Re: 2.8 problems
Jean Zebloski wrote: Rufusn...@home.com wrote : Jean Zebloski wrote: Since installing SM 2.8 I'm getting some problems. When I click a link in another program now, instead of popping up the SM window, it doesn't. SM goes to the link but I have to click the SM task bar icon to go to see it. Things also seem slower now too. Is 2.8 screwed up? That problem was there from SM 2.7 Mac also - bug #724293. If you use Spaces on a Mac you'll likely also notice that 2.8 doesn't shift to the SM Space or return to Open from Minimize either - bug #735946. I hadn't noticed it being slower, but I have gone back to 2.7.2 because of the above. How do I go back and still keep everything like my bookmarks and settings? On a Mac it's as simple as dragging and dropping the older 2.7.2 app to replace the newer 2.8 one...not sure about how you'd do it on a PC. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Extensions As Bug Work-Arounds
On 18/03/2012 9:29 AM, David E. Ross wrote: On 3/17/12 3:13 PM, Ray_Net wrote: David E. Ross wrote, On 17/03/2012 20:10: I have 18 extensions installed for SeaMonkey. Seven of them are installed only because various bug reports have not been fixed. The extensions and the related bugs are: snip And, no, extensions are not sufficient to solve a bug. An extension should be considered only a temporary work-around when there is a report of a software deficiency. I agree ... but ... In an ideal world, or with a product that you pay for. However when the work is being done by volunteers out of altruistic zeal you get what you pay for i.e. pay some one to implement your required fix or do it yourself. Mind you, a volunteer (individual or council) can still break things because they want to implement something else that is incompatible. But this happens with commercial products too. There are no easy solutions, however you may wish for them. djc [having read these discussions for years now] ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: stopping automatic updates
Larry S. wrote: Pat Connors wrote: How do I stop automatic updates? When 2.8 was updated, I couldn't get it to work so deleted it and downloaded 2.7.2 and got it to work without any problems. Wasted almost a whole day playing around. This morning I got up and turned on the computer and again, the 2.8 update was there. Luckily I knew what to do, not try to get 2.8 to work but delete it and get on IE and download 2.7.2 again. I don't want to go through this every morning...so need to stop the automatic updates. Is there anyone else, beside me who can't get 2.8 to open? EditPreferencesAdvancedSoftware InstallationUncheck Automatically download and install the update Not sure if your experience is the same, but I've had a problem with getting updates to work since somewhere in the 2.x series. Downloads and installs o.k., but when I X out of the opening Release Notes page I get a message XUL Runner--Couldn't read application.ini. SM is dead at that point, but downloading using IE (ugh!) delivers a working copy for me. Always save a copy of your profile, as this will save your sanity. Always save a copy of the installer for the previous version (in your present case 2.7.2) when you first get it, as this will save finding and downloading it again if you need it. HTH Larry SM 2.8 works for me, except the little problem of the cursor changing to indicate download action occurring when it's basically anywhere on the mail/NG screen, except for the message display area. Larry, why do you have to keep downloading SM 2.7.2 each time it updates to SM 2.8?? Why not download a full version of SM 2.7.2 onto your hard-drive, so if you have to re-install it, you already have a copy?? -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Moving SeaMonkey Data and/or Profile Files to a Different Drive
