Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Re: Reviving Sugarbot

[Jameson Quinn]

Realistically, Sugarbot and Develop should ideally be coordinated. I can't
make a commitment to revive sugarbot, but I can say that if someone does the
work to get Sugarbot working I'll do some work to integrate it with Develop.
And I'll be appropriately impressed and grateful to whoever steps forward,
too, and I'll try to help if I can, without repainting your bike shed.

Jameson



2009/5/20 Bernie Innocenti 

> Anyone wants to take it over?
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject:Re: Reviving Sugarbot
> Date:   Wed, 20 May 2009 15:58:40 -0400
> From:   Zach Riggle 
> To: Bernie Innocenti 
> CC: Titus Brown 
>
>
>
> Bernie
>
> I am extremely busy this summer, so I won't be able to assist with
> development.  I would be very glad to help you figure everything out to
> continue development of Sugarbot, though :-).
>
> Something to get you started is available here:
> http://code.google.com/p/sugarbot/wiki/HowDoesSugarbotWork
>
> Let me know if you have any questions, and I'll go into more detail :-D
>
> Zach
>
> On May 20, 2009, at 2:52 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > your project seems just what we need to augment our testing
> > infrastructure:
> >
> >  http://buildbot.sugarlabs.org/
> >
> > Would you like to work on integrating it with the current versions of
> > Sugar?  And if you're too busy, would you be interested in helping us
> > figure it out?
> >
> > --
> >   // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/
> > \X/  Sugar Labs   - http://sugarlabs.org/
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild

[Edward Cherlin]

+1 overall.

The Wiki recommends sugar-jhbuild as an environment for developers.

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team

Development systems

All of core Sugar development except system-dependent modifications
can be done on a standard computer by compiling jhbuild and editing
with your favorite editor (eclipse/pydev, emacs, vim, etc.).

Given its dismal record of being able to compile and run, I have not
found that to be the case. I had complete success _once_ over a period
of months.

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Bernie Innocenti  wrote:
> Today I've kick-started a newbie on building Sugar to fix a small bug
> and submit his first patch.
>
> It was just painful.  jhbuild has plenty of rough corners and we could
> easily make things easier with a few changes:
>
> 1) Stop checking out random unstable versions of external projects.
> They break very often, and we cannot fix them.  Let's instead upgrade
> manually every once in a while after some testing.

Yes!

> 2) Do not build C modules that is already available (and recent enough)
> in popular distros.  Specifically: abiword, matchbox, hippocanvas...

Assuming that we aren't building modified versions, of course.

> 3) Let's move etoys away from the base set of components: the repository
> is often offline, building it breaks very often, and it takes a lot of
> time.  You don't need it in order to test Sugar, the same way you don't
> need TamTam and TurtleArt.

And you don't usually need Sugar to test Etoys. Now that we have
numerous functioning images with functioning Activities, this works
for me. Although I would miss TamTam and Turtle Art. Did I mention
that The Tech Museum of Innovation in San Jose (California) wants to
do an XO exhibit, with a focus on art and music education?

> 4) We could check for prerequisites before starting the build.  Some
> configure scripts are stupid enough to fail tests silently and proceed
> anyway using "no" as a command name in make :-)

Isn't that supposed to be the purpose of './sugar-jhbuild depscheck'?
It doesn't always work, and could be considerably improved with
distribution-specific knowledge.

> If there's consensus on implementing one or more of these points, I can
> provide patches (or just go on and commit them).

Please.

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[Sugar-devel] Fwd: Re: Reviving Sugarbot

[Bernie Innocenti]

Anyone wants to take it over?

 Original Message 
Subject:Re: Reviving Sugarbot
Date:   Wed, 20 May 2009 15:58:40 -0400
From:   Zach Riggle 
To: Bernie Innocenti 
CC: Titus Brown 



Bernie

I am extremely busy this summer, so I won't be able to assist with
development.  I would be very glad to help you figure everything out to
continue development of Sugarbot, though :-).

Something to get you started is available here:
http://code.google.com/p/sugarbot/wiki/HowDoesSugarbotWork

Let me know if you have any questions, and I'll go into more detail :-D

Zach

On May 20, 2009, at 2:52 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote:

> Hello,
>
> your project seems just what we need to augment our testing
> infrastructure:
>
>  http://buildbot.sugarlabs.org/
>
> Would you like to work on integrating it with the current versions of
> Sugar?  And if you're too busy, would you be interested in helping us
> figure it out?
>
> -- 
>   // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/
> \X/  Sugar Labs   - http://sugarlabs.org/

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[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] TurtleArt-50

[Walter Bender]

== .xo ==
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/downloads/file/26052/turtle_art-50.xo

== Source ==
http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/TurtleArt/TurtleArt-50.tar.bz2

== Features ==
* fixed some problems with taexportlogo
* cleaned up save/load icons
* print uses title for Journal objects
* cleaned up movie window destroy code
* more consistent template management internally
* support of a sort for show in taexporthtml

== Documentation ==
http://sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art

enjoy and please report any problems

-walter

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild

[NoiseEHC]

