Re: When will SeaMonkey use Firefox v3.6.2's Gecko version?

2010-04-07 Thread Ant

On 4/6/2010 9:24 PM PT, Steve Wendt typed:


Does SM have a map of its versions? I remember it (and original
Mozilla
suite) used to, but I couldn't find it a few months ago.

The release dates graph.


No. We have no firm dates planned for anything, not even a good idea how
many alphas and betas we'll do for 2.1, so also no graph.


If historical data is what he was after, this is available:
http://www-archive.mozilla.org/releases/history.html


Wow, so old. I remember they used to keep it updated. :(
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Re: Creating HTML email messages

2010-04-07 Thread Ray_Net

David E. Ross wrote:


Some think that images in HTML-formatted E-mail messages are somehow
embedded within the source of the message, that they are in-line.
Instead, images are generally binary files that traverse the Internet as
distinct packets not embedded in the source.  At least that's how
HTML-formatted messages reach my ISP's mail server.

I have tested, and the attached file is embedded in the text of a 
text-format mail. I was unable to copy/paste the mail here - it looks 
like the post is sent from my pc, but never arrive in 
mozilla.support.seamonkey

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Re: blank page when reading pdf file

2010-04-07 Thread Daniel

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Arne wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/5/10 9:14 AM, Walter wrote:

I click on a pdf file and adobe reader loads it ok. directly behind it
is a blank page. shouldn't it be the page from which I came? with the
link to the pdf page?
Walter.


I get this sometimes when the link is actually for JavaScript. The
script tries to launch a new page (which in my case becomes a new tab)
as it fetches the PDF file. It seems that the script actually downloads
another script (new page) that, in turn, gets the PDF file. Obviously,
if this is what is happening, it's a poorly designed Web site.


In my opinion there is no need at all for SM to open a blank tab/page
when it's the PDF reader that is launched, no matter how the web page
is designed! Why not just open the PDF reader?


I don't think it necessarily is supposed to. On occasion, when SeaMonkey
crashes for whatever reason it goes to a Blank Home page the only way to
cure is go to your homepage. then go to Preferences (in Macintosh -
called something else in Widows/Linux/UNIX) then To Browser clear out
what ever you have set as home page and click on Use current page) this
will fix it until next crash. Possibly the same mechanism the screws up
then is screwing up when you call a PDF and the only PDF viewer from
within SM or ThunderBird for that matter, that works is called PDF
Browser Plugin by Schubert of Germany.



There's no crash involved with this, though - it's just this extra,
blank page that opens up while the PDF is downloading and before
whatever external PDF reader is called, and which stays open and blank,
even after the PDF reader is exited.

It's not a crash, and it's really only cumbersome to the extent that
it requires one click on the X to close it away, but it's still a bug.
-JW


Cannot see the prob, myself!! You tell SM to open a page called 
www.somethinghere.com/otherthing.pdf The first thing SM does is start 
to look for the www.somethinghere.com so opens a new browser (or in a 
current browser) page, then, and only then, does SM look at the next bit 
otherthing.pdf and realises that it needs to do whatever you have set 
up to handle a pdf file.


Cannot see the prob!! Of course, my understanding of the situation might 
be stuffed, but it seems to apply.


Daniel
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Re: Web Address History

2010-04-07 Thread Martin F.

JohnW-Mpls schrieb:


Ever since I switched to SM 2.x, I get to see only two previous web
addresses in the browser screen. (down arrow under the web address
space).   I used to see a couple dozen.

Where can I change a setting to increase this?


It's dozens by default, can you reproduce that with a fresh profile with 
Seamonkey's ProfileManager?


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Re: Web Address History

2010-04-07 Thread Daniel

JohnW-Mpls wrote:


Ever since I switched to SM 2.x, I get to see only two previous web
addresses in the browser screen. (down arrow under the web address
space).   I used to see a couple dozen.

Where can I change a setting to increase this?