Larry S. wrote: Daniel wrote: Larry S. wrote: Daniel wrote: Larry S. wrote: Daniel wrote: Larry S. wrote: Daniel wrote: Frog wrote: I just finished going through a very traumatic event...having to replace my C Drive information with data from a September 11, 2011 backup. My biggest loss during this change was my SeaMonkey messages...bookmarks...addresses...and I'm sure more that I haven't noticed at this time. QUESTION Is it possible to move SeaMonkey data/profile files to a drive other than my C drive? I currently have all of SeaMonkey loaded on my C drive. My hard drive is partitioned into two drives--C and E. I would like to move the above mentioned information/files to my E drive that contains all of my other data files. How does one accomplish such a move without making a total wreck of my computer? Also, what are the pros and cons of making such a move? What happens when a new version is loaded on my computer? Any thoughts, recommendations, guidance, or simple how-to instructions will be greatly appreciated. Windows XP Pro SP3 SeaMonkey Version 2.7.2 Frog Yes, Frog, it isat one time I had my Windows set up so that C: only had Windows system stuff, D: had programs and E: had all my user stuff such as SeaMonkey Profile stuff. 1. Have a look at Edit-Mail Newsgroups Account Settings, and select Server Settings for your email accounts. This is where you profile is now. 2. Close SeaMonkey. 3. Use your File Manager to create a folder at the new location you want to have your profile. You may have noted your current profile location has something like drfbghy.default in its route, it is not necessary to have this, you could make the new location as simple as D:Profile or even just D: (not recommended). 4. Go to the location that currently has your profile 5. Copy everything from this location to the new location. 6. Restart SeaMonkey, select Tools-Manage Profiles-Manage Profile-Create Profile and, on the second screen, Give your new profile a distinctive names and then select Choose Folder and go to where you copied your profile to. Report back if you have any problems. This is half OT. I've had problems with the last several SM updates with the result that I wind up with a new profile which is missing all my saved data. Is there a way to recover a saved copy from an external HD and use it, without having to keep the external HD running all the time so the copy can be my other profile)? It should be blindingly obvious, but somehow I'm missing it. Advice greatly appreciated. Larry Yes, there is, Larry. e.g. SeaMonkey keeps your received emails in one file called inbox. There is also an index file called inbox.msf, which is not needed as a new one is created when needed. If you have an inbox file on your external drive, rename it so that it does not write over the top of your current inbox. In SeaMonkey, have a look at Edit-Mail Newsgroup Account Settings, select Server Settings on your Mail Account and note the Local Directory location. Under this location, you will find your current inbox. Copy your renamed inboxes to this location. Restart SeaMonkey, and you should now see all the additional inboxes in your mail profile. The new index files will be created when you access the new inboxes. HTH. Very helpful! That does let me recover any missing mail, but it doesn't keep me from having to recreate all my mail and news accounts from scratch before I copy the file. Guess there's no easy way to recover the entire profile. Bummer! Thank you for the advice, though, as I wouldn't have just instinctively known that. Larry Larry, when you say entire profile, what else do you mean?? What didn't you save on your back-ups?? Daniel . . . I mean a folder called 8ax81hjl.default, which resides in a Profiles folder which is in the SeaMonkey folder. It contains folders: Mail, News, bookmarkbackups, chrome, extensions, several others, plus around 50 or so other files. It's what I understand to be my entire profile. O.K, Larry, then you have a second profile available to SeaMonkey. In that case, have a look at Tools-Switch Profiles. How many profiles do you see listed?? If more than one, switch to the other(s) to see if they have mail that you want. If there is only one profile listed in Switch Profiles, click Manage Profiles and then Create Profiles, and on the next screen, give it a new name and then, also on that screen, click Choose Folder and point it to the 8ax81hjl.default folder. Click Finish and check out the contents of your new profile. HTH Only one profile shows. Good advice about adding the second profile, which in this case would be my backup. Remaining question: the backup is on an external HD. Is that copied to SM and renamed when I create the second profile? Or will I have to have the external HD running whenever I want to use that profile? Thanks for all your help. You have been a lifesaver (well, maybe sanity saver) for many on this newsgroup.
