[SLUG] OpenRG v's m0n0wall

2008-04-17 Thread Kyle

Hi folks,

can someone offer an educated opinion on the benefits/disadvantages of 
OpenRG's firewall over m0n0wall and/or vice versa pls.


I have the choice of either sticking with a Linksys RV082 (which 
apparently runs OpenRG) or moving to a m0n0 based firewall.


I know m0n0 is highly regarded, but have yet to find any community 
opinions on OpenRG (Only commercial reviews which focus on the whole as 
opposed to the firewall).


Does someone here have any experience pls?
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[SLUG] Thanks Re: Disk Full Message

2008-04-17 Thread bill
Thanks to all that provided suggestions and advice. I learned quite a 
lot from your comments.


Problem however was due to errant line in /etc/mtab - once line was 
removed, there was no longer a problem - its apparently a know problem 
wit Ubuntu.


Thanks again

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Re: [SLUG] Thanks Re: Disk Full Message

2008-04-17 Thread Martin Visser
Bill,

No worries. Any chance of letting the list know what the errant line
was? It might help others for next time

Martin

On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 4:32 PM, bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks to all that provided suggestions and advice. I learned quite a lot
 from your comments.

  Problem however was due to errant line in /etc/mtab - once line was
 removed, there was no longer a problem - its apparently a know problem wit
 Ubuntu.

  Thanks again

  Bill
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Re: [SLUG] Manipulating DNS

2008-04-17 Thread John Clarke
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 09:05:33 +0545, Howard Lowndes wrote:

Howard,

 I don't want to start fiddling with dhclient, nor with /etc/resolv.conf, 
 but I would like to get at least some of the internal zone presented to 

If you don't want to use resolvconf to sort it out (and I'm not
recommending you do, just noting it as an option), here are a
couple of solutions I've used with openvpn:

If you only want localhost to be able to resolve the internal zone,
do a zone transfer from the remote name server after the vpn comes up
and populate /etc/hosts.   When the vpn goes down (or the machine is
rebooted), remove the extra hostnames from /etc/hosts.

If you want other hosts on the LAN to see the internal zone, have a
second bind config file (with /etc/bind9/named.conf.local as a symlink
to the one you're actually using) with the appropriate config to use
the remote servers, then switch the symlink and reload bind when the
vpn comes up.  This requires that you either run the vpn client on
the same host as the local name server, or you have some way to signal
to the name server that the vpn is up/down.


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[SLUG] Bi-directional ssh

2008-04-17 Thread Richard Heycock
Is it possible to use ssh as a type of dynamic vpn so that when I
connect to a remote machine the remote machine has access to the
initiating machine?

rgh

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Re: [SLUG] Bi-directional ssh

2008-04-17 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Richard Heycock

 Is it possible to use ssh as a type of dynamic vpn so that when I connect
 to a remote machine the remote machine has access to the initiating
 machine?

See the man page section for the -R option to map a remote port to a local
port. It complements the -L option, which does the opposite. I don't believe
there's a reverse analogue to the -D option though (SOCKS proxy through the
remote end), so you're stuck with port mapping.

You can also do sick stuff like ppp-over-ssh.

Or sensible stuff like OpenVPN.

:-)

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Re: [SLUG] Bi-directional ssh

2008-04-17 Thread jam

On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 19:17 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is it possible to use ssh as a type of dynamic vpn so that
 when I
 connect to a remote machine the remote machine has access to
 the
 initiating machine?

From your machine:

ssh -L 1200:localhost:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ssh -p 1200 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

usually useful in this context
ssh -L 1200:another.local.machine:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

From other machine:

ssh -R 1200:localhost:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and from your machine
ssh -p 1200 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To stop localhost bitching frome ssh
.ssh/config
Host localhost
StrictHostKeyChecking no

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Re: [SLUG] Bi-directional ssh

2008-04-17 Thread Richard Heycock
Excerpts from Jeff Waugh's message of Thu Apr 17 19:58:57 +1000 2008:
 quote who=Richard Heycock
 
  Is it possible to use ssh as a type of dynamic vpn so that when I connect
  to a remote machine the remote machine has access to the initiating
  machine?
 
