Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers

[Tony Graziano]

You can simulate this inside but I think pptp is a poor choice in that the
packets use a different IP address to be native to the network.

IPSEC AND OPENVPN are more suited to point to point and can properly tested
with the same network schema before rolling the systems out and over a vpn.

Pptp is really REALLY a poor choice here. You might not understand but the
routing and broadcast of how pptp works in a firewall advertises and routes
thins differently. It might be fine for some remote user but as a site to
site con it is somewhat crippling (IMO).
On Apr 14, 2012 11:42 AM, "Todd Hodgen"  wrote:

> First mention of a Tunnel between the servers.   Again, I’d recommend you
> get this working in a lab first, without a tunnel.  Then add a tunnel
> between servers and see if it breaks things.  You will likely see what is
> breaking it very quickly, and without guessing.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org [mailto:
> sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] *On Behalf Of *Nitin Mirchandani
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 14, 2012 7:46 AM
> *To:* sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
> *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers***
> *
>
> ** **
>
> The only thing that can raise issue is that the sites are connected via
> PPTP VPN.
> Latency is sub 10ms.
>
> Will MS PPTP(the BEST implemetation so far - as it is transparent to
> all protocols) be an issue?
>
> We had issues with OpenVPn which is half ass implemetation.
>
> Does the tunnel (which sipx uses) can have issues with PPTP? I can see
> that sometime later the sending profile fails.
>
> Rgds
> Nitin
>  
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> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 03:28:51 -0400
> From: mpic...@ezuce.com
> To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers
>
> have many customers running with 3-5 servers...
>
> ** **
>
> your statement is incorrect.  i would say that your installation is
> unstable with more than 2 servers.
>
> ** **
>
> mike
>
> On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:14 AM, Nitin Mirchandani <
> nitin_mirchand...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Of course I need to send profiles - But when its done, it starts failing
> in different ways.
> Each time error is different.
>
> If I switch off one server(redundant), and send profiels, it starts
> working again.
>
> Since its failing in different ways, and dns is correct (i have rechecked
> hundreds of times), I think sipx is unstable on 3 servers.
>  
> --
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> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:44:09 -0400
> From: mpic...@ezuce.com
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> To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers
>
> you always need to send profiles after the server pulls down it's
> configuration stuff...
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:27 AM, George Niculae  wrote:*
> ***
>
> 2012/4/13 Nitin Mirchandani 
>
> Hello
> Installed it 5 or 6 time.
> Now, the third server has come with "service disabled"
>
> Maybe - 4.4 doesnot support more than 2 servers?
>
> ** **
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> Send profiles to that particular server
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Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers

[Todd Hodgen]

First mention of a Tunnel between the servers.   Again, I'd recommend you
get this working in a lab first, without a tunnel.  Then add a tunnel
between servers and see if it breaks things.  You will likely see what is
breaking it very quickly, and without guessing.

 

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[mailto:sipx-users-boun...@list.sipfoundry.org] On Behalf Of Nitin
Mirchandani
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 7:46 AM
To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers

 

The only thing that can raise issue is that the sites are connected via PPTP
VPN.
Latency is sub 10ms.
 
Will MS PPTP(the BEST implemetation so far - as it is transparent to all
protocols) be an issue?
 
We had issues with OpenVPn which is half ass implemetation.
 
Does the tunnel (which sipx uses) can have issues with PPTP? I can see that
sometime later the sending profile fails.
 
Rgds
Nitin
 

  _  

Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 03:28:51 -0400
From: mpic...@ezuce.com
To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers

have many customers running with 3-5 servers...

 

your statement is incorrect.  i would say that your installation is unstable
with more than 2 servers.

 

mike

On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:14 AM, Nitin Mirchandani
 wrote:

Of course I need to send profiles - But when its done, it starts failing in
different ways.
Each time error is different.
 
If I switch off one server(redundant), and send profiels, it starts working
again.
 
Since its failing in different ways, and dns is correct (i have rechecked
hundreds of times), I think sipx is unstable on 3 servers.
 

  _  

Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:44:09 -0400
From: mpic...@ezuce.com


To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers

you always need to send profiles after the server pulls down it's
configuration stuff...

On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:27 AM, George Niculae  wrote:

2012/4/13 Nitin Mirchandani 

Hello 
Installed it 5 or 6 time.
Now, the third server has come with "service disabled"
 
Maybe - 4.4 doesnot support more than 2 servers?