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Daniel wrote: Daniel wrote: NoOp wrote: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not occur when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same? Screenshot of what I am talking about is here: http://bayimg.com/HanAEaaDF Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 But also happens with the Windows version. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 SeaMonkey/2.8 Me Too! except the very top (Title??) bar that reads SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor - mozilla.support.seamonkey - Mozilla - SeaMonkey More detail.in the Header of a newsgroup post, on the Subject:, Date: and Newsgroups: lines my mouse icon shows as an Iron bar sign, on the From:, References: and Route: lines the mouse icon is a flashing arrow with clock iconexcept that whilst I have this Compose page open, the Icon, even on the full news group screen, is a normal arrow!!! Is this what someone else was referring to in one of the posts I've read this evening?? And here I am, with a perfectly working mouse icon.maybe it being a Sunday evening is having a good effect!! Anyone Else?? -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Zanqeutil wrote: Jens Hatlak schreef: Zanqeutil wrote: I'm back to Seamonkey 2.7.2 and everything is fine again, no more distracting wait-icon-cursors in the newsgroups. Well, isn't that a bit overreacting? You're jeopardizing your security for something as simple as a busy cursor. Let's compare: a) 2.7.x: exposed to 8 security issues only fixed in SM 2.8: https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey.html b) 2.8: busy cursor (wallpaper fix: toggle ui.use_activity_cursor in about:config). HTH Jens In SM 2.7.2 I have in about:config set 'ui.use_activity_cursor' to false After that I upgraded to SM 2.8 and no busy wait cursor in the newsgroups anymore. So thanks for this workaround. This solution was posted before in: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414 But that appeared today, before I uninstalled SM 2.8 yesterday night. So I did not know this solution. Don't visit bugzilla every day Regards, Zanqeutil Over the last couple of days, I have experienced the above cursor icon problem (no big problem for me), but tonight I do not have the problem, and I have not reverted to SM 2.7.2 or modified about:config!! It's just magic!! Aren't computers a wonderful thing?? -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Daniel wrote: Daniel wrote: Daniel wrote: NoOp wrote: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not occur when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same? Screenshot of what I am talking about is here: http://bayimg.com/HanAEaaDF Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 But also happens with the Windows version. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 SeaMonkey/2.8 Me Too! except the very top (Title??) bar that reads SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor - mozilla.support.seamonkey - Mozilla - SeaMonkey More detail.in the Header of a newsgroup post, on the Subject:, Date: and Newsgroups: lines my mouse icon shows as an Iron bar sign, on the From:, References: and Route: lines the mouse icon is a flashing arrow with clock iconexcept that whilst I have this Compose page open, the Icon, even on the full news group screen, is a normal arrow!!! Is this what someone else was referring to in one of the posts I've read this evening?? And here I am, with a perfectly working mouse icon.maybe it being a Sunday evening is having a good effect!! Anyone Else?? i had 2 mouses, but now only 1 uno cordless mouse 2 uno english (international) keyboard (with cord) 3 uno spanish cordless keyboard 4 uno microsoft vx1000 webcam 1-3 all logitech -- If I had any humility I would be perfect. -- Ted Turner [gerardjan@gershwin ~]$ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.8 problems
Jean Zebloski wrote: Rufusn...@home.com wrote : Jean Zebloski wrote: Since installing SM 2.8 I'm getting some problems. When I click a link in another program now, instead of popping up the SM window, it doesn't. SM goes to the link but I have to click the SM task bar icon to go to see it. Things also seem slower now too. Is 2.8 screwed up? That problem was there from SM 2.7 Mac also - bug #724293. If you use Spaces on a Mac you'll likely also notice that 2.8 doesn't shift to the SM Space or return to Open from Minimize either - bug #735946. I hadn't noticed it being slower, but I have gone back to 2.7.2 because of the above. How do I go back and still keep everything like my bookmarks and settings? Jean, from the header of your message, I cannot tell what operating system you are using, but I'm guessing Windows, so these should work. First things first.back-up your profile! In SeaMonkey, have a look at Edit-Mail Newsgroup Settings and select Server Settings for your e-mail accounts. At the bottom of this screen is your Local directory location. This is where your profile is stored. Make a copy of the profile or use a program called MozBackup to make a copy. NextDownload a copy of SM 2.7.2 from www.seamonkey-project.org. ThreeInstall SM 2.7.2 over the top of your current SM 2.8. To find where your SM 2.8 is installed, right click on your desktop icon and note the location listed under properties. Fourto connect to your profile, in SeaMonkey, select Tools-Switch Profiles-Manage Profiles-Create Profile, give it a name and, on the same screen, Choose Folder and point it to the folder (has a name something like efbj6hdb.default) that contains your old profile. Report back. -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Daniel wrote: Daniel wrote: Daniel wrote: NoOp wrote: Since updgrading from sM 2.7.x to 2.8, I notice in newsgroups that I get a 'wait icon' cursor when the cursor is anywhere outside of the message text body. Doesn't matter which newggroup/newserver, and does not occur when in the email window. Is anyone else experiencing the same? Screenshot of what I am talking about is here: http://bayimg.com/HanAEaaDF Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 But also happens with the Windows version. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 SeaMonkey/2.8 Me Too! except the very top (Title??) bar that reads SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor - mozilla.support.seamonkey - Mozilla - SeaMonkey More detail.in the Header of a newsgroup post, on the Subject:, Date: and Newsgroups: lines my mouse icon shows as an Iron bar sign, on the From:, References: and Route: lines the mouse icon is a flashing arrow with clock iconexcept that whilst I have this Compose page open, the Icon, even on the full news group screen, is a normal arrow!!! Is this what someone else was referring to in one of the posts I've read this evening?? And here I am, with a perfectly working mouse icon.maybe it being a Sunday evening is having a good effect!! Anyone Else?? And here it is Monday morning.and I'm back to the flashing icon...except in the message screen of Mail Newsgroup screen or in anywhere in this Compose screen! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Daniel wrote: Zanqeutil wrote: Jens Hatlak schreef: Zanqeutil wrote: I'm back to Seamonkey 2.7.2 and everything is fine again, no more distracting wait-icon-cursors in the newsgroups. Well, isn't that a bit overreacting? You're jeopardizing your security for something as simple as a busy cursor. Let's compare: a) 2.7.x: exposed to 8 security issues only fixed in SM 2.8: https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey.html b) 2.8: busy cursor (wallpaper fix: toggle ui.use_activity_cursor in about:config). HTH Jens In SM 2.7.2 I have in about:config set 'ui.use_activity_cursor' to false After that I upgraded to SM 2.8 and no busy wait cursor in the newsgroups anymore. So thanks for this workaround. This solution was posted before in: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414 But that appeared today, before I uninstalled SM 2.8 yesterday night. So I did not know this solution. Don't visit bugzilla every day Regards, Zanqeutil Over the last couple of days, I have experienced the above cursor icon problem (no big problem for me), but tonight I do not have the problem, and I have not reverted to SM 2.7.2 or modified about:config!! It's just magic!! Aren't computers a wonderful thing?? and now I'm back to the flashing cursor!! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: stopping automatic updates
Daniel wrote: Larry S. wrote: Pat Connors wrote: How do I stop automatic updates? When 2.8 was updated, I couldn't get it to work so deleted it and downloaded 2.7.2 and got it to work without any problems. Wasted almost a whole day playing around. This morning I got up and turned on the computer and again, the 2.8 update was there. Luckily I knew what to do, not try to get 2.8 to work but delete it and get on IE and download 2.7.2 again. I don't want to go through this every morning...so need to stop the automatic updates. Is there anyone else, beside me who can't get 2.8 to open? EditPreferencesAdvancedSoftware InstallationUncheck Automatically download and install the update Not sure if your experience is the same, but I've had a problem with getting updates to work since somewhere in the 2.x series. Downloads and installs o.k., but when I X out of the opening Release Notes page I get a message XUL Runner--Couldn't read application.ini. SM is dead at that point, but downloading using IE (ugh!) delivers a working copy for me. Always save a copy of your profile, as this will save your sanity. Always save a copy of the installer for the previous version (in your present case 2.7.2) when you first get it, as this will save finding and downloading it again if you need it. HTH Larry SM 2.8 works for me, except the little problem of the cursor changing to indicate download action occurring when it's basically anywhere on the mail/NG screen, except for the message display area. Larry, why do you have to keep downloading SM 2.7.2 each time it updates to SM 2.8?? Why not download a full version of SM 2.7.2 onto your hard-drive, so if you have to re-install it, you already have a copy?? Mostly, I don't. (The 2.7.2 to 2.8 reference was commenting on the experience of the previous poster.) My last several updates failed (see above), and when the failed upgrade was installed it eliminated the prior version. Guess if I wanted to keep the full version to go back to, I'd need to install the upgrade in a different location, but I rarely want to go back. The installer is just there as a last resort. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