This History list is only those web addresses that you have physically 
entered into the browser address bar (not clicked on a link, used your 
addressbook, whatever) and it is possible (I guess) that when you 
installed SM 2 and it copied over your profile from SM 1, it didn't copy 
over the History. Maybe not!


Daniel
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Re: Web Address History

2010-04-07 Thread Martin F.

Daniel schrieb:

This History list is only those web addresses that you have physically
entered into the browser address bar (not clicked on a link, used your
addressbook, whatever) and it is possible (I guess) that when you
installed SM 2 and it copied over your profile from SM 1, it didn't copy
over the History. Maybe not!


In fact SM2 uses more than the previously typed ones by default. You 
have to enable a checkbox in the preferences to get the old behaviour 
back if I'm not mistaken.

Without doing so the result list is hge...
regards

Martin
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Re: Creating HTML email messages

2010-04-07 Thread Bill Davidsen

Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:


Some think that images in HTML-formatted E-mail messages are somehow
embedded within the source of the message, that they are in-line.
Instead, images are generally binary files that traverse the Internet as
distinct packets not embedded in the source.  At least that's how
HTML-formatted messages reach my ISP's mail server.

I have tested, and the attached file is embedded in the text of a 
text-format mail. I was unable to copy/paste the mail here - it looks 
like the post is sent from my pc, but never arrive in 
mozilla.support.seamonkey


I have put a few examples up at http://www/~davidsen/Private/HTMLmail/
for clarity. The small one is a reasonable short note, even with use of a few 
fonts for highlighting and rendering the mailing address in the sig as a mailto: 
link, the size is only a few hundred bytes larger than pure text. I had another, 
but lost it, using one indented paragraph in fixed with text (pre) so the shell 
script would stand out. That only added another hundred bytes or so, and made it 
much easier to read. I had to delete it, there was some client info in the 
script, sorry.


The medium size has a quite fancy signature with a cartoon, and a bit of fonts 
and such, it's 12k and I only have that sig for a demo, not as a normal thing.


The last has an embedded image, and it is larger, but can be viewed by someone 
who is behind a firewall which limits http access. It's large because the sender 
made it that way, not because it's HTML, and it does have an advantage of being 
viewable if you download and read offline. I send out a newsletter to ~200 
people, and based on complaints I think about 8-10% do download and read later 
offline. People who pay by the connect minute, I'm told. Pay by the byte is not 
the only pay-as-you-go billing option.


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Re: Help ref SeaMonkey/Fire Fox command

2010-04-07 Thread Bill Davidsen

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/5/10 12:27 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/30/10 2:07 PM, Lee wrote:

Hi Ray, OK copied and put it in and I assume it works but one question
do I put in the NOT  I copied it exactly as you wrote it and I assume
that was the way it was supposed to be but I just was not sure about the
NOT  Thanks again for taking the time.

Ray_Net wrote:

Lee wrote:

what is the command and where do I install it?
If I remember it is in the about: config and I
have to enter a command making the web site think
I am using Fire Fox while I am using Sea Monkey
Would you please post it. Thanks for assistance

about:config ---
New string: general.useragent.extra.firefox - user set - string - NOT
Firefox/2.0.0.12

or other version like 3.5

The NOT is so that anyone (live person, not software) looking at the
server log will see that SeaMonkey actually displayed the page.

I would suggest, however, that you use an extension such as PrefBar or
User Agent Switcher and delete the change to about:config.  These
extensions allow you to spoof Firefox or other browsers as needed
without permanently spoofing.  Thus, other Web sites that work okay with
SeaMonkey will continue to have SeaMonkey logged when you visit them.

Does as needed really work right? Or does that mean after you manually enter 
a list of sites to spoof?


I avoid extensions, one more chance to do some unscheduled debugging. But having 
a profile with the bookmarks of sites needing Firefox and having the config 
option set makes sense and is nice and portable to another machine.




I do not have many extensions installed; but I would find surfing the
Web difficult without PrefBar, whose toolbar I use in place of
SeaMonkey's personal toolbar.

