - at least I couldn't find it.

Thanks again!
Malcolm

On Mon, 2013-12-02 at 18:38 -0500, M.G. Devour wrote:
 Hi again folks,
 
 In my last e-mail I talked about the success I've been having with
 Brooks Bradley's arthritis protocol and Beta-Sitosterol for prostate
 issues. Now for fun with a Zapper!
 
 I received my Don Croft Zapper on the 28th of October, at which point
 I'd been off nearly all supplements and protocols I'd been using for
 about two weeks.
 
 Don's design is a basic Clark-style zapper using, I presume, a 555 timer
 chip and perhaps some waveform shaping or at least current limiting
 components. I believe it puts out 9 volts or so open circuit, a bit less
 than 50% duty cycle, and 15 Hertz (cycles per second).
 
 It comes in a case about the size of a smallish pack of playing cards,
 with two copper discs on one side and a slide switch and a small green
 LED on one end. There is a good sized neodymium magnet inside the case,
 placed where it will be near your skin when you wear it. There are also
 other features of a metaphysical nature I will leave for those
 interested in such things to research. wink
 
 I started wearing it right away; placing it on top of a shoulder,
 slipping it under my waistband, putting it in the bottom of my sock at
 night or at the calf during the day. I've found that an ACE bandage
 works well to let you wear it in other places, such as on your upper
 arms or on a thigh. I've occasionally spent a few minutes applying it by
 hand to my face, head, or neck. The top cut off of a sock will let you
 wear it on your calf when you'd rather go barefoot.
 
 So here is the first thing that fixed itself after I started using my
 Zapper:
 
 For as long as I've measured them, my urine and saliva pH have always
 been low unless I was actively taking something like baking soda or
 potassium citrate in order to raise them at least temporarily into a
 healthy range. Only rarely would I ever see a reading that wasn't off
 the bottom of the pH strip range at 5.0. This was even true first thing
 in the morning, let alone after I'd eaten.
 
 I recorded the following data:
 
 October 28th:
2:55 pm Urine pH between 5.0 and 5.5, shortly after lunch
 
 October 29th:
6:30 am morning pH: 5.5 urine, 6.0 saliva
 
 October 30th:
 10:30 am morning pH: 6.5 urine, 6.5 saliva
 
 The next day urine was back down near 5.0, and has varied widely since,
 depending on when and what I ate the previous day and how much acid
 waste products are still in the bloodstream, but is most frequently in
 the area of 6.0, which I've NEVER SEEN unless forced by supplementation.
 
 Saliva pH, which is more representative of your lymphatic fluid, has
 been ROCK STEADY at 6.5 with an occasional blip to 7.0. 
 
 This has gone on for over a month now, with no changes in diet or
 lifestyle choices other than the wearing of the zapper.
 
 What next? Blood pressure, I say! For at least the last decade I've
 enjoyed mild to moderate hypertension, with systolic readings from
 140-170 depending on where and when it was measured, and diastolic
 pressure seldom below 80 and usually between 82 and 88, with occasional
 spikes over 90, just to rub my nose in it. sigh
 
 Nothing I've ever done that's supposed to help lower blood pressure has
 caused mine to budge.
 
 On Tuesday, October 29th, I got a typical reading for sitting around at
 home:
 
 4:15 pm Blood pressure: 134/83 left, 145/85 right, after only a minute
 or two of inactivity. Pulse around 80.
 
 Two and a half weeks later, on Saturday, November 16th, I recorded:
 
 6:20 pm Blood Pressure before dinner with daughter's cuff and
 stethoscope:
128/72 sitting at dining room table for a few minutes
 6:45 pm 128/70, with our cuff, almost nodding off sitting on couch in
 living room
 
 Within the next week and a half I had appointments with a couple of
 different doctors, and the readings in the doctor's office were both in
 the 130/70 range.
 
 Purdy. Darned. Amazing!
 
 I am just thrilled by this. Couldn't help mentioning it to those
 doctors. They didn't have a whole lot to say, unsurprisingly. grin
 
 So, while I continue to wear the Zapper every day nearly full time,
 awaiting any other welcome effects that may choose to show up, it's
 already paid off beyond my wildest expectations. I can at least look
 forward to BP and pH being healthy without 

Re: CSRe: Some updates from me...

2013-12-03 Thread Joe Huard
I have bought cetyl myristoleate from Beyond a Century, but it's not 
there anymore. Hmm?

Joe
On 03/12/2013 3:35 AM, Malcolm wrote:

Hi Mike,
What wonderful news!  You are addressing a couple of the chronic
problems I face; the blood pressure, and more recently pain in shoulders
makes the top shelf in the fridge almost impossible for anything heavier
than a half gallon of milk and now in my right hip makes walking chancy
for 'ouch!' too.