Daniel wrote: Daniel wrote: Zanqeutil wrote: Jens Hatlak schreef: Zanqeutil wrote: I'm back to Seamonkey 2.7.2 and everything is fine again, no more distracting wait-icon-cursors in the newsgroups. Well, isn't that a bit overreacting? You're jeopardizing your security for something as simple as a busy cursor. Let's compare: a) 2.7.x: exposed to 8 security issues only fixed in SM 2.8: https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey.html b) 2.8: busy cursor (wallpaper fix: toggle ui.use_activity_cursor in about:config). HTH Jens In SM 2.7.2 I have in about:config set 'ui.use_activity_cursor' to false After that I upgraded to SM 2.8 and no busy wait cursor in the newsgroups anymore. So thanks for this workaround. This solution was posted before in: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414 But that appeared today, before I uninstalled SM 2.8 yesterday night. So I did not know this solution. Don't visit bugzilla every day Regards, Zanqeutil Over the last couple of days, I have experienced the above cursor icon problem (no big problem for me), but tonight I do not have the problem, and I have not reverted to SM 2.7.2 or modified about:config!! It's just magic!! Aren't computers a wonderful thing?? and now I'm back to the flashing cursor!! Using SM 2.8 and Windows XP Pro 32 bit I toggled ui.use_activity_cursor in about:config from true to false and have no flashing cursor since, but then it is only Sunday morning here for me in Nebraska,USA. -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: my bad, my bad
Walter wrote: Walter wrote: Walter wrote: W3BNR wrote: On 3/15/2012 12:11 PM Walter submitted the following: Equipment: HP desktop, Win 7, 6 gb memory, 750 gb hard drive, SM 2.7.2 Several months ago I found and used a program/plugin to print my password file with passwords in the clear. Since then I have added more passwords and changed some. OK, I will run that program again, says I. Not so easy, what was name of it and where did I get it? Never fear, Google knows. Thing is, Google knows too much so I don't know which program/plugin I used. One of the Google finds was LastPass, the so-touted answer to all my questions and needs. OK, load and run. Somewhere in the options there must be a way to do what I need but I can't find it. I try this-n-that and end up with a big mess with SM mail and newsgroups asking for a password every time I try to access either one. I check the settings for e-mail and newsgroups and do not find any obvious problems. Use workaround by entering passwords to get to mail and newsgroups. Even now, I get a request about every 10 minutes asking for a password for news server access. No matter what I enter, (or nothing,) it is accepted and things go on. Two e-mail accounts, xxx@localtvserver and xxx@gmail Two newsgroup accts, m.s.seamonkey and news.eternal-september.org I know the above is rather long and possibly very confusing but I need help and advice, thanking all in advance. Walter. Go to: http://the-edmeister.com/firefox_info/articles/List_Firefox-3_Passwords.htm Save the page. Open the saved page in your browser. It works with SM 2.8 That is it! Now my problem is that there are only 4 domains there with their passwords. What did I do to lose the rest of them? David, I will try your suggestion later. The grocery store calls. w OK, now I have lost those four. I am hopelessly lost in a sea of 0s and 1s. Would it do any good to do a system restore from a couple of weeks back while doing a Ccleaner? w To continue this saga: I reloaded and installed FastPass and this time I carefully read the instruction book to try to understand where I went wrong the first time. I did import the file with passwords, etc. and found that most of the data that I need is there, along with duplicates which I deleted. As I understood the instructions, now I can upload this file via Firefox and all will be well. I went in circles a few rounds and never found the place to click to actually import the data via FIrefox to the SM file. Another option was to print the file but again I never found the place to click to do that. Any FastPass users in this group who could hold my hand in this problem, suggesting where I went wrong again? w OK, no responses so I will consider this topic closed to responses. In the meantime I will continue to do research and some day might come across a way to get my passwords back. Thanks to the ones who did respond. w ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
[Workaround Found] Re: SM 2.8 + Newsgroup Cursor
On 03/17/2012 10:04 AM, Jens Hatlak wrote: ... b) 2.8: busy cursor (wallpaper fix: toggle ui.use_activity_cursor in about:config). https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=727414 [Bug 727414 - Busy cursor in thread and folderpane while reading news (ui.use_activity_cursor = true) ] Setting 'ui.use_activity_cursor' to false works for me. I've added comments to the bug report. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.8 problems
