[biofuels-biz] MIT: Hydrogen Car No Better than Diesel Hybrid

2003-05-05 Thread Keith Addison

http://lfee.mit.edu/features/hydrogen_vehicles
Laboratory For Energy and the Environment

Hydrogen fuel-cell vehicle won't reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 
2020; diesel and gasoline hybrids are a better bet, concludes an MIT 
study

Published in MIT Tech Talk, March 5, 2003.

Even with aggressive research, the hydrogen fuel-cell vehicle will 
not be better than the diesel hybrid (a vehicle powered by a 
conventional engine supplemented by an electric motor) in terms of 
total energy use and greenhouse gas emissions by 2020, says a study 
recently released by the Laboratory for Energy and the Environment 
(LFEE).

And while hybrid vehicles are already appearing on the roads, 
adoption of the hydrogen-based vehicle will require major 
infrastructure changes to make compressed hydrogen available. If we 
need to curb greenhouse gases within the next 20 years, improving 
mainstream gasoline and diesel engines and transmissions and 
expanding the use of hybrids is the way to go.

These results come from a systematic and comprehensive assessment of 
a variety of engine and fuel technologies as they are likely to be in 
2020 with intense research but no real breakthroughs. The 
assessment was led by Malcolm A. Weiss, LFEE senior research staff 
member, and John B. Heywood, the Sun Jae Professor of Mechanical 
Engineering and director of MIT's Laboratory for 21st-Century Energy.

Release of the study comes just a month after the Bush administration 
announced a billion-dollar initiative to develop commercially viable 
hydrogen fuel cells and a year after establishment of the 
government-industry program to develop the hydrogen fuel-cell-powered 
FreedomCar.

The new assessment is an extension of a study done in 2000, which 
likewise concluded that the much-touted hydrogen fuel cell was not a 
clear winner. This time, the MIT researchers used optimistic 
fuel-cell performance assumptions cited by some fuel-cell advocates, 
and the conclusion remained the same.

The hydrogen fuel-cell vehicle has low emissions and energy use on 
the road--but converting a hydrocarbon fuel such as natural gas or 
gasoline into hydrogen to fuel this vehicle uses substantial energy 
and emits greenhouse gases.

Ignoring the emissions and energy use involved in making and 
delivering the fuel and manufacturing the vehicle gives a misleading 
impression, said Weiss.

However, the researchers do not recommend stopping work on the 
hydrogen fuel cell. If auto systems with significantly lower 
greenhouse gas emissions are required in, say, 30 to 50 years, 
hydrogen is the only major fuel option identified to date, said 
Heywood. The hydrogen must, of course, be produced without making 
greenhouse gas emissions, hence from a non-carbon source such as 
solar energy or from conventional fuels while sequestering the carbon 
emissions.

The assessment highlights the advantages of the hybrid, a highly 
efficient approach that combines an engine (or a fuel cell) with a 
battery and an electric motor. Continuing to work on today's gasoline 
engine and its fuel will bring major improvements by 2020, cutting 
energy use and emissions by a third compared to today's vehicles. But 
aggressive research on a hybrid with a diesel engine could yield a 
2020 vehicle that is twice as efficient and half as polluting as that 
evolved technology, and future gasoline engine hybrids will not be 
far behind, the study says.

Other researchers on the study were Andreas Schafer, principal 
research engineer in the Center for Technology, Policy and Industrial 
Development, and Vinod K. Natarajan (S.M. 2002). The new report and 
the original On the Road in 2020 study from 2000 are available at 
http://lfee.mit.edu/publications under Reports (or see below).

CONTACT:
Nancy Stauffer
Laboratory for Energy and the Environment
(617) 253-3405
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Reports

* Comparative Assessment of Fuel Cell Cars (2003), by Malcolm A. 
Weiss, John B. Heywood, Andreas Schafer, and Vinod K. Natarajan. PDF 
Document
http://lfee.mit.edu/publications/PDF/LFEE_2003-001_RP.pdf

* On the Road in 2020: A Life-cycle Analysis of New Automobile 
Technologies (2000), by Malcolm A. Weiss, John B. Heywood, Elisabeth 
M. Drake, Andreas Schafer, and Felix F. AuYeung. PDF Document
http://lfee.mit.edu/publications/PDF/el00-003.pdf

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Re: [biofuel] MIT: Hydrogen Car No Better than Diesel Hybrid

2003-05-05 Thread Kim Nguyen

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bush and the current admin are pushing for the hydrogen cars 
because they want to revive the nuclear power industry...they see us using nukes 
to crack water and make hydrogen...what does everyone think about 
this?

