Re: Can't get mail again
Albert M. Simon wrote: Once again apparent auto updated to 2.20 and again cannot access mail. Whazzap? Why is this happening? Albert, have you turned the computer on?? ;-) What is happening when you try to get your mail?? Can you browse?? From the information you've supplied, it is difficult to provide a useful answer. -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130418192405 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:23.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.20 Build identifier: 20130709211044 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Can't get mail again
Once again apparent auto updated to 2.20 and again cannot access mail. Whazzap? Why is this happening? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can't get mail
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: snip Oh, and check your firewall to make sure you haven't blocked yourself. That's not a bad suggestionwouldn't be the first time that an overnight update (from SM 2.0.5 to SM 2.0.6 for example) has caused a firewall to think this is an un-authorised program trying to access the internet to phone home!! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can't get mail
L.D. wrote: NoOp My port incoming was 25 and SSL/TLS was none My outgoing port was 110 I made your recommended changes, it now works. Did my settings change. If they did I didn't change them and it has been working for several years. Thanks very much L.D. More likely, we all find that the various services we use are and have changed their server settings such as ports, Email settings, et al quite a bit. Hence, it may not always be that our local computer settings or the local software settings have worked for sometimes years, then suddenly no more; it may well be that the remote Email and other servers have and are changing their settings, usually in response to changing standards, server attacks or general security, etc, etc. Joe WindowGroup/Knoxville TN ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can't get mail
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I click on the email and the little progression on bottom of right starts as normal but goes and goes. I click get mail and get message saying something like busy processing mail please wait. Then in a while it gets message saying timed out. It may say connection failed timed out. It started getting a little slower a few days ago but just quit this morning. I have changed nothing. I'd suggest you first check your mail settings under Accounts. If they all look to be proper, call your ISP's support group. I am surprised I can send and receive messages on this NG News is a completely different process and protocol. until ie comes to send unsent messages then BOTH are treated the same, What does IE have to do with SeaMonkey? That was an un-reviewed typo! but since the newsgroups have not been opened, unsent news postings generate a (correct) error message. Should unsent news be differentiated from unsend email? I don't understand the point you are trying to make. But yes, news and email is completely different. Send Unsent in SM does not differentiate - I propose it should. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can't get mail
Rick Merrill wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Rick Merrill wrote: until ie comes to send unsent messages then BOTH are treated the same, What does IE have to do with SeaMonkey? That was an un-reviewed typo! Ah! :-) Later I thought you meant the Latin term i.e. (id est — that is), but wasn't sure. but since the newsgroups have not been opened, unsent news postings generate a (correct) error message. Should unsent news be differentiated from unsend email? I don't understand the point you are trying to make. But yes, news and email is completely different. Send Unsent in SM does not differentiate - I propose it should. I see. Sounds reasonable to me. But I am not a send later person, and so would find no reason for that. However, it may be useful to a person who works offline, then later sends en masse. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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This morning my seamonkey email times out. any ideas ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can't get mail
Do you mean that while you are trying to send or receive
E-mail SM tries and fails without an error message?
Or is your SM E-mail failing to connect at all but gives
no error message?
ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
This morning my seamonkey email times out. any ideas
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Re: can't get mail
I click on the email and the little progression on bottom of right starts as normal but goes and goes. I click get mail and get message saying something like busy processing mail please wait. Then in a while it gets message saying timed out. It may say connection failed timed out. It started getting a little slower a few days ago but just quit this morning. I have changed nothing. I am surprised I can send and receive messages on this NG d...@kd4e.com wrote: Do you mean that while you are trying to send or receive E-mail SM tries and fails without an error message? Or is your SM E-mail failing to connect at all but gives no error message? ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: This morning my seamonkey email times out. any ideas ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can't get mail
ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I click on the email and the little progression on bottom of right starts as normal but goes and goes. I click get mail and get message saying something like busy processing mail please wait. Then in a while it gets message saying timed out. It may say connection failed timed out. It started getting a little slower a few days ago but just quit this morning. I have changed nothing. I'd suggest you first check your mail settings under Accounts. If they all look to be proper, call your ISP's support group. I am surprised I can send and receive messages on this NG News is a completely different process and protocol. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can't get mail
I did call my ISP and got T'ed off. They said they don't support Seamonkey. When I did some questioning she said they weren't trained for seamonkey and could give me over to someone who could and ask if I wanted that. Is said of course. When I got there it was a charge for the support. Then I got T'ed again and ask for a supervisor. He said there is a charge for this support. I said, I was told 5 years ago support is free. OH I don't know I guess they hire folks that don't know nothing then when they can't support you they send you to the ones how can but charge. Back to your question I suppose all settings are correct, who or why would they have changed since yesterday. Apparently ATT tech support don't know. I guess I'm left hanging out. Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I click on the email and the little progression on bottom of right starts as normal but goes and goes. I click get mail and get message saying something like busy processing mail please wait. Then in a while it gets message saying timed out. It may say connection failed timed out. It started getting a little slower a few days ago but just quit this morning. I have changed nothing. I'd suggest you first check your mail settings under Accounts. If they all look to be proper, call your ISP's support group. I am surprised I can send and receive messages on this NG News is a completely different process and protocol. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can't get mail