Daniel d...@albury.nospam.net.au wrote : Jean Zebloski wrote: Rufusn...@home.com wrote : Jean Zebloski wrote: Since installing SM 2.8 I'm getting some problems. When I click a link in another program now, instead of popping up the SM window, it doesn't. SM goes to the link but I have to click the SM task bar icon to go to see it. Things also seem slower now too. Is 2.8 screwed up? That problem was there from SM 2.7 Mac also - bug #724293. If you use Spaces on a Mac you'll likely also notice that 2.8 doesn't shift to the SM Space or return to Open from Minimize either - bug #735946. I hadn't noticed it being slower, but I have gone back to 2.7.2 because of the above. How do I go back and still keep everything like my bookmarks and settings? Jean, from the header of your message, I cannot tell what operating system you are using, but I'm guessing Windows, so these should work. Yeah, Win 7, sorry for not saying. First things first.back-up your profile! In SeaMonkey, have a look at Edit-Mail Newsgroup Settings and select Server Settings for your e-mail accounts. At the bottom of this screen is your Local directory location. This is where your profile is stored. Make a copy of the profile or use a program called MozBackup to make a copy. NextDownload a copy of SM 2.7.2 from www.seamonkey-project.org. I just went this far and ran the install and it appears to have worked fine, thanks! Came right up after the install with all my saved toolbar tabs, latest bookmarks and everyhing. THANK YOU Dan! ThreeInstall SM 2.7.2 over the top of your current SM 2.8. To find where your SM 2.8 is installed, right click on your desktop icon and note the location listed under properties. Fourto connect to your profile, in SeaMonkey, select Tools-Switch Profiles-Manage Profiles-Create Profile, give it a name and, on the same screen, Choose Folder and point it to the folder (has a name something like efbj6hdb.default) that contains your old profile. Report back. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Where are all the files
Windows 7 Seamonkey 2.8 Where are the things like the address books, email files, bookmarks, etc., being kept now? Lisa ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where are all the files
Lisa Wiser wrote: Windows 7 Seamonkey 2.8 Where are the things like the address books, email files, bookmarks, etc., being kept now? Lisa They are stored under the profile directory, which on Windows 7 by default is located in c:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\RANDOM.default. Bookmarks are in a sqlite database places.sqlite. Mail and news are in directories under the profile directory. Jim ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where are all the files
Jim Taylor wrote: Lisa Wiser wrote: Windows 7 Seamonkey 2.8 Where are the things like the address books, email files, bookmarks, etc., being kept now? Lisa They are stored under the profile directory, which on Windows 7 by default is located in c:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\RANDOM.default. Bookmarks are in a sqlite database places.sqlite. Mail and news are in directories under the profile directory. Jim Thanks, Jim, that's where I expected them to be ... but ... I don't seem to have a directory under USERNAME (which is LISA) called \AppData\. Could it be hidden? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where are all the files
On 03/18/2012 01:30 PM, Lisa Wiser wrote: Windows 7 Seamonkey 2.8 Where are the things like the address books, email files, bookmarks, etc., being kept now? Lisa http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/profiles Windows Vista, Windows 7 Users\UserName\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where are all the files
On 03/18/2012 02:01 PM, Lisa Wiser wrote: Jim Taylor wrote: Lisa Wiser wrote: Windows 7 Seamonkey 2.8 Where are the things like the address books, email files, bookmarks, etc., being kept now? Lisa They are stored under the profile directory, which on Windows 7 by default is located in c:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\RANDOM.default. Bookmarks are in a sqlite database places.sqlite. Mail and news are in directories under the profile directory. Jim Thanks, Jim, that's where I expected them to be ... but ... I don't seem to have a directory under USERNAME (which is LISA) called \AppData\. Could it be hidden? Help|Troubleshooting Information|Application Basics|Profile Directory - click on 'Open Containing Folder'. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Extensions As Bug Work-Arounds
Interviewed by CNN on 17/03/2012 20:29, David E. Ross told the world: And, no, extensions are not sufficient to solve a bug. An extension should be considered only a temporary work-around when there is a report of a software deficiency. It depends on the software deficiency. If only one in a thousand users, say, considers it a deficiency, it makes more sense to provide this extra functionality as an extension, in order to keep from bloating the basic product. Generally speaking, all features cost /something/. There's a development cost, there's a support cost, there's a download size cost, there's a memory footprint cost, there's a performance cost, there's a UI bloat cost. Managing those costs is part of the product development. And sometimes users may have a disagreement with the dev team on whether the benefits of including a feature offset its costs. For instance, during my old BBS days, pre-Internet, I used a message reader called Blue Wave. It had a very nice built-in tagline management feature. When I moved to the Internet, I was surprised to find out that e-mail clients didn't include this feature. It wasn't a deal-breaker, but I really missed it. However, I came to realize that most users didn't care (even in my BBS days most users never fiddled with that feature). It didn't make sense to bloat the program and the UI with a seldom-used feature. Eventually, I found an extension that supplied the missing functionality. I have been using it since. It works for me and doesn't bloat the program for the 99+% other users who don't care for taglines. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Total Lack of Social Skills. * Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.8 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where are all the files