 See the man page section for the -R option to map a remote port to a local
 port. It complements the -L option, which does the opposite. I don't believe
 there's a reverse analogue to the -D option though (SOCKS proxy through the
 remote end), so you're stuck with port mapping.
 
 You can also do sick stuff like ppp-over-ssh.
 
 Or sensible stuff like OpenVPN.

I was hoping to avoid using OpenVPN I use that in lots of places as it
is and given that I only need this for deployment it seemed like overkill.

rgh


 :-)
 
 - Jeff
 

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[SLUG] Re: looking for a command to composite sequentially numbered files

2008-04-17 Thread elliott-brennan

Hi Glenn,

Tried that just now...nope.

I'm clueless as to what the problem is. I'm running:

Kubuntu (Dapper) 6.06
imagemagick 6.2.4.5-0.6ubuntu0

I've no idea why this is not working.

Regards,

Patrick




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G'Day.  Removing the second echo  might help.

Glenn


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Re: [SLUG] Can I be comfortable with this log message

2008-04-17 Thread Rick Phillips

On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 14:01 +1000, Michael Chesterton wrote:
 On 17/04/2008, at 6:09 AM, Rick Phillips wrote:
 
   1 possible successful probes
  /long_path_to_file/../../../etc/passwd HTTP Response 200
 
  With the environment (described above) in place, should I be  
  worried or
  should I be confident that I have taken every precaution I can take?
 
 
 I would be a little concerned if they can download /etc/passwd, they  
 could
 download a more sensitive file.  Have you tried to download passwd  
 yourself?
 does it actually work?
 
 What's your DocumentRoot, out of curiosity?
 
Thanks to all who have replied and reinforced my confidence in what I
have been doing.

I don't have much gold but I have been through the pain of having my
server hacked twice in quick succession some years ago when I was wetter
behind the ears.  Those events alone caused me to be somewhat paranoid.
The server in question is a small commercial server but I maintain
several others following the same rules I have outlined in my original
email.  It is not convenient for me to have to restore from any backups
as some sites are inconeniently too far away.

I do like one respondent said, keep mirror a image on a spare disk and
when I was hacked that got me up again in minutes but this is not always
convenient, especially when sites and email accounts change frequently.

I think the exclusion of all connectivity except for a single IP address
is my greatest protection along with frequently changing complex
passwords and a non standard port.

I was looking also to see if anyone had something to offer that I had
not thought of but I am resting much easier now.

Thanks again to all who responded.

Rick

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Re: [SLUG] Thanks Re: Disk Full Message

2008-04-17 Thread bill

Martin Visser wrote:

Hi Martin,

Ooops - I usually put the solution into my posts - forgot this time.

Errant line was overflow /tmp tmpfs rw,size=1048576,mode=1777 0 0

Info obtained from Ubuntu Forums  
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=677185page=2


Bill



Bill,

No worries. Any chance of letting the list know what the errant line
was? It might help others for next time

Martin
  


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[SLUG] Still looking for speakers

2008-04-17 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
Hello SLUGgers!

We are still in need of a speaker for our In-Depth slot at the next SLUG 
meeting on May 2. I've copied the announcement below.

For more information on speaking at SLUG, please see these resources:
  * http://www.slug.org.au/cfp.html
  * http://www.slug.org.au/meetings/guide.html


Thanks!
Sridhar


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Subject: SLUG Monthly Meeting, Friday 2 May

Our last announcement contained an error in the subject line. Please accept 
our apologies.


== April SLUG Monthly Meeting ==

You can read the full version of this announcement on the Web at 
http://www.slug.org.au/node/97


When:
   18.30 - 20.30, Friday, 2 May, 2008

NOTE: Due to a clash with ANZAC Day, the April SLUG meeting has been deferred 
by one week to 2 May. The official May meeting will not be affected.

We start at 18:30 but we ask that people arrive 15 minutes early so we can all 
get into the building and start on time. Please do not arrive before 18:00, 
as it may hinder business activities for our host!