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I click on the email and the little progression on bottom of right starts as normal but goes and goes. I click get mail and get message saying something like busy processing mail please wait. Then in a while it gets message saying timed out. It may say connection failed timed out. It started getting a little slower a few days ago but just quit this morning. I have changed nothing. I'd suggest you first check your mail settings under Accounts. If they all look to be proper, call your ISP's support group. I am surprised I can send and receive messages on this NG News is a completely different process and protocol. until ie comes to send unsent messages then BOTH are treated the same, but since the newsgroups have not been opened, unsent news postings generate a (correct) error message. Should unsent news be differentiated from unsend email? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can't get mail
ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I did call my ISP and got T'ed off. They said they don't support Seamonkey. When I did some questioning she said they weren't trained for seamonkey and could give me over to someone who could and ask if I wanted that. Is said of course. When I got there it was a charge for the support. Then I got T'ed again and ask for a supervisor. He said there is a charge for this support. I said, I was told 5 years ago support is free. OH I don't know I guess they hire folks that don't know nothing then when they can't support you they send you to the ones how can but charge. Back to your question I suppose all settings are correct, who or why would they have changed since yesterday. Apparently ATT tech support don't know. I guess I'm left hanging out. So you lie to them. They don't need to know what program you're using. If they press you, say T-Bird or something. You need to know the correct settings -- server URL, port number, SSL on or off, that kind of thing, and that's not particular to any program. Sure, they lay things out differently, but the basic data are the same. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can't get mail
ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I did call my ISP and got T'ed off. They said they don't support Seamonkey. When I did some questioning she said they weren't trained for seamonkey and could give me over to someone who could and ask if I wanted that. Is said of course. When I got there it was a charge for the support. Then I got T'ed again and ask for a supervisor. He said there is a charge for this support. I said, I was told 5 years ago support is free. Call them back and if they ask again, tell them you're using Outlook Express. That (and possibly Outlook or Thunderbird) is all their scripts tell them. When they ask questions, feign OE. It's not that you can't get mail with SeaMonkey, it's that their scripts don't mention anything else. (Aside: which is all ridiculous because the server settings for any given ISP are always the same.) OH I don't know I guess they hire folks that don't know nothing then when they can't support you they send you to the ones how can but charge. If the accent is an American dialect, you are reaching a minimum-wage person with no real skills. If the accent is, um, Indian, you are reaching a person with moderate skills who is actually in Bangladore, but who must still follow the script. Back to your question I suppose all settings are correct, who or why would they have changed since yesterday. Apparently ATT tech support don't know. I guess I'm left hanging out. Can you get to your mail via sbcglobal's webmail interface? (I'm sure they have one.) Oh, and check your firewall to make sure you haven't blocked yourself. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can't get mail
Rick Merrill wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I click on the email and the little progression on bottom of right starts as normal but goes and goes. I click get mail and get message saying something like busy processing mail please wait. Then in a while it gets message saying timed out. It may say connection failed timed out. It started getting a little slower a few days ago but just quit this morning. I have changed nothing. I'd suggest you first check your mail settings under Accounts. If they all look to be proper, call your ISP's support group. I am surprised I can send and receive messages on this NG News is a completely different process and protocol. until ie comes to send unsent messages then BOTH are treated the same, What does IE have to do with SeaMonkey? but since the newsgroups have not been opened, unsent news postings generate a (correct) error message. Should unsent news be differentiated from unsend email? I don't understand the point you are trying to make. But yes, news and email is completely different. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can't get mail
On 07/22/2010 08:10 AM, ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: This morning my seamonkey email times out. any ideas Can you access your email from the webmail site? What specifically are your pop smtp settings? Server settings should be: pop.att.yahoo.com 995 ldj1...@sbcglobal.net SSL/TLS Use secure authentication - *unchecked* smtp.att.yahoo.com 465 ldj1...@sbcglobal.net No SSL/TLS Also, empty your trash compact your mail folders. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can't get mail
NoOp My port incoming was 25 and SSL/TLS was none My outgoing port was 110 I made your recommended changes, it now works. Did my settings change. If they did I didn't change them and it has been working for several years. Thanks very much L.D. NoOp wrote: On 07/22/2010 08:10 AM, ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: This morning my seamonkey email times out. any ideas Can you access your email from the webmail site? What specifically are your pop smtp settings? Server settings should be: pop.att.yahoo.com 995 ldj1...@sbcglobal.net SSL/TLS Use secure authentication - *unchecked* smtp.att.yahoo.com 465 ldj1...@sbcglobal.net No SSL/TLS Also, empty your trash compact your mail folders. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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ATT frequently makes network changes. They never tell their support people. It would not matter anyways because tech support has no idea what 465 is or what SSL means. Most of them use web mail and are amazed when told that there is another kind of mail. I have found that if you keep calling back you get a different person each time. One out of ten will be somewhat computer literate and able to help. ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: NoOp My port incoming was 25 and SSL/TLS was none My outgoing port was 110 I made your recommended changes, it now works. Did my settings change. If they did I didn't change them and it has been working for several years. Thanks very much L.D. NoOp wrote: On 07/22/2010 08:10 AM, ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: This morning my seamonkey email times out. any ideas Can you access your email from the webmail site? What specifically are your pop smtp settings? Server settings should be: pop.att.yahoo.com 995 ldj1...@sbcglobal.net SSL/TLS Use secure authentication - *unchecked* smtp.att.yahoo.com 465 ldj1...@sbcglobal.net No SSL/TLS Also, empty your trash compact your mail folders. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: can't get mail
On 07/22/2010 04:13 PM, ldj1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: NoOp My port incoming was 25 and SSL/TLS was none My outgoing port was 110 I made your recommended changes, it now works. Did my settings change. If they did I didn't change them and it has been working for several years. Thanks very much L.D. From your IP address I guessed that you had previously been on swbell and were on an old RBACK2.WACOTX SWBELL.NET switch. You probably received a notice sometime back that your settings would change (maybe it got caught in a spam filter). Anyway, the settings I gave you have been in effect for quite some time; they probably just got around to upgrading the switch. The ATT tech should have checked your settings (regardless of email client). Glad it works for you. :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
