Re: two .slt folders

[Bernard Mercier]

Henry a formulé la demande :

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:



Henry wrote:


Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:


If so, then close Mozilla,



When I run  mozilla.exe -p in the run box, all I get is my Mozilla home page.  I get 
nothing about profile manager.



I guess you missed those little words


No, I closed Mozilla before I ran mozilla.exe -p



Henry

I can confirm what Henry says, albeit I tried with SeaMonkey.
I think the reason is, there is only one profile, so no need to do a profile 
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Re: Default e-mail client "contest."

[Daniel]

HeavyDuty wrote:

Daniel wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Seamonkey 1.1.16
Win XP Pro SP3
WordPerfect WPOX4 SP1.

For some strange reason, WordPerfect wants me to set my default 
e-mail client to MS Office 2007 Outlook (Macy's and Gimbel's?). The 
particular WP function has nothing to do with e-mail, but that's 
beside the point. If I do set my default e-mail client to Outlook, 
how will that affect Seamonkey?


It will have no effect of SeaMonkey.just that every time you try 
to send an email, you will be using Outlook (with all its virus, worm, 
trogan permitting problems!!), unless you specifically select SM.


Not a good idea, if you ask me.

Daniel


So, are you saying that except when I am using seamonkey and 
sending/replying/forwarding e-mail from within it, that any other time I 
click on an e-mail address link, it will start outlook?


If you are using SeaMonkey and want to send an e-mail, SeaMonkey has the 
facility to send an e-mail, i.e. it's the one program, so there is no 
need for Windows to start the default program.


At any other time, when you click on an e-mail address, the system WILL 
start the default e-mail program. If Outlook is the default, that's what 
gets started.


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Re: Gone back to v1 (1.1.16) but

[Daniel]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:


Interesting. My first thought was to disable css, didn't help, so I
disabled js and it worked, so I looked no further,


Disable js is a useful debugging tool, but it's not a solution. It's
something like being sprayed by a skunk and holding your breath; it
prevents the smell but causes issues elsewhere.



The "solution" will be the release of SeaMonkey 2.0.

Lee


Big call, Lee, big call!!

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Re: Default e-mail client "contest."

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

Daniel wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Daniel wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Seamonkey 1.1.16
Win XP Pro SP3
WordPerfect WPOX4 SP1.

For some strange reason, WordPerfect wants me to set my default 
e-mail client to MS Office 2007 Outlook (Macy's and Gimbel's?). The 
particular WP function has nothing to do with e-mail, but that's 
beside the point. If I do set my default e-mail client to Outlook, 
how will that affect Seamonkey?


It will have no effect of SeaMonkey.just that every time you try 
to send an email, you will be using Outlook (with all its virus, 
worm, trogan permitting problems!!), unless you specifically select SM.


Not a good idea, if you ask me.

Daniel


So, are you saying that except when I am using seamonkey and 
sending/replying/forwarding e-mail from within it, that any other time 
I click on an e-mail address link, it will start outlook?


If you are using SeaMonkey and want to send an e-mail, SeaMonkey has the 
facility to send an e-mail, i.e. it's the one program, so there is no 
need for Windows to start the default program.


At any other time, when you click on an e-mail address, the system WILL 
start the default e-mail program. If Outlook is the default, that's what 
gets started.


Daniel


thats sort of correct.  Because SM is an all in one 
package, if you click on an email link in the browser, 
then it will start the SM mail editor.  Even if you 
have another email program set as the default.


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Re: two .slt folders

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

Bernard Mercier wrote:

Henry a formulé la demande :

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:



Henry wrote:


Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:


If so, then close Mozilla,



When I run  mozilla.exe -p in the run box, all I get is my Mozilla 
home page.  I get nothing about profile manager.



I guess you missed those little words


No, I closed Mozilla before I ran mozilla.exe -p



Henry

I can confirm what Henry says, albeit I tried with SeaMonkey.
I think the reason is, there is only one profile, so no need to do a 
profile selection.




no, if you don't have SeaMonkey running, including 
shutting down the QuickLaunch option, then you can 
start the profile manager at any time, even if there is 
only one profile.


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Is cacert not reliable?

[P.N.]

Hello!

I wonder, why cacert (http://www.cacert.org/) isn't installed as a 
certificates issuer - any problems with it? Can I trust it, or shouldn't 
I for some reason?


Kind regards

Peter

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Re: Is cacert not reliable?

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:19:52 +0200, /P.N./:

I wonder, why cacert (http://www.cacert.org/) isn't installed as a 
certificates issuer - any problems with it? Can I trust it, or shouldn't 
I for some reason?


It is not a trusted CA by default which doesn't mean it is 
fraudulent.  If you trust it you could add its certificate to your 
trusted CA store.  Keep in mind you should trust everyone this CA 
issues certificates to as once adding it you won't get any warning 
connecting to such sites.


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Re: Is cacert not reliable?

[David E. Ross]

On 4/15/2009 5:19 AM, P.N. wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> I wonder, why cacert (http://www.cacert.org/) isn't installed as a 
> certificates issuer - any problems with it? Can I trust it, or shouldn't 
> I for some reason?
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Peter
> 

CACert has not gone through an audit or review within the criteria given
in Sections 7-10 of
.  Thus, no one
knows if it can be trusted.  I believe they are now in the process of
going through that review.

I did a preliminary review of CACert's documentation a few years ago
when they first requested inclusion in the NSS database of CA roots.  I
found some problems that were not major but did indeed require
correction.  That review never reached the point of looking at CACert's
practices.  (A review or audit should parallel the ISO 9001 mantra:  Say
what you do; do what you say; and be prepared to prove it.  Beyond ISO
9001, what you say and do must also meet certain standards.)