kn
sac, ca
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/05/03 10:34AM 
http://lfee.mit.edu/features/hydrogen_vehiclesLaboratory 
For Energy and the EnvironmentHydrogen fuel-cell vehicle won't reduce 
greenhouse gas emissions by 2020; diesel and gasoline hybrids are a better 
bet, concludes an MIT studyPublished in MIT Tech Talk, March 5, 
2003.Even with aggressive research, the hydrogen fuel-cell vehicle will 
not be better than the diesel hybrid (a vehicle powered by a 
conventional engine supplemented by an electric motor) in terms of total 
energy use and greenhouse gas emissions by 2020, says a study recently 
released by the Laboratory for Energy and the Environment (LFEE).And 
while hybrid vehicles are already appearing on the roads, adoption of the 
hydrogen-based vehicle will require major infrastructure changes to make 
compressed hydrogen available. If we need to curb greenhouse gases within 
the next 20 years, improving mainstream gasoline and diesel engines and 
transmissions and expanding the use of hybrids is the way to 
go.These results come from a systematic and comprehensive assessment of 
a variety of engine and fuel technologies as they are likely to be in 
2020 with intense research but no real "breakthroughs." The assessment 
was led by Malcolm A. Weiss, LFEE senior research staff member, and John B. 
Heywood, the Sun Jae Professor of Mechanical Engineering and director of 
MIT's Laboratory for 21st-Century Energy.Release of the study comes just 
a month after the Bush administration announced a billion-dollar initiative 
to develop commercially viable hydrogen fuel cells and a year after 
establishment of the government-industry program to develop the hydrogen 
fuel-cell-powered "FreedomCar."The new assessment is an extension of 
a study done in 2000, which likewise concluded that the much-touted hydrogen 
fuel cell was not a clear winner. This time, the MIT researchers used 
optimistic fuel-cell performance assumptions cited by some fuel-cell 
advocates, and the conclusion remained the same.The hydrogen 
fuel-cell vehicle has low emissions and energy use on the road--but 
converting a hydrocarbon fuel such as natural gas or gasoline into hydrogen 
to fuel this vehicle uses substantial energy and emits greenhouse 
gases."Ignoring the emissions and energy use involved in making and 
delivering the fuel and manufacturing the vehicle gives a misleading 
impression," said Weiss.However, the researchers do not recommend 
stopping work on the hydrogen fuel cell. "If auto systems with significantly 
lower greenhouse gas emissions are required in, say, 30 to 50 years, 
hydrogen is the only major fuel option identified to date," said 
Heywood. The hydrogen must, of course, be produced without making 
greenhouse gas emissions, hence from a non-carbon source such as solar 
energy or from conventional fuels while sequestering the carbon 
emissions.The assessment highlights the advantages of the hybrid, a 
highly efficient approach that combines an engine (or a fuel cell) with a 
battery and an electric motor. Continuing to work on today's gasoline 
engine and its fuel will bring major improvements by 2020, cutting 
energy use and emissions by a third compared to today's vehicles. But 
aggressive research on a hybrid with a diesel engine could yield a 2020 
vehicle that is twice as efficient and half as polluting as that "evolved" 
technology, and future gasoline engine hybrids will not be far behind, the 
study says.Other researchers on the study were Andreas Schafer, 
principal research engineer in the Center for Technology, Policy and 
Industrial Development, and Vinod K. Natarajan (S.M. 2002). The new report 
and the original "On the Road in 2020" study from 2000 are available at 
http://lfee.mit.edu/publications 
under "Reports" (or see below).CONTACT:Nancy StaufferLaboratory 
for Energy and the Environment(617) 
253-3405[EMAIL PROTECTED]Reports* Comparative Assessment of 
Fuel Cell Cars (2003), by Malcolm A. Weiss, John B. Heywood, Andreas 
Schafer, and Vinod K. Natarajan. PDF Documenthttp://lfee.mit.edu/publications/PDF/LFEE_2003-001_RP.pdf* 
On the Road in 2020: A Life-cycle Analysis of New Automobile Technologies 
(2000), by Malcolm A. Weiss, John B. Heywood, Elisabeth M. Drake, Andreas 
Schafer, and Felix F. AuYeung. PDF Documenthttp://lfee.mit.edu/publications/PDF/el00-003.pdf 
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[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] MIT: Hydrogen Car No Better than Diesel Hybrid

2003-05-05 Thread Keith Addison

bush and the current admin are pushing for the hydrogen cars because
they want to revive the nuclear power industry...they see us using nukes
to crack water and make hydrogen...what does everyone think about this?

kn
sac, ca

Nukes and fossil-fuels both I'd say. This just in on nukes:


http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-nuke4may04,1,5129372.story

May 4, 2003

THE NATION

Nuclear Energy Industry Sees Its Fortunes Turning in Capital

By Richard Simon, Times Staff Writer

WASHINGTON - The U.S. nuclear power industry - at a virtual 
standstill for more than 20 years and looking particularly bleak 
after Sept. 11, 2001 - could be on the threshold of a comeback.

Since 1973, no company has ordered a nuclear plant that it eventually 
completed. Now, energy legislation expected to clear the Senate 
within the next few weeks would provide federal loan guarantees for 
up to half the cost of building as many as six new nuclear power 
plants.  

The federal loan guarantees would be just one part - although an 
important one - of a complicated economic and political puzzle that 
would need to be assembled before any nuclear plants are built. Wall 
Street still must be convinced of the economic viability of 
constructing such plants. And nuclear power remains controversial, 
with critics charging that the benefits aren't worth the risks of a 
catastrophic accident.

Security concerns spiked after Sept. 11. Doomsday scenarios 
envisioned a hijacked plane crashing into one of the nation's 103 
commercial nuclear power plants, potentially causing radiation leaks. 
Government officials beefed up security at plants and distributed 
nearly 10 million potassium iodide pills, which can help protect the 
thyroid in case of an emergency, to residents near plants.

Supporters of nuclear power believe it is important that the industry 
move forward again.

The industry's fortunes have improved under President Bush, who has 
made expansion of nuclear power a prime goal of his energy policy. 
They brightened more after Republicans gained control of both 
chambers of Congress in last year's elections and Sen. Pete V. 
Domenici (R-N.M.) became chairman of the Senate Energy and Natural 
Resources Committee.

Domenici, whose home state was the site of the first test of an 
atomic bomb in 1945 and today is where two national nuclear 
laboratories operate, is the author of the Senate legislation. He is 
confident about the prospects for the measure, citing congressional 
approval last year for designating Nevada's Yucca Mountain as the 
nation's nuclear waste repository.

Along with the loan guarantees, the Senate bill would authorize $1 
billion for building an advanced nuclear reactor in Idaho that 
would produce hydrogen, a fuel that Bush has championed for cars. If 
the demonstration [project] succeeds, it could well initiate a major 
nuclear reactor renaissance, said Jay E. Silberg, a Washington 
lawyer for nuclear utilities.

The Senate legislation and an energy bill approved by the House last 
month would extend a cap on the nuclear industry's liability in case 
of an accident. And both measures would authorize millions of dollars 
for nuclear research.

Although the House energy bill does not include the loan guarantees, 
the issue is likely to be on the table when House and Senate 
negotiators draw up a final measure.

Suffice to say America needs a strong nuclear power industry if 
we're going to meet our energy needs in the 21st century, said Ken 
Johnson, a spokesman for W.J. Billy Tauzin (R-La.), chairman of the 
House Energy and Commerce Committee.

Today, nuclear power generates about one-fifth of the nation's 
electricity. But high construction costs, as well as public protests 
after the 1979 accident at the Three Mile Island reactor in 
Pennsylvania, stopped the industry's growth.

Domenici has touted nuclear energy as a cleaner alternative to coal 
and oil. And he has argued that nuclear power is necessary to prevent 
the supply shortages and price spikes that occur from too much 
reliance on a single energy source.

Domenici has been one of the top recipients of campaign contributions 
from the nuclear power industry, receiving more than $67,000 from 
January 2001 through early 2002 in individual and political action 
committee donations from companies that own or build nuclear power 
plants, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a political 
watchdog group. The industry gave nearly $9 million overall to 
congressional candidates and political parties, almost two-thirds of 
it to Republicans.

But the industry's expansion still faces political opposition.

Until there's a [resolution] of the nuclear waste issue, it's 
ridiculous to even talk about expanding nuclear power, Sen. Harry 
Reid (D-Nev.) said. For instance, legal challenges to the use of 
Yucca Mountain for waste disposal are pending.

Additionally, he said, the public remains scared to death about 
nuclear power. 

