Re: Can't reach some websites

[Hartmut Figge]

Hartmut Figge:

>Works with my SM-2.53.1. A video did not not, due to
  ^^^
Hm, *g*. On a pure NG I would have superseded this error, but there is
AFAIK a connection to a ML, so it would not help.

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Re: Can't reach some websites

[Hartmut Figge]

Paul B. Gallagher:

>I can't see anything at all on the Huskers site, other than the footer. 
>The rest of the page is blank.

Works with my SM-2.53.1. A video did not not, due to

JavaScript warning:
https://sports.cbsimg.net/js/CBSi/app/VideoPlayer/Client-min-v0330.js,
line 1: unreachable code after return statement

>I'm also having trouble with nhl.com, ...

Works too, but requires 'Advertise Firefox compatibility'. Leads to a
Login where you can buy content. I didn't do that so I don't know what
would happen afterwards. ;)

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Re: Can't reach some websites

[Paul B. Gallagher]

JAS wrote:

When I go to https://www.choicehotels.com/?sid=R7fK.HOsi0gArCg.4 my 
browsers freezes and I get a script error=never used to and going to the 
Hilton site and trying to sign in the Captcha just keeps repeating over 
and over no matter if I am correct --can't used either site with 
Seamonkey 2.49.4 I can not watch streaming on https://huskers.com/


I can't see anything at all on the Huskers site, other than the footer. 
The rest of the page is blank.


I'm also having trouble with nhl.com, but IE 11 has similar trouble. On 
SM 2.49.5, I get a nearly blank page (a couple of plain-text menu items 
on the left and scores across the top). On IE 11 I get the main page OK, 
but all videos turn to a plain black panel with no controls when I hit 
the play button. Disabling AdBlock Plus doesn't help, nor does clearing 
cache and cookies. On the other hand, my NHL team sucks, so it hardly 
matters.


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Re: Can't reach some websites

[JAS]

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2019-11-01 2:02 p.m., Paul B. Gallagher wrote:








As per , 
Paul's post was removed from the news server because it contains a 
personal attack.


When I go to https://www.choicehotels.com/?sid=R7fK.HOsi0gArCg.4 my 
browsers freezes and I get a script error=never used to and going to the 
Hilton site and trying to sign in the Captcha just keeps repeating over 
and over no matter if I am correct --can't used either site with 
Seamonkey 2.49.4 I can not watch streaming on https://huskers.com/

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Re: Can't reach some websites

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Chris Ilias wrote:


On 2019-11-01 2:02 p.m., Paul B. Gallagher wrote:








As per , 
Paul's post was removed from the news server because it contains a 
personal attack.


In your dreams.

Or is that a personal attack too?

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Re: Can't reach some websites

[Chris Ilias]

On 2019-11-01 2:02 p.m., Paul B. Gallagher wrote:








As per , 
Paul's post was removed from the news server because it contains a 
personal attack.


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Re: Can't reach some websites

[NFN Smith]

Nuno Silva wrote:

Could it be a clock sync problem? Your clock seems to be set to
2019-11-30, not 2019-10-30. That would explain the "out-of-date".


I think that the clock is the most likely issue, especially if the site 
that OP is trying to connect to is a financial provider.  Inaccurate 
clocks are disruptive of some services (including certs), and financial 
institutions are especially sensitive in that area.


For what it is worth, I have a Linux box that I have in a virtual 
machine, and I don't have it active often.  On occasions when I start it 
up and try to update the packages list from repositories, I sometimes 
see all sorts of errors about invalid certs (similar to what's been 
mentioned).  On closer inspection, the problem always comes from this VM 
not keeping time well when it's inactive, and where the calendar is 
weeks off, usually behind.  As soon as I get the calendar showing the 
correct time, then there's no problems.


With a full computer (rather than virtual machine, as I've described 
here), historically, the most common reason for a clock problem is a 
CMOS battery that's nearly out of power.  That battery is what allows 
your BIOS to maintain system configuration when the power is off, and 
that includes the system clock as well.  It's been years since I've seen 
that kind of problem, and I think it's pretty rare on modern machines 
(especially ones with UEFI rather than BIOS), but it's not impossible, 
either.