Note that only a certificate authority (CA) itself can request
inclusion.  Users cannot make this request.  CACert made such a request
in 2003; see .
However, when it became obvious that they needed to do some work to
comply with the Mozilla policy, they agreed in 2007 to withdraw the
request.  They will submit a new request (a new bug report) when they
are ready to undergo Mozilla's scrutiny.

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Re: Default e-mail client "contest."

[HeavyDuty]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Daniel wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Daniel wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Seamonkey 1.1.16
Win XP Pro SP3
WordPerfect WPOX4 SP1.

For some strange reason, WordPerfect wants me to set my default 
e-mail client to MS Office 2007 Outlook (Macy's and Gimbel's?). The 
particular WP function has nothing to do with e-mail, but that's 
beside the point. If I do set my default e-mail client to Outlook, 
how will that affect Seamonkey?


It will have no effect of SeaMonkey.just that every time you try 
to send an email, you will be using Outlook (with all its virus, 
worm, trogan permitting problems!!), unless you specifically select SM.


Not a good idea, if you ask me.

Daniel


So, are you saying that except when I am using seamonkey and 
sending/replying/forwarding e-mail from within it, that any other 
time I click on an e-mail address link, it will start outlook?


If you are using SeaMonkey and want to send an e-mail, SeaMonkey has 
the facility to send an e-mail, i.e. it's the one program, so there is 
no need for Windows to start the default program.


At any other time, when you click on an e-mail address, the system 
WILL start the default e-mail program. If Outlook is the default, 
that's what gets started.


Daniel


thats sort of correct.  Because SM is an all in one package, if you 
click on an email link in the browser, then it will start the SM mail 
editor.  Even if you have another email program set as the default.


Well, that gives me some "comfort" to create a MSO Outlook 
default work-a-round.

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Re: Default e-mail client "contest."

[HeavyDuty]

Terry R. wrote:
The date and time was Tuesday, April 14, 2009 3:49:43 PM, and on a whim, 
HeavyDuty pounded out on the keyboard:



Seamonkey 1.1.16
Win XP Pro SP3
WordPerfect WPOX4 SP1.

For some strange reason, WordPerfect wants me to set my default e-mail 
client to MS Office 2007 Outlook (Macy's and Gimbel's?). The 
particular WP function has nothing to do with e-mail, but that's 
beside the point. If I do set my default e-mail client to Outlook, how 
will that affect Seamonkey?


Which version of X4 do you have?  Standard includes WP Mail, so why 
would it want MSO 2007 as the default?


Are you sure you're not confusing the AB?  Try looking under Tools, 
Settings, Environment,  In the Address Book window, choose "WordPerfect 
Address Book".



Terry R.


Why would WP want MSO Outlook? I have no idea.
Setting in WP is the default address book: "WordPerfect 
Address Book."


I am waiting for some advice from the WP NG.
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Re: Default e-mail client "contest."

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

HeavyDuty wrote:

Terry R. wrote:
The date and time was Tuesday, April 14, 2009 3:49:43 PM, and on a 
whim, HeavyDuty pounded out on the keyboard:



Seamonkey 1.1.16
Win XP Pro SP3
WordPerfect WPOX4 SP1.

For some strange reason, WordPerfect wants me to set my default 
e-mail client to MS Office 2007 Outlook (Macy's and Gimbel's?). The 
particular WP function has nothing to do with e-mail, but that's 
beside the point. If I do set my default e-mail client to Outlook, 
how will that affect Seamonkey?


Which version of X4 do you have?  Standard includes WP Mail, so why 
would it want MSO 2007 as the default?


Are you sure you're not confusing the AB?  Try looking under Tools, 
Settings, Environment,  In the Address Book window, choose 
"WordPerfect Address Book".



Terry R.


Why would WP want MSO Outlook? I have no idea.
Setting in WP is the default address book: "WordPerfect Address Book."

I am waiting for some advice from the WP NG.


I don't know about your version of WP, but in mine 
[WP10 and 6.1] the default is whatever windows told it: 
Click on the windows start button, then settings, then 
control panel, then the Internet Options icon, and 
under Programs tab, under Email, select SM Mail.


Make sure you do this with SM and WP closed.  Did that 
work?


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Re: Default e-mail client "contest."

[HeavyDuty]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Terry R. wrote:
The date and time was Tuesday, April 14, 2009 3:49:43 PM, and on a 
whim, HeavyDuty pounded out on the keyboard:



Seamonkey 1.1.16
Win XP Pro SP3
WordPerfect WPOX4 SP1.

For some strange reason, WordPerfect wants me to set my default 
e-mail client to MS Office 2007 Outlook (Macy's and Gimbel's?). The 
particular WP function has nothing to do with e-mail, but that's 
beside the point. If I do set my default e-mail client to Outlook, 
how will that affect Seamonkey?


Which version of X4 do you have?  Standard includes WP Mail, so why 
would it want MSO 2007 as the default?


Are you sure you're not confusing the AB?  Try looking under Tools, 
Settings, Environment,  In the Address Book window, choose 
"WordPerfect Address Book".



Terry R.


Why would WP want MSO Outlook? I have no idea.
Setting in WP is the default address book: "WordPerfect Address Book."

I am waiting for some advice from the WP NG.


I don't know about your version of WP, but in mine [WP10 and 6.1] the 
default is whatever windows told it: Click on the windows start button, 
then settings, then control panel, then the Internet Options icon, and 
under Programs tab, under Email, select SM Mail.


Make sure you do this with SM and WP closed.  Did that work?


Thanks Peter,

I've made the change. I'll let you know what happens when I 
know, since this seems to be intermittent.

