Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration
Serge Wroclawski-2 wrote: > > How does authentication work on the API level with OpenID? > Preferably through OAuth, but the account can/should still have a password associated just like before in case you need basic auth in the API -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/User-diary-enhancements-subscriptions-Facebook-Twitter-integration-tp6340003p6340521.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Kai Krueger wrote: > For example, if you hit the edit button without having an account, you get > redirected to the login page. If you then hit e.g. the gmail button you will > automatically get to the create account page with some of the details > already pre-filled in (coming from the OpenID provider) You then only have > to confirm the account creation and the CT. Once done, you are logged in and > automatically referred back to Potlatch for editing. How does authentication work on the API level with OpenID? - Serge ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration
Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Also, don't misunderstand how the OpenID login works - you will still > have to create an account with OSM, it's only that your everyday login > will be simplified. So anyone for whom the signup is an insurmountable > hurdle will not join - whether we support OpenID or not. > You do still need to create an account, but OpenID does hopefully make that step easier too. For example, if you hit the edit button without having an account, you get redirected to the login page. If you then hit e.g. the gmail button you will automatically get to the create account page with some of the details already pre-filled in (coming from the OpenID provider) You then only have to confirm the account creation and the CT. Once done, you are logged in and automatically referred back to Potlatch for editing. If you are using an OpenID provider that returns an email address we can trust (e.g. gmail), you also no longer need to confirm your email address. So you should be able to start editing from not having an account within 4 or 5 clicks. (I haven't checked to verify the exact number) Not entirely seamlessly, but hopefully easier than the current workflow of creating an account. Kai -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/User-diary-enhancements-subscriptions-Facebook-Twitter-integration-tp6340003p6340438.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration
Hi, Mike N wrote: Facebook is imho less likely, as as far as I know, it uses a proprietary protocol and so I would be less enthused to support that. It depends on the type of mapper we're trying to attract. Using the Facebook login will be the simplest possible way to get started for many people. I agree with Kai that supporting proprietary data-gathering platforms like Facebook would be very low on my list, or maybe even actively opposed by me. Also, don't misunderstand how the OpenID login works - you will still have to create an account with OSM, it's only that your everyday login will be simplified. So anyone for whom the signup is an insurmountable hurdle will not join - whether we support OpenID or not. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration
On 5/7/2011 10:26 AM, Kai Krueger wrote: Facebook is imho less likely, as as far as I know, it uses a proprietary protocol and so I would be less enthused to support that. It depends on the type of mapper we're trying to attract. Using the Facebook login will be the simplest possible way to get started for many people. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration
Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Well I'd say that OpenID is enough. And there's an OpenID branch of the > Rails Port that already goes so some length supporting that. > Yes, there is a fully functional OpenID implementation. http://openid.dev.openstreetmap.org/ However, it currently doesn't seem to have the political support necessary to get it merged. But perhaps if enough people express their interest this might change. It currently only supports OpenID, so it doesn't work with Twitter or Facebook, as they have implemented their own login protocol, however it does work with things like gmail and yahoo mail and any other provider supporting OpenID, which is quite a number. It would be possible to support login via twitter as well, should the OpenID branch ever get deployed, as it uses an authentication based on OAuth, which shouldn't be too difficult to implement. Facebook is imho less likely, as as far as I know, it uses a proprietary protocol and so I would be less enthused to support that. Kai -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/User-diary-enhancements-subscriptions-Facebook-Twitter-integration-tp6340003p6340182.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration
Hi, On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > > Josh Doe wrote: > >> That got me wondering about adding the possibility to share posts with >> Facebook/Twitter/etc, and then even allowing login to OSM with >> Facebook/OpenID, and who knows what else. >> > > Well I'd say that OpenID is enough. And there's an OpenID branch of the > Rails Port that already goes so some length supporting that. > > > I know we need to be careful >> about not trying to implement a full blown blogging platform, but I >> think it's important to have some of these features. >> > > We might also go in the other direction, acknowledge that we're not a > blogging platform, and try for better integration with sites that are... new > users already seem to be quite confused by the multitude of options to > express oneself in OSM. > > There's already blogs.openstreetmap.org that aggregates OSM-related blogging. I have posted only a few diary entries over the years, and to me the diary system does not make a lot of sense unless there's tighter integration with changesets or the map, but then again, I haven't done a thing to improve the diary system myself, so what am I even talking about. -- Martijn van Exel http://about.me/mvexel ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration
Hi, Josh Doe wrote: That got me wondering about adding the possibility to share posts with Facebook/Twitter/etc, and then even allowing login to OSM with Facebook/OpenID, and who knows what else. Well I'd say that OpenID is enough. And there's an OpenID branch of the Rails Port that already goes so some length supporting that. I know we need to be careful about not trying to implement a full blown blogging platform, but I think it's important to have some of these features. We might also go in the other direction, acknowledge that we're not a blogging platform, and try for better integration with sites that are... new users already seem to be quite confused by the multitude of options to express oneself in OSM. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration
On 07/05/2011 13:05, Josh Doe wrote: That got me wondering about adding the possibility to share posts with Facebook/Twitter/etc, You can already get them on twitter by following @osmblogs David ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Josh Doe wrote: > Has there been any discussion of enhancing the user diary system? I > couldn't find any discussions on the wiki or lists, but please point > me to them if they exist. Yes, there has. In a number of ways, and different people have different ideas. > My number one suggestion is that we allow users to subscribe to > certain diary posts. I'll comment on an entry, and then someone will > follow up, but I'll have no idea unless I remember to go back and > check. If you feel strongly about it, code it up, demonstrate it and submit it as a patch. > I don't know anything about Ruby or Rails, but maybe someday I could > take a stab at it myself, or maybe someone here has the interest and > skills. The way things get done in the project is by demonstrating them. Discussions take weeks/months/years but if you can show demonstratable code, there's a much higher likelyhood of it being accepted into the mainstream code base. The rails port is in git (so it's easy to fork and get started), and has a dev environment with sample data so you can jump right in. - Serge ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] User diary enhancements, subscriptions, Facebook/Twitter integration
Has there been any discussion of enhancing the user diary system? I couldn't find any discussions on the wiki or lists, but please point me to them if they exist. My number one suggestion is that we allow users to subscribe to certain diary posts. I'll comment on an entry, and then someone will follow up, but I'll have no idea unless I remember to go back and check. That got me wondering about adding the possibility to share posts with Facebook/Twitter/etc, and then even allowing login to OSM with Facebook/OpenID, and who knows what else. I know we need to be careful about not trying to implement a full blown blogging platform, but I think it's important to have some of these features. I don't know anything about Ruby or Rails, but maybe someday I could take a stab at it myself, or maybe someone here has the interest and skills. Regards, -Josh ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags
Lennard wrote: > On 6-5-2011 20:44, Pierre-Alain Dorange wrote: > >> I could not really help you (i don't know your region, but as i can see >> (using JOSM) there is no admin relation in this area, so few clues to >> help nomatim to find location. > > The entire Netherlands is covered by admin relations. Of course, > occasionally, these get broken. Also, not every admin_level=10 is there > yet. Up to z8 is complete, barring broken data. > > The municipality is here: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/188858 > > However, we don't have an admin_level=10 relation for the town called > Helden, on account of the municipality not giving us their boundaries > yet. There's another mapper tracing these from official documents (less > accurate than receiving the original geo data, but alas), but he doesn't > seem to have done this yet. I have added admin_level=10 with data from 6pp and own knowledge. It's probably a bit crude compared with original sources but I think it is correct. It still does not explain the zipcode though. Regards, Maarten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