Appropriate signage and directions will be posted on the building.


Where:
   Atlassian[0], 173-185 Sussex Street, Sydney
   (corner of Sussex and Market Street)

Entry is via the rear on Slip Street. There are stairs going down along the 
outside of building from Sussex St to near the entrance. A map of the area 
and directions can be found here[1].


= Talks =

General Talk:
  Matthew Palmer - Deploying and Managing large scale Linux deployments

In-Depth Talk:
  TBA

We will release another announcement after we confirm our speakers.


= Meeting Schedule =

See here[2] for an explanation of the segments.

* 18:15 : Open Doors
* 18:30 : Announcements, News, Introductions
* 18:45 : General Talk (see above)
* 19:30 : Intermission
* 19:45 : Split into two groups for
* In-depth Talk (see above)
* SLUGlets: Linux QA and other miscellany
* 20:30 : Dinner

Dinner is at Golden Harbour Restaurant, in Chinatown. We will be having the 
$24 Banquet[3], but we will be collecting $25 per head for ease of accounting 
and to cover a tip. We will be taking numbers during the break to confirm the 
reservation size. If you have any particular dietary requirements (e.g. 
vegetarian), or if you would prefer to order separately, let us know 
beforehand. Dinner is a great way to socialise and learn in a relaxed 
atmosphere :)

We hope to see you there!


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Re: [SLUG] Manipulating DNS

2008-04-17 Thread Amos Shapira
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 4:56 PM, John Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 09:05:33 +0545, Howard Lowndes wrote:

  Howard,

   I don't want to start fiddling with dhclient, nor with /etc/resolv.conf,
   but I would like to get at least some of the internal zone presented to

  If you don't want to use resolvconf to sort it out (and I'm not
  recommending you do, just noting it as an option), here are a
  couple of solutions I've used with openvpn:

  If you only want localhost to be able to resolve the internal zone,
  do a zone transfer from the remote name server after the vpn comes up
  and populate /etc/hosts.   When the vpn goes down (or the machine is
  rebooted), remove the extra hostnames from /etc/hosts.

I was wondering about exactly that problem with my use of our
company's vpn from my Ubuntu 7.10 laptop.

I never got around to check this but we use an internal domain
company.local for the internal IP address, wouldn't it be possible
to configure a DNS server (bind9) on the laptop to forward
.company.local to the internal DNS server and the rest to the
'default' DNS server? It looks like the zone statement with type
forward would achieve just that.

For Howards's original question, maybe he can just setup a forward
zone for soho.lannet.com which forwards to the internal DNS server,
and forwards the rest of the zones to the default upstream.

(ref: 
http://www.bind9.net/manual/bind/9.3.2/Bv9ARM.ch06.html#zone_statement_grammar)

If someone comes up with the exact incantation to do that I'd
appreciate to see a copy of such a config.

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Re: [SLUG] Bi-directional ssh

2008-04-17 Thread Sonia Hamilton
On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 19:58 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
 quote who=Richard Heycock
 
  Is it possible to use ssh as a type of dynamic vpn so that when I connect
  to a remote machine the remote machine has access to the initiating
  machine?
 
 See the man page section for the -R option to map a remote port to a local
 port. It complements the -L option, which does the opposite. I don't believe
 there's a reverse analogue to the -D option though (SOCKS proxy through the
 remote end), so you're stuck with port mapping.
 
 You can also do sick stuff like ppp-over-ssh.
 
 Or sensible stuff like OpenVPN.

For what you're trying to do, autossh would be useful - keeps a -L/-R tunnel 
alive permanently. I've used it with success to solve *cough* various firewall 
issues at POE's.

$ sudo aptitude install autossh
$ dpkg -L autossh | less

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Re: [SLUG] Manipulating DNS

2008-04-17 Thread Sonia Hamilton
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 09:23 +1000, Amos Shapira wrote:
 I never got around to check this but we use an internal domain
 company.local for the internal IP address, wouldn't it be possible
 to configure a DNS server (bind9) on the laptop to forward
 .company.local to the internal DNS server and the rest to the
 'default' DNS server? It looks like the zone statement with type
 forward would achieve just that.