Re: [biofuel] NESEA's Tour de Sol

2003-05-05 Thread Keith Addison

snip

If it reduces gasoline and oil use, you will see it at the Tour de Sol.
There will be over 50 exhibits from bicycles to buses and more.  Food.
Fun stuff for kids.  Visit with vehicle manufacturers and owners.  Talk
with hundreds of students and visionaries about their one-of-a-kind
Earth-friendly concept vehicles competing in the 2003 Tour de Sol
race for a sustainable future. Join us and learn how you can be part of
the solution.
(Drop the Join sentence, or how about Join us and embrace green
transportation??).

Oops! :-)

You're supposed to cut the editing suggestions before rushing into 
print. On this list the first option, drop it, would have been more 
apt - I think we're at least as much part of the solution as you are.

Perhaps you'd like to explain just how Tour de Sol is part of the 
solution? How many or how few of these one-of-a-kind Earth-friendly 
concept vehicles ever make it any further than the Tour de Sol 
itself to reduce gasoline and oil use in real life?

We take a broad view of biofuels and energy issues here, it's a 
forward-looking list with a lot of interest in and discussion of 
future potentials, but the list as a whole is fairly clear on the 
idea that it's only ready-to-use technologies that can make any real 
difference in the real-world race for a sustainable future. 
Implementation of other technologies will take decades to make a 
difference, and there aren't any decades to spare in this issue. That 
DOESN'T mean that we're against development of new approaches, quite 
the opposite, but it does mean we're not deluded about it either. In 
fact there's no shortage of solutions, it's getting them applied 
that's the problem, and we seem to be rather successful at that, 
along with many others working on biofuels issues.

So do you think Tour de Sol really is part of the solution as you 
claim, or just useful publicity and promotion of sustainable concepts?

Best

Keith


It's Free! For festival directions and more visit www.TourdeSol.org.

We're looking forward to seeing you.

Nancy Hazard,
Tour de Sol Director


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[biofuel] SUCCESS!!

2003-05-05 Thread mkitchin6548

Well!!  Did my first opil test this morning and then made a perfect
one litre batch. Will pour that in the good ols Vanagon tomorrow and
make the BIGGY - a 45 gallon batch.

Will keep you all posted - Have learned a LOT so far.

Bill in Az.



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[biofuel] Re: glycerin

2003-05-05 Thread girl_mark_fire

--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, brent3369 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok, reheated the glycerin I got from my first batch. It looks very 
 rich. It is thinner than molasses at room temp. Why would it remain 
 so thin? The information I have found suggests that it should be 
 solid, or close to it, at room temp.
 
Glycerine will have different consistencies depending in how heavily 
used the oil was and maybe what type of oil it is. Part or all (not 
sure which) of the gel is soap- that's what your lye turned into 
during the reaction. I rarely get solid glycerine because I use 
lightly used, high-quality oil to begin with. 
If you're heating the glycerine byproduct be aware it vents lots of 
methanol- don't breathe it.

 The diesel itself has a ph of 8.5, so I will bubble wash it and see 
 what happens.
 

you will probably find it harder to test the pH of the biodiesel as 
it approaches 'washed' than when it is unwashed.

Look here for some troubleshooting info if you have trouble in the 
wash process:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/message/21049
good luck,
mark


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Re: [biofuel] Ethanol production from oats

2003-05-05 Thread Ken Provost

Pham writes:


  I am doing a project about ethyl lactate production which needs
ethanol as an intermediate product. After considering raw material
prices as well as conversion factor, me and my friends shoot for oats
for raw material. But my professor raised the question why not corn
but oats while everybody produces ethanol from corn? Is it because
common sense tell us to use corn or any other reason behind?


 From my days as a homebrewer (ales), I seem to remember lots
of oats in the mash (eg, oatmeal stouts) can run the risk of a
stuck mash, where the grain gets so gummed up with that
soluble fiber that oats has, that you can't get the liquid out of
the grain. Also, oats are pretty high in fat -- might make some
weird additions to the mix if used in high percentage. Just guessing.

Out of curiosity, what are you doing with ethyl lactate? I was
interested in it myself once, as a possible fuel.-K

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Re: [biofuel] glycerin

2003-05-05 Thread Appal Energy

The glycerin layer is not just glycerin, nor is it primarily glycerin. The
rule of thumb is ~79 mililiters of glycerin for every liter of feedstock.
This actually makes the glycerin layer more of a soap layer than
anything else, at least if you name something by its highest constituent
volume or weight.

The glycerin layer is a combination of alcohol, soap and glycerin. The more
alcohol you use in your process, the less viscous the layer will be. If you
use potassium hydroxide rather than sodium hydroxide, the layer will be
slightly less viscous. (Potassium hydroxide is generally used to make liquid
soaps, while sodium hydroxide is generally used to make bar soaps.)

The more FFAs in the parent oil the more viscous the layer will be, as the
ratio of soap increases relative to the amount of glycerin and excess
alcohol.

And the type of FFAs and their ratio to each other will determine how hard
or thin the glycerin layer stays. A feedstock high in palmitic and stearic
acids will yield a harder soap (or more viscous glycerin layer) than a
feedstock with lower ratios.

Eeach feedstock will give you a byproduct of different physical properties.

Todd Swearingen

- Original Message -
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Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 3:59 PM
Subject: [biofuel] glycerin


 Ok, reheated the glycerin I got from my first batch. It looks very
 rich. It is thinner than molasses at room temp. Why would it remain
 so thin? The information I have found suggests that it should be
 solid, or close to it, at room temp.

 The diesel itself has a ph of 8.5, so I will bubble wash it and see
 what happens.

 Brent




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RE: [biofuel] land rover diesel conversion

2003-05-05 Thread Bryan Brah

The hardest part will probably be attaching the transmission to the
transfer case.  Check out www.advanceadapters.com
http://www.advanceadapters.com/  If they don't have (or can't make)
what you need they can probably suggest something that will work.  Good
luck.  -BRAH

 

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From: Josh Cohen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 11:45 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] land rover diesel conversion

 

hi all,

so just as i give up on my hunt for a diesel engine for my 97 land rover
d-90, i come across a  86 Iveco liquid cooled Fiat, direct injected,
turbo diesel from an 1986 iveco truck for 1000 bucks. It is in good
condition complete with injection pump, turbo, and starter ready to run.
The transmission is a Chrysler 727 automatic that Iveco used in the
trucks. will this be a match for my vehicle?i was hoping for a 300 tdi
which would require some major modifications of my car, and i am
wondering if this engine and trasmission would be a good fit as well and
will i need to add a ton of other parts? anyone have any ideas? (im this
close just leaving the rover alone for a while and getting a commuter
diesel that i can convert to svo).

josh


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Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002

2003-05-05 Thread Keith Addison

This report has something to say about travel in the US - whatever 
happened to the old WWII fuel-saving slogan Is your journey really 
necessary? Just how often, or how seldom, is the answer really 
yes? Chuck in the food miles issue (food travels an average 1,500 
miles to reach US supermarket shelves) and all the other unnecessary 
miles and it all adds up not only to huge amounts of wasted energy 
(and wars, no less, to secure the supplies so you can waste yet more) 
but to needless deaths.

