Re: [SLUG] ADSL2 modems that just simply work with linux -- existed for adsl1

[Glen Turner]

Kyle wrote:

** It seems pretty much every ADSL2 modem is also a router these days 
and thus has an ethernet port. Of course, that also means you need 
another power outlet as opposed to powering over USB like the Alcatel 
stingray did.


Most ADSL modems these day are designed to be wireless routers. So
powering them separately makes sense. You don't want to have to turn
a computer on to power the wireless to be able to use a different
computer.

If you buy a router without wireless, it's really just the wireless
design but lacking the wireless components.

I've never had trouble with Linux and a router with an ethernet
port.  I've always had trouble with routers with USB ports (and
not just limited to Linux, but Vista and MacOS as well).

As for port forwarding versus PPPOE from a Linux server, it really
depends what you want to do.  I do PPPOE myself so I can offer
IPv6 and videoconferencing to users of my House Area Network.
But it's a lot more complex to set up than configuring port forwarding
(since you've also got to set up the server to do DHCP and NAT).

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Re: [SLUG] General Protection Fault

[Heracles]

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Thanks Peter,
Unfortunately the next message is:   syslogd 1.5.0#1ubuntu1: restart.
The previous message is just the DHCP renewal:

Sep 26 11:54:31 Heracles NetworkManager:   DHCP daemon state is
now 3 (renew) for interface eth0
Sep 26 11:54:31 Heracles dhclient: bound to 192.168.1.101 -- renewal in
1420 seconds.

So no clues there.
The program that I started just before the crash was: Crack Attack.

Heracles

Peter Chubb wrote:
>> "heracles" == heracles  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> heracles> Hi, Anyone know what this message means:
> 
> heracles> Sep 26 11:58:34 Heracles kernel: [ 6732.917592] general
> heracles> protection fault:  [1] SMP
> 
> 
> It means that your processor has tried to do something that it is not
> allowed to --- for example, trying to access read-only memory for
> writing.
> 
> The syslog message should have given more info than that --- it should
> have gi9ven a kernel backtrace if the error happened in the kernel,
> or the process affected if in userspace.
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Re: [SLUG] General Protection Fault

[Peter Chubb]

> "heracles" == heracles  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

heracles> Hi, Anyone know what this message means:

heracles> Sep 26 11:58:34 Heracles kernel: [ 6732.917592] general
heracles> protection fault:  [1] SMP


It means that your processor has tried to do something that it is not
allowed to --- for example, trying to access read-only memory for
writing.

The syslog message should have given more info than that --- it should
have gi9ven a kernel backtrace if the error happened in the kernel,
or the process affected if in userspace.
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[SLUG] General Protection Fault

[Heracles]

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Hi,
Anyone know what this message means:

Sep 26 11:58:34 Heracles kernel: [ 6732.917592] general protection
fault:  [1] SMP

I have searched with google but although it gets lots of mentions no one
seems to have a reply.
Is this a hardware or a software fault.
I am running ubuntu 8.04 and kernel:

2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP x86_64 GNU/Linux

according to uname.

TIA
Heracles
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Re: [SLUG] ADSL2 modems that just simply work with linux -- existed for adsl1

[Kyle]

R.G.Salisbury wrote:


Hi All

I don't know of  any adsl2 modems that just work in linux.


It sounds like your trying to bridge the modem to have the host behind 
be the www interface.


I used to do that with ADSL 1 as well, but since moving to 2, I just let 
the modem(/router **) do the negotiation work and set up port forwarding 
rules for those things I want to go straight to the linux server host 
behind it.


You can even set up the modem to forward simply everything to the host 
behind if you still want to use that as a router. Only thing I guess you 
lose there is the ability to mangle/hide your internal IP from the call 
that goes to the outside. Of course if you are doing that, you are 
effectively introducing an 'interim' subnet and can at least mangle to 
the interim subnet's address, thereby still protecting your internal 
addresses.


But by still having iptables running on the box behind AND enabling the 
firewall in the modem, you gain an albeit minimal additional security 
layer. Obviously, it's not going to stop anyone who REALLY wants to get 
in, but it just adds that little extra layer of complexity.


** It seems pretty much every ADSL2 modem is also a router these days 
and thus has an ethernet port. Of course, that also means you need 
another power outlet as opposed to powering over USB like the Alcatel 
stingray did.



Kind Regards

Kyle


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Re: [SLUG] ADSL2 modems that just simply work with linux -- existed for adsl1

[Mary Gardiner]

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008, R.G.Salisbury wrote:
> I have tried Netcomms NB5 which I could not get to work. ( i hope it 
> wasn't a fault with the modem)
> The NB5 supposedly works with adsl1 & adsl2  & supposedly works with 
> MacOS & linux ... but no support documentation that I can find.