Thanks for sharing, I'll be checking out Don Croft's zapper and Brooks'
protocol as well.

In the past I've used cetyl myristoleate for the shoulders and it also
relieved a stiff knee I've had since forever(that effect was completely
unexpected), but CMO in the quantity and form I used has become
unavailable - at least I couldn't find it.





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Re: CSRe: Some updates from me...

2013-12-03 Thread Joe Huard
I found it listed here, 
http://www.swansonvitamins.com/q?kw=cetyl+myristoleate


Joe
On 03/12/2013 3:35 AM, Malcolm wrote:


In the past I've used cetyl myristoleate for the shoulders and it also
relieved a stiff knee I've had since forever(that effect was completely
unexpected), but CMO in the quantity and form I used has become
unavailable - at least I couldn't find it.

Thanks again!
Malcolm





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Re: CSRe: Some updates from me...

2013-12-03 Thread PT Ferrance
I just spoke with Eric at BaC and they cannot get a reliable source any longer 
so people may want to check for other providers.
PT





 From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe: Some updates from me...
 

I have bought cetyl myristoleate from Beyond a Century, but it's not there 
anymore. Hmm?
Joe
On 03/12/2013 3:35 AM, Malcolm wrote:
 Hi Mike,
 What wonderful news!  You are addressing a couple of the chronic
 problems I face; the blood pressure, and more recently pain in shoulders
 makes the top shelf in the fridge almost impossible for anything heavier
 than a half gallon of milk and now in my right hip makes walking chancy
 for 'ouch!' too.
 
 Thanks for sharing, I'll be checking out Don Croft's zapper and Brooks'
 protocol as well.
 
 In the past I've used cetyl myristoleate for the shoulders and it also
 relieved a stiff knee I've had since forever(that effect was completely
 unexpected), but CMO in the quantity and form I used has become
 unavailable - at least I couldn't find it.
 
 


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Re: CSRe: Some updates from me...

2013-12-03 Thread Jane MacRoss

I had reat success with Harry Diehl's CMO but he's retired

Jane
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Re: CSRe: Some updates from me...

2013-12-03 Thread PT Ferrance
I thought it was the powder that was required???
PT





 From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe: Some updates from me...
 

I had reat success with Harry Diehl's CMO but he's retired

Jane
---


 I found it listed here, http://www.swansonvitamins.com/q?kw=cetyl+myristoleate
 


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Re: CSRe: Some updates from me...

2013-12-03 Thread Malcolm
Hi Joe,
So have I but it isn't the same as the stuff I've originally used.
Beyond a century sells a powder which probably contains some/many of the
constituents, but CMO has about 9 - guess you could call them analogs -
with varying properties and various concentrations.  The stuff I used
successfully was in a (possibly) tallow-like base but with a fairly low
melting point; I think the base was actually a reacting medium of/for
the compound itself.  At any rate it worked. I followed the original
protocol using the CMO MSM and ??? (was it glucosamine? durn!, can't
remember at this moment).  Anyway, three doses a day for ten days, avoid
fats for at least a couple of hours around taking the pills, and no
alcohol for the entire ten days. - And no coffee either, but I cheated
on that one.

I'm afraid the stuff has acquired the mystique of a miracle substance,
and so is of course sold shrouded in mystery, manufactured in
proprietary fashion - even by Harry Diehl's family.

So it goes.
Malcolm

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 09:49 -0500, Joe Huard wrote:
 I have bought cetyl myristoleate from Beyond a Century, but it's not 
 there anymore. Hmm?
 Joe
 On 03/12/2013 3:35 AM, Malcolm wrote:
  Hi Mike,
  What wonderful news!  You are addressing a couple of the chronic
  problems I face; the blood pressure, and more recently pain in shoulders
  makes the top shelf in the fridge almost impossible for anything heavier
  than a half gallon of milk and now in my right hip makes walking chancy
  for 'ouch!' too.
 
  Thanks for sharing, I'll be checking out Don Croft's zapper and Brooks'
  protocol as well.
 
  In the past I've used cetyl myristoleate for the shoulders and it also
  relieved a stiff knee I've had since forever(that effect was completely
  unexpected), but CMO in the quantity and form I used has become
  unavailable - at least I couldn't find it.
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSRe: Some updates from me...

2013-12-03 Thread Malcolm
Thanks Joe,
I'd given up on finding it again years ago but it looks like Jarrow has
something possibly the same or similar.  I'm gonna give it a try; I'll
let you know what comes of it.
M.

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 10:07 -0500, Joe Huard wrote:
 I found it listed here, 
 http://www.swansonvitamins.com/q?kw=cetyl+myristoleate
 
 Joe
 On 03/12/2013 3:35 AM, Malcolm wrote:
 
  In the past I've used cetyl myristoleate for the shoulders and it also
  relieved a stiff knee I've had since forever(that effect was completely
  unexpected), but CMO in the quantity and form I used has become
  unavailable - at least I couldn't find it.
 