---

U.S. workers are playing musical chairs with their jobs at the price 
of less productivity and more congestion and pollution, according to 
new census data released this week.  For example, take Arlington 
County, Va., where 70 percent of resident workers leave the county 
every day for jobs elsewhere -- and an even greater number of people 
stream into the county to work.  Unfortunately, Arlington County 
isn't an exception:  Around the country, 17 counties export and 
import at least half their workforce every weekday.  And many more 
are following a similar pattern, with 23 percent of Americans working 
outside their county of residence in 2000.  Jobs and workers are 
increasingly ending up far apart from each other, which is one reason 
for the nation's huge increase in travel time, according to Phillip 
Salopek of the population division of the U.S. Census Bureau.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0307/p02s01-ussc.html

March 07, 2003 edition

Even with jobs in suburbs, commutes get longer

More counties have a large share of imported workers and 'bedroom' residents.

By Laurent Belsie | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

Every weekday morning, Arlington County, Va., wakes up to a grinding 
form of musical chairs.

Some 70 percent of its resident workforce leaves the county to work 
somewhere else. Meanwhile, an even bigger phalanx of nonresidents 
come in to the county to do their jobs. The excess congestion, 
pollution, and lost productivity makes smart-growth advocates say: 
Isn't there a better way to handle sprawl than to swap suburban 
populations during the day?

Arlington can't be written off as a fluke. Gilpin County, just 
outside Denver, sends out nearly as great a share of workers as 
Arlington and gets a bigger share back. West Baton Rouge Parish in 
Louisiana sends out 60 percent of its workers and imports 60 percent 
more to do its work.

In all, 17 counties from Florida to Massachusetts to Colorado export 
and import at least half their workforce on a typical weekday. And 
scores more counties are moving toward that dubious distinction, 
according to new census figures released this week.

Even though jobs are following Americans out of the cities and into 
the suburbs, it seems the exoduses still don't line up. Indeed, jobs 
and workers often end up far apart. That's a major factor behind the 
three-minute increase in the nation's average commute during the 
1990s. And it explains why a growing share of Americans are crossing 
county lines to reach their jobs.

'A huge increase'

We certainly see a huge increase in travel time, says Phillip 
Salopek, a demographer in the population division of the US Census 
Bureau in Suitland, Md. Jobs move out to the suburbs, and employees 
move to exurbs.

The new data suggest that in the vast majority of counties - rural as 
well as urban - an increasing share of employees is crossing county 
lines to get to work. Nationally, 23 percent of Americans worked 
outside their county of residence in 2000 - up from 20 percent in 
1990 and 18 percent in 1980.

While much of this rise comes from workers' desire to live in less 
congested places, other factors also play a role.

Take housing prices. Some residential markets have gotten so pricey 
workers can't afford to live near their work. San Francisco County, 
Calif. - one of the nation's most expensive housing markets - imports 
nearly half its workforce.

Geography also plays a role. Because counties are smaller in the 
East, workers are more likely to cross them than workers in the West. 
Thus, the census county data underestimate the amount of commuting in 
the West.

Workers' skills and needs can also affect commuting. Arlington 
County, the home of the Pentagon, attracts highly skilled workers who 
may choose to live in more exclusive areas. At the same time, its 
housing may prove too costly for the people who staff the county's 
low-end service jobs, suggests Alan Pisarski, an independent 
travel-behavior consultant in Falls Church, Va., and author of 
Commuting in America.

He adds that since three-quarters of workers live in households with 
another worker, locating near one person's job may mean a long 
commute for another.

Busy rural roads

Interestingly, the growth in rural commuting seems just as strong as 
metro-area travel. For example, seven of the 17 musical-chair 
counties don't fall within a metropolitan area. And in five of those, 
most of the jobs for which workers are 

[biofuel] MIT: Hydrogen Car No Better than Diesel Hybrid

2003-05-05 Thread Keith Addison

http://lfee.mit.edu/features/hydrogen_vehicles
Laboratory For Energy and the Environment

Hydrogen fuel-cell vehicle won't reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 
2020; diesel and gasoline hybrids are a better bet, concludes an MIT 
study

Published in MIT Tech Talk, March 5, 2003.

Even with aggressive research, the hydrogen fuel-cell vehicle will 
not be better than the diesel hybrid (a vehicle powered by a 
conventional engine supplemented by an electric motor) in terms of 
total energy use and greenhouse gas emissions by 2020, says a study 
recently released by the Laboratory for Energy and the Environment 
(LFEE).

And while hybrid vehicles are already appearing on the roads, 
adoption of the hydrogen-based vehicle will require major 
infrastructure changes to make compressed hydrogen available. If we 
need to curb greenhouse gases within the next 20 years, improving 
mainstream gasoline and diesel engines and transmissions and 
expanding the use of hybrids is the way to go.

These results come from a systematic and comprehensive assessment of 
a variety of engine and fuel technologies as they are likely to be in 
2020 with intense research but no real breakthroughs. The 
assessment was led by Malcolm A. Weiss, LFEE senior research staff 
member, and John B. Heywood, the Sun Jae Professor of Mechanical 
Engineering and director of MIT's Laboratory for 21st-Century Energy.

Release of the study comes just a month after the Bush administration 
announced a billion-dollar initiative to develop commercially viable 
hydrogen fuel cells and a year after establishment of the 
government-industry program to develop the hydrogen fuel-cell-powered 
FreedomCar.

The new assessment is an extension of a study done in 2000, which 
likewise concluded that the much-touted hydrogen fuel cell was not a 
clear winner. This time, the MIT researchers used optimistic 
fuel-cell performance assumptions cited by some fuel-cell advocates, 
and the conclusion remained the same.

The hydrogen fuel-cell vehicle has low emissions and energy use on 
the road--but converting a hydrocarbon fuel such as natural gas or 
gasoline into hydrogen to fuel this vehicle uses substantial energy 
and emits greenhouse gases.

Ignoring the emissions and energy use involved in making and 
delivering the fuel and manufacturing the vehicle gives a misleading 
impression, said Weiss.

However, the researchers do not recommend stopping work on the 
hydrogen fuel cell. If auto systems with significantly lower 
greenhouse gas emissions are required in, say, 30 to 50 years, 
hydrogen is the only major fuel option identified to date, said 
Heywood. The hydrogen must, of course, be produced without making 
greenhouse gas emissions, hence from a non-carbon source such as 
solar energy or from conventional fuels while sequestering the carbon 
emissions.