I use the Netcomm NB1 ok.

It has the mode that (pretty much?) all modems have now where it can do
the authentication and NAT setup etc itself. In this case, you plug your
Linux box into it via ethernet, pick up an address via DHCP and log into
its web interface to set it up.

If you want to have Linux do all the authentication etc you need to go
to the modem's web interface as above, put it in Bridge Mode, which is a
bit of a pain. But at least you only have to do it once. The best
directions I've found for setting bridge mode on the NB5 are
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=566074&r=8724589#r8724589

I use pppoeconf (the Ubuntu package) to configure authentication and
such from there, and it hasn't gone wrong on ADSL 1 or 2.

-Mary
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Re: [SLUG] ADSL2 modems that just simply work with linux -- existed for adsl1

[Rev Simon Rumble]

This one time, at band camp, R.G.Salisbury wrote:

> I don't know of  any adsl2 modems that just work in linux.

All the ones with an ethernet port just work with Linux.  It's really 
the best approach as it'll never be obsolete or unsupported with your 
OS, no matter what happens in the future.  I've had good experiences 
with Billion.

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Re: [SLUG] ADSL2 modems that just simply work with linux -- existed for adsl1

[Erik de Castro Lopo]

R.G.Salisbury wrote:

> I have tried Netcomms NB5 which I could not get to work. ( i hope it wasn't 
> a fault with the modem)

That modem works fine for me with Linux. My father uses the same
modem, also with Linux.

Funny enough, the modem itself runs linux :-).

> Using Roaring Penquin software 
> rp-pppoe-3.5-32.1.i386.rpm

I let the NB5 do all the ppp and authentication stuff.

Erik
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[SLUG] ADSL2 modems that just simply work with linux -- existed for adsl1

[R.G.Salisbury]

Hi All

I don't know of  any adsl2 modems that just work in linux.

Any one know of any such modems for ADSL2 that play well with linux.
Any links to good sites, documentation etc

I have tried Netcomms NB5 which I could not get to work. ( i hope it wasn't 
a fault with the modem)
The NB5 supposedly works with adsl1 & adsl2  & supposedly works with MacOS & 
linux ... but no support documentation that I can find.



Never  was a problem with adsl  "one" .

I have been using an Alcatel "speed touch home" modem.
That just simply works with linux  ...
& with factory defaults set.

Using Roaring Penquin software 
rp-pppoe-3.5-32.1.i386.rpm
it is very simple to set up.
Just run  "adsl-setup"

Only needs two config files needed for it to work:

chap-secrets  & pppoe.conf as shown below.

Any help very much appreciated

Thx
Roger


## chap-secrets
## Secrets for authentication using CHAP
## client server secret IP addresses
 redhat-config-network will overwrite this part!!! (begin) 
##
 redhat-config-network will overwrite this part!!! (end) 


"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" * "password"


###   pppoe.confor ifcfg-ppp0file
USERCTL=yes
BOOTPROTO=dialup
NAME=DSLppp0
DEVICE=ppp0
TYPE=xDSL
ONBOOT=no
PIDFILE=/var/run/pppoe-adsl.pid
FIREWALL=NONE
PING=.
PPPOE_TIMEOUT=80
LCP_FAILURE=3
LCP_INTERVAL=20
CLAMPMSS=1412
CONNECT_POLL=6
CONNECT_TIMEOUT=60
DEFROUTE=yes
SYNCHRONOUS=no
ETH=eth2
PROVIDER=DSLppp0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PEERDNS=no
DEMAND=no 


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Re: [SLUG] Best WINE Front end ..?

[Glen Turner]

What I find useful is winetricks, which makes
downloading prerequisite software from various
web sites very simple.

Having said that, I still haven't got Outlook
to work.

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Re: [SLUG] Best WINE Front end ..?

[Daniel Pittman]

Kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Daniel Pittman wrote:
>> Kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> I've been looking for a WINE front end to run some MS
>>> apps. (specifically MYOB, but others as well)
>>
>> When you say "front end", what are you thinking of?
>>
>> I ask because my Ubuntu system works exactly as I would expect:
>> running the MYOB installer through Wine installed the software and
>> added the "Start Menu" folders and icons into the KDE "Wine" menu.
>>
> As I understand it, things like playonlinux add a user-friendliness
> form of GUI which makes WINE simpler to configure and install,

Simpler than using the existing tools supplied with your distribution to
install the supported software packages?  I would be surprised.

> whilst at the same time you still have access to the underlying
> aspects of WINE if you want.