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My Old Sent Messages

[Laurie Erwin]

I have kept about 400 of my "Sent" messages, some dating back a couple 
of years. I agree that is too many and I'll cull them as soon as my 
recent problem is corrected. Yesterday, something happened and no longer 
can I read the body of the messages that I have sent. The subject, 
recipient and date still appear in the upper half of the window but the 
bottom half  is blank. Messages that I sent today are OK.

This problem applies only to "Sent" messages; My Local folders are OK.
I must have done something  accidentally but don't know what and I don't 
know how to correct it.

Using SeaMonkey 1.1.15.
Laurie Erwin
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Re: My Old Sent Messages

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

Laurie Erwin wrote:
I have kept about 400 of my "Sent" messages, some dating back a couple 
of years. I agree that is too many and I'll cull them as soon as my 
recent problem is corrected. Yesterday, something happened and no longer 
can I read the body of the messages that I have sent. The subject, 
recipient and date still appear in the upper half of the window but the 
bottom half  is blank. Messages that I sent today are OK.

This problem applies only to "Sent" messages; My Local folders are OK.
I must have done something  accidentally but don't know what and I don't 
know how to correct it.

Using SeaMonkey 1.1.15.
Laurie Erwin


close and reopen SM.  Did that fix it?

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Re: Default e-mail client "contest."

[Terry R.]

The date and time was Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:50:03 AM, and on a 
whim, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo pounded out on the keyboard:



HeavyDuty wrote:

Terry R. wrote:
The date and time was Tuesday, April 14, 2009 3:49:43 PM, and on a 
whim, HeavyDuty pounded out on the keyboard:



Seamonkey 1.1.16
Win XP Pro SP3
WordPerfect WPOX4 SP1.

For some strange reason, WordPerfect wants me to set my default 
e-mail client to MS Office 2007 Outlook (Macy's and Gimbel's?). The 
particular WP function has nothing to do with e-mail, but that's 
beside the point. If I do set my default e-mail client to Outlook, 
how will that affect Seamonkey?
Which version of X4 do you have?  Standard includes WP Mail, so why 
would it want MSO 2007 as the default?


Are you sure you're not confusing the AB?  Try looking under Tools, 
Settings, Environment,  In the Address Book window, choose 
"WordPerfect Address Book".



Terry R.

Why would WP want MSO Outlook? I have no idea.
Setting in WP is the default address book: "WordPerfect Address Book."

I am waiting for some advice from the WP NG.


I don't know about your version of WP, but in mine 
[WP10 and 6.1] the default is whatever windows told it: 
Click on the windows start button, then settings, then 
control panel, then the Internet Options icon, and 
under Programs tab, under Email, select SM Mail.


Make sure you do this with SM and WP closed.  Did that 
work?




Yeah, I'm pretty sure that changed in v11, with Windows AB being the 
default.  The WP AB isn't reliable, as Ive had it fail often enough that 
if I add anything to it, I immediately export it, same as I do with the 
TB AB.  That's probably why Corel started defaulting to the WAB.


The WP groups are full of "what happened to my address book" type stuff, 
and no one even replies anymore.  As long as I back it up after 
modifying it, it doesn't bother me if/when it fails.



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Re: Default e-mail client "contest."

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

Terry R. wrote:
The date and time was Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:50:03 AM, and on a 
whim, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo pounded out on the keyboard:



HeavyDuty wrote:

Terry R. wrote:
The date and time was Tuesday, April 14, 2009 3:49:43 PM, and on a 
whim, HeavyDuty pounded out on the keyboard:



Seamonkey 1.1.16
Win XP Pro SP3
WordPerfect WPOX4 SP1.

For some strange reason, WordPerfect wants me to set my default 
e-mail client to MS Office 2007 Outlook (Macy's and Gimbel's?). The 
particular WP function has nothing to do with e-mail, but that's 
beside the point. If I do set my default e-mail client to Outlook, 
how will that affect Seamonkey?
Which version of X4 do you have?  Standard includes WP Mail, so why 
would it want MSO 2007 as the default?


Are you sure you're not confusing the AB?  Try looking under Tools, 
Settings, Environment,  In the Address Book window, choose 
"WordPerfect Address Book".



Terry R.

Why would WP want MSO Outlook? I have no idea.
Setting in WP is the default address book: "WordPerfect Address Book."

I am waiting for some advice from the WP NG.


I don't know about your version of WP, but in mine [WP10 and 6.1] the 
default is whatever windows told it: Click on the windows start 
button, then settings, then control panel, then the Internet Options 
icon, and under Programs tab, under Email, select SM Mail.


Make sure you do this with SM and WP closed.  Did that work?



Yeah, I'm pretty sure that changed in v11, with Windows AB being the 
default.  The WP AB isn't reliable, as Ive had it fail often enough that 
if I add anything to it, I immediately export it, same as I do with the 
TB AB.  That's probably why Corel started defaulting to the WAB.


The WP groups are full of "what happened to my address book" type stuff, 
and no one even replies anymore.  As long as I back it up after 
modifying it, it doesn't bother me if/when it fails.



Terry R.


oh, I get you now.  I don't do it that way.  After I've 
created my message, I click on File, Send and it opens 
an SM Editor window with the message as an attachment.


I just had a look at the WP Address book, and well, 
lets just say: No thank you! I'll stick with SM. If I'm 
sending out an important message, then I usually 
compose my message in WP, then copy and paste it into 
SM and go from there.


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Re: Default e-mail client "contest."

[Benoit Renard]

Daniel wrote:

Outlook (with all its virus, worm, trogan permitting problems!!)