Bernie Innocenti wrote:
> Today I've kick-started a newbie on building Sugar to fix a small bug
> and submit his first patch.
>
> It was just painful.  jhbuild has plenty of rough corners and we could
> easily make things easier with a few changes:
>
> 1) Stop checking out random unstable versions of external projects.
> They break very often, and we cannot fix them.  Let's instead upgrade
> manually every once in a while after some testing.
>
> 2) Do not build C modules that is already available (and recent enough)
> in popular distros.  Specifically: abiword, matchbox, hippocanvas...
>
> 3) Let's move etoys away from the base set of components: the repository
> is often offline, building it breaks very often, and it takes a lot of
> time.  You don't need it in order to test Sugar, the same way you don't
> need TamTam and TurtleArt.
>
> 4) We could check for prerequisites before starting the build.  Some
> configure scripts are stupid enough to fail tests silently and proceed
> anyway using "no" as a command name in make :-)
>
> If there's consensus on implementing one or more of these points, I can
> provide patches (or just go on and commit them).
>
>   
When I tried jhbuild what I found strange that it does not detect the 
Linux distro so I had to manually enter commands as it was specified on 
the wiki. Can we get rid of that? (I have no idea how to detect the 
distro or how to automate that just to let you know this fact...)

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[Sugar-devel] OLPC/Sugar on OpenCommunityCamp

[Marten Vijn]

Dear All,

Inspired by Lionel, I would like to make place for OLPC/Sugar on
OpenCommunityCamp.

The Camp will be from July 26th till 2nd August in the Netherlands (20
from Schiphol Airport AMS)

We can have 6 day's of work and fun together. 
 
Since I am in facilitating in core organization, responsible for the
evening program and other track and doing parts of the content
(*BSD/XO-repairing).

To have this working out I need the help of one or two people who can
take a lead in the program.

So get this working please let me know whether this is interesting. A no
fine too and save me time. Ofcourse I do prefer a yes of some people.

The current evening track has interesting talks already.

During tree day's there is also a Drupal training.

More info:
http://opencommunitycamp.org

evening track:
http://opencommunitycamp.org/2009/?q=node/15

Thanks,
Marten
 

   

 


 







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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sound levels and pulseaudio fallout

[pgf]

martin wrote:
 > (written as part of the brussels test session)
 > 
 > One thing consistent across the machines we're testing with Soas is
 > that many (most?) of them get very low sound levels. This is an issue
 > with Fedora and Pulseaudio.
 > 
 > The fedora devel list is aflame with discussion about this, and it
 > appears that -- beyond the flaming -- the problem is real, and not
 > easy to solve (meaning it won't be solved in F11). There's an
 > excellent article on the topic @ http://lwn.net/Articles/330684/
 > 
 > It looks like Fedora (for this release) will recommend people to use
 > alsamixer (and a revived oldstyle gnome-mixer) as a workaround. I'm
 > not sure if there's a scripted way to get the "other" channels pumped
 > up to their max levels properly -- and if you do it blindly, it seems
 > that you might overshoot the mark and saturate.
 > 
 > Thought I'd flag it as it's quite likely to hit many Soas users. (On
 > known hw such as the XO it's easier to rig it).

low-end hardware like the XO has no business running pulse.  last
i looked, simply playing an uncompressed audio stream
(admittedly, it was probably sourced remotely, but that's not
uncommon) caused pulse to consume about 10% of a 1.6Ghz atom. 

now, it's somewhat possible that my system was misconfigured --
perhaps someone should double check me on this.

paul
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[Sugar-devel] Sound levels and pulseaudio fallout

[Martin Langhoff]

(written as part of the brussels test session)

One thing consistent across the machines we're testing with Soas is
that many (most?) of them get very low sound levels. This is an issue
with Fedora and Pulseaudio.

The fedora devel list is aflame with discussion about this, and it
appears that -- beyond the flaming -- the problem is real, and not
easy to solve (meaning it won't be solved in F11). There's an
excellent article on the topic @ http://lwn.net/Articles/330684/

It looks like Fedora (for this release) will recommend people to use
alsamixer (and a revived oldstyle gnome-mixer) as a workaround. I'm
not sure if there's a scripted way to get the "other" channels pumped
up to their max levels properly -- and if you do it blindly, it seems
that you might overshoot the mark and saturate.

Thought I'd flag it as it's quite likely to hit many Soas users. (On
known hw such as the XO it's easier to rig it).

cheers,



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[Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild

[Bernie Innocenti]

Today I've kick-started a newbie on building Sugar to fix a small bug
and submit his first patch.

It was just painful.  jhbuild has plenty of rough corners and we could
easily make things easier with a few changes:

1) Stop checking out random unstable versions of external projects.
They break very often, and we cannot fix them.  Let's instead upgrade
manually every once in a while after some testing.

2) Do not build C modules that is already available (and recent enough)
in popular distros.  Specifically: abiword, matchbox, hippocanvas...

3) Let's move etoys away from the base set of components: the repository
is often offline, building it breaks very often, and it takes a lot of
time.  You don't need it in order to test Sugar, the same way you don't
need TamTam and TurtleArt.

