Re: [OSM-talk] Up-to-Date, Minutely Mapnik Bookmarklet
> After a recent spate of OSM activity, especially with regards > to > rendering and so on, I've put together a bookmarklet designed > to help > visualize changes to OSM data in Mapnik more rapidly. > > http://labs.metacarta.com/osm/up-to-date/ I'm not entirely sure what a bookmarklet is, but if I cut and paste the javascript contents of the href='' on that page into the address bar of IE7 when I have the area selected it seems to do something. I only gave it a few seconds after making a change though, so the only difference I noticed was the background colour. I'll give it a few minutes and try again. Ed ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Up-to-Date, Minutely Mapnik Bookmarklet
> The osm.xml files are largely the same (I think I'm out of date by a > couple commits, but they're the same other than that). Many thanks for the wiki page, strangely, I was working on the exact same thing at the same time ;-) Seams we came accross to almost the same tools and solution. My question now, if it please you to give a little technical details, is : - how big is your rendering server ? - can you hold the load for several users ? - are you using mod_tile ? - do you have cache on tiles ? -- Sylvain Letuffe li...@letuffe.org qui suis-je : http://slyserv.dyndns.org ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Up-to-Date, Minutely Mapnik Bookmarklet
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 02:52:12PM +, Jon Burgess wrote: > 2009/1/22 Christopher Schmidt : > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 02:42:43PM +0100, "Marc Schütz" wrote: > >> > After a recent spate of OSM activity, especially with regards to > >> > rendering and so on, I've put together a bookmarklet designed to help > >> > visualize changes to OSM data in Mapnik more rapidly. > >> > > >> > http://labs.metacarta.com/osm/up-to-date/ > >> > > >> > "Using osmosis, osm2pgsql, and Mapnik, a bookmarklet which will draw the > >> > 'current' state of the database, delayed by less than 10 minutes. Simply > >> > press this button, and an image will be drawn over the map showing the > >> > current state of the database." > >> > > >> > You simply drag the bookmarklet to your browser bookmarks toolbar, and > >> > click it on any OSM map: InformationFreeway, main map, /browse/ pages, > >> > etc. > >> > > >> > I believe that all the kinks of this particular service have been > >> > worked out at this point, though I'm happy to take any feedback or > >> > criticism you have. (Please CC me on any important feedback.) > >> > >> Great work! > >> > >> However, the rendering rules seem to be different. For example: > >> > >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.9008&lon=10.89623&zoom=17&layers=B000TFTF > >> > >> The street "Klosterstraße" has the additional name "Main-Radweg" of a > >> cycleroute relation of which it is a member. > > > > The osm.xml files are largely the same (I think I'm out of date by a > > couple commits, but they're the same other than that). I'm using the > > default.style that ships with osm2pgsql, so maybe this is doing > > something different than the main site. > > > > The only other possibility that I'm not entirely sure of the likelihood > > of is that diff parsing has messed up this relation in some way. > > > > Anyway, thanks for the feedback; I have no immediate suggestions on a > > possible reason for this behavior. > > The osm2pgsql on the main site has a small tweak so that it does not > process any route relations. This was implemented a few months back > when people objected to these routes being shown. Is that in the default.style? Or is it deeper in the C code? (I guess another question is whether these routes are useful in the up-to-date view, since it is more of an 'editor' tool.) Regards, -- Christopher Schmidt MetaCarta ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Up-to-Date, Minutely Mapnik Bookmarklet
2009/1/22 Christopher Schmidt : > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 02:42:43PM +0100, "Marc Schütz" wrote: >> > After a recent spate of OSM activity, especially with regards to >> > rendering and so on, I've put together a bookmarklet designed to help >> > visualize changes to OSM data in Mapnik more rapidly. >> > >> > http://labs.metacarta.com/osm/up-to-date/ >> > >> > "Using osmosis, osm2pgsql, and Mapnik, a bookmarklet which will draw the >> > 'current' state of the database, delayed by less than 10 minutes. Simply >> > press this button, and an image will be drawn over the map showing the >> > current state of the database." >> > >> > You simply drag the bookmarklet to your browser bookmarks toolbar, and >> > click it on any OSM map: InformationFreeway, main map, /browse/ pages, >> > etc. >> > >> > I believe that all the kinks of this particular service have been >> > worked out at this point, though I'm happy to take any feedback or >> > criticism you have. (Please CC me on any important feedback.) >> >> Great work! >> >> However, the rendering rules seem to be different. For example: >> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.9008&lon=10.89623&zoom=17&layers=B000TFTF >> >> The street "Klosterstraße" has the additional name "Main-Radweg" of a >> cycleroute relation of which it is a member. > > The osm.xml files are largely the same (I think I'm out of date by a > couple commits, but they're the same other than that). I'm using the > default.style that ships with osm2pgsql, so maybe this is doing > something different than the main site. > > The only other possibility that I'm not entirely sure of the likelihood > of is that diff parsing has messed up this relation in some way. > > Anyway, thanks for the feedback; I have no immediate suggestions on a > possible reason for this behavior. The osm2pgsql on the main site has a small tweak so that it does not process any route relations. This was implemented a few months back when people objected to these routes being shown. -- Jon ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Up-to-Date, Minutely Mapnik Bookmarklet
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 02:42:43PM +0100, "Marc Schütz" wrote: > > After a recent spate of OSM activity, especially with regards to > > rendering and so on, I've put together a bookmarklet designed to help > > visualize changes to OSM data in Mapnik more rapidly. > > > > http://labs.metacarta.com/osm/up-to-date/ > > > > "Using osmosis, osm2pgsql, and Mapnik, a bookmarklet which will draw the > > 'current' state of the database, delayed by less than 10 minutes. Simply > > press this button, and an image will be drawn over the map showing the > > current state of the database." > > > > You simply drag the bookmarklet to your browser bookmarks toolbar, and > > click it on any OSM map: InformationFreeway, main map, /browse/ pages, > > etc. > > > > I believe that all the kinks of this particular service have been > > worked out at this point, though I'm happy to take any feedback or > > criticism you have. (Please CC me on any important feedback.) > > Great work! > > However, the rendering rules seem to be different. For example: > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.9008&lon=10.89623&zoom=17&layers=B000TFTF > > The street "Klosterstraße" has the additional name "Main-Radweg" of a > cycleroute relation of which it is a member. The osm.xml files are largely the same (I think I'm out of date by a couple commits, but they're the same other than that). I'm using the default.style that ships with osm2pgsql, so maybe this is doing something different than the main site. The only other possibility that I'm not entirely sure of the likelihood of is that diff parsing has messed up this relation in some way. Anyway, thanks for the feedback; I have no immediate suggestions on a possible reason for this behavior. Regards, -- Christopher Schmidt MetaCarta ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Up-to-Date, Minutely Mapnik Bookmarklet
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 09:28:16PM +0800, maning sambale wrote:
> Nice and quick on firefox. But on safari:
>
> Safari can't use JavaScript for this action.