Interviewed by CNN on 18/03/2012 18:01, Lisa Wiser told the world: Thanks, Jim, that's where I expected them to be ... but ... I don't seem to have a directory under USERNAME (which is LISA) called \AppData\. Could it be hidden? Yes. You can make it appear either by: - Enabling viewing hidden folders in Explorer at Organize/Folder and Search Options/View, - Or, for a one-time thing, type %APPDATA% on the address bar. It will take you to the c:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming folder. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my U.S. Robotics Pilot 100. * Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.8 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where are all the files
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 18/03/2012 18:01, Lisa Wiser told the world: Thanks, Jim, that's where I expected them to be ... but ... I don't seem to have a directory underUSERNAME (which isLISA) called \AppData\. Could it be hidden? Yes. You can make it appear either by: - Enabling viewing hidden folders in Explorer at Organize/Folder and Search Options/View, - Or, for a one-time thing, type %APPDATA% on the address bar. It will take you to the c:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming folder. Well -- said show all folders and it's not there. Tried the %appdata% and it didn't find it. What's the name of the Personal contact file? Maybe I can do a search on that. I tried doing a Search on APPDATA and it showed me things under WINDOWS. This is very strange. Thanks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Where are all the files
On 12-03-18 7:34 PM, Lisa Wiser wrote: Well -- said show all folders and it's not there. Tried the %appdata% and it didn't find it. What's the name of the Personal contact file? Maybe I can do a search on that. I tried doing a Search on APPDATA and it showed me things under WINDOWS. This is very strange. This page should answer all your questions, and enable you to find the data without searching: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Extensions As Bug Work-Arounds
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 17/03/2012 20:29, David E. Ross told the world: And, no, extensions are not sufficient to solve a bug. An extension should be considered only a temporary work-around when there is a report of a software deficiency. ...the key to what you say here is functionality - if it's a new feature, or a custom implementation, then yeah. An add-on solution is fine. But if it's *broken*, it's *broken* and if you can code an add-on to fix something that's actually broken, one would think you just as well fix that part of the baseline code - even if it took a couple release cycles. Otherwise the workaround becomes just an excuse for inaction. It depends on the software deficiency. If only one in a thousand users, say, considers it a deficiency, it makes more sense to provide this extra functionality as an extension, in order to keep from bloating the basic product. Defect would be a better word to use - if it worked before but doesn't now, it's a defect and should/must be fixed. If it simply doesn't work the way someone would *like* it to work, well, one man's deficiency is another man's feature and open for debate. Generally speaking, all features cost /something/. There's a development cost, there's a support cost, there's a download size cost, there's a memory footprint cost, there's a performance cost, there's a UI bloat cost. Managing those costs is part of the product development. And sometimes users may have a disagreement with the dev team on whether the benefits of including a feature offset its costs. Fixing genuine bugs (defects as defined above) should only incur support costs - any growth in the code because of that is just evolution. What it sounds like you are saying is that managing cost by ignoring defects is a viable and working option... For instance, during my old BBS days, pre-Internet, I used a message reader called Blue Wave. It had a very nice built-in tagline management feature. When I moved to the Internet, I was surprised to find out that e-mail clients didn't include this feature. It wasn't a deal-breaker, but I really missed it. Price of progress... However, I came to realize that most users didn't care (even in my BBS days most users never fiddled with that feature). It didn't make sense to bloat the program and the UI with a seldom-used feature. Which is again, isn't/wasn't a defect... Eventually, I found an extension that supplied the missing functionality. I have been using it since. It works for me and doesn't bloat the program for the 99+% other users who don't care for taglines. And that's great...but in this instance you're talking about a feature of one package you'd have liked to see in another one. You probably should have had zero expectation of that happening in the first place. But if you'd returned to Blue Wave and seen the feature broken, then yeah - you'd be right to complain. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