  Thanks again!
  Malcolm
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSRe: Some updates from me...

2013-12-03 Thread Malcolm
I had no help from the powder from beyond a century, see my reply to
Joe.
Take care,
M.

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 10:40 -0800, PT Ferrance wrote:
 I thought it was the powder that was required???
 PT
 
 
 
 
 
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 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: CSRe: Some updates from me...
 
 
 I had reat success with Harry Diehl's CMO but he's retired
 
 Jane
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 +myristoleate
  
 
 
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CSRe: Some updates from me...

2013-12-02 Thread M.G. Devour
Hi again folks,

In my last e-mail I talked about the success I've been having with
Brooks Bradley's arthritis protocol and Beta-Sitosterol for prostate
issues. Now for fun with a Zapper!

I received my Don Croft Zapper on the 28th of October, at which point
I'd been off nearly all supplements and protocols I'd been using for
about two weeks.

Don's design is a basic Clark-style zapper using, I presume, a 555 timer
chip and perhaps some waveform shaping or at least current limiting
components. I believe it puts out 9 volts or so open circuit, a bit less
than 50% duty cycle, and 15 Hertz (cycles per second).

It comes in a case about the size of a smallish pack of playing cards,
with two copper discs on one side and a slide switch and a small green
LED on one end. There is a good sized neodymium magnet inside the case,
placed where it will be near your skin when you wear it. There are also
other features of a metaphysical nature I will leave for those
interested in such things to research. wink

I started wearing it right away; placing it on top of a shoulder,
slipping it under my waistband, putting it in the bottom of my sock at
night or at the calf during the day. I've found that an ACE bandage
works well to let you wear it in other places, such as on your upper
arms or on a thigh. I've occasionally spent a few minutes applying it by
hand to my face, head, or neck. The top cut off of a sock will let you
wear it on your calf when you'd rather go barefoot.

So here is the first thing that fixed itself after I started using my
Zapper:

For as long as I've measured them, my urine and saliva pH have always
been low unless I was actively taking something like baking soda or
potassium citrate in order to raise them at least temporarily into a
healthy range. Only rarely would I ever see a reading that wasn't off
the bottom of the pH strip range at 5.0. This was even true first thing
in the morning, let alone after I'd eaten.

I recorded the following data:

October 28th:
   2:55 pm Urine pH between 5.0 and 5.5, shortly after lunch

October 29th:
   6:30 am morning pH: 5.5 urine, 6.0 saliva

October 30th:
10:30 am morning pH: 6.5 urine, 6.5 saliva

The next day urine was back down near 5.0, and has varied widely since,
depending on when and what I ate the previous day and how much acid
waste products are still in the bloodstream, but is most frequently in
the area of 6.0, which I've NEVER SEEN unless forced by supplementation.

Saliva pH, which is more representative of your lymphatic fluid, has
been ROCK STEADY at 6.5 with an occasional blip to 7.0. 

This has gone on for over a month now, with no changes in diet or
lifestyle choices other than the wearing of the zapper.

What next? Blood pressure, I say! For at least the last decade I've
enjoyed mild to moderate hypertension, with systolic readings from
140-170 depending on where and when it was measured, and diastolic
pressure seldom below 80 and usually between 82 and 88, with occasional
spikes over 90, just to rub my nose in it. sigh

Nothing I've ever done that's supposed to help lower blood pressure has
caused mine to budge.

On Tuesday, October 29th, I got a typical reading for sitting around at
home:

4:15 pm Blood pressure: 134/83 left, 145/85 right, after only a minute
or two of inactivity. Pulse around 80.

Two and a half weeks later, on Saturday, November 16th, I recorded:

6:20 pm Blood Pressure before dinner with daughter's cuff and
stethoscope:
   128/72 sitting at dining room table for a few minutes
6:45 pm 128/70, with our cuff, almost nodding off sitting on couch in
living room

Within the next week and a half I had appointments with a couple of
different doctors, and the readings in the doctor's office were both in
the 130/70 range.

Purdy. Darned. Amazing!

I am just thrilled by this. Couldn't help mentioning it to those
doctors. They didn't have a whole lot to say, unsurprisingly. grin

So, while I continue to wear the Zapper every day nearly full time,
awaiting any other welcome effects that may choose to show up, it's
already paid off beyond my wildest expectations. I can at least look
forward to BP and pH being healthy without pills or powders.

I am just coming off an aggressive anti-inflammatory protocol (ending 2
weeks prior to the Zapper), so I may have been prepped to see these
benefits, but nothing I've done with diet or supplements has changed
either value in up to 10 years, so it's not some kind of delayed
reaction to coming off the supplements. The only active protocol I was
doing was continuous Zapping.