 

 

Send profiles to that particular server

 

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Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers

[Tony Graziano]

I would suspect ipsec would work well, we use it all the time for site to
site vpn's.
On Apr 14, 2012 10:46 AM, "Nitin Mirchandani" 
wrote:

>  The only thing that can raise issue is that the sites are connected via
> PPTP VPN.
> Latency is sub 10ms.
>
> Will MS PPTP(the BEST implemetation so far - as it is transparent to
> all protocols) be an issue?
>
> We had issues with OpenVPn which is half ass implemetation.
>
> Does the tunnel (which sipx uses) can have issues with PPTP? I can see
> that sometime later the sending profile fails.
>
> Rgds
> Nitin
>
> --
> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 03:28:51 -0400
> From: mpic...@ezuce.com
> To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers
>
> have many customers running with 3-5 servers...
>
> your statement is incorrect.  i would say that your installation is
> unstable with more than 2 servers.
>
> mike
>
> On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:14 AM, Nitin Mirchandani <
> nitin_mirchand...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Of course I need to send profiles - But when its done, it starts failing
> in different ways.
> Each time error is different.
>
> If I switch off one server(redundant), and send profiels, it starts
> working again.
>
> Since its failing in different ways, and dns is correct (i have rechecked
> hundreds of times), I think sipx is unstable on 3 servers.
>
> --
> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:44:09 -0400
> From: mpic...@ezuce.com
>
> To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers
>
> you always need to send profiles after the server pulls down it's
> configuration stuff...
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:27 AM, George Niculae  wrote:
>
> 2012/4/13 Nitin Mirchandani 
>
>  Hello
> Installed it 5 or 6 time.
> Now, the third server has come with "service disabled"
>
> Maybe - 4.4 doesnot support more than 2 servers?
>
>
> Send profiles to that particular server
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Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers

[Nitin Mirchandani]

The only thing that can raise issue is that the sites are connected via PPTP 
VPN.Latency is sub 10ms. Will MS PPTP(the BEST implemetation so far - as it is 
transparent to all protocols) be an issue? We had issues with OpenVPn which is 
half ass implemetation. Does the tunnel (which sipx uses) can have issues with 
PPTP? I can see that sometime later the sending profile fails. RgdsNitin
 Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 03:28:51 -0400
From: mpic...@ezuce.com
To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers

have many customers running with 3-5 servers...
your statement is incorrect.  i would say that your installation is unstable 
with more than 2 servers.
mike


On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:14 AM, Nitin Mirchandani 
 wrote:





Of course I need to send profiles - But when its done, it starts failing in 
different ways.
Each time error is different.
 
If I switch off one server(redundant), and send profiels, it starts working 
again.
 

Since its failing in different ways, and dns is correct (i have rechecked 
hundreds of times), I think sipx is unstable on 3 servers.
 
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:44:09 -0400
From: mpic...@ezuce.com

To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers

you always need to send profiles after the server pulls down it's configuration 
stuff...


On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:27 AM, George Niculae  wrote:

2012/4/13 Nitin Mirchandani 







Hello 
Installed it 5 or 6 time.
Now, the third server has come with "service disabled"
 
Maybe - 4.4 doesnot support more than 2 servers?





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Re: [sipx-users] Sending faxes

[m...@grounded.net]

> Pointedly they dont have a way to use t38modem in a way that works.
> Never have thats why noone uses hylafax in t38 deployments. You still
> have to use hardware between hylafax and your t.38 switch. So if you
> put up a separate hylafax box us an ATA and be done with it. It cant
> really integrate.

I tried getting the t.38 virtual modems to work a while back but ran out of 
time and didn't get it to work. I've seen others in the hylafax list talking 
about using those but haven't paid that much attention. Maybe they work well 
now?

As for the ATA, that's how we've been doing it for those who need a fax 
interface but some prefer having both a physical fax and a virtual fax such as 
the avantfax gui. Some just want the virtual gui only. 

If sipx had outgoing, the hylafax/avantfax setup would instantly get removed 
solving a big headache. 