4) We could check for prerequisites before starting the build.  Some
configure scripts are stupid enough to fail tests silently and proceed
anyway using "no" as a command name in make :-)

If there's consensus on implementing one or more of these points, I can
provide patches (or just go on and commit them).

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bugs] #864 UNSP: Browse activity segfault when clicking on a ogg file

[Sean DALY]

the file is bad.


On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 7:55 PM, SugarLabs Bugs
 wrote:
> #864: Browse activity segfault when clicking on a ogg file
> --+-
>    Reporter:  thjc                       |          Owner:  erikos
>        Type:  defect                     |         Status:  new
>    Priority:  Unspecified by Maintainer  |      Milestone:  soas_fossvt
>   Component:  Browse                     |        Version:  Unspecified
>    Severity:  Unspecified                |     Resolution:
>    Keywords:                             |   Distribution:  SoaS
> Status_field:  Unconfirmed                |
> --+-
>
> Comment(by thjc):
>
>  Actually on further examination, this seems to only happen on the
>  particular Example.ogg that is linked in the main ticket.
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities in Sucrose release cycle

[Aleksey Lim]

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 03:16:27PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 15:40, Aleksey Lim  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Do we really need activities in Sucrose release cycle?
> 
> I think it helps with localization.
> 
> > Think about issue with last Browse which doesn't run on sugar 0.82
> > (but old Browse from 0.82 didn't have needed feature).
> > Another problem - small but valuable fixes(like updating i18n for example)
> > deployers have to patch it by themselves.
> > Or in common, new activity versions in sucrose-0.85 release cycle, are
> > they so 0.85 centric that 0.84(0.82) users cant use these versions.
> 
> Well, I think this is a matter of resources rather than of schedule.
> If people can modify browse in such a way that works with past
> versions, they should. But if it's too costly in matters of time...
> 
> > These versions could be 0.85 centric but we could wrap all sucrose
> > related differences to toplevel API in separate package
> > (I use sugar-port for this purpose[1]).
> > For example on 0.84+ ObjectChooser(from sugar-port) will use
> > preselected mime type but on 0.82 only fake(errorless) code.
> > In that case activity authors can follow this API
> > and write sucrose independent activities.
> 
> Perhaps we should try to do more of it in the sugar toolkit level?
if we will extract sugar-toolkit from sucrose :)

i.e. with ObjectChooser we have 3 options
* no selectable mime types for 0.82
* selectable mime types only for predefined types for 0.84
* custom selectable mime types for 0.86(at least I hope)

If activity author wants his activity to be runnable on 0.82-0.86
he can:
* add try..except/if code to activity
* add sugar-port/chooser.py to his project and use its API

But how sugar-toolkit can be useful in this situation?
So, we have to use non sucrose package, otherwise upgrading
sugar-toolkit-0.82 to 0.86(when the rest of system is 0.82).

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar and XS in VirtualBox

[David Farning]

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Edward Cherlin  wrote:
> Of the .iso images I have tried in VirtualBox, the following worked
> correctly as far as I have gone with them:
>
> o Debian (with only a few Sugar packages available)
> o Fedora (with Sugar packages)
> o Caixa Mágica (but I have not installed Sugar yet)
> o Fedora Sugar Spin (Select Sugar session before logging in)
> o SoaS 20090503
> o Fedora 11 build for XO (preliminary to XO 1.5 builds)
> o XS school server (but I have not fully configured it and tested it with XOs)
>
> The following fail:
>
> o SoaS Beta (Crashes during boot)
> o sugar-jhbuild (X not configured)
>
> I have put my notes on the Emulator Image Files page in the Wiki.
> Please let me know if you would like further details of any of these,
> which I intend to use for further testing.
>
> Now that I have an adequate set of functioning images, I intend to
> practice setting up shares and learning how to use virtual USB drives
> in VirtualBox. My plan has been to develop various sorts of learning
> material in VirtualBox, and extract the saved files from the Journal
> to put into lesson plans in Moodle.
>
> Once I can do all of that, I may need some technical assistance with
> the plan that follows, to make it easy for content developers to set
> up Sugar in emulation and move lesson plans in and out without having
> to understand setting up VirtualBox themselves.
>
Very nice.  Well running and well documented usage of Sugar on various
distros in VirtualBox will make it _much_ easier to appeal to larger
testing, content authoring, and developer audiences.

david
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: One week slip of Fedora 11 Release

[David Farning]

Unless there is a good reason, I would say no.

