Re: CS>nutra silver?

2008-08-16 Thread Ode Coyote


I haven't done reseach on the gel but people say it does work. [I don't 
make that stuff up ]...and the formula came from someone who used it 
sucessfully for years on bed sores and such.


 From my limited applications tried, I'll generally agree and also never 
claimed it would work, just that you can make it a lot cheaper than you can 
buy it already made and have control over what's in it.


I have a few theories why it does work [for those who say it does] when 
maybe it might not due to a possible lack of  free silver ions and being a 
semi solid that encapsulates particles.


 The gel itself absorbs liquids like mad.
As the surface dries, it wants to replace those liquids and there is one 
place to replace them from.

"Drawing poultice"
..and whatever alive that gets drawn out, dies.

It is also quite water soluble. " Particulate transport" at the liquid 
interface.
 Silver in any form will kill germs, the more surface area [the smaller] , 
the better, the purer the silver the better.

 There is nothing more pure or smaller than a single ion.

Since it does contain water, silver ions may survive in the gel.
Even if they form molecular compounds with impurities, there may be some 
sort of ion exchange resin effect at work in the presence of other organic 
compounds.


Mixing some ground Aluminum into the gel just might make it Very active and 
loaded with a continuous  generation of  Silver ions..like a wet Curad 
Silver bandaid.

Shelf life?  questionable.

Ode



Perhaps Ode has some comment on his gel, whether it's primarily an ionic
or a covalent sort of goop; I've read it works, anyhow.

Take care,  M.

On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 09:04 -0500, Clayton Family wrote:
> I had not heard of it before, but they have a great website, with lots
> ofinteresting info. I called them up and talked to a man who was very
> helpful, in a way, what with trade secrets to protect and all. He said
> it is the "next generation" colloidial silver, and it is 3600 ppm, not
> salts, or ions. I looked on the lab reports site and could not find
> NutraSilver.  But if it is not salts or ions, it would have to be
> protein, wouldn't it?
>
> I would not take this product, since I do not know what it is made
> from, I would rather make my own.
>
> kathryn
>
> On Aug 15, 2008, at 4:01 AM,  wrote:
>
> > Hi ALL,
> >
> > I have some questions ..
> >
> > Do  you know about NutraSilver?
> >
> > Who is using this ,I like to know more about this ailver and more
> > testimonials...can we make it at home...or is this to difficult?
> >
> > Trudy
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: CS>nutra silver?

2008-08-15 Thread Malcolm
Hi Kathryn, I looked at NutraSilver's website; down at the very bottom
it says:  "...These statements have not been ... by the FDA ..." which,
the usual standard disclaimers aside, makes me wonder why all the hype
about FDA approved labs, NOT - you'll notice, - product.  My general
purpose BS detector overheats at this sort of obfuscation.

Work in Russia (oops, USSR then) examined finely divided silver in
suspensions, and I believe the conclusion was that it wasn't quite so
wonderful.  OTOH many water filters have used silver plated onto-into
charcoal with good antibacterial effects.  It would seem there's both a
contact effect with 'molecular' silver and possibly another effect with
the ionic solution.  Silverlon and other silver containing wound
dressings purportedly work by ion transport into the affected tissues.
Much of Dr. Becker's work was with ionic silver produced
electrolytically in-situ, particularly (eewww!) in bone and deep tissue
regeneration.

Perhaps Ode has some comment on his gel, whether it's primarily an ionic
or a covalent sort of goop; I've read it works, anyhow.

Take care,  M.

On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 09:04 -0500, Clayton Family wrote:
> I had not heard of it before, but they have a great website, with lots 
> ofinteresting info. I called them up and talked to a man who was very 
> helpful, in a way, what with trade secrets to protect and all. He said 
> it is the "next generation" colloidial silver, and it is 3600 ppm, not 
> salts, or ions. I looked on the lab reports site and could not find 
> NutraSilver.  But if it is not salts or ions, it would have to be 
> protein, wouldn't it?
> 
> I would not take this product, since I do not know what it is made 
> from, I would rather make my own.
> 
> kathryn
> 
> On Aug 15, 2008, at 4:01 AM,  wrote:
> 
> > Hi ALL,
> >
> > I have some questions ..
> >
> > Do  you know about NutraSilver?
> >
> > Who is using this ,I like to know more about this ailver and more 
> > testimonials...can we make it at home...or is this to difficult?
> >
> > Trudy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: CS>nutra silver?

2008-08-15 Thread Clayton Family
I had not heard of it before, but they have a great website, with lots 
ofinteresting info. I called them up and talked to a man who was very 
helpful, in a way, what with trade secrets to protect and all. He said 
it is the "next generation" colloidial silver, and it is 3600 ppm, not 
salts, or ions. I looked on the lab reports site and could not find 
NutraSilver.  But if it is not salts or ions, it would have to be 
protein, wouldn't it?


I would not take this product, since I do not know what it is made 
from, I would rather make my own.


kathryn

On Aug 15, 2008, at 4:01 AM,  wrote:


Hi ALL,

I have some questions ..

Do  you know about NutraSilver?

Who is using this ,I like to know more about this ailver and more 
testimonials...can we make it at home...or is this to difficult?


Trudy





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