The assessment highlights the advantages of the hybrid, a highly 
efficient approach that combines an engine (or a fuel cell) with a 
battery and an electric motor. Continuing to work on today's gasoline 
engine and its fuel will bring major improvements by 2020, cutting 
energy use and emissions by a third compared to today's vehicles. But 
aggressive research on a hybrid with a diesel engine could yield a 
2020 vehicle that is twice as efficient and half as polluting as that 
evolved technology, and future gasoline engine hybrids will not be 
far behind, the study says.

Other researchers on the study were Andreas Schafer, principal 
research engineer in the Center for Technology, Policy and Industrial 
Development, and Vinod K. Natarajan (S.M. 2002). The new report and 
the original On the Road in 2020 study from 2000 are available at 
http://lfee.mit.edu/publications under Reports (or see below).

CONTACT:
Nancy Stauffer
Laboratory for Energy and the Environment
(617) 253-3405
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Reports

* Comparative Assessment of Fuel Cell Cars (2003), by Malcolm A. 
Weiss, John B. Heywood, Andreas Schafer, and Vinod K. Natarajan. PDF 
Document
http://lfee.mit.edu/publications/PDF/LFEE_2003-001_RP.pdf

* On the Road in 2020: A Life-cycle Analysis of New Automobile 
Technologies (2000), by Malcolm A. Weiss, John B. Heywood, Elisabeth 
M. Drake, Andreas Schafer, and Felix F. AuYeung. PDF Document
http://lfee.mit.edu/publications/PDF/el00-003.pdf

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[biofuel] Two Futures, and a Choice

2003-05-05 Thread Keith Addison

A couple of months old, but some interesting info nonetheless.

Keith


http://www.fpif.org/commentary/2003/0303choice.html
Foreign Policy In Focus | Global Affairs Commentary

Two Futures, and a Choice

By Tom Athanasiou
March 6, 2003

Editor: John Gershman, Interhemispheric Resource Center (IRC)
Editor's Note: This piece was commissioned under the auspices of the 
Project Against the Present Danger.

Whether to invade Iraq, and whether to act aggressively to prevent 
catastrophic climate change may seem to be two separate decisions, 
but in fact they represent a single fateful choice about the future.

The war, it seems, is now all but inevitable. The Bush people are 
committed, and so too, inescapably, are we. For despite all we know 
about bombings and bitterness, and all we can safely predict about 
unintended consequences, the lock is in. The problem now is to 
compose a decent protest sign.

The climatic future, for its part, is still open, but it's closing in 
significant ways, and more rapidly than most people realize. And this 
despite the fact that 2002, for all its other grim distinctions, was 
also the year in which the greenhouse skeptics were finally 
recognized as the spiritual cousins of tobacco company PR men. Let 
one fact stand for them all: the Arctic ice is melting, fast; before 
the end of the century, polar bears will be extinct outside of zoos.

Furthermore, the climate negotiations are in trouble. And, frankly, 
it's looking less and less likely that we're going to be able to make 
it down into the soft landing corridor, to arrive, shaken but 
alive, somewhere this side of climate catastrophe. The problem has a 
million faces, but the U.S. effort to destroy the Kyoto Protocol 
certainly looms large among them. It comes to this: we Americans are 
only 4% of the world's population, but we emit 25% of its greenhouse 
gases. Moreover, we claim this vast atmospheric space as if it were 
our birthright. We won't pay for it--which is ultimately what the 
climate negotiations demand--and, indeed, our government seems 
increasingly willing to use force to protect our access to the 
cheap oil that, burned in the bellies of SUVs, rises again as carbon 
dioxide, and engenders floods, droughts, famines, and extinctions 
around the world.

One recent protest sign asked Just war or just oil? Alas, we know 
the answer all too well. The administration's view, after all, is 
available for all to read in the May 2001 report of the National 
Energy Policy Development Group, better known as the Cheney Report. 
Here we learn that the vice president expects U.S. oil imports to 
rise from 52% of total consumption in 1999 to over 70% percent in 
2020, and that because total oil use will also rise, the U.S. will 
have to import 60% more oil in 2020 than it does today; Cheney's team 
sees U.S. oil imports rising from the current 10.4 million barrels 
per day to an estimated 16.7 million barrels per day in 2020.

These are, of course, badly cooked numbers, relying on strangely low 
projections of domestic oil production, and linear extrapolations of 
oil consumption. Cheney didn't say that oil consumption will rise, 
but rather that it would have to grow. As in To meet U.S. oil 
demand [in 2020] oil and product imports would have to grow by a 
combined 7.5 million barrels per day. It's a big difference: not a 
statement of fact, but a choice of a future.

But many analysts, including those at the Department of Energy's own 
National Laboratories and Boston's Tellus Institute, have shown that 
there is another future, a cleaner but not poorer future in which oil 
imports can be reduced without drilling in America's remaining 
wilderness areas. The DOE's Clean Energy Futures study shows that 
U.S. oil consumption can remain near 2000 levels through 2020--a 21% 
reduction below their own business as usual projections and more 
than 30% below Cheney's inflated numbers--without harming the economy 
one whit. And Tellus' 2001 report, The American Way to the Kyoto 
Protocol, goes further, projecting even greater reductions in both 
energy use and greenhouse pollution at a net savings of $50 billion 
per year.

None of these scenarios eliminate U.S. oil imports completely; nor do 
they reduce U.S. greenhouse gas emissions to a long-term, sustainable 
per capita level. But they show that policies and technologies 
available today can put us on a new path--a path to both a cleaner 
environment and real global cooperation.

That path, of course, would be a long one, and full of surprises. But 
unlike the path that the Cheney team would have us think inevitable, 
it would open into a future worth having.

And it's there to be taken.

(Tom Athanasiou [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the co-author of Dead Heat: 
Global Justice and Global Warming and a regular contributor to 
Foreign Policy In Focus (online at www.fpif.org).)

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Re: [biofuel] 1.9 vw diesel without turbo

2003-05-05 Thread William English


--- Stanley Baer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Remember someone asking about putting a VW diesel
 engine in a Japanese 
 pickup.  That was me and I put a 1.6 litre diesel
 out of a 86 Golf in a 
 92 Isuzu 4X4 pickup.  My problem is that the thing
 is terribly 
 underpowered, I can't get it over a 100 km/hour on a
 flat road.  Hills 
 are a big problem.  The swap does not allow for a
 turbo because it would 
 interfere with the Isuzu starter.  Would a 1.9 TD
 without the turbo work 
 and how much power would it have?
 