Call it placebo effect or spontaneous remission if you like; I'm
calling it a causal link. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

I'll have more to share as things move along, but that's the good stuff
for now.

Be well!

Mike D.









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RE: CSRe: Some updates from me...

2013-12-02 Thread Scott Adams
Mike have you ruled out Chronic Lyme disease or one of its co-infections?
Your symptoms sound very similar to ones I hear frequently on my lyme rife
list.


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-Original Message-
From: M.G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 5:39 PM
To: silver-list
Subject: CSRe: Some updates from me...

Hi again folks,

In my last e-mail I talked about the success I've been having with Brooks
Bradley's arthritis protocol and Beta-Sitosterol for prostate issues. Now
for fun with a Zapper!

I received my Don Croft Zapper on the 28th of October, at which point I'd
been off nearly all supplements and protocols I'd been using for about two
weeks.

Don's design is a basic Clark-style zapper using, I presume, a 555 timer
chip and perhaps some waveform shaping or at least current limiting
components. I believe it puts out 9 volts or so open circuit, a bit less
than 50% duty cycle, and 15 Hertz (cycles per second).

It comes in a case about the size of a smallish pack of playing cards, with
two copper discs on one side and a slide switch and a small green LED on one
end. There is a good sized neodymium magnet inside the case, placed where it
will be near your skin when you wear it. There are also other features of a
metaphysical nature I will leave for those interested in such things to
research. wink

I started wearing it right away; placing it on top of a shoulder, slipping
it under my waistband, putting it in the bottom of my sock at night or at
the calf during the day. I've found that an ACE bandage works well to let
you wear it in other places, such as on your upper arms or on a thigh. I've
occasionally spent a few minutes applying it by hand to my face, head, or
neck. The top cut off of a sock will let you wear it on your calf when you'd
rather go barefoot.

So here is the first thing that fixed itself after I started using my
Zapper:

For as long as I've measured them, my urine and saliva pH have always been
low unless I was actively taking something like baking soda or potassium
citrate in order to raise them at least temporarily into a healthy range.
Only rarely would I ever see a reading that wasn't off the bottom of the pH
strip range at 5.0. This was even true first thing in the morning, let alone
after I'd eaten.

I recorded the following data:

October 28th:
   2:55 pm Urine pH between 5.0 and 5.5, shortly after lunch

October 29th:
   6:30 am morning pH: 5.5 urine, 6.0 saliva

October 30th:
10:30 am morning pH: 6.5 urine, 6.5 saliva

The next day urine was back down near 5.0, and has varied widely since,
depending on when and what I ate the previous day and how much acid waste
products are still in the bloodstream, but is most frequently in the area of
6.0, which I've NEVER SEEN unless forced by supplementation.

Saliva pH, which is more representative of your lymphatic fluid, has been
ROCK STEADY at 6.5 with an occasional blip to 7.0. 

This has gone on for over a month now, with no changes in diet or lifestyle
choices other than the wearing of the zapper.

What next? Blood pressure, I say! For at least the last decade I've
enjoyed mild to moderate hypertension, with systolic readings from
140-170 depending on where and when it was measured, and diastolic pressure
seldom below 80 and usually between 82 and 88, with occasional spikes over
90, just to rub my nose in it. sigh

Nothing I've ever done that's supposed to help lower blood pressure has
caused mine to budge.

On Tuesday, October 29th, I got a typical reading for sitting around at
home:

4:15 pm Blood pressure: 134/83 left, 145/85 right, after only a minute or
two of inactivity. Pulse around 80.

Two and a half weeks later, on Saturday, November 16th, I recorded:

6:20 pm Blood Pressure before dinner with daughter's cuff and
stethoscope:
   128/72 sitting at dining room table for a few minutes
6:45 pm 128/70, with our cuff, almost nodding off sitting on couch in living
room

Within the next week and a half I had appointments with a couple of
different doctors, and the readings in the doctor's office were both in the
130/70 range.

Purdy. Darned. Amazing!

I am just thrilled by this. Couldn't help mentioning it to those doctors.
They didn't have a whole lot to say, unsurprisingly. grin

So, while I continue to wear the Zapper every day nearly full time, awaiting
any other welcome effects that may choose to show up, it's already paid off
beyond my wildest expectations. I can at least look forward to BP and pH
being healthy without pills or powders.

I am just coming off an aggressive anti-inflammatory protocol (ending 2
weeks prior to the Zapper), so I may have been prepped to see these
benefits, but nothing I've done with diet or supplements has changed either
value in up to 10 years, so it's not some kind of delayed reaction to coming
off the supplements. The only active protocol I was doing was continuous
Zapping