Maintaining an upstream release date is an important planning tool for
all of Sugar Labs' downstream partners and users.

david

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Bernie Innocenti  wrote:
> Shall we re-adjust our schedule accordingly?
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: One week slip of Fedora 11 Release
> Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 14:29:23 -0700
> From: Jesse Keating 
> Reply-To: fedora-l...@redhat.com
> Organization: Red Hat
> To: fedora-announce-l...@redhat.com, fedora-devel-annou...@redhat.com,
> fedora-test-l...@redhat.com
>
> In a meeting today between Release Engineering, QA, and various team
> leads, we decided to enact a 7 day slip of the Fedora 11 release date.
> The primary reason behind this slip is the state of our blocker bug:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F11Blocker&hide_resolved=1
>  We cannot begin Release Candidate phase until the blocker bugs are
> closed or at least in MODIFIED state.  We are not there today, which
> would be our last day to enter RC phase and still have enough time to
> release on the 26th.  We hope to enter RC phase in the next couple days,
> and hit our new target, June 2nd.
>
> Freeze breaks for critical bugs will still be accepted, however trivial
> bug fixes should be pushed as updates via bodhi.  Thanks!
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] SugarCamp Links

[David Farning]

Lionel,
Thanks for coordinating the event.  The wide breadth of participation,
passion, and skills was truly amazing.

I look forward to working with you and the rest of OLPCFrance again in
the near future.

david

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:37 PM, LASKE, Lionel (C2S)  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Thanks to all participants to the SugarCamp. It was really a great event.
> OLPC France is proud to organize this event with SugarLabs.
>
>
>
> Many thanks again to our sponsor AFUL and GDium.
>
>
>
> Below few links to remind you the event.
>
>
>
>    Lionel
>
>
>
>
>
> Bonjour,
>
>
>
> Merci à tous les participants du SugarCamp. C’était réellement un superbe
> événement que OLPC France est fier d’avoir organisé avec le SugarLabs.
>
>
>
> Un grand merci encore à nos sponsors l’AFUL et GDium.
>
>
>
> Ci-dessous quelques liens pour revivre l’événement.
>
>
>
>    Lionel.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Photo:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/88206...@n00/sets/72157618364258402/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/50394...@n00/sets/72157618264065620/
>
>
>
> Videos:
>
> http://www.dailymotion.com/olpcfrance/video/15670571
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwWDxTsCkxg
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkSvI0i1qRE
>
>
>
> Audio:
>
> http://www.wat.tv/audio/laske-lionel-president-olpc-1i6me_1hg7a_.html
>
>
>
> Report:
>
> http://olpc-france.org/wiki/index.php?title=Atelier_traduction_malgache_:_compte-rendu
>
> http://www.sugarcamp.canalblog.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Obsolete jhbuild start script, do run 'make install'

[Simon Schampijer]

On 05/20/2009 04:40 PM, Gary C Martin wrote:
> On 20 May 2009, at 12:00, Simon Schampijer wrote:
>
>> On 05/19/2009 10:52 PM, Gary C Martin wrote:
>>> Anyone managed to work around the "Obsolete jhbuild start script, do
>>> run 'make install'" yet? I'd been religiously avoiding updating sugar-
>>> jubuild for a few weeks as it was working fine (other than going out
>>> of date) and I'd noticed a whole rash of other folks emailing and
>>> trac'ing with issues. I finally tried today and things broke, as I'd
>>> feared :-(
>>>
>>> Have an F10 VM running sugar-jhbuild that was working just fine until
>>> I tried to refresh, Sascha has mentioned that the jhbuild git rep has
>>> been recently moved, and the below ticket:
>>>
>>> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=582490
>>>
>>> on SL ticket:
>>>
>>> http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/857
>>>
>>> But I found neither a ~/bin/ or ~/.local/bin/, and nothing seems to
>>> want to 'make install'.
>>>
>>> Any hints appreciated!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> --Gary
>>
>> Hi Gary,
>>
>> #857 does contain a fix now - which does work for me. Looks good to me
>> - but want that our sugar-jhbuild maintainer has a quick look at it as
>> well :)
>
> Fab, thanks Simon. The changes to the sugar-jhbuild script work well for
> me here, all up and running again. FWIW I did have one other issue I had
> to manually fix before I could successfully build, the error was:
>
> *** Building sugar-update-control *** [22/37]
> python setup.py build
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "setup.py", line 2, in 
> from DistUtilsExtra.command import * # gettext support
> ImportError: No module named DistUtilsExtra.command
>
> I re-tried:
>
> ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck
>
> ...but this gave no indication that the module was needed, or missing,
> so I manually installed it with:
>
> sudo yum install python-distutils-extra
>
> Build was all happy after this.
>
> Regards,
> --Gary

Great. We should check that all the deps are setup correctly.

That might be something else you run into: 
http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/861

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Obsolete jhbuild start script, do run 'make install'

[Gary C Martin]

On 20 May 2009, at 12:00, Simon Schampijer wrote:

> On 05/19/2009 10:52 PM, Gary C Martin wrote:
>> Anyone managed to work around the "Obsolete jhbuild start script, do
>> run 'make install'" yet? I'd been religiously avoiding updating  
>> sugar-
>> jubuild for a few weeks as it was working fine (other than going out
>> of date) and I'd noticed a whole rash of other folks emailing and
>> trac'ing with issues. I finally tried today and things broke, as I'd
>> feared :-(
>>
>> Have an F10 VM running sugar-jhbuild that was working just fine until
>> I tried to refresh, Sascha has mentioned that the jhbuild git rep has
>> been recently moved, and the below ticket:
>>
>>  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=582490
>>
>> on SL ticket:
>>
>>  http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/857
>>
>> But I found neither a ~/bin/ or ~/.local/bin/, and nothing seems to
>> want to 'make install'.
>>
>> Any hints appreciated!
>>
>> Regards,
>> --Gary
>
> Hi Gary,
>
> #857 does contain a fix now - which does work for me. Looks good to  
> me - but want that our sugar-jhbuild maintainer has a quick look at  
> it as well :)