PrefBar comes with a preset list of spoofing user agent (UA) strings.  I
sometimes update that list when I actually see the UA string of a newer
version of Firefox or Internet Explorer.  Updating is simple.

My SeaMonkey extensions are
* Adblock Plus 1.1.3 (http://adblockplus.org/)
* DOM Inspector 2.0.4 (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/inspector/)
* Flashblock 1.3.16 (http://flashblock.mozdev.org/)
* Live HTTP headers 0.16
* PrefBar 5.0.2 (http://prefbar.mozdev.org/)
* Show Password On Input 0.1.3
(https://addons.mozilla.org/thunderbird/addon/6143/)

The DOM Inspector was delivered with SeaMonkey and not something I chose
to install.

I get along without them, but I did put your list in my notes in case I find a 
machine where the feature is required or desired by someone else.


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Re: blank page when reading pdf file

2010-04-07 Thread Walter



BeeNeR wrote:

On or about 4/6/2010 12:39 PM, Walter hatte gesagt:



Daniel wrote:

Walter wrote:

I click on a pdf file and adobe reader loads it ok. directly behind it
is a blank page. shouldn't it be the page from which I came? with the
link to the pdf page?
Walter.


Walter, it can be done either of two ways, one loading Adobe Reader as a
separate program and the other using Adobe Reader as a helper program to
load the page with-in SM.

Walter, have a look back through the posts here, and look for a thread
called Constant crash on PDF links about 5-6 days ago. Could have an
answer for you.

HTH

Daniel


Daniel,

I did look at the posts in constant crash on PDF links but did not
find the problem mentioned there. As I explained in my original post,
when I invoke the adobe reader then load the file I get NO blank page.
It is only when I click on the pdf file and SM calls adobe reader, then
the blank page is behind the pdf display.

By the way, this has showed up after I downloaded and installed SM 2.0.3.

walte.


Same here.  In the 1.x.x versions you had a choice Open in Browser or Open
in (program).  It seems as though the choice went away in 2.x.x.

When opening in (program) a blank page was displayed,  when opening in the
browser it appeared in the tab.





Strangely, I have discovered that if I go back to the page from which I 
came, (where I clicked on the pdf link) it will display that page as 
long as I have not xed the pdf page. After I x the pdf page, then the 
page from which I came (link to the pdf)  is now blank.


In checking the plugins, I find that adobe reader is the default reader 
of pdf files.


W.
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Re: Web Address History

2010-04-07 Thread chicagofan

Daniel wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:


Ever since I switched to SM 2.x, I get to see only two previous web
addresses in the browser screen. (down arrow under the web address
space).   I used to see a couple dozen.

Where can I change a setting to increase this?




This History list is only those web addresses that you have physically
entered into the browser address bar (not clicked on a link, used your
addressbook, whatever) and it is possible (I guess) that when you
installed SM 2 and it copied over your profile from SM 1, it didn't copy
over the History. Maybe not!

Daniel



That drop down list has never been useful to me in any version.  It does 
not show recent web sites visited, it shows old sites I haven't 
visited recently.  Is there any setting anywhere that I could change to 
make it show recent visits?


After re-reading your message, I think I have just answered my own 
question, because most of my visits come from a Google search entry, 
that returns a link which I click.


So now, my question is, why is this list limited to physically entered 
addresses?  Is it harder to keep up with visited sites [through links]?

bj
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Re: Web Address History

2010-04-07 Thread David E. Ross
On 4/7/10 10:16 AM, chicagofan wrote:
 Daniel wrote:
 JohnW-Mpls wrote:

 Ever since I switched to SM 2.x, I get to see only two previous web
 addresses in the browser screen. (down arrow under the web address
 space).   I used to see a couple dozen.

 Where can I change a setting to increase this?



 This History list is only those web addresses that you have physically
 entered into the browser address bar (not clicked on a link, used your
 addressbook, whatever) and it is possible (I guess) that when you
 installed SM 2 and it copied over your profile from SM 1, it didn't copy
 over the History. Maybe not!