Again, I don't really understand what you mean.  Wine doesn't really
have "underlying aspects" in any meaningful sense -- it isn't like you
get a dozen separate utilities to run.

You just, you know, run 'wine example.exe'[1] and it works.

> If WINE is complete, why do further applications which sit on top of
> it exist?

Good question.  Again, this depends on what /you/ mean be "complete", in
that I can't answer your question because wine is, so far as I can tell,
functional and complete.

> My current understanding is that I'm likening playonlinux (and such
> apps) is to WINE just as GKrellm is to lm_sensors.
>
> Is this incorrect?

I think so, in that your question seems to carry the same assumption as
before: that wine is somehow "deficient", "incomplete" or "broken" as
shipped, and that third party solutions are required to provide a GUI
front end to do ... something.

I still don't know what that something is, though, and I am having
trouble even imagining what it could possibly be.


Now, if you had talked about, for example, commercial support for
Microsoft Office, or better support for Windows games[2], then this
would have made sense.

Talking about a "user friendly GUI" to something that doesn't really
have a command line, as such, doesn't make much sense though.

Regards,
Daniel

Footnotes: 
[1]  ... or double-click on the executable in your file manager.

[2]  At least for a while some of the non-free branches of wine had
 better support for this.  I don't know if that is still true.

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[SLUG] September SLUG Monthly Meeting — this Friday

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

== September SLUG Monthly Meeting ==

You can read the full version of this announcement on the Web at
http://www.slug.org.au/node/106

When:
18.30 - 20.30, Friday, 26 September, 2008

We start at 18:30 but we ask that people arrive 15 minutes early so we
can all get into the building and start on time. Please do not arrive
before 18:00, as it may hinder business activities for our host!

Appropriate signage and directions will be posted on the building.

Where:
Atlassian[0], 173-185 Sussex Street, Sydney
(corner of Sussex and Market Street)

Entry is via the rear on Slip Street. There are stairs going down along
the outside of building from Sussex St to near the entrance. A map of
the area and directions can be found here[1].


= Talks =

** General Talk **
Lindsay Holmwood: Practical performance monitoring with collectd

It's 3am and your boss calls asking why the server farm is down. Pages are 
taking ages to load, ping times are skyrocketing, and the big client is 
wondering why they're paying you good money for a down service. You log in and 
your app is running like a dog, the load average is shot, but nothing's 
chewing up CPU. What do you do?

Problems like this don't just happen - there are usually warning signs. Enter 
collectd, a lightweight statistics collection daemon for *nix. Lindsay will be 
covering collectd's statistic collection features, storing the results, 
hooking it into your monitoring system, and graphing the results.


** In-Depth Talk **
Peter Chubb: I Hate Spam!!!

All of us are affected by spam. I'll be giving some war stories ... hear about 
the time that collateral spam brought down UNSW CSE's mail servers ... how to 
report spammers so it doesn't happen to you! ... hear about the time that 
spamassassin managed to OOM and bring down an important web server ... how to 
configure your MTA to reject enough spam that spamassassin doesn't have to do 
so much work.

I'll be giving my examples for Exim configuration, but the principles (and 
I'll be talking more about what to do than how to do it) will apply to all 
mail servers.


** SLUGlets **
General discussion and Q&A about Linux, free software and open source.


= Meeting Schedule =

See here[2] for an explanation of the segments.

 * 18:15 : Open Doors
 * 18:30 : Announcements, News, Introductions
 * 18:45 : General Talk
 * 19:30 : Intermission
 * 19:45 : Split into two groups for
 * In-depth Talk
 * SLUGlets
 * 20:30 : Dinner

Dinner is at Golden Harbour Restaurant, in Chinatown. We will be having
the $24 Banquet[3], but we will be collecting $25 per head for ease of
accounting and to cover a tip. We will be taking numbers during the
break to confirm the reservation size. If you have any particular
dietary requirements (e.g. vegetarian), or if you would prefer to order
separately, let us know beforehand. Dinner is a great way to socialise
and learn in a relaxed atmosphere :)

We hope to see you there!


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[1] http://tinyurl.com/35fxes
[2] http://www.slug.org.au/meetings/meetingformat
[3] http://www.goldenharbour.com.au/specials.html


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Re: [SLUG] Best WINE Front end ..?

[Kyle]

Daniel Pittman wrote:

Kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
  

I've been looking for a WINE front end to run some MS
apps. (specifically MYOB, but others as well)



When you say "front end", what are you thinking of?

I ask because my Ubuntu system works exactly as I would expect: running
the MYOB installer through Wine installed the software and added the
"Start Menu" folders and icons into the KDE "Wine" menu.
  