Fab, thanks Simon. The changes to the sugar-jhbuild script work well  
for me here, all up and running again. FWIW I did have one other issue  
I had to manually fix before I could successfully build, the error was:

*** Building sugar-update-control *** [22/37]
python setup.py build
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "setup.py", line 2, in 
 from DistUtilsExtra.command import * # gettext support
ImportError: No module named DistUtilsExtra.command

I re-tried:

./sugar-jhbuild depscheck

...but this gave no indication that the module was needed, or missing,  
so I manually installed it with:

sudo yum install python-distutils-extra

Build was all happy after this.

Regards,
--Gary

> Regards,
>   Simon

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities in Sucrose release cycle

[Tomeu Vizoso]

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 15:40, Aleksey Lim  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Do we really need activities in Sucrose release cycle?

I think it helps with localization.

> Think about issue with last Browse which doesn't run on sugar 0.82
> (but old Browse from 0.82 didn't have needed feature).
> Another problem - small but valuable fixes(like updating i18n for example)
> deployers have to patch it by themselves.
> Or in common, new activity versions in sucrose-0.85 release cycle, are
> they so 0.85 centric that 0.84(0.82) users cant use these versions.

Well, I think this is a matter of resources rather than of schedule.
If people can modify browse in such a way that works with past
versions, they should. But if it's too costly in matters of time...

> These versions could be 0.85 centric but we could wrap all sucrose
> related differences to toplevel API in separate package
> (I use sugar-port for this purpose[1]).
> For example on 0.84+ ObjectChooser(from sugar-port) will use
> preselected mime type but on 0.82 only fake(errorless) code.
> In that case activity authors can follow this API
> and write sucrose independent activities.

Perhaps we should try to do more of it in the sugar toolkit level?

Regards,

Tomeu

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

[Lucian Branescu]

rEFIt http://refit.sourceforge.net/ is akin to GRUB, but nicer. It
detects and shows all boot options.

2009/5/20 Sean DALY :
> This may be helpful too:
>
> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1310
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Sean DALY  wrote:
>> For completeness, here are the documented Apple OSX keyboard
>> shortcuts, stable over the past six versions (10.0->10.5):
>>
>> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1343
>>
>> Potentially useful at boot time: the Option key (looks like a ski
>> slope) to show & select bootable volumes
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Dave Bauer  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Edward Cherlin  wrote:

 On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Caryl Bigenho 
 wrote:
 > Hi,
 >
 > I downloaded soas-beta.iso to my MacBook and burned it to a disk.  I
 > would
 > like to get it to boot and be usable on the MacBook.  Does anyone know
 > how
 > to do this?

 Most x86 ISOs boot just fine on an x86 Mac with no preparation other
 than to tell MacOS to boot from the CD. PPC, no. ^_^
>>>
>>> You can reboot and hold down the "C" key to boot from the CDROM.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>

 > Thanks,
 >
 > Caryl
 >
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

[Sean DALY]

This may be helpful too:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1310



On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Sean DALY  wrote:
> For completeness, here are the documented Apple OSX keyboard
> shortcuts, stable over the past six versions (10.0->10.5):
>
> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1343
>
> Potentially useful at boot time: the Option key (looks like a ski
> slope) to show & select bootable volumes
>
> Sean
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Dave Bauer  wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Edward Cherlin  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Caryl Bigenho 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > I downloaded soas-beta.iso to my MacBook and burned it to a disk.  I
>>> > would
>>> > like to get it to boot and be usable on the MacBook.  Does anyone know
>>> > how
>>> > to do this?
>>>
>>> Most x86 ISOs boot just fine on an x86 Mac with no preparation other
>>> than to tell MacOS to boot from the CD. PPC, no. ^_^
>>
>> You can reboot and hold down the "C" key to boot from the CDROM.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>>
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > Caryl
>>> >
>>> > ___
>>> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
>>> > i...@lists.sugarlabs.org
>>> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> http://www.solutiongrove.com
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

[Sean DALY]

For completeness, here are the documented Apple OSX keyboard
shortcuts, stable over the past six versions (10.0->10.5):

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1343

Potentially useful at boot time: the Option key (looks like a ski
slope) to show & select bootable volumes

Sean



On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Dave Bauer  wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Edward Cherlin  wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Caryl Bigenho 
>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I downloaded soas-beta.iso to my MacBook and burned it to a disk.  I
>> > would
>> > like to get it to boot and be usable on the MacBook.  Does anyone know
>> > how
>> > to do this?
>>
>> Most x86 ISOs boot just fine on an x86 Mac with no preparation other
>> than to tell MacOS to boot from the CD. PPC, no. ^_^
>
> You can reboot and hold down the "C" key to boot from the CDROM.
>
> Dave
>
>>
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Caryl
>> >
>> > ___
>> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
>> > i...@lists.sugarlabs.org
>> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> And Children are my nation.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Obsolete jhbuild start script, do run 'make install'