In any case, this is illustrative of why it's essential to have your 
system clock that's accurate, within a few seconds.(And why most modern 
computers make regular checks with time servers).


Smith

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Re: Can't reach some websites

[Rink]

Op 1-11-2019 om 18:53 schreef Chris Ilias:

On 2019-12-02 10:43 a.m., Jeffry Wisnia wrote:


Well, my clock now says 11-01-19. I'll see what happens now.


Hi Jeffry,
According to the timestamp on your latest post, your clock is still a 
month ahead. There are instructions for this issue for Windows 7 users 
at 
. 


They should for SeaMonkey as well.

Windows XP instructions are gone. :)



Jeffry,

Your clock is probably under in your screen in the right corner.
Click one time (or maybe double click) on the clock, it opens and you 
can set the date and time.


On my Windows7 PC I can synchronize the clock with the internet time
(my PC synchronizes with 'time.windows.com')
If you do that, it automatically change the winter time in summer time 
in march (and the other way in october).



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Re: Can't reach some websites

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Chris Ilias wrote:


On 2019-12-02 10:43 a.m., Jeffry Wisnia wrote:


Well, my clock now says 11-01-19. I'll see what happens now.


Hi Jeffry,
According to the timestamp on your latest post, your clock is still a 
month ahead. There are instructions for this issue for Windows 7 users 
at 
. 


They should for SeaMonkey as well.

Windows XP instructions are gone. :)


Well, this isn't rocket science. If he can't figure out how to set the 
clock, he shouldn't be running a computer. There are assisted-living 
facilities for such people.


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Re: Can't reach some websites

[Chris Ilias]

On 2019-12-02 10:43 a.m., Jeffry Wisnia wrote:


Well, my clock now says 11-01-19. I'll see what happens now.


Hi Jeffry,
According to the timestamp on your latest post, your clock is still a 
month ahead. There are instructions for this issue for Windows 7 users 
at 
.

They should for SeaMonkey as well.

Windows XP instructions are gone. :)

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Re: Can't reach some websites

[Rink]

Op 2-12-2019 om 16:43 schreef Jeffry Wisnia:

Lee wrote:

On 10/30/19, Nuno Silva  wrote:

On 2019-11-30, Jeffry Wisnia wrote:


Suddenly I'm seeing just a page with the message below when trying to
open just a couple of websites I've reached for years using SeaMonkey
and Windows XP. Other websites open normally.

The message I get is:
*
Secure Connection Failed
An error occurred during a connection to www.td.com.
The OCSP response contains out-of-date information.
Error code: SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE
The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the
authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
 Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
*
What's this mean and how do I fix it? Thanks.


Could it be a clock sync problem? Your clock seems to be set to
2019-11-30, not 2019-10-30. That would explain the "out-of-date".


Good catch.  I get the same error if I set the date forward a month

Lee


Well, my clock now says 11-01-19. I'll see what happens now.

Thanks to All




Message from the future ??
You wrote this at 2 december 2019?

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Re: Can't reach some websites

[Jeffry Wisnia]

Lee wrote:

On 10/30/19, Nuno Silva  wrote:

On 2019-11-30, Jeffry Wisnia wrote:


Suddenly I'm seeing just a page with the message below when trying to
open just a couple of websites I've reached for years using SeaMonkey
and Windows XP. Other websites open normally.

The message I get is:
*
Secure Connection Failed
An error occurred during a connection to www.td.com.
The OCSP response contains out-of-date information.
Error code: SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE
The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the
authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
 Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
*
What's this mean and how do I fix it? Thanks.


Could it be a clock sync problem? Your clock seems to be set to
2019-11-30, not 2019-10-30. That would explain the "out-of-date".


Good catch.  I get the same error if I set the date forward a month

Lee


Well, my clock now says 11-01-19. I'll see what happens now.

Thanks to All

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Re: Can't reach some websites

[Lee]

On 10/30/19, Nuno Silva  wrote:
> On 2019-11-30, Jeffry Wisnia wrote:
>
>> Suddenly I'm seeing just a page with the message below when trying to
>> open just a couple of websites I've reached for years using SeaMonkey
>> and Windows XP. Other websites open normally.
>>
>> The message I get is:
>> *
>> Secure Connection Failed
>> An error occurred during a connection to www.td.com.
>> The OCSP response contains out-of-date information.
>> Error code: > title="SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE">SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE
>> The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the
>> authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
>> Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
>> *
>> What's this mean and how do I fix it? Thanks.
>
> Could it be a clock sync problem? Your clock seems to be set to
> 2019-11-30, not 2019-10-30. That would explain the "out-of-date".

