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I believe it was hydrolyzed collagen that was used in the protocol. Have you found a new source of CMO? PT From: Malcolm s...@asis.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 11:49 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: Some updates from me... Hi Joe, So have I but it isn't the same as the stuff I've originally used. Beyond a century sells a powder which probably contains some/many of the constituents, but CMO has about 9 - guess you could call them analogs - with varying properties and various concentrations. The stuff I used successfully was in a (possibly) tallow-like base but with a fairly low melting point; I think the base was actually a reacting medium of/for the compound itself. At any rate it worked. I followed the original protocol using the CMO MSM and ??? (was it glucosamine? durn!, can't remember at this moment). Anyway, three doses a day for ten days, avoid fats for at least a couple of hours around taking the pills, and no alcohol for the entire ten days. - And no coffee either, but I cheated on that one. I'm afraid the stuff has acquired the mystique of a miracle substance, and so is of course sold shrouded in mystery, manufactured in proprietary fashion - even by Harry Diehl's family. So it goes. Malcolm On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 09:49 -0500, Joe Huard wrote: I have bought cetyl myristoleate from Beyond a Century, but it's not there anymore. Hmm? Joe On 03/12/2013 3:35 AM, Malcolm wrote: Hi Mike, What wonderful news! You are addressing a couple of the chronic problems I face; the blood pressure, and more recently pain in shoulders makes the top shelf in the fridge almost impossible for anything heavier than a half gallon of milk and now in my right hip makes walking chancy for 'ouch!' too. Thanks for sharing, I'll be checking out Don Croft's zapper and Brooks' protocol as well. In the past I've used cetyl myristoleate for the shoulders and it also relieved a stiff knee I've had since forever(that effect was completely unexpected), but CMO in the quantity and form I used has become unavailable - at least I couldn't find it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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My family and I have used CMO from here a number of times with very good results: http://cmo-usa.com/ Marshall On 12/4/2013 12:38 AM, Malcolm wrote: Thanks Joe, I'd given up on finding it again years ago but it looks like Jarrow has something possibly the same or similar. I'm gonna give it a try; I'll let you know what comes of it. M. On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 10:07 -0500, Joe Huard wrote: I found it listed here, http://www.swansonvitamins.com/q?kw=cetyl+myristoleate Joe On 03/12/2013 3:35 AM, Malcolm wrote: In the past I've used cetyl myristoleate for the shoulders and it also relieved a stiff knee I've had since forever(that effect was completely unexpected), but CMO in the quantity and form I used has become unavailable - at least I couldn't find it. Thanks again! Malcolm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3222/6390 - Release Date: 12/04/13
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Hi Mike, What wonderful news! You are addressing a couple of the chronic problems I face; the blood pressure, and more recently pain in shoulders makes the top shelf in the fridge almost impossible for anything heavier than a half gallon of milk and now in my right hip makes walking chancy for 'ouch!' too. Thanks for sharing, I'll be checking out Don Croft's zapper and Brooks' protocol as well. In the past I've used cetyl myristoleate for the shoulders and it also relieved a stiff knee I've had since forever(that effect was completely unexpected), but CMO in the quantity and form I used has become unavailable - at least I couldn't find it. Thanks again! Malcolm On Mon, 2013-12-02 at 18:38 -0500, M.G. Devour wrote: Hi again folks, In my last e-mail I talked about the success I've been having with Brooks Bradley's arthritis protocol and Beta-Sitosterol for prostate issues. Now for fun with a Zapper! I received my Don Croft Zapper on the 28th of October, at which point I'd been off nearly all supplements and protocols I'd been using for about two weeks. Don's design is a basic Clark-style zapper using, I presume, a 555 timer chip and perhaps some waveform shaping or at least current limiting components. I believe it puts out 9 volts or