[Simon Schampijer]

On 05/19/2009 10:52 PM, Gary C Martin wrote:
> Anyone managed to work around the "Obsolete jhbuild start script, do
> run 'make install'" yet? I'd been religiously avoiding updating sugar-
> jubuild for a few weeks as it was working fine (other than going out
> of date) and I'd noticed a whole rash of other folks emailing and
> trac'ing with issues. I finally tried today and things broke, as I'd
> feared :-(
>
> Have an F10 VM running sugar-jhbuild that was working just fine until
> I tried to refresh, Sascha has mentioned that the jhbuild git rep has
> been recently moved, and the below ticket:
>
>   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=582490
>
> on SL ticket:
>
>   http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/857
>
> But I found neither a ~/bin/ or ~/.local/bin/, and nothing seems to
> want to 'make install'.
>
> Any hints appreciated!
>
> Regards,
> --Gary

Hi Gary,

#857 does contain a fix now - which does work for me. Looks good to me - 
but want that our sugar-jhbuild maintainer has a quick look at it as well :)

Regards,
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar and XS in VirtualBox

[Dave Bauer]

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Martin Langhoff
wrote:

> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Edward Cherlin 
> wrote:
> > o XS school server (but I have not fully configured it and tested it with
> XOs)
>
> Not sure how the strange expectations on networking gear the XS has
> will play on the VM. But I can recommend:
>
>  - using the experimental 0.6 "img" files, which are preinstalled ext3
> images.
>
>  - if you give the VM only one NIC, you'll want to use xs-swapnics (+
> reboot) to make it the LAN NIC.


You can setup two NICs in virtualbox with one bridged or NAT and the other
on an internal network. Then you can connect other VMs running sugar to the
internal network and it works as expected.


>
>
>  - if your VM networking infra wants to handle dhcp and routing, them
> hummm, I don't know what to suggest. the XS wants to "run the network"
> and it won't be easy to talk him out of it.
>

I have got this working for simple testing, where everything is running on
one NIC, and DHCP is handled by  my wireless router, but I forgot exactly
what I did. I'll try to figure it out and post. It's good for testing.

Dave

>
> hth,
>
>
> m
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

[Dave Bauer]

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Edward Cherlin  wrote:

> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Caryl Bigenho 
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I downloaded soas-beta.iso to my MacBook and burned it to a disk.  I
> would
> > like to get it to boot and be usable on the MacBook.  Does anyone know
> how
> > to do this?
>
> Most x86 ISOs boot just fine on an x86 Mac with no preparation other
> than to tell MacOS to boot from the CD. PPC, no. ^_^
>

You can reboot and hold down the "C" key to boot from the CDROM.

Dave


>
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Caryl
> >
> > ___
> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
> > i...@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
> >
>
>
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] [IAEP] personal marketing (bottum up approach)

[Marten Vijn]

On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 11:23 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 20:45, Marten Vijn  wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 20:35 +0200, David Van Assche wrote:
> >> me too, shall we take a practical approach and suggest some locations?
> >>
> > My current focus in the Netherlands, preferable in Leiden if machine
> > needs to be setup.
> >
> > If a have opportunities (aboard) I 'll let you know,
> 
> I guess we should contact the organizations (universitites, telecoms,
> etc) that are already mirroring linux distros and other FOSS projects?

Yes,

currently on my list:
- university of twente
- nluug (proffessial unix user group)
- xs4all.nl (ISP)

These are already mirroing *BSD's / GNU-Linux's and more floss projects.

cheers Marten




> It may be a first contact that leads to other collaboration in the future.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Tomeu
> 
> > cheers,
> > Marten
> >
> >
> >
> >> David (nubae) Van Assche
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Marten Vijn  wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:46 +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
> >> >> On 05/19/09 13:51, Walter Bender wrote:
> >> >> > Maybe we can find a time in the next few days to all meet on IRC to
> >> >> > discuss this? CC'ng Bernie as he is most familiar with the SL
> >> >> > infrastructure.
> >> >
> >> >> Unfortunately, both the main download site and the mirror are located in
> >> >> Boston, so they're both going to be slow for people on the other side of
> >> >> the world.
> >> >
> >> > oke, I 'll am going to look European mirrors
> >> >
> >> > Marten
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > http://martenvijn.nl Marten Vijn
> >> > http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/soas  Sugar on a Stick
> >> > http://bsd.wifisoft.org/nek/ The Network Event Kit
> >> > http://har2009.org   13th-16th August
> >> > http://opencommunitycamp.org 26th Jul - 2nd August
> >> >
> >> > ___
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> >> > i...@lists.sugarlabs.org
> >> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
> >> >
> >> ___
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> >> i...@lists.sugarlabs.org
> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
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> > http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/soas  Sugar on a Stick
> > http://bsd.wifisoft.org/nek/ The Network Event Kit
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> >
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Obsolete jhbuild start script, do run 'make install'