Where do I vote and can I vote multiple times? :)

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Re: [sipx-users] Sending faxes

[Gerald Drouillard]

On 4/13/2012 8:20 PM, m...@grounded.net wrote:
> I believe I saw a thread a while back where someone was asking about sending 
> faxes. Some searching shows that some have asked but that there are no plans.
>
> Is this still the case or are others interested in this? Even a shared 
> outgoing account as a 'group' would be so very welcome and would instantly 
> eliminate our having to use additional hylafax/avantfax servers just for this 
> function. It would be way nicer to be able to tell potential customers that 
> everything can be done from the one system.
>
>
We recently had an install that was a heavy hylafax user with usb 
modems.   We are now using sipx for receiving faxes and hylafax for sending.

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Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers

[Michael Picher]

have many customers running with 3-5 servers...

your statement is incorrect.  i would say that your installation is
unstable with more than 2 servers.

mike

On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:14 AM, Nitin Mirchandani <
nitin_mirchand...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Of course I need to send profiles - But when its done, it starts failing
> in different ways.
> Each time error is different.
>
> If I switch off one server(redundant), and send profiels, it starts
> working again.
>
> Since its failing in different ways, and dns is correct (i have rechecked
> hundreds of times), I think sipx is unstable on 3 servers.
>
> --
> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:44:09 -0400
> From: mpic...@ezuce.com
>
> To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers
>
> you always need to send profiles after the server pulls down it's
> configuration stuff...
>
> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:27 AM, George Niculae  wrote:
>
> 2012/4/13 Nitin Mirchandani 
>
>  Hello
> Installed it 5 or 6 time.
> Now, the third server has come with "service disabled"
>
> Maybe - 4.4 doesnot support more than 2 servers?
>
>
> Send profiles to that particular server
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Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers

[Todd Hodgen]

Have you tried setting this up in a lab, with your three servers, and
sipXecs as the DNS to see how they play together.  Get your lab successfully
built, and apply what you learn from that configuration to a network with
another DNS server setup.

 

 

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Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 12:14 AM
To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers

 

Of course I need to send profiles - But when its done, it starts failing in
different ways.
Each time error is different.
 
If I switch off one server(redundant), and send profiels, it starts working
again.
 
Since its failing in different ways, and dns is correct (i have rechecked
hundreds of times), I think sipx is unstable on 3 servers.
 

  _  

Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:44:09 -0400
From: mpic...@ezuce.com
To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers

you always need to send profiles after the server pulls down it's
configuration stuff...

On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:27 AM, George Niculae  wrote:

2012/4/13 Nitin Mirchandani 

Hello 
Installed it 5 or 6 time.
Now, the third server has come with "service disabled"
 
Maybe - 4.4 doesnot support more than 2 servers?

 

 

Send profiles to that particular server

 

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Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers

[Todd Hodgen]

Doubtful, there are customers running with more than 3 servers.

 

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Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 12:14 AM
To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers

 

Of course I need to send profiles - But when its done, it starts failing in
different ways.
Each time error is different.
 
If I switch off one server(redundant), and send profiels, it starts working
again.
 
Since its failing in different ways, and dns is correct (i have rechecked
hundreds of times), I think sipx is unstable on 3 servers.
 

  _  

Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:44:09 -0400
From: mpic...@ezuce.com
To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers

you always need to send profiles after the server pulls down it's
configuration stuff...

On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:27 AM, George Niculae  wrote:

2012/4/13 Nitin Mirchandani 

Hello 
Installed it 5 or 6 time.
Now, the third server has come with "service disabled"
 
Maybe - 4.4 doesnot support more than 2 servers?

 

 

Send profiles to that particular server

 

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Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers

[Nitin Mirchandani]

Of course I need to send profiles - But when its done, it starts failing in 
different ways.Each time error is different. If I switch off one 
server(redundant), and send profiels, it starts working again. Since its 
failing in different ways, and dns is correct (i have rechecked hundreds of 
times), I think sipx is unstable on 3 servers.
 Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:44:09 -0400
From: mpic...@ezuce.com
To: sipx-users@list.sipfoundry.org
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] HA setup with more than 2 redundant servers

you always need to send profiles after the server pulls down it's configuration 
stuff...

On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:27 AM, George Niculae  wrote:

2012/4/13 Nitin Mirchandani 






Hello 
Installed it 5 or 6 time.
Now, the third server has come with "service disabled"
 
Maybe - 4.4 doesnot support more than 2 servers?




Send profiles to that particular server
George 


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