so open circuit, a bit less than 50% duty cycle, and 15 Hertz (cycles per second). It comes in a case about the size of a smallish pack of playing cards, with two copper discs on one side and a slide switch and a small green LED on one end. There is a good sized neodymium magnet inside the case, placed where it will be near your skin when you wear it. There are also other features of a metaphysical nature I will leave for those interested in such things to research. wink I started wearing it right away; placing it on top of a shoulder, slipping it under my waistband, putting it in the bottom of my sock at night or at the calf during the day. I've found that an ACE bandage works well to let you wear it in other places, such as on your upper arms or on a thigh. I've occasionally spent a few minutes applying it by hand to my face, head, or neck. The top cut off of a sock will let you wear it on your calf when you'd rather go barefoot. So here is the first thing that fixed itself after I started using my Zapper: For as long as I've measured them, my urine and saliva pH have always been low unless I was actively taking something like baking soda or potassium citrate in order to raise them at least temporarily into a healthy range. Only rarely would I ever see a reading that wasn't off the bottom of the pH strip range at 5.0. This was even true first thing in the morning, let alone after I'd eaten. I recorded the following data: October 28th: 2:55 pm Urine pH between 5.0 and 5.5, shortly after lunch October 29th: 6:30 am morning pH: 5.5 urine, 6.0 saliva October 30th: 10:30 am morning pH: 6.5 urine, 6.5 saliva The next day urine was back down near 5.0, and has varied widely since, depending on when and what I ate the previous day and how much acid waste products are still in the bloodstream, but is most frequently in the area of 6.0, which I've NEVER SEEN unless forced by supplementation. Saliva pH, which is more representative of your lymphatic fluid, has been ROCK STEADY at 6.5 with an occasional blip to 7.0. This has gone on for over a month now, with no changes in diet or lifestyle choices other than the wearing of the zapper. What next? Blood pressure, I say! For at least the last decade I've enjoyed mild to moderate hypertension, with systolic readings from 140-170 depending on where and when it was measured, and diastolic pressure seldom below 80 and usually between 82 and 88, with occasional spikes over 90, just to rub my nose in it. sigh Nothing I've ever done that's supposed to help lower blood pressure has caused mine to budge. On Tuesday, October 29th, I got a typical reading for sitting around at home: 4:15 pm Blood pressure: 134/83 left, 145/85 right, after only a minute or two of inactivity. Pulse around 80. Two and a half weeks later, on Saturday, November 16th, I recorded: 6:20 pm Blood Pressure before dinner with daughter's cuff and stethoscope: 128/72 sitting at dining room table for a few minutes 6:45 pm 128/70, with our cuff, almost nodding off sitting on couch in living room Within the next week and a half I had appointments with a couple of different doctors, and the readings in the doctor's office were both in the 130/70 range. Purdy. Darned. Amazing! I am just thrilled by this. Couldn't help mentioning it to those doctors. They didn't have a whole lot to say, unsurprisingly. grin So, while I continue to wear the Zapper every day nearly full time, awaiting any other welcome effects that may choose to show up, it's already paid off beyond my wildest expectations. I can at least look forward to BP and pH being healthy without
Re: CSRe: Some updates from me...
I have bought cetyl myristoleate from Beyond a Century, but it's not there anymore. Hmm? Joe On 03/12/2013 3:35 AM, Malcolm wrote: Hi Mike, What wonderful news! You are addressing a couple of the chronic problems I face; the blood pressure, and more recently pain in shoulders makes the top shelf in the fridge almost impossible for anything heavier than a half gallon of milk and now in my right hip makes walking chancy for 'ouch!' too. Thanks for sharing, I'll be checking out Don Croft's zapper and Brooks' protocol as well. In the past I've used cetyl myristoleate for the shoulders and it also relieved a stiff knee I've had since forever(that effect was completely unexpected), but CMO in the quantity and form I used has become unavailable - at least I couldn't find it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Some updates from me...