Slightly OT question here: given that zeroconf now uses .local, is
using .local for internal domains via bind the right way to do things,
or should another name be used?

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Re: [SLUG] Can I be comfortable with this log message

2008-04-17 Thread Tony Sceats
since you've professed a renewed confidence, this may be quite moot, but you
can always look at mod_security which will, amongst other things, stop the
directory traversal attacks which you have been suffering from.

Here's an article you may be interested in

http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1739



On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Rick Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 14:01 +1000, Michael Chesterton wrote:
  On 17/04/2008, at 6:09 AM, Rick Phillips wrote:
  
    1 possible successful probes
   /long_path_to_file/../../../etc/passwd HTTP Response 200
  
   With the environment (described above) in place, should I be
   worried or
   should I be confident that I have taken every precaution I can take?
  
 
  I would be a little concerned if they can download /etc/passwd, they
  could
  download a more sensitive file.  Have you tried to download passwd
  yourself?
  does it actually work?
 
  What's your DocumentRoot, out of curiosity?
 
 Thanks to all who have replied and reinforced my confidence in what I
 have been doing.

 I don't have much gold but I have been through the pain of having my
 server hacked twice in quick succession some years ago when I was wetter
 behind the ears.  Those events alone caused me to be somewhat paranoid.
 The server in question is a small commercial server but I maintain
 several others following the same rules I have outlined in my original
 email.  It is not convenient for me to have to restore from any backups
 as some sites are inconeniently too far away.

 I do like one respondent said, keep mirror a image on a spare disk and
 when I was hacked that got me up again in minutes but this is not always
 convenient, especially when sites and email accounts change frequently.

 I think the exclusion of all connectivity except for a single IP address
 is my greatest protection along with frequently changing complex
 passwords and a non standard port.

 I was looking also to see if anyone had something to offer that I had
 not thought of but I am resting much easier now.

 Thanks again to all who responded.

 Rick

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Re: [SLUG] Manipulating DNS

2008-04-17 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Sonia Hamilton

 Slightly OT question here: given that zeroconf now uses .local, is using
 .local for internal domains via bind the right way to do things, or
 should another name be used?

Avoid using local, because otherwise most mDNS systems will basically bail
out of helping you with local lookups. I generally use 'home' for, uh, home.
:-)

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Re: [SLUG] Manipulating DNS - some progress to report

2008-04-17 Thread Martin Barry
$quoted_author = Howard Lowndes ;

 I then went and looked at the man page for dhclient and saw that there  
 can be such a thing as a dhclient.conf file.  I don't have one in /etc/  
 so I created /etc/dhclient.conf with the following lines:

SNIP

 which seems to accord with the man page, but it appears (judging by a  
 strace) that neither dhclient nor dhclient-script looks at that file.

the man page should have provided some guidance but see if you have a
directory /etc/dhcp/ or /etc/dhcp3/ that dhclient might be looking in.

cheers
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Re: [SLUG] Manipulating DNS - some progress to report

2008-04-17 Thread Martin Barry
$quoted_author = Howard Lowndes ;

 Nuffink, just /etc/dhcpd.conf (which I only use when I have interface  
 eth1 running), and /etc/dhclient.conf which I have just created.

 I might try creating a /etc/dhcp/ directory and the symlinking into it.

 I tried that but it didn't do the trick.

which distribution? what dhclient version?

cheers
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Re: [SLUG] Manipulating DNS - got it!!

2008-04-17 Thread Amos Shapira
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I did this and it was successful, both for internal and external domains
 (tks Amos for that suggestion), and here are the lines from /etc/named.conf:

And how does it work when the VPN is NOT connected? Is it smart enough
to figure out not to try 10.2.2.{1,41} when the VPN is down and go
directly to the external DNS?

What I'm worried about is that the VPN-relevant setup will slow
everything down when the VPN is not connected, timing out on the
internal DNS servers.

Thanks for the update, it's a great help.

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