Good catch.  I get the same error if I set the date forward a month

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Re: Can't reach some websites

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Jeffry Wisnia wrote:


Lee wrote:

pingwww.td.com


When I tried that I ended up at:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=https%3A%2F%2Fping+www.td.com%2F=seamonkey=web 



Which doesen't mean much to me.


That's not what he said:


Try doing 'ping www.td.com' ***from the command prompt*** and see
what IP address you get

Emphasis mine. Key error here: you didn't do it from a command prompt.

On Windows, press the Windows key, then "R" and enter "cmd" in the input 
window, hit Enter.


In the window that opens, type "ping www.td.com" WITH a space and 
WITHOUT the quotation marks. Hit Enter. When I do it, I get:


Pinging e307.b.akamaiedge.net [173.223.16.47] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 173.223.16.47: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=59
Reply from 173.223.16.47: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=59
Reply from 173.223.16.47: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=59
Reply from 173.223.16.47: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=59

Ping statistics for 173.223.16.47:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 10ms, Maximum = 16ms, Average = 13ms

How about you?

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Re: Can't reach some websites

[Jeffry Wisnia]

Lee wrote:

pingwww.td.com


When I tried that I ended up at:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=https%3A%2F%2Fping+www.td.com%2F=seamonkey=web

Which doesen't mean much to me.
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Re: Can't reach some websites

[Nuno Silva]

On 2019-11-30, Jeffry Wisnia wrote:

> Suddenly I'm seeing just a page with the message below when trying to
> open just a couple of websites I've reached for years using SeaMonkey
> and Windows XP. Other websites open normally.
>
> The message I get is:
> *
> Secure Connection Failed
> An error occurred during a connection to www.td.com.
> The OCSP response contains out-of-date information.
> Error code:  title="SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE">SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE
> The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the
> authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
> Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
> *
> What's this mean and how do I fix it? Thanks.

Could it be a clock sync problem? Your clock seems to be set to
2019-11-30, not 2019-10-30. That would explain the "out-of-date".

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Re: Can't reach some websites

[Lee]

On 11/30/19, Jeffry Wisnia  wrote:
>
> When the OCSP boxes are checked I can't reach the website. If I uncheck
> them I can.

The benign explanation would be that it's an akami issue:
$ dig www.td.com.
   <.. snip ..>
;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.td.com. 300 IN  CNAME   www.td.com.edgekey.net.
www.td.com.edgekey.net. 900 IN  CNAME   e307.b.akamaiedge.net.
e307.b.akamaiedge.net.  300 IN  A   104.98.162.157

which would explain why you get an ocsp error & I don't - we're not
hitting the same server.  Try doing 'ping www.td.com' from the command
prompt and see what IP address you get..

fwiw I wouldn't risk signing in until everything is fixed.

Lee

>
>
> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>> Jeffry Wisnia wrote:
>>
>>> Suddenly I'm seeing just a page with the message below when trying to
>>> open just a couple of websites I've reached for years using SeaMonkey
>>> and Windows XP. Other websites open normally.
>>
>> I have no problem reaching the linked site; it automatically redirects
>> to . If others can reach it
>> too, the problem is probably local.
>>
>> What are your settings at Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security |
>> Certificates? I have both OCSP boxes checked and it doesn't prevent me
>> from accessing the site.
>>
>>>
>>> The message I get is:
>>> *
>>> Secure Connection Failed
>>> An error occurred during a connection to www.td.com.
>>> The OCSP response contains out-of-date information.
>>> Error code: >> title="SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE">SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE
>>> The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the
>>> authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
>>>  Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
>>> *
>>> What's this mean and how do I fix it? Thanks.
>>
>>
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Re: Can't reach some websites

[Jeffry Wisnia]

When the OCSP boxes are checked I can't reach the website. If I uncheck 
them I can.



Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Jeffry Wisnia wrote:

Suddenly I'm seeing just a page with the message below when trying to 
open just a couple of websites I've reached for years using SeaMonkey 
and Windows XP. Other websites open normally.


I have no problem reaching the linked site; it automatically redirects 
to . If others can reach it 
too, the problem is probably local.


What are your settings at Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | 
Certificates? I have both OCSP boxes checked and it doesn't prevent me 
from accessing the site.




The message I get is:
*
Secure Connection Failed
An error occurred during a connection to www.td.com.
The OCSP response contains out-of-date information.
Error code: title="SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE">SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE
The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the 
authenticity of the received data could not be verified.

 Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
*
What's this mean and how do I fix it? Thanks.





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Re: Can't reach some websites

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Jeffry Wisnia wrote:

Suddenly I'm seeing just a page with the message below when trying to 
open just a couple of websites I've reached for years using SeaMonkey 
and Windows XP. Other websites open normally.


I have no problem reaching the linked site; it automatically redirects 
to . If others can reach it 
too, the problem is probably local.


What are your settings at Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | 
Certificates? I have both OCSP boxes checked and it doesn't prevent me 
from accessing the site.




The message I get is:
*
Secure Connection Failed
An error occurred during a connection to www.td.com.
The OCSP response contains out-of-date information.
Error code: title="SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE">SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE
The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity 
of the received data could not be verified.

     Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
*
What's this mean and how do I fix it? Thanks.



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Re: Can't reach some websites

[David E. Ross]

On 11/30/2019 11:03 AM, Jeffry Wisnia wrote:
> Suddenly I'm seeing just a page with the message below when trying to 
> open just a couple of websites I've reached for years using SeaMonkey 
> and Windows XP. Other websites open normally.
> 
> The message I get is:
> *
> Secure Connection Failed
> An error occurred during a connection to www.td.com.
> The OCSP response contains out-of-date information.
> Error code:  title="SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE">SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE
> The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity 
> of the received data could not be verified.
>  Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
> *
> What's this mean and how do I fix it? Thanks.
> 

This indicates that a secure HTTP connection could not be established
with the Web server.  There are two things you might try.

1.  Using a WhoIs Web site or application, locate a contact E-mail
address for the domain, best if a technical administrator.  Send an
E-mail with a diplomatic complaint, including the error message.  This
is the most safe way to handle the problem.

2.  Disable OCSP checking.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit >
Preferences].  On the left side of the Preferences window, select
[Privacy & Security > Certificates].  On the Certificates pane, uncheck
the 2nd checkbox under OCSP.  This is NOT really a safe way to handle
the problem.  If you are really sure you are requesting the real Web
site, however, this is the most quick way to handle it.

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Re: Can't reach some websites

[Lee]

On 11/30/19, Jeffry Wisnia  wrote:
> Suddenly I'm seeing just a page with the message below when trying to
> open just a couple of websites I've reached for years using SeaMonkey
> and Windows XP. Other websites open normally.
>
> The message I get is:
> *
> Secure Connection Failed
> An error occurred during a connection to www.td.com.
> The OCSP response contains out-of-date information.
> Error code:  title="SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE">SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE
> The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity
> of the received data could not be verified.
>  Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
> *
> What's this mean and how do I fix it? Thanks.

Probably that the certificate authority OCSP server is having problems.

Edit / Preferences / Privacy & Security / Certificates
remove the checkmark next to
  When an OCSP server connection fails, treat the certificate as invalid

Altho it's probably a bad idea to turn off cert checking if you're
doing anything with your bank or credit card...  and considering
td.com is a bank & I just tried it and _didn't_ get an error I'd
strongly advise you not to change anything.  Give them a call and/or
wait & try again later.

Regards,
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Can't reach some websites

[Jeffry Wisnia]

Suddenly I'm seeing just a page with the message below when trying to 
open just a couple of websites I've reached for years using SeaMonkey 
and Windows XP. Other websites open normally.


The message I get is:
*
Secure Connection Failed
An error occurred during a connection to www.td.com.
The OCSP response contains out-of-date information.
Error code: title="SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE">SEC_ERROR_OCSP_OLD_RESPONSE
The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity 
of the received data could not be verified.

Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.
*
What's this mean and how do I fix it? Thanks.
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