I found it listed here, http://www.swansonvitamins.com/q?kw=cetyl+myristoleate Joe On 03/12/2013 3:35 AM, Malcolm wrote: In the past I've used cetyl myristoleate for the shoulders and it also relieved a stiff knee I've had since forever(that effect was completely unexpected), but CMO in the quantity and form I used has become unavailable - at least I couldn't find it. Thanks again! Malcolm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I just spoke with Eric at BaC and they cannot get a reliable source any longer so people may want to check for other providers. PT From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 9:49 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: Some updates from me... I have bought cetyl myristoleate from Beyond a Century, but it's not there anymore. Hmm? Joe On 03/12/2013 3:35 AM, Malcolm wrote: Hi Mike, What wonderful news! You are addressing a couple of the chronic problems I face; the blood pressure, and more recently pain in shoulders makes the top shelf in the fridge almost impossible for anything heavier than a half gallon of milk and now in my right hip makes walking chancy for 'ouch!' too. Thanks for sharing, I'll be checking out Don Croft's zapper and Brooks' protocol as well. In the past I've used cetyl myristoleate for the shoulders and it also relieved a stiff knee I've had since forever(that effect was completely unexpected), but CMO in the quantity and form I used has become unavailable - at least I couldn't find it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I had reat success with Harry Diehl's CMO but he's retired Jane --- I found it listed here, http://www.swansonvitamins.com/q?kw=cetyl+myristoleate -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I thought it was the powder that was required??? PT From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:34 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: Some updates from me... I had reat success with Harry Diehl's CMO but he's retired Jane --- I found it listed here, http://www.swansonvitamins.com/q?kw=cetyl+myristoleate -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Joe, So have I but it isn't the same as the stuff I've originally used. Beyond a century sells a powder which probably contains some/many of the constituents, but CMO has about 9 - guess you could call them analogs - with varying properties and various concentrations. The stuff I used successfully was in a (possibly) tallow-like base but with a fairly low melting point; I think the base was actually a reacting medium of/for the compound itself. At any rate it worked. I followed the original protocol using the CMO MSM and ??? (was it glucosamine? durn!, can't remember at this moment). Anyway, three doses a day for ten days, avoid fats for at least a couple of hours around taking the pills, and no alcohol for the entire ten days. - And no coffee either, but I cheated on that one. I'm afraid the stuff has acquired the mystique of a miracle substance, and so is of course sold shrouded in mystery, manufactured in proprietary fashion - even by Harry Diehl's family. So it goes. Malcolm On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 09:49 -0500, Joe Huard wrote: I have bought cetyl myristoleate from Beyond a Century, but it's not there anymore. Hmm? Joe On 03/12/2013 3:35 AM, Malcolm wrote: Hi Mike, What wonderful news! You are addressing a couple of the chronic problems I face; the blood pressure, and more recently pain in shoulders makes the top shelf in the fridge almost impossible for anything heavier than a half gallon of milk and now in my right hip makes walking chancy for 'ouch!' too. Thanks for sharing, I'll be checking out Don Croft's zapper and Brooks' protocol as well. In the past I've used cetyl myristoleate for the shoulders and it also relieved a stiff knee I've had since forever(that effect was completely unexpected), but CMO in the quantity and form I used has become unavailable - at least I couldn't find it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Some updates from me...
Thanks Joe, I'd given up on finding it again years ago but it looks like Jarrow has something possibly the same or similar. I'm gonna give it a try; I'll let you know what comes of it. M. On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 10:07 -0500, Joe Huard wrote: I found it listed here, http://www.swansonvitamins.com/q?kw=cetyl+myristoleate Joe On 03/12/2013 3:35 AM, Malcolm wrote: In the past I've used cetyl myristoleate for the shoulders and it also relieved a stiff knee I've had since forever(that effect was completely unexpected), but CMO in the quantity and form I used has become unavailable - at least I couldn't find it. Thanks again! Malcolm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I had no help from the powder from beyond a century, see my reply to Joe. Take care, M. On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 10:40 -0800, PT Ferrance wrote: I thought it was the powder that was required??? PT __ From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:34 AM Subject: Re: CSRe: Some updates from me... I had reat success with Harry Diehl's CMO but he's retired Jane --- I found it listed here, http://www.swansonvitamins.com/q?kw=cetyl +myristoleate -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Some updates from me...