 Stan
 You make no mention of other modifications, which
leads me to believe you are thinking of just doing
without the turbo. Here are a couple of things that
would be taken into account when an engine is at the
design stage.
Air is about 23% oxygen, the rest being mostly
nitrogen and trace gases (as this concerns combustion,
the rest doesn’t matter).
At sea level, 1 cubic foot of air weighs around 0.076
lb (0.034kg) @ 60° F (15.55° C).
In order to efficiently burn 1 lb (0.45 kg) of diesel
oil, 3.33 lbs (1.51kg) of oxygen is required. As air
is 23% oxygen (by weight – 21% by volume) to burn 1 US
gal 
(3.78 lts) of diesel at sea level will take about
1,500 cubic ft (42.47 cubic m) of air @ 60°F and more
will be needed at higher altitude and temperatures.
As the flow of air is critical, an engine designed to
be turbocharged needs a turbo to provide enough air to
run at optimum efficiency. 
Hope this is of use to you,
William.
Ps I took the above figures from Marine Diesel Engines
by Nigel Calder

 
 


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Re: [biofuel] FLUID PUMP , METAL PREFILTER , MICRON SIZE FILTER ,BALL , WVO BURNER

2003-05-05 Thread Daisy Geerst

Dear professor Kwang,
I am interested in your complete set or pieces.
please send info/foto's and prices.
best regards
karel vertommen

--- albert_kwong2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I have designed and test proved and currently in use
 of above items 
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 small fluid pumps , 
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 small perfect 
 drillable metal ball, 0.01 inch drill bit, for fuel
 and WVO and 
 Barbington test ) and find it very handy and
 successful , all at a 
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 trying to locate it 
 and piece meal it yourself with no fun at all. 
 
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Re: [biofuel] MIT: Hydrogen Car No Better than Diesel Hybrid

2003-05-05 Thread Kim Nguyen

bush and the current admin are pushing for the hydrogen cars because
they want to revive the nuclear power industry...they see us using nukes
to crack water and make hydrogen...what does everyone think about this?

kn
sac, ca


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/05/03 10:34AM 
http://lfee.mit.edu/features/hydrogen_vehicles
Laboratory For Energy and the Environment

Hydrogen fuel-cell vehicle won't reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 
2020; diesel and gasoline hybrids are a better bet, concludes an MIT 
study

Published in MIT Tech Talk, March 5, 2003.

Even with aggressive research, the hydrogen fuel-cell vehicle will 
not be better than the diesel hybrid (a vehicle powered by a 
conventional engine supplemented by an electric motor) in terms of 
total energy use and greenhouse gas emissions by 2020, says a study 
recently released by the Laboratory for Energy and the Environment 
(LFEE).

And while hybrid vehicles are already appearing on the roads, 
adoption of the hydrogen-based vehicle will require major 
infrastructure changes to make compressed hydrogen available. If we 
need to curb greenhouse gases within the next 20 years, improving 
mainstream gasoline and diesel engines and transmissions and 
expanding the use of hybrids is the way to go.

These results come from a systematic and comprehensive assessment of 
a variety of engine and fuel technologies as they are likely to be in 
2020 with intense research but no real breakthroughs. The 
assessment was led by Malcolm A. Weiss, LFEE senior research staff 
member, and John B. Heywood, the Sun Jae Professor of Mechanical 
Engineering and director of MIT's Laboratory for 21st-Century Energy.

Release of the study comes just a month after the Bush administration 
announced a billion-dollar initiative to develop commercially viable 
hydrogen fuel cells and a year after establishment of the 
government-industry program to develop the hydrogen fuel-cell-powered 
FreedomCar.

The new assessment is an extension of a study done in 2000, which 
likewise concluded that the much-touted hydrogen fuel cell was not a 
clear winner. This time, the MIT researchers used optimistic 
fuel-cell performance assumptions cited by some fuel-cell advocates, 
and the conclusion remained the same.

The hydrogen fuel-cell vehicle has low emissions and energy use on 
the road--but converting a hydrocarbon fuel such as natural gas or 
gasoline into hydrogen to fuel this vehicle uses substantial energy 
and emits greenhouse gases.

Ignoring the emissions and energy use involved in making and 
delivering the fuel and manufacturing the vehicle gives a misleading 
impression, said Weiss.

However, the researchers do not recommend stopping work on the 
hydrogen fuel cell. If auto systems with significantly lower 
greenhouse gas emissions are required in, say, 30 to 50 years, 
hydrogen is the only major fuel option identified to date, said 
Heywood. The hydrogen must, of course, be produced without making 
greenhouse gas emissions, hence from a non-carbon source such as 
solar energy or from conventional fuels while sequestering the carbon 
emissions.

The assessment highlights the advantages of the hybrid, a highly 
efficient approach that combines an engine (or a fuel cell) with a 
battery and an electric motor. Continuing to work on today's gasoline 
engine and its fuel will bring major improvements by 2020, cutting 
energy use and emissions by a third compared to today's vehicles. But 
aggressive research on a hybrid with a diesel engine could yield a 
2020 vehicle that is twice as efficient and half as polluting as that 
evolved technology, and future gasoline engine hybrids will not be 
far behind, the study says.

Other researchers on the study were Andreas Schafer, principal 
research engineer in the Center for Technology, Policy and Industrial 
Development, and Vinod K. Natarajan (S.M. 2002). The new report and 
the original On the Road in 2020 study from 2000 are available at 
http://lfee.mit.edu/publications under Reports (or see below).

CONTACT:
Nancy Stauffer
Laboratory for Energy and the Environment
(617) 253-3405
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Reports

* Comparative Assessment of Fuel Cell Cars (2003), by Malcolm A. 
Weiss, John B. Heywood, Andreas Schafer, and Vinod K. Natarajan. PDF 
Document
http://lfee.mit.edu/publications/PDF/LFEE_2003-001_RP.pdf

* On the Road in 2020: A Life-cycle Analysis of New Automobile 
Technologies (2000), by Malcolm A. Weiss, John B. Heywood, Elisabeth 
M. Drake, Andreas Schafer, and Felix F. AuYeung. PDF Document
http://lfee.mit.edu/publications/PDF/el00-003.pdf


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Re: [biofuel] 1.9 vw diesel without turbo

2003-05-05 Thread mustangsqd

Hi STan - This may seem like a silly question - but why are your running an 
Izusu starter on a VW engine ?  You can ad a turbo to the engine you have - 
if you 
construct your exhaust properly. The most important thing is to size the 
turbo  compressor and turbine wheels and their respective housings 
appropriately. This is the most important issue to reduce turbo lag and have 
the turbo kick in when you need it. Also - try to get a water cooled turbo 
housing - it will keep the bearings from cooking.

I highly recommend the book  Turbochargers by Hugh McInnes- very 
straightforward, easy to understand and implement concepts and ideas. Also- 
try calling Turbo City in California (L.A ? ) They have been around for 
years and know their business.