[Tomeu Vizoso]

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 22:52, Gary C Martin  wrote:
> Anyone managed to work around the "Obsolete jhbuild start script, do
> run 'make install'" yet? I'd been religiously avoiding updating sugar-
> jubuild for a few weeks as it was working fine (other than going out
> of date) and I'd noticed a whole rash of other folks emailing and
> trac'ing with issues. I finally tried today and things broke, as I'd
> feared :-(
>
> Have an F10 VM running sugar-jhbuild that was working just fine until
> I tried to refresh, Sascha has mentioned that the jhbuild git rep has
> been recently moved, and the below ticket:
>
>        http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=582490
>
> on SL ticket:
>
>        http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/857
>
> But I found neither a ~/bin/ or ~/.local/bin/, and nothing seems to
> want to 'make install'.
>
> Any hints appreciated!

Some additional info:

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=579877

Regards,

Tomeu
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] [IAEP] personal marketing (bottum up approach)

[Tomeu Vizoso]

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 20:45, Marten Vijn  wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 20:35 +0200, David Van Assche wrote:
>> me too, shall we take a practical approach and suggest some locations?
>>
> My current focus in the Netherlands, preferable in Leiden if machine
> needs to be setup.
>
> If a have opportunities (aboard) I 'll let you know,

I guess we should contact the organizations (universitites, telecoms,
etc) that are already mirroring linux distros and other FOSS projects?

It may be a first contact that leads to other collaboration in the future.

Regards,

Tomeu

> cheers,
> Marten
>
>
>
>> David (nubae) Van Assche
>>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Marten Vijn  wrote:
>> > On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:46 +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
>> >> On 05/19/09 13:51, Walter Bender wrote:
>> >> > Maybe we can find a time in the next few days to all meet on IRC to
>> >> > discuss this? CC'ng Bernie as he is most familiar with the SL
>> >> > infrastructure.
>> >
>> >> Unfortunately, both the main download site and the mirror are located in
>> >> Boston, so they're both going to be slow for people on the other side of
>> >> the world.
>> >
>> > oke, I 'll am going to look European mirrors
>> >
>> > Marten
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > http://martenvijn.nl                 Marten Vijn
>> > http://martenvijn.nl/trac/wiki/soas  Sugar on a Stick
>> > http://bsd.wifisoft.org/nek/         The Network Event Kit
>> > http://har2009.org                   13th-16th August
>> > http://opencommunitycamp.org         26th Jul - 2nd August
>> >
>> > ___
>> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
>> > i...@lists.sugarlabs.org
>> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>> >
>> ___
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>> i...@lists.sugarlabs.org
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar and XS in VirtualBox

[Martin Langhoff]

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Edward Cherlin  wrote:
> o XS school server (but I have not fully configured it and tested it with XOs)

Not sure how the strange expectations on networking gear the XS has
will play on the VM. But I can recommend:

 - using the experimental 0.6 "img" files, which are preinstalled ext3 images.

 - if you give the VM only one NIC, you'll want to use xs-swapnics (+
reboot) to make it the LAN NIC.

 - if your VM networking infra wants to handle dhcp and routing, them
hummm, I don't know what to suggest. the XS wants to "run the network"
and it won't be easy to talk him out of it.

hth,


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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Localization] Help activity

[Tomeu Vizoso]

[forwarding to sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org]

2009/5/14 Diogo Serra @ IPLEIRIA :
> Hy there,
>
> Where i can find the *.po  of Help activity ?
>
> Thanks
> --
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> Programação e Desenvolvimento
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Re: [Sugar-devel] disabling "tap to click"

[Tomeu Vizoso]

I'm forwarding this to de...@lists.laptop.org because some people
familiar with the OLPC hardware and software might not be in
sugar-devel.

Regards,

Tomeu

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Date: Tue, May 19, 2009 at 14:21
Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] disabling "tap to click"
To: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org


roshan wrote:
 > yes I have those current XOs with standard touchpad and I'm using os767.

in that case you're in somewhat uncharted territory.  the
tap_time parameter mentioned in in the link you gave below is
documented to only work with absolute touchpads, so i doubt it
applies.

there may be some special synaptics support you can try (bobby
mentioned gsynaptics, for instance, which i've never used).
please let us know what you discover.

paul

 >
 > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Bobby Powers  wrote:
 >
 > > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Tomeu Vizoso  wrote:
 > > > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 10:01, roshan karki  wrote:
 > > >> Hello,
 > > >>
 > > >> How can I disable "tap to click". I tried this
 > > >> http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/bugs/2008-June/079845.html but it
 > > doesn't
 > > >> work.
 > > >
 > > > Hi Roshan,
 > > >
 > > > can you be more specific about which hardware and version of sugar are
 > > > you using? As far as I know, OLPC has never released a version with
 > > > tap-to-click enabled.
 > >
 > > I think the current XOs coming off the line have a standard touchpad
 > > (as opposed to the dual-use touchpad/tablet), which has tap for click
 > > capabilities.  You might be able to install gsynaptics.
 > >
 > > Bobby
 > >
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: One week slip of Fedora 11 Release

[Bernie Innocenti]

On 05/20/09 10:33, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
> Shall we re-adjust our schedule accordingly?