Hi again folks, In my last e-mail I talked about the success I've been having with Brooks Bradley's arthritis protocol and Beta-Sitosterol for prostate issues. Now for fun with a Zapper! I received my Don Croft Zapper on the 28th of October, at which point I'd been off nearly all supplements and protocols I'd been using for about two weeks. Don's design is a basic Clark-style zapper using, I presume, a 555 timer chip and perhaps some waveform shaping or at least current limiting components. I believe it puts out 9 volts or so open circuit, a bit less than 50% duty cycle, and 15 Hertz (cycles per second). It comes in a case about the size of a smallish pack of playing cards, with two copper discs on one side and a slide switch and a small green LED on one end. There is a good sized neodymium magnet inside the case, placed where it will be near your skin when you wear it. There are also other features of a metaphysical nature I will leave for those interested in such things to research. wink I started wearing it right away; placing it on top of a shoulder, slipping it under my waistband, putting it in the bottom of my sock at night or at the calf during the day. I've found that an ACE bandage works well to let you wear it in other places, such as on your upper arms or on a thigh. I've occasionally spent a few minutes applying it by hand to my face, head, or neck. The top cut off of a sock will let you wear it on your calf when you'd rather go barefoot. So here is the first thing that fixed itself after I started using my Zapper: For as long as I've measured them, my urine and saliva pH have always been low unless I was actively taking something like baking soda or potassium citrate in order to raise them at least temporarily into a healthy range. Only rarely would I ever see a reading that wasn't off the bottom of the pH strip range at 5.0. This was even true first thing in the morning, let alone after I'd eaten. I recorded the following data: October 28th: 2:55 pm Urine pH between 5.0 and 5.5, shortly after lunch October 29th: 6:30 am morning pH: 5.5 urine, 6.0 saliva October 30th: 10:30 am morning pH: 6.5 urine, 6.5 saliva The next day urine was back down near 5.0, and has varied widely since, depending on when and what I ate the previous day and how much acid waste products are still in the bloodstream, but is most frequently in the area of 6.0, which I've NEVER SEEN unless forced by supplementation. Saliva pH, which is more representative of your lymphatic fluid, has been ROCK STEADY at 6.5 with an occasional blip to 7.0. This has gone on for over a month now, with no changes in diet or lifestyle choices other than the wearing of the zapper. What next? Blood pressure, I say! For at least the last decade I've enjoyed mild to moderate hypertension, with systolic readings from 140-170 depending on where and when it was measured, and diastolic pressure seldom below 80 and usually between 82 and 88, with occasional spikes over 90, just to rub my nose in it. sigh Nothing I've ever done that's supposed to help lower blood pressure has caused mine to budge. On Tuesday, October 29th, I got a typical reading for sitting around at home: 4:15 pm Blood pressure: 134/83 left, 145/85 right, after only a minute or two of inactivity. Pulse around 80. Two and a half weeks later, on Saturday, November 16th, I recorded: 6:20 pm Blood Pressure before dinner with daughter's cuff and stethoscope: 128/72 sitting at dining room table for a few minutes 6:45 pm 128/70, with our cuff, almost nodding off sitting on couch in living room Within the next week and a half I had appointments with a couple of different doctors, and the readings in the doctor's office were both in the 130/70 range. Purdy. Darned. Amazing! I am just thrilled by this. Couldn't help mentioning it to those doctors. They didn't have a whole lot to say, unsurprisingly. grin So, while I continue to wear the Zapper every day nearly full time, awaiting any other welcome effects that may choose to show up, it's already paid off beyond my wildest expectations. I can at least look forward to BP and pH being healthy without pills or powders. I am just coming off an aggressive anti-inflammatory protocol (ending 2 weeks prior to the Zapper), so I may have been prepped to see these benefits, but nothing I've done with diet or supplements has changed either value in up to 10 years, so it's not some kind of delayed reaction to coming off the supplements. The only active protocol I was doing was continuous Zapping. Call it placebo effect or spontaneous remission if you like; I'm calling it a causal link. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. I'll have more to share as things move along, but that's the good stuff for now. Be well! Mike D. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe:
RE: CSRe: Some updates from me...