Outlook is a vastly different product than Outlook Express, which is the 
actual bad program.

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Re: Default e-mail client "contest."

[HeavyDuty]

Terry R. wrote:
The date and time was Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:50:03 AM, and on a 
whim, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo pounded out on the keyboard:



HeavyDuty wrote:

Terry R. wrote:
The date and time was Tuesday, April 14, 2009 3:49:43 PM, and on a 
whim, HeavyDuty pounded out on the keyboard:



Seamonkey 1.1.16
Win XP Pro SP3
WordPerfect WPOX4 SP1.

For some strange reason, WordPerfect wants me to set my default 
e-mail client to MS Office 2007 Outlook (Macy's and Gimbel's?). The 
particular WP function has nothing to do with e-mail, but that's 
beside the point. If I do set my default e-mail client to Outlook, 
how will that affect Seamonkey?
Which version of X4 do you have?  Standard includes WP Mail, so why 
would it want MSO 2007 as the default?


Are you sure you're not confusing the AB?  Try looking under Tools, 
Settings, Environment,  In the Address Book window, choose 
"WordPerfect Address Book".



Terry R.

Why would WP want MSO Outlook? I have no idea.
Setting in WP is the default address book: "WordPerfect Address Book."

I am waiting for some advice from the WP NG.


I don't know about your version of WP, but in mine [WP10 and 6.1] the 
default is whatever windows told it: Click on the windows start 
button, then settings, then control panel, then the Internet Options 
icon, and under Programs tab, under Email, select SM Mail.


Make sure you do this with SM and WP closed.  Did that work?



Yeah, I'm pretty sure that changed in v11, with Windows AB being the 
default.  The WP AB isn't reliable, as Ive had it fail often enough that 
if I add anything to it, I immediately export it, same as I do with the 
TB AB.  That's probably why Corel started defaulting to the WAB.


The WP groups are full of "what happened to my address book" type stuff, 
and no one even replies anymore.  As long as I back it up after 
modifying it, it doesn't bother me if/when it fails.



Terry R.
I do not use WP AB, so I've never had that problem. AFA the 
WP NGs, they are certainly less active than they used to be, 
fortunately some of the old times still are present, even 
though one of them, Charles Rossiter, has started his own WP 
support site > http://www.wpuniverse.com/.


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Re: Default e-mail client "contest."

[HeavyDuty]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Terry R. wrote:
The date and time was Tuesday, April 14, 2009 3:49:43 PM, and on a 
whim, HeavyDuty pounded out on the keyboard:



Seamonkey 1.1.16
Win XP Pro SP3
WordPerfect WPOX4 SP1.

For some strange reason, WordPerfect wants me to set my default 
e-mail client to MS Office 2007 Outlook (Macy's and Gimbel's?). The 
particular WP function has nothing to do with e-mail, but that's 
beside the point. If I do set my default e-mail client to Outlook, 
how will that affect Seamonkey?


Which version of X4 do you have?  Standard includes WP Mail, so why 
would it want MSO 2007 as the default?


Are you sure you're not confusing the AB?  Try looking under Tools, 
Settings, Environment,  In the Address Book window, choose 
"WordPerfect Address Book".



Terry R.


Why would WP want MSO Outlook? I have no idea.
Setting in WP is the default address book: "WordPerfect Address Book."

I am waiting for some advice from the WP NG.


I don't know about your version of WP, but in mine [WP10 and 6.1] the 
default is whatever windows told it: Click on the windows start button, 
then settings, then control panel, then the Internet Options icon, and 
under Programs tab, under Email, select SM Mail.


Make sure you do this with SM and WP closed.  Did that work?

No. It did not make a change. Still the challenge for MSO 
Outlook.

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Re: Is cacert not reliable?

[NoOp]

On 04/15/2009 07:45 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 4/15/2009 5:19 AM, P.N. wrote:
>> Hello!
>> 
>> I wonder, why cacert (http://www.cacert.org/) isn't installed as a 
>> certificates issuer - any problems with it? Can I trust it, or shouldn't 
>> I for some reason?
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
> 
> CACert has not gone through an audit or review within the criteria given
> in Sections 7-10 of
> .  Thus, no one
> knows if it can be trusted.  I believe they are now in the process of
> going through that review.
> 
> I did a preliminary review of CACert's documentation a few years ago
> when they first requested inclusion in the NSS database of CA roots.  I
> found some problems that were not major but did indeed require
> correction.  That review never reached the point of looking at CACert's
> practices.  (A review or audit should parallel the ISO 9001 mantra:  Say
> what you do; do what you say; and be prepared to prove it.  Beyond ISO
> 9001, what you say and do must also meet certain standards.)
> 
> Note that only a certificate authority (CA) itself can request
> inclusion.  Users cannot make this request.  CACert made such a request
> in 2003; see .
> However, when it became obvious that they needed to do some work to
> comply with the Mozilla policy, they agreed in 2007 to withdraw the
> request.  They will submit a new request (a new bug report) when they
> are ready to undergo Mozilla's scrutiny.
> 

Adding to David's links:

http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/InclusionStatus

CAcert's primary focus and largest challenge at present is to meet the
fair but firm policy of Mozilla with a view to inclusion in their
products, including the popular Firefox browser (see Mozilla bug
215243). To that end an Audit is underway (you can refer to the
AuditToDo list for progress and our Certificate Policy Statement is
being refined at CPS (many thanks to Christian Barmala's work on this
topic and for everyone who has contributed to the shaping of these
policies).



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Re: Default e-mail client "contest."

[Terry R.]