Sorry, my brain is broken.  I parsed "11" as "12" and hit Send before
actually reading the full announcement.

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[Sugar-devel] Fwd: One week slip of Fedora 11 Release

[Bernie Innocenti]

Shall we re-adjust our schedule accordingly?

 Original Message 
Subject: One week slip of Fedora 11 Release
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 14:29:23 -0700
From: Jesse Keating 
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Organization: Red Hat
To: fedora-announce-l...@redhat.com, fedora-devel-annou...@redhat.com,
fedora-test-l...@redhat.com

In a meeting today between Release Engineering, QA, and various team
leads, we decided to enact a 7 day slip of the Fedora 11 release date.
The primary reason behind this slip is the state of our blocker bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=F11Blocker&hide_resolved=1
 We cannot begin Release Candidate phase until the blocker bugs are
closed or at least in MODIFIED state.  We are not there today, which
would be our last day to enter RC phase and still have enough time to
release on the 26th.  We hope to enter RC phase in the next couple days,
and hit our new target, June 2nd.

Freeze breaks for critical bugs will still be accepted, however trivial
bug fixes should be pushed as updates via bodhi.  Thanks!

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[Sugar-devel] Sugar and XS in VirtualBox

[Edward Cherlin]

Of the .iso images I have tried in VirtualBox, the following worked
correctly as far as I have gone with them:

o Debian (with only a few Sugar packages available)
o Fedora (with Sugar packages)
o Caixa Mágica (but I have not installed Sugar yet)
o Fedora Sugar Spin (Select Sugar session before logging in)
o SoaS 20090503
o Fedora 11 build for XO (preliminary to XO 1.5 builds)
o XS school server (but I have not fully configured it and tested it with XOs)

The following fail:

o SoaS Beta (Crashes during boot)
o sugar-jhbuild (X not configured)

I have put my notes on the Emulator Image Files page in the Wiki.
Please let me know if you would like further details of any of these,
which I intend to use for further testing.

Now that I have an adequate set of functioning images, I intend to
practice setting up shares and learning how to use virtual USB drives
in VirtualBox. My plan has been to develop various sorts of learning
material in VirtualBox, and extract the saved files from the Journal
to put into lesson plans in Moodle.

Once I can do all of that, I may need some technical assistance with
the plan that follows, to make it easy for content developers to set
up Sugar in emulation and move lesson plans in and out without having
to understand setting up VirtualBox themselves.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Bug 582490] Jhbuild crashing (NameError)

[Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero]

This patch fixes the problem

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=135004&action=view


Rafael Ortiz


On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:52 AM, Edward Cherlin  wrote:

> New problem in sugar-jhbuild on Fedora.
>
>
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> From: jhbuild (bugzilla.gnome.org) 
> Date: Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:52 PM
> Subject: [Bug 582490] Jhbuild crashing (NameError)
> To: echer...@gmail.com
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>
> --- Comment #5 from Frederic Peters  2009-05-20 06:52 UTC ---
> > jhbuild: Obsolete jhbuild start script, do run 'make install'
> >
> > is highly uninformative and unhelpful. If you have detected the
> situation, you
> > can tell the user which file is the problem.
>
> Sorry, I thought it was clear enough.
>
> > * In which directory should I execute 'make install'?
>
> It is talking about jhbuild, so the jhbuild sources directory.
>
> > * Neither ~/bin/ nor ~/.local/bin/ exist in my installation.
>
> Then I don't know how you did install jhbuild before.
>
> > * What is the name of the start script?
>
> jhbuild.
>
> > * How do I tell which is the obsolete version?
>
> The one you just ran.
>
> Given those information, do you have any idea for a better error message?
>
> [Other users have had this problem on clean installs, as I did. There
> is a new patch.]
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[Sugar-devel] Fwd: [Bug 582490] Jhbuild crashing (NameError)

[Edward Cherlin]

New problem in sugar-jhbuild on Fedora.


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Date: Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:52 PM
Subject: [Bug 582490] Jhbuild crashing (NameError)
To: echer...@gmail.com


--- Comment #5 from Frederic Peters  2009-05-20 06:52 UTC ---
> jhbuild: Obsolete jhbuild start script, do run 'make install'
>
> is highly uninformative and unhelpful. If you have detected the situation, you
> can tell the user which file is the problem.

Sorry, I thought it was clear enough.

> * In which directory should I execute 'make install'?

It is talking about jhbuild, so the jhbuild sources directory.

> * Neither ~/bin/ nor ~/.local/bin/ exist in my installation.

Then I don't know how you did install jhbuild before.

> * What is the name of the start script?

jhbuild.

> * How do I tell which is the obsolete version?

The one you just ran.

Given those information, do you have any idea for a better error message?

[Other users have had this problem on clean installs, as I did. There
is a new patch.]
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