 Daniel
 
 
 That drop down list has never been useful to me in any version.  It does 
 not show recent web sites visited, it shows old sites I haven't 
 visited recently.  Is there any setting anywhere that I could change to 
 make it show recent visits?
 
 After re-reading your message, I think I have just answered my own 
 question, because most of my visits come from a Google search entry, 
 that returns a link which I click.
 
 So now, my question is, why is this list limited to physically entered 
 addresses?  Is it harder to keep up with visited sites [through links]?
 bj

The list is very useful.  It allows me to revisit a URI for which I
don't have a link; instead, I originally typed in the URI.  The fewer
times I have to type a URI, the fewer typos I make.

If you want to see a history of URIs you recently visited -- both by
selecting links and also by typing in URIs -- either go to your menu bar
and select [Go  History] or else use Ctrl-H.  My History window is
sorted chronologically, but other sorts are possible.

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Re: Web Address History

2010-04-07 Thread JohnW-Mpls
On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 22:20:47 +1000, Daniel d...@albury.nospam.net.au
wrote:

JohnW-Mpls wrote:

 Ever since I switched to SM 2.x, I get to see only two previous web
 addresses in the browser screen. (down arrow under the web address
 space).   I used to see a couple dozen.

 Where can I change a setting to increase this?



This History list is only those web addresses that you have physically 
entered into the browser address bar (not clicked on a link, used your 
addressbook, whatever) and it is possible (I guess) that when you 
installed SM 2 and it copied over your profile from SM 1, it didn't copy 
over the History. Maybe not!

Daniel

First time I've seen a list of what inputs get shown below the browser
address bar.  I just now tested with a new manual URL entry and it
shows up as my 3rd previous address.  Thanks, Daniel,

My old SM1.x history did not get copied to SM2.x but I don't care. But
with not much showing after a couple weeks with 2.x, I thought
something was wrong.  Whatever; I'm happy now!

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Re: Creating HTML email messages

2010-04-07 Thread Jay Garcia
On 07.04.2010 11:32, Bill Davidsen wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 I have put a few examples up at http://www/~davidsen/Private/HTMLmail/

Care to try again, that link is invalid.

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inserting all e-mail addresses

2010-04-07 Thread John Cunniff

Hello, Everybody,

I got a very important question. I am a list owner of the LISTSERV(R) by 
L-Soft. I did REVIEW listname then, copied into my notepad to remove my 
list subscribers' name but e-mail addresses for me to insert into my 
Composition window. I tried to paste them all, but it failed to do the job.


My list is closing tomorrow so, I need to send to ALL subscribers 
IMPORTANT notice in a private e-mail, not on the soon-to-be-extincted 
list. Can you help me?


Thank you.
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Re: Preventing remote content from loading into forwarded message

2010-04-07 Thread flyguy

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

flyguy wrote:


I have my email set to Block images and other content from remote
sources. That works well; however, if I Forward the email, the
remote content is loaded. Is there any way to prevent that from
happening?


Forward as text-only.


My Forward button offers only Inline or Attachment - is there another 
way to do the Forward?


Also, I usually want to preserve the email's links so the person I'm 
sending it to can obtain the remote content if they wish to do so.


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Re: Preventing remote content from loading into forwarded message

2010-04-07 Thread flyguy

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

flyguy wrote:


I have my email set to Block images and other content from remote
sources. That works well; however, if I Forward the email, the
remote content is loaded. Is there any way to prevent that from
happening?


Or: break your Internet connection and Send Later. Then reestablish -- I
don't /think/ SM would load content for a message already composed, but
the experts will tell us.


Alright! That seemed to work: I click the little connector in the lower 
right, click Forward, then click the Send button (which now shows Send 
Later because the connection is open), click the little connector, 
click OK to the Send messages now dialog, and off it goes. When I 
received it at my other account, it still did not have the remote content.


A little clunky, but it works! Thanks!


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