The date and time was Wednesday, April 15, 2009 11:24:46 AM, and on a 
whim, HeavyDuty pounded out on the keyboard:



Terry R. wrote:
The date and time was Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:50:03 AM, and on a 
whim, Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo pounded out on the keyboard:



HeavyDuty wrote:

Terry R. wrote:
The date and time was Tuesday, April 14, 2009 3:49:43 PM, and on a 
whim, HeavyDuty pounded out on the keyboard:



Seamonkey 1.1.16
Win XP Pro SP3
WordPerfect WPOX4 SP1.

For some strange reason, WordPerfect wants me to set my default 
e-mail client to MS Office 2007 Outlook (Macy's and Gimbel's?). The 
particular WP function has nothing to do with e-mail, but that's 
beside the point. If I do set my default e-mail client to Outlook, 
how will that affect Seamonkey?
Which version of X4 do you have?  Standard includes WP Mail, so why 
would it want MSO 2007 as the default?


Are you sure you're not confusing the AB?  Try looking under Tools, 
Settings, Environment,  In the Address Book window, choose 
"WordPerfect Address Book".



Terry R.

Why would WP want MSO Outlook? I have no idea.
Setting in WP is the default address book: "WordPerfect Address Book."

I am waiting for some advice from the WP NG.
I don't know about your version of WP, but in mine [WP10 and 6.1] the 
default is whatever windows told it: Click on the windows start 
button, then settings, then control panel, then the Internet Options 
icon, and under Programs tab, under Email, select SM Mail.


Make sure you do this with SM and WP closed.  Did that work?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that changed in v11, with Windows AB being the 
default.  The WP AB isn't reliable, as Ive had it fail often enough that 
if I add anything to it, I immediately export it, same as I do with the 
TB AB.  That's probably why Corel started defaulting to the WAB.


The WP groups are full of "what happened to my address book" type stuff, 
and no one even replies anymore.  As long as I back it up after 
modifying it, it doesn't bother me if/when it fails.



Terry R.
I do not use WP AB, so I've never had that problem. AFA the 
WP NGs, they are certainly less active than they used to be, 
fortunately some of the old times still are present, even 
though one of them, Charles Rossiter, has started his own WP 
support site > http://www.wpuniverse.com/.




I subscribe to those groups, and you're right, there isn't a lot of 
activity.  That's because WP users don't have any problems! ;-)


WP Universe has been around for quite a while.


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Re: What causes duplicate messages?

[Maria Rosales]

You have to go into settings and deselect that the message not be
deleted after you are through reading it. If you do not do that it
makes them unread messages all over again.

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 5:56 PM, chicagofan  wrote:
> HeavyDuty wrote:
>>
>> chicagofan wrote:
>>>
>>> What is happening when received messages are duplicated with a
>>>  date of 12/31/1969? bj [SM l.l.ll]
>>
>> Are ALL your messages duplicated and with that date, or just some? While I
>> have not a clue, I would suspect a problem with the e-mail host.
>
> Just some
>
> I thought it was just on mail from a friend who uses Apple, but after a
> couple of days of just some of her messages duplicating that way, I got
> one from a friend who uses AOL, right behind the other one's message.
> Don't know if they were related, I failed to check if maybe it was a
> reply to one of the Apple messages.
>
> I didn't know if it was Microsoft or Apple related perhaps, since I'm the
> only
> one who doesn't use MS based e-mail [except the 1 friend using Apple].
> bj
>
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Re: What causes duplicate messages?

[Gregory Hicks]

What causes duplicated messages?

One thing that I've found that RELIABLY duplicates messages is to have
your address on at least two of the To:, Cc, and/or Bcc: lines AND the
mail is processed via some flavor of MS mail handler.  MS seems to
process each of these lines separately and keeps addees on each line
separate.  MS doesn't seem to recognize that the To:, Cc: and Bcc:
lines are just for HUMAN convenence and has nothing to do with mail
handling.

What MS should do is to consolidate all three lines into one (w/o
changing the message itself), sorting the addresses uniquely, and then
initiating connections.  At a minimum, the MS product will make one
connection for each of the To:, Cc: and Bcc: headers.

Your address needs to be on a least TWO of the headers to get the
message duplicated.  If it is on all three of the headers, then you get
a message in triplicate.

Regards,
Gregory Hicks

> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:16:27 -0400
> Subject: Re: What causes duplicate messages?
> From: Maria Rosales 
> To: chicagofan 
> Cc: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
> 
> You have to go into settings and deselect that the message not be
> deleted after you are through reading it. If you do not do that it
> makes them unread messages all over again.
> 
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 5:56 PM, chicagofan  wrote:
> > HeavyDuty wrote:
> >>
> >> chicagofan wrote:
> >>>
> >>> What is happening when received messages are duplicated with a
> >>>  date of 12/31/1969? bj [SM l.l.ll]
> >>
> >> Are ALL your messages duplicated and with that date, or just some? 
While I
> >> have not a clue, I would suspect a problem with the e-mail host.
> >
> > Just some
> >
> > I thought it was just on mail from a friend who uses Apple, but 
after a
> > couple of days of just some of her messages duplicating that way, I 
got
> > one from a friend who uses AOL, right behind the other one's 
message.
> > Don't know if they were related, I failed to check if maybe it was a
> > reply to one of the Apple messages.
> >
> > I didn't know if it was Microsoft or Apple related perhaps, since 
I'm the
> > only
> > one who doesn't use MS based e-mail [except the 1 friend using 
Apple].
> > bj
> >
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Mail Trash Folder - ISP's or Mine (?)

[DoctorBill]

When I read my e-mail and then delete it, the mail goes into the trash - 
as I have selected in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings".


But...it goes into the ISP's mail trash, not mine on my Hard Drive.