Finally - the 1.9 L is not quite 20% bigger than your current engine - Have 
you actually checked with VW to see if the Hp is 20 greater than waht you 
have now?

Perhaps you should check out some VW enthusiast sites to get some ideas. 
YOu've already done one swap and it's not what you want - get the facts on 
your new idea before you have to do the job twice...Ed


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2003-05-05 Thread kirk

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[biofuel] The Secrets of September 11

2003-05-05 Thread MH

 The Secrets of September 11 

 The White House is battling to keep a report on the terror attacks
 secret. Does the 2004 election have anything to do with it? 
 NEWSWEEK WEB EXCLUSIVE
 http://www.msnbc.com/news/907379.asp 

 April 30, 2003 ÷  Even as White House political aides plot a
 2004 campaign plan designed to capitalize on the
 emotions and issues raised by the September 11 terror
 attacks, administration officials are waging a
 behind-the-scenes battle to restrict public disclosure of
 key events relating to the attacks. 
AT THE CENTER of the dispute is a more-than-800-page
 secret report prepared by a joint congressional inquiry detailing
 the intelligence and law-enforcement failures that preceded the
 attacks÷including provocative, if unheeded warnings, given
 President Bush and his top advisers during the summer of
 2001. 
The report was completed last December; only a
 bare-bones list of ãfindingsä with virtually no details was made
 public. But nearly six months later, a ãworking groupä of Bush
 administration intelligence officials assigned to review the
 document has taken a hard line against further public
 disclosure. By refusing to declassify many of its most
 significant conclusions, the administration has essentially
 thwarted congressional plans to release the report by the end of
 this month, congressional and administration sources tell
 NEWSWEEK. In some cases, these sources say, the
 administration has even sought to ãreclassifyä some material
 that was already discussed in public testimony÷a move one
 Senate staffer described as ãludicrous.ä The administrationâs
 stand has infuriated the two members of Congress who
 oversaw the report÷Democratic Sen. Bob Graham and
 Republican Rep. Porter Goss. The two are now preparing a
 letter of complaint to Vice President Dick Cheney.
Graham is ãincreasingly frustratedä by the administrationâs
 ãunwillingness to release what he regards as important
 information the public should have about 9-11,ä a spokesman
 said. In Grahamâs view, the Bush administration isnât
 protecting legitimate issues of national security but information
 that could be a political ãembarrassment,ä the aide said.
 Graham, who last year served as Senate Intelligence Committee
 chairman, recently told NEWSWEEK: ãThere has been a
 cover-up of this.ä
Grahamâs stand may not be terribly surprising, given that
 the Florida Democrat is running for president and is seeking to
 use the issue himself politically. But he has found a strong ally
 in House Intelligence Committee Chairman Goss, a staunch
 Republican (and former CIA officer) who in the past has
 consistently defended the administrationâs handling of 9-11
 issues and is considered especially close to Cheney. 
ãI find this process horrendously frustrating,ä Goss said in
 an interview. He was particularly piqued that the administration
 was refusing to declassify material that top intelligence officials
 had already testified about. ãSenior intelligence officials said
 things in public hearings that they [administration officials]
 donât want us to put in the report,ä said Goss. ãThatâs not
 something I can rationally accept without further public
 explanation.ä
Unlike Graham, Goss insists there are no political
 ãgotchasä in the report, only a large volume of important
 information about the performance and shortcomings of U.S.
 intelligence and law-enforcement agencies prior to September
 11.
And even congressional staffers close to the process say it
 is unclear whether the administrationâs resistance to public
 disclosure reflects fear of political damage or simply an
 ingrained ãculture of secrecyä that permeates the intelligence
 community÷and has strong proponents at the highest levels of
 the White House.
The mammoth report reflects nearly 10 months of
 investigative work by a special staff hired jointly by the House
 and Senate Intelligence Committees and overseen by Eleanor
 Hill, a former federal prosecutor and Pentagon inspector
 general. Hillâs team got access to hundreds of thousands of
 pages of classified documents from the CIA, FBI, National
 Security Agency and other executive-branch agencies. The
 staff also conducted scores of interviews with senior officials,
 field agents and intelligence officers. (They were not, however,
 given access to some top White House aides, such as
 national-security adviser Condoleezza Rice or other principals
 like Secretary of State Colin Powell or Secretary of Defense
 Donald Rumsfeld.) The teamâs report was approved by the two
 intelligence committees last Dec. 10. But because the document
 relied so heavily on secret material, the administration ãworking
 group,ä overseen by CIA director George Tenet, had to first
 ãscrubä the document and determine which portions could be
 declassified.
More than two months later, the 

Re: [biofuel] MIT: Hydrogen Car No Better than Diesel Hybrid

2003-05-05 Thread Hakan Falk


Once somewhat involved in the design and building of the last
reactors in Sweden, I am not a starch opponent of nuclear
one pass power. It is the enrichment of several passes and the
massive amount of enriched material it results in, that make
me a very strong opponent to nuclear power. Without several
passes, we only have fuel for 60 years more and it will be
better to not use it at all, than produce a world that have so
much enriched material that it will be impossible to control.

I also think that Bush  Co are looking very much to the
large US coal reserves, when they talking about hydrogen.
It does not make sense to look at oil products for the US
independence, when  the US R/P is only 11,7 years for its
own resources. The coal with over 200 years R/P makes
more sense for independence, but a disaster for environment.
The President who takes this route will kill his own people,
for the interest of corporate profits.

My opinion is that a maximizing of energy saving, combined
with good biofuel production is the only short term ready for use
technologies. Solar and wind products are today commodities
and give some more legs to stand on. For developing countries,
this might be the only path to the future. For US also, but first
they have to give up the idea of corporate energy control and
a silver bullet solution, that process could be very difficult. It
is also boring hard work that has to be done and that is not
really the American way of life.

Hakan



At 11:47 AM 5/6/2003 +0900, you wrote:
 bush and the current admin are pushing for the hydrogen cars because
 they want to revive the nuclear power industry...they see us using nukes
 to crack water and make hydrogen...what does everyone think about this?
 
 kn
 sac, ca

Nukes and fossil-fuels both I'd say. This just in on nukes:


http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-nuke4may04,1,5129372.story

May 4, 2003

THE NATION

Nuclear Energy Industry Sees Its Fortunes Turning in Capital

By Richard Simon, Times Staff Writer

WASHINGTON - The U.S. nuclear power industry - at a virtual
standstill for more than 20 years and looking particularly bleak
after Sept. 11, 2001 - could be on the threshold of a comeback.

Since 1973, no company has ordered a nuclear plant that it eventually
completed. Now, energy legislation expected to clear the Senate
within the next few weeks would provide federal loan guarantees for
up to half the cost of building as many as six new nuclear power
plants.