Mike have you ruled out Chronic Lyme disease or one of its co-infections? Your symptoms sound very similar to ones I hear frequently on my lyme rife list. Scott Adams I bet you know someone who has Chronic Lyme and doesn't realize it yet! www.lyme-resource.com -Original Message- From: M.G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 5:39 PM To: silver-list Subject: CSRe: Some updates from me... Hi again folks, In my last e-mail I talked about the success I've been having with Brooks Bradley's arthritis protocol and Beta-Sitosterol for prostate issues. Now for fun with a Zapper! I received my Don Croft Zapper on the 28th of October, at which point I'd been off nearly all supplements and protocols I'd been using for about two weeks. Don's design is a basic Clark-style zapper using, I presume, a 555 timer chip and perhaps some waveform shaping or at least current limiting components. I believe it puts out 9 volts or so open circuit, a bit less than 50% duty cycle, and 15 Hertz (cycles per second). It comes in a case about the size of a smallish pack of playing cards, with two copper discs on one side and a slide switch and a small green LED on one end. There is a good sized neodymium magnet inside the case, placed where it will be near your skin when you wear it. There are also other features of a metaphysical nature I will leave for those interested in such things to research. wink I started wearing it right away; placing it on top of a shoulder, slipping it under my waistband, putting it in the bottom of my sock at night or at the calf during the day. I've found that an ACE bandage works well to let you wear it in other places, such as on your upper arms or on a thigh. I've occasionally spent a few minutes applying it by hand to my face, head, or neck. The top cut off of a sock will let you wear it on your calf when you'd rather go barefoot. So here is the first thing that fixed itself after I started using my Zapper: For as long as I've measured them, my urine and saliva pH have always been low unless I was actively taking something like baking soda or potassium citrate in order to raise them at least temporarily into a healthy range. Only rarely would I ever see a reading that wasn't off the bottom of the pH strip range at 5.0. This was even true first thing in the morning, let alone after I'd eaten. I recorded the following data: October 28th: 2:55 pm Urine pH between 5.0 and 5.5, shortly after lunch October 29th: 6:30 am morning pH: 5.5 urine, 6.0 saliva October 30th: 10:30 am morning pH: 6.5 urine, 6.5 saliva The next day urine was back down near 5.0, and has varied widely since, depending on when and what I ate the previous day and how much acid waste products are still in the bloodstream, but is most frequently in the area of 6.0, which I've NEVER SEEN unless forced by supplementation. Saliva pH, which is more representative of your lymphatic fluid, has been ROCK STEADY at 6.5 with an occasional blip to 7.0. This has gone on for over a month now, with no changes in diet or lifestyle choices other than the wearing of the zapper. What next? Blood pressure, I say! For at least the last decade I've enjoyed mild to moderate hypertension, with systolic readings from 140-170 depending on where and when it was measured, and diastolic pressure seldom below 80 and usually between 82 and 88, with occasional spikes over 90, just to rub my nose in it. sigh Nothing I've ever done that's supposed to help lower blood pressure has caused mine to budge. On Tuesday, October 29th, I got a typical reading for sitting around at home: 4:15 pm Blood pressure: 134/83 left, 145/85 right, after only a minute or two of inactivity. Pulse around 80. Two and a half weeks later, on Saturday, November 16th, I recorded: 6:20 pm Blood Pressure before dinner with daughter's cuff and stethoscope: 128/72 sitting at dining room table for a few minutes 6:45 pm 128/70, with our cuff, almost nodding off sitting on couch in living room Within the next week and a half I had appointments with a couple of different doctors, and the readings in the doctor's office were both in the 130/70 range. Purdy. Darned. Amazing! I am just thrilled by this. Couldn't help mentioning it to those doctors. They didn't have a whole lot to say, unsurprisingly. grin So, while I continue to wear the Zapper every day nearly full time, awaiting any other welcome effects that may choose to show up, it's already paid off beyond my wildest expectations. I can at least look forward to BP and pH being healthy without pills or powders. I am just coming off an aggressive anti-inflammatory protocol (ending 2 weeks prior to the Zapper), so I may have been prepped to see these benefits, but nothing I've done with diet or supplements has changed either value in up to 10 years, so it's not some kind of delayed reaction to coming off the supplements. The only active protocol I was doing was continuous Zapping