The selector in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" doesn't specify
which Trash Folder.

Is there some way to force this issue ?

If I want to go back and re-read or get something I later decide is
needed, I have to wait for the trash message to download (dial-up!).

Were it in MY trash, it would be immediately available.

Is there anything I can do about this ?

DoctorBill over the Hill
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Re: Mail Trash Folder - ISP's or Mine (?)

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

DoctorBill wrote:
When I read my e-mail and then delete it, the mail goes into the trash - 
as I have selected in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings".


But...it goes into the ISP's mail trash, not mine on my Hard Drive.

The selector in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" doesn't specify
which Trash Folder.

Is there some way to force this issue ?

If I want to go back and re-read or get something I later decide is
needed, I have to wait for the trash message to download (dial-up!).

Were it in MY trash, it would be immediately available.

Is there anything I can do about this ?

DoctorBill over the Hill


if you're using SM Mail, and if you're using pop 
access, then the trash is on your own computer.  Its 
either in the trash can for your account, or it could 
be in the trash under Local Folders.


If you're using imap, then the trash is on the email 
server.


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Re: Default e-mail client "contest."

[Daniel]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Daniel wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Daniel wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Seamonkey 1.1.16
Win XP Pro SP3
WordPerfect WPOX4 SP1.

For some strange reason, WordPerfect wants me to set my default 
e-mail client to MS Office 2007 Outlook (Macy's and Gimbel's?). The 
particular WP function has nothing to do with e-mail, but that's 
beside the point. If I do set my default e-mail client to Outlook, 
how will that affect Seamonkey?


It will have no effect of SeaMonkey.just that every time you try 
to send an email, you will be using Outlook (with all its virus, 
worm, trogan permitting problems!!), unless you specifically select SM.


Not a good idea, if you ask me.

Daniel


So, are you saying that except when I am using seamonkey and 
sending/replying/forwarding e-mail from within it, that any other 
time I click on an e-mail address link, it will start outlook?


If you are using SeaMonkey and want to send an e-mail, SeaMonkey has 
the facility to send an e-mail, i.e. it's the one program, so there is 
no need for Windows to start the default program.


At any other time, when you click on an e-mail address, the system 
WILL start the default e-mail program. If Outlook is the default, 
that's what gets started.


Daniel


thats sort of correct.  Because SM is an all in one package, if you 
click on an email link in the browser, then it will start the SM mail 
editor.  Even if you have another email program set as the default.




Read the first para of my last, Grant! Isn't that what I wrote??

Daniel
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Re: Default e-mail client "contest."

[Daniel]

Benoit Renard wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Outlook (with all its virus, worm, trogan permitting problems!!)


Outlook is a vastly different product than Outlook Express, which is the 
actual bad program.


Oh, Sorry, I thought one was, effectively, an upgrade of the other.

Daniel
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Re: Mail Trash Folder - ISP's or Mine (?)

[Leonidas Jones]

DoctorBill wrote:

When I read my e-mail and then delete it, the mail goes into the trash -
as I have selected in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings".

But...it goes into the ISP's mail trash, not mine on my Hard Drive.

The selector in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" doesn't specify
which Trash Folder.

Is there some way to force this issue ?

If I want to go back and re-read or get something I later decide is
needed, I have to wait for the trash message to download (dial-up!).

Were it in MY trash, it would be immediately available.

Is there anything I can do about this ?

DoctorBill over the Hill



POP or IMAP?

If its POP, something is wrong indeed.  If its IMAP, that's probably the 
intended behavior.


Lee
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Re: Mail Trash Folder - ISP's or Mine (?)

[DoctorBill]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:
When I read my e-mail and then delete it, the mail goes into the trash 
- as I have selected in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings".


But...it goes into the ISP's mail trash, not mine on my Hard Drive.

The selector in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" doesn't specify
which Trash Folder.

Is there some way to force this issue ?

If I want to go back and re-read or get something I later decide is
needed, I have to wait for the trash message to download (dial-up!).

Were it in MY trash, it would be immediately available.

Is there anything I can do about this ?

DoctorBill over the Hill


if you're using SM Mail, and if you're using pop access, then the trash 
is on your own computer.  Its either in the trash can for your account, 
or it could be in the trash under Local Folders.


If you're using imap, then the trash is on the email server.



How would I know POP or IMAP ?

It must be IMAP...?

Is there nothing I can do to get it to "trash" into my trash folder 
under LOCAL FOLDERS ?


No big deal - just an inconvenience.

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Re: Mail Trash Folder - ISP's or Mine (?)

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

DoctorBill wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:
When I read my e-mail and then delete it, the mail goes into the 
trash - as I have selected in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings".


But...it goes into the ISP's mail trash, not mine on my Hard Drive.

The selector in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" doesn't specify
which Trash Folder.

Is there some way to force this issue ?

If I want to go back and re-read or get something I later decide is
needed, I have to wait for the trash message to download (dial-up!).

Were it in MY trash, it would be immediately available.

Is there anything I can do about this ?

DoctorBill over the Hill


if you're using SM Mail, and if you're using pop access, then the 
trash is on your own computer.  Its either in the trash can for your 
account, or it could be in the trash under Local Folders.


If you're using imap, then the trash is on the email server.



How would I know POP or IMAP ?

It must be IMAP...?


Edit, Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings, select the 
account, and under Server Settings, at the top right, 
it will say Server Type. What does it say after that?


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Re: My Old Sent Messages

[Daniel]

Laurie Erwin wrote:
I have kept about 400 of my "Sent" messages, some dating back a couple 
of years. I agree that is too many and I'll cull them as soon as my 
recent problem is corrected. 