The federal loan guarantees would be just one part - although an
important one - of a complicated economic and political puzzle that
would need to be assembled before any nuclear plants are built. Wall
Street still must be convinced of the economic viability of
constructing such plants. And nuclear power remains controversial,
with critics charging that the benefits aren't worth the risks of a
catastrophic accident.

Security concerns spiked after Sept. 11. Doomsday scenarios
envisioned a hijacked plane crashing into one of the nation's 103
commercial nuclear power plants, potentially causing radiation leaks.
Government officials beefed up security at plants and distributed
nearly 10 million potassium iodide pills, which can help protect the
thyroid in case of an emergency, to residents near plants.

Supporters of nuclear power believe it is important that the industry
move forward again.

The industry's fortunes have improved under President Bush, who has
made expansion of nuclear power a prime goal of his energy policy.
They brightened more after Republicans gained control of both
chambers of Congress in last year's elections and Sen. Pete V.
Domenici (R-N.M.) became chairman of the Senate Energy and Natural
Resources Committee.

Domenici, whose home state was the site of the first test of an
atomic bomb in 1945 and today is where two national nuclear
laboratories operate, is the author of the Senate legislation. He is
confident about the prospects for the measure, citing congressional
approval last year for designating Nevada's Yucca Mountain as the
nation's nuclear waste repository.

Along with the loan guarantees, the Senate bill would authorize $1
billion for building an advanced nuclear reactor in Idaho that
would produce hydrogen, a fuel that Bush has championed for cars. If
the demonstration [project] succeeds, it could well initiate a major
nuclear reactor renaissance, said Jay E. Silberg, a Washington
lawyer for nuclear utilities.

The Senate legislation and an energy bill approved by the House last
month would extend a cap on the nuclear industry's liability in case
of an accident. And both measures would authorize millions of dollars
for nuclear research.

Although the House energy bill does not include the loan guarantees,
the issue is likely to be on the table when House and Senate
negotiators draw up a final measure.

Suffice to say America needs a strong nuclear power industry if
we're going to meet our energy needs in the 21st century, said Ken

[biofuel] Re: Here's the proof: was, I think Bush pressed the button

2003-05-05 Thread Keith Addison

Icarus Solem wrote:

Yes, it seems true.  There is a guy named Chris Floyd on the web who has
been writing about that for some time.  Apparently, the fossil fuel lobby
is behind all these people (even the Gore family has $500,000 + in
Occidental Petroleum stock), and the Bush Administration
Cheney-Halliburton, Rice-Chevron, Whitman-Amoco, Bush-Harken (use their
full names,now) reads like a who's-who - not even bothering to use proxy
politicians anymore - of the 'Seven Sisters' of Standard Oil.

Don't forget Rumsfeld:

http://www.TomPaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/7577

Rumsfeld's Old Flame 

Everyone's heard of Vice President Dick Cheney's ties to Halliburton, 
a company standing on the brink of a bonanza as the government doles 
out post-war reconstruction dollars. But not enough has been revealed 
about Bechtel, a reported finalist for the first round of contracts, 
and its connections to another of the war's architects: Defense 
Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. It's a sordid little tale, and one that 
calls into question the depth of Rumsfeld's virtuous claims about his 
intentions to liberate the Iraqis.

[more]

In Crude Vision: How Oil Interests Obscured US Government Focus On 
Chemical Weapons Use by Saddam Hussein the Institute for Policy 
Studies reveals that the diplomatic pressure from Rumsfeld and the 
Reagan administration happened during and despite Hussein's use of 
chemical weapons. Behind the scenes, these officials worked for two 
years attempting to secure the billion dollar pipeline scheme for 
the Bechtel corporation. The Bush/Cheney administration now eyes 
Bechtel as a primary contractor for the rebuilding of Iraq's 
infrastructure.

- From: Rumsfeld Ignored Weapons Of Mass Destruction In Pursuit Of 
Oil Pipeline
http://www.seen.org/pages/reports/crude.shtml

http://www.ips-dc.org/crudevision/crude_vision.pdf

It is the
old game of global domination and control, based on the world trade in
fossil fuels, backed up the fact that oil must be traded in dollars.  Who
pays the price?  The people of Argentina, the Middle East, Columbia,
Venezuela, California, etc.

Closely tied to the military... I've been watching this unfolding 
since the 70s, especially after the fall of the Shah of Iran, with 
the sneaky step-by-step back-door moves of what was then called the 
Rapid Deployment Force to station US troops in Saudi Arabia, finally 
accomplished with Gulf War v1, and, I'm certain, a, or even the, 
major goal of Gulf War v1. Horrific consequences have been predicted 
for 25 years, including by me. Sept 11 fits the bill pretty well. How 
much simpler it would have been just to have dealt honestly and 
honorably with Mossadeq in Iran in the 50s in the first place, 
instead of a sleazy CIA-backed coup to salve the paranoias of the 
Seven Sisters. And what a sad and futile path we've all travelled 
since then, and still travel now, because of these blind, arrogant, 
murderous and downright insane fools. Christians they call 
themselves, huh. Three blind monkeys they worship - greed, fear and 
hatred.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2003/10/ma_273_01.html
MotherJones.com | News

The Thirty-Year Itch

Three decades ago, in the throes of the energy crisis, Washington's 
hawks conceived of a strategy for US control of the Persian Gulf's 
oil. Now, with the same strategists firmly in control of the White 
House, the Bush administration is playing out their script for global 
dominance.
By Robert Dreyfuss
March/April 2003 Issue
P L U S :
Oil and Arms: An In-Depth Look

If you were to spin the globe and look for real estate critical to 
building an American empire, your first stop would have to be the 
Persian Gulf. The desert sands of this region hold two of every three 
barrels of oil in the world -- Iraq's reserves alone are equal, by 
some estimates, to those of Russia, the United States, China, and 
Mexico combined. For the past 30 years, the Gulf has been in the 
crosshairs of an influential group of Washington foreign-policy 
strategists, who believe that in order to ensure its global 
dominance, the United States must seize control of the region and its 
oil. Born during the energy crisis of the 1970s and refined since 
then by a generation of policymakers, this approach is finding its 
boldest expression yet in the Bush administration -- which, with its 
plan to invade Iraq and install a regime beholden to Washington, has 
moved closer than any of its predecessors to transforming the Gulf 
into an American protectorate.

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Sometimes two plus two does add up to four.

Unfortunately, people with ties to the US economic system can't seem to
think beyond the amount of cash in their pockets.  The double-blind
system, where individuals see their 'fund performance' and funds see their
'companies performance' and CEO's serve their shareholders first, and
their upper management second, and their lower-level staff and communities
last...well, this 'double blind' means that the average citizen