As I understand it, things like playonlinux add a user-friendliness form 
of GUI which makes WINE simpler to configure and install, whilst at the 
same time you still have access to the underlying aspects of WINE if you 
want.


If WINE is complete, why do further applications which sit on top of it 
exist? My current understanding is that I'm likening playonlinux (and 
such apps) is to WINE just as GKrellm is to lm_sensors.


Is this incorrect?


Kind Regards

Kyle

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Re: [SLUG] Comp TIA+ / CLP

[Martin Visser]

In order to sit for the LPIC 101 and 102 exams basically used  the LPI Linux
Certification in a Nutshell  book from O'Reilly -
http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596005283/ as well as the exam prep material
from https://www.lpi.org/eng/certification/the_lpic_program/lpic_1

Regards, Martin
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[SLUG] Re. apt-get install problem

[Adam Bogacki]

Synaptic also tells me

> W: GPG error: http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au unstable Release: The
> following signatures were invalid: BADSIG A70DAF536070D3A1 Debian
> Archive Automatic Signing Key (4.0/etch) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> W: GPG error: http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au etch Release: The following
> signatures were invalid: BADSIG A70DAF536070D3A1 Debian Archive
> Automatic Signing Key (4.0/etch) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> W: GPG error: http://packages.debian.org unstable Release: The
> following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2
.. which should not affect stuff from other mirrors.

How should one fix these signatures ?

Adam Bogacki,
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[SLUG] apt-get install problem

[Adam Bogacki]

Hi, I have had a problem installing new packages in an etch/lenny system
for a week or two.

Have repository gpg scripts been changed ? Is there a wider problem ?

I've attached todays 'apt-get upgrade' output below.

Synaptic tells me

> The repository may no longer be available or could not be contacted
> because of network problems. If available an older version of the
> failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored.
> Check your network connection and ensure the repository address in the
> preferences is correct.
Adam Bogacki,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Tohunga:~# apt-get upgrade
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree   
> Reading state information... Done
> The following packages have been kept back:
>   abiword-common abiword-help abiword-plugins gpm
> The following packages will be upgraded:
>   acpid libncurses5 libncurses5-dev libncursesw5 ncurses-base ncurses-bin
>   ncurses-term
> 7 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
> 29 not fully installed or removed.
> Need to get 6133kB of archives.
> After this operation, 0B of additional disk space will be used.
> Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
> Get:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main libgnomevfs2-common
> 1:2.22.0-4 [1180kB]
> Get:2 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main gnome-screensaver 2.22.2-1
> [1888kB]
> Get:3 http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main ncurses-bin
> 5.6+20080920-1 [136kB]
> Get:4 http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main libncurses5-dev
> 5.6+20080920-1 [1526kB]
> Get:5 http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main libncurses5
> 5.6+20080920-1 [334kB]
> Get:6 http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main ncurses-base
> 5.6+20080920-1 [174kB]
> Get:7 http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main libncursesw5
> 5.6+20080920-1 [356kB]
> Get:8 http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main ncurses-term
> 5.6+20080920-1 [507kB]
> Get:9 http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main acpid 1.0.6-12
> [31.9kB] 
> Fetched 6133kB in 35s
> (172kB/s)  
> Reading package fields... Done
> Reading package status... Done
> Retrieving bug reports... Done
> Parsing Found/Fixed information... Done
> Reading changelogs... Done
> (Reading database ... 333980 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to replace libgnomevfs2-common 1:2.22.0-4 (using
> .../libgnomevfs2-common_1%3a2.22.0-4_all.deb) ...
> Unpacking replacement libgnomevfs2-common ...
> dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 127
> dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
> dpkg: error processing
> /var/cache/apt/archives/libgnomevfs2-common_1%3a2.22.0-4_all.deb
> (--unpack):
>  subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 127
> dpkg: error while cleaning up:
>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
> Preparing to replace gnome-screensaver 2.22.2-1 (using
> .../gnome-screensaver_2.22.2-1_i386.deb) ...
> Unpacking replacement gnome-screensaver ...
> dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 127
> dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
> dpkg: error processing
> /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-screensaver_2.22.2-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
>  subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 127
> dpkg: error while cleaning up:
>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
> Preparing to replace ncurses-bin 5.6+20080913-1 (using
> .../ncurses-bin_5.6+20080920-1_i386.deb) ...
> Unpacking replacement ncurses-bin ...
> Processing triggers for man-db ...
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libgnomevfs2-common_1%3a2.22.0-4_all.deb
>  /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-screensaver_2.22.2-1_i386.deb
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> Tohunga:~#
>



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[SLUG] Re: "Just Works" flatbed scanner for Hardy (standalone or multifunction)

[Ben]

I went and bought a HP 2280 all-in-one, because it was cheap ($69,
before $20 cash back) and HP usually work ok with Linux.