Using SeaMonkey 1.1.15.
Laurie Erwin


Although you didn't ask for this solution, yet, Laurie, to clean out 
your "Sent" folder, under your Local Folders, create several 
sub-folders, 2006-Sent, 2007-Sent, etc, and move the messages from the 
"Sent" folder into these folders.


Do likewise for your "Inbox" so that your active mail profile is as trim 
as possible.


Daniel
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Re: Mail Trash Folder - ISP's or Mine (?)

[DoctorBill]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:
When I read my e-mail and then delete it, the mail goes into the 
trash - as I have selected in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings".


But...it goes into the ISP's mail trash, not mine on my Hard Drive.

The selector in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" doesn't specify
which Trash Folder.

Is there some way to force this issue ?

If I want to go back and re-read or get something I later decide is
needed, I have to wait for the trash message to download (dial-up!).

Were it in MY trash, it would be immediately available.

Is there anything I can do about this ?

DoctorBill over the Hill


if you're using SM Mail, and if you're using pop access, then the 
trash is on your own computer.  Its either in the trash can for your 
account, or it could be in the trash under Local Folders.


If you're using imap, then the trash is on the email server.



How would I know POP or IMAP ?

It must be IMAP...?


Edit, Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings, select the account, and under 
Server Settings, at the top right, it will say Server Type. What does it 
say after that?




Ahh..yes...what a twit...didn't see that.

IMAP.

Am I stuck with how it now works?
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Re: Mail Trash Folder - ISP's or Mine (?)

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

DoctorBill wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:
When I read my e-mail and then delete it, the mail goes into the 
trash - as I have selected in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings".


But...it goes into the ISP's mail trash, not mine on my Hard Drive.

The selector in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" doesn't specify
which Trash Folder.

Is there some way to force this issue ?

If I want to go back and re-read or get something I later decide is
needed, I have to wait for the trash message to download (dial-up!).

Were it in MY trash, it would be immediately available.

Is there anything I can do about this ?

DoctorBill over the Hill


if you're using SM Mail, and if you're using pop access, then the 
trash is on your own computer.  Its either in the trash can for your 
account, or it could be in the trash under Local Folders.


If you're using imap, then the trash is on the email server.



How would I know POP or IMAP ?

It must be IMAP...?


Edit, Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings, select the account, and 
under Server Settings, at the top right, it will say Server Type. What 
does it say after that?




Ahh..yes...what a twit...didn't see that.

IMAP.

Am I stuck with how it now works?


no, there is a way, but I don't know imap so you'll 
have to wait until someone can help you.  It has 
something to do with the settings under that account. 
Something about downloading the messages to your 
hard-drive aswell.


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Re: Mail Trash Folder - ISP's or Mine (?)

[DoctorBill]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:
When I read my e-mail and then delete it, the mail goes into the 
trash - as I have selected in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings".


But...it goes into the ISP's mail trash, not mine on my Hard Drive.

The selector in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" doesn't specify
which Trash Folder.

Is there some way to force this issue ?

If I want to go back and re-read or get something I later decide is
needed, I have to wait for the trash message to download (dial-up!).

Were it in MY trash, it would be immediately available.

Is there anything I can do about this ?

DoctorBill over the Hill


if you're using SM Mail, and if you're using pop access, then the 
trash is on your own computer.  Its either in the trash can for 
your account, or it could be in the trash under Local Folders.


If you're using imap, then the trash is on the email server.



How would I know POP or IMAP ?

It must be IMAP...?


Edit, Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings, select the account, and 
under Server Settings, at the top right, it will say Server Type. 
What does it say after that?




Ahh..yes...what a twit...didn't see that.

IMAP.

Am I stuck with how it now works?


no, there is a way, but I don't know imap so you'll have to wait until 
someone can help you.  It has something to do with the settings under 
that account. Something about downloading the messages to your 
hard-drive aswell.




Well...thanks anyway.
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Re: Mail Trash Folder - ISP's or Mine (?)

[Leonidas Jones]

DoctorBill wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

When I read my e-mail and then delete it, the mail goes into the
trash - as I have selected in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings".

But...it goes into the ISP's mail trash, not mine on my Hard Drive.

The selector in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" doesn't specify
which Trash Folder.

Is there some way to force this issue ?

If I want to go back and re-read or get something I later decide is
needed, I have to wait for the trash message to download (dial-up!).

Were it in MY trash, it would be immediately available.

Is there anything I can do about this ?

DoctorBill over the Hill


if you're using SM Mail, and if you're using pop access, then the
trash is on your own computer. Its either in the trash can for
your account, or it could be in the trash under Local Folders.

If you're using imap, then the trash is on the email server.



How would I know POP or IMAP ?

It must be IMAP...?


Edit, Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings, select the account, and
under Server Settings, at the top right, it will say Server Type.
What does it say after that?



Ahh..yes...what a twit...didn't see that.

IMAP.

Am I stuck with how it now works?


no, there is a way, but I don't know imap so you'll have to wait until
someone can help you. It has something to do with the settings under
that account. Something about downloading the messages to your
hard-drive aswell.



Well...thanks anyway.


Firstly, many ISP's offer both POP and IMAP access.  With dialup, 
perhaps you would be better served with POP access, which downloads 
everything to your computer.


Still, with IMAP:

Edit>>Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings>>(account in question)>>Offline 
and Disk Space


Check the boxes for Offline use. Click the button for Select Folders.

Make sure Trash is selected.

Take SM offline, and those message should appear in your trash folder.

Lee

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Re: Is cacert not reliable?

[JeffM]

P.N. wrote:
>I wonder, why cacert (http://www.cacert.org/) isn't installed
>as a certificates issuer - any problems with it?
>Can I trust it, or shouldn't I for some reason?

Starting last Summer, there has been quite a dust-up
over the way Gecko handles certs.
http://google.com/search?q=cache:8lx1VCVm4jwJ:slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/08/04/0058217+*-website-*-using-*-self-signed-*.*.*.*.*-*.*-*.*+*-*-bundle-*-*-*-*-*+migrate-away-*-*.*-*+hey-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*+*-pretending+*-*-little-sense+not-just-*-paying-customers+*-*-*-*-*-*-*.*.*.*.*.*-*.and-no-certificate+*-click-four-times-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*+*-*-almost-useless-*-*-*-*+inc+inc+inc+looks.MORE.scary.and.LESS.secure#24465811

The Mozilla Foundation has caught Hell for it.
Mostly it's a lot of scaremongering on the part of the Gecko guys.

A number of the **pre-approved** CAs are steaming piles of fraud.
The certificates from many of those (which you accept by default)...
http://google.com/search?q=cache:sUyg-LAHMs4J:ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/18/1721234+authorized+Mozilla+Thats-more-*-*-*+*-*-*-*-*-*-throwaway-address+*-*-*-scammer-*-*-*-*+no.difference+verification+supposed+hypothetical+exploited+*-difference-*-*-key-*-*-*+free+*-*-*-*-*-audited-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*+*-nothing+Verisign+rss+actual+gentle+validated-to-your-*-identity+loose+accountability+StartSSL+CACert#24246653

(different spot on the same page)
http://google.com/search?q=cache:sUyg-LAHMs4J:ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/18/1721234+authorized+Mozilla+Thats-more-*-*-*+*-*-*-*-*-*-throwaway-address+*-*-*-scammer-*-*-*-*+no.difference+verification+supposed+hypothetical+exploited+*-difference-*-*-key-*-*-*+free+*-*-*-*-*-audited-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*+*-nothing+Verisign+rss+actual+gentle+validated-to-your-*-identity+loose+accountability+StartSSL+CACert#24247037

...are actually WORSE than the ones from CACert.
(another spot on that page)
http://google.com/search?q=cache:sUyg-LAHMs4J:ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/18/1721234+authorized+Mozilla+Thats-more-*-*-*+*-*-*-*-*-*-throwaway-address+*-*-*-scammer-*-*-*-*+no.difference+verification+supposed+hypothetical+exploited+*-difference-*-*-key-*-*-*+free+*-*-*-*-*-audited-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*+*-nothing+Verisign+rss+actual+gentle+validated-to-your-*-identity+loose+accountability+StartSSL+CACert#24247167

...and as has been mentioned,
CACert is on the cusp of being included by default.
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Re: Default e-mail client "contest."

[HeavyDuty]

Terry R. wrote:
The date and time was Tuesday, April 14, 2009 3:49:43 PM, and on a whim, 
HeavyDuty pounded out on the keyboard:



Seamonkey 1.1.16
Win XP Pro SP3
WordPerfect WPOX4 SP1.

For some strange reason, WordPerfect wants me to set my default e-mail 
client to MS Office 2007 Outlook (Macy's and Gimbel's?). The 
particular WP function has nothing to do with e-mail, but that's 
beside the point. If I do set my default e-mail client to Outlook, how 
will that affect Seamonkey?


Which version of X4 do you have?  Standard includes WP Mail, so why 
would it want MSO 2007 as the default?


Are you sure you're not confusing the AB?  Try looking under Tools, 
Settings, Environment,  In the Address Book window, choose "WordPerfect 
Address Book".



Terry R.

Sorry
It is Standard
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Re: Mail Trash Folder - ISP's or Mine (?)

[DoctorBill]

Leonidas Jones wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

When I read my e-mail and then delete it, the mail goes into the
trash - as I have selected in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings".

But...it goes into the ISP's mail trash, not mine on my Hard Drive.

The selector in "Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings" doesn't 
specify

which Trash Folder.

Is there some way to force this issue ?

If I want to go back and re-read or get something I later decide is
needed, I have to wait for the trash message to download 
(dial-up!).


Were it in MY trash, it would be immediately available.

Is there anything I can do about this ?

DoctorBill over the Hill


if you're using SM Mail, and if you're using pop access, then the
trash is on your own computer. Its either in the trash can for
your account, or it could be in the trash under Local Folders.

If you're using imap, then the trash is on the email server.



How would I know POP or IMAP ?

It must be IMAP...?


Edit, Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings, select the account, and
under Server Settings, at the top right, it will say Server Type.
What does it say after that?



Ahh..yes...what a twit...didn't see that.

IMAP.

Am I stuck with how it now works?


no, there is a way, but I don't know imap so you'll have to wait until
someone can help you. It has something to do with the settings under
that account. Something about downloading the messages to your
hard-drive aswell.



Well...thanks anyway.


Firstly, many ISP's offer both POP and IMAP access.  With dialup, 
perhaps you would be better served with POP access, which downloads 
everything to your computer.


Still, with IMAP:

Edit>>Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings>>(account in question)>>Offline 
and Disk Space


Check the boxes for Offline use. Click the button for Select Folders.

Make sure Trash is selected.

Take SM offline, and those message should appear in your trash folder.

Lee



OK..here's the thing...I had seen what you describe about the off line 
settings, but "Local Folders" doesn't show up there - Just my ISP's 
folders and this News Group.


The Folders under my ISP are on the ISP's disks.

If I send something out, it goes in my "Local Folders" SENT Folder.
If I want to save a message - it goes in my "Local Folders" .. 
Folder (I have many set up).


"Local Folders" shows up everywhere but the place you describe...?



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