It doesn't work out of the box, as Hardy is running HPLIP 2.8.2-0 and
the 2280 requires 2.8.6 for scanning.

So I can get it working, which is good, but what happens when the
dist-upgrade comes around? I assume by the time 10.04-LTS is out that
the 2.8.6 or better will be standard, but it is there anything I can
do to make sure the upgrade will go smoothly and the hand installed
2.8.6 will be ignored?

At the moment there's an auto installer for 2.8.9 available. When
dist-upgrading should some effort be made to remove this first, or
would installing it by hand make future upgrades any more successful?

Ben

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Searching for a scanner that's plug and play.
>
> Best I've found so far is the Canon LiDE25 (this is a stand alone
> flatbed scanner).
>
> Found various info that seems to indicate Canon and HP are the best
> bets at the moment. While the Ubuntu hardware guide does have a
> reasonable set of options, I can't find any that are currently
> available.
>
> Emphasis here on the "just works". Relatively cheap would be good too :-)
>
> Size/brand/quality/etc. are not relevant.
>
> I'm really hoping you know of something that will fit the bill as
> buying a bucket of WiFi adapters was one thing, but I don't have the
> space to start a scanner collection :-)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ben
>
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Re: [SLUG] Comp TIA+ / CLP

[Blindraven]

Gonzo looked promising but seems dead, and has not been updated in over a
year.
the other link points towards the same site.

The only place I've found so far is http://www.simt.nsw.edu.au/lpi1.php  -
but they want 2grand.  All I want to do is sit the exam which is only
supposed to be around $70.



On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Michael Chesterton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>
> On 25/09/2008, at 6:03 PM, Blindraven wrote:
>
>  I did take a peek at the LPI site the other day and found no indication of
>> how it works, where I can sit the exam and what material I'd need to be
>> studying in order to prepare myself. The site is very vague on this.
>>
>> Do you know of any yourself?
>>
>
> I think there's a tafe course run from granville that covers LPI.
>
> http://archive.slug.org.au/2006/training.html
> http://www.gonzo.edu.au/moodle/
>
> Everything looks a little out of date, but Geoffrey Robertson looks like
> the
> contact for tafe, and there's lots of links on those pages, include some to
> study material http://lcdp.sourceforge.net/
>
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>
>
>


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Re: [SLUG] Comp TIA+ / CLP

[Michael Chesterton]

On 25/09/2008, at 6:03 PM, Blindraven wrote:

I did take a peek at the LPI site the other day and found no  
indication of
how it works, where I can sit the exam and what material I'd need to  
be

studying in order to prepare myself. The site is very vague on this.

Do you know of any yourself?


I think there's a tafe course run from granville that covers LPI.

http://archive.slug.org.au/2006/training.html
http://www.gonzo.edu.au/moodle/

Everything looks a little out of date, but Geoffrey Robertson looks  
like the
contact for tafe, and there's lots of links on those pages, include  
some to

study material http://lcdp.sourceforge.net/

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Re: [SLUG] Comp TIA+ / CLP

[Blindraven]

I did take a peek at the LPI site the other day and found no indication of
how it works, where I can sit the exam and what material I'd need to be
studying in order to prepare myself. The site is very vague on this.

Do you know of any yourself?




On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 at 10:23, Blindraven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > About a year ago I was looking to get my RHCE but have since decided to
> > shoot for a more realistic goal, something to have under my belt as i
> move
> > along.
> > I've heard of the Comp TIA Linux + Cert and the Novell CLP and am
> wondering
> > which one would be more industry recognisable.
>
> Long story short: anything from CompTIA is rubbish. I can't speak for
> Novell,
> but I hear their Linux certs are decent. My recommendation, however, would
> be
> the LPI certs (lpi.org).
>
>
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> taxi
> cabs and cutting hair." - George Burns
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>


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Re: [SLUG] Best WINE Front end ..?

[Daniel Pittman]

Kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've been looking for a WINE front end to run some MS
> apps. (specifically MYOB, but others as well)

When you say "front end", what are you thinking of?

I ask because my Ubuntu system works exactly as I would expect: running
the MYOB installer through Wine installed the software and added the
"Start Menu" folders and icons into the KDE "Wine" menu.

This is the same as what happened back on Debian, and IIRC has been
fairly standard for a while now.

Running the software from the icon, naturally, fires it up under Wine.


So, what are you actually expecting this "front end" to do?

Regards,
Daniel
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