> Safari can't run the script "(function() { var s =
> document.createElement("script");
> s.src="http://labs.metacarta.com/osm/up-to-date/bookmarklet.js";;
> document.body.appendChild(s)})()" because Safari doesn't allow
> JavaScript to be used in this way.
>
> Still a nice piece of javascript.
What version of Safari? I'm using Version 3.1.2 (5525.20.1) on OS X
without problems.
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Steve Chilton wrote:
> > Very neat.
> > Works well and very quick.
> > I tested on something I did last night which shows fine, but it was a
> > coastal area and no land/sea (ie no coast showing) which is a little
> > disorientating (I was editing a river/coastline combination) so presume
> > it doesn't pick/use the relevant shapefiles.
> > Thanks for the work
> >
> > STEVE
> >
> > Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow
> > Manager of e-Learning Academic Development
> > Centre for Educational Technology
> > Middlesex University
> > phone/fax: 020 8411 5355
> > email: ste...@mdx.ac.uk
> > http://www.mdx.ac.uk/schools/hssc/staff/profiles/technical/chiltons.asp
> >
> > Chair of the Society of Cartographers: http://www.soc.org.uk/
> >
> > SoC conference 2008:
> > http://www.abdn.ac.uk/cartographers08/
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org
> > [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Schmidt
> > Sent: 22 January 2009 12:09
> > To: talk@openstreetmap.org
> > Subject: [OSM-talk] Up-to-Date, Minutely Mapnik Bookmarklet
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > After a recent spate of OSM activity, especially with regards to
> > rendering and so on, I've put together a bookmarklet designed to help
> > visualize changes to OSM data in Mapnik more rapidly.
> >
> > http://labs.metacarta.com/osm/up-to-date/
> >
> > "Using osmosis, osm2pgsql, and Mapnik, a bookmarklet which will draw the
> > 'current' state of the database, delayed by less than 10 minutes. Simply
> > press this button, and an image will be drawn over the map showing the
> > current state of the database."
> >
> > You simply drag the bookmarklet to your browser bookmarks toolbar, and
> > click it on any OSM map: InformationFreeway, main map, /browse/ pages,
> > etc.
> >
> > I believe that all the kinks of this particular service have been
> > worked out at this point, though I'm happy to take any feedback or
> > criticism you have. (Please CC me on any important feedback.)
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > --
> > Christopher Schmidt
> > MetaCarta
> >
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>
>
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> maning
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Re: [OSM-talk] Up-to-Date, Minutely Mapnik Bookmarklet
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 01:18:35PM +, Steve Chilton wrote: > Very neat. > Works well and very quick. > I tested on something I did last night which shows fine, but it was a > coastal area and no land/sea (ie no coast showing) which is a little > disorientating (I was editing a river/coastline combination) so presume > it doesn't pick/use the relevant shapefiles. Right, this is part of the 'real' reason behind the background color change: I dropped all the coastal shapefiles from my osm.xml, which is why I went with the white background. (Yes, I'm lazy.) Regards, -- Christopher Schmidt MetaCarta ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Up-to-Date, Minutely Mapnik Bookmarklet
> After a recent spate of OSM activity, especially with regards to > rendering and so on, I've put together a bookmarklet designed to help > visualize changes to OSM data in Mapnik more rapidly. > > http://labs.metacarta.com/osm/up-to-date/ > > "Using osmosis, osm2pgsql, and Mapnik, a bookmarklet which will draw the > 'current' state of the database, delayed by less than 10 minutes. Simply > press this button, and an image will be drawn over the map showing the > current state of the database." > > You simply drag the bookmarklet to your browser bookmarks toolbar, and > click it on any OSM map: InformationFreeway, main map, /browse/ pages, > etc. > > I believe that all the kinks of this particular service have been > worked out at this point, though I'm happy to take any feedback or > criticism you have. (Please CC me on any important feedback.) Great work! However, the rendering rules seem to be different. For example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.9008&lon=10.89623&zoom=17&layers=B000TFTF The street "Klosterstraße" has the additional name "Main-Radweg" of a cycleroute relation of which it is a member. Regards, Marc -- NUR NOCH BIS 31.01.! GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 16,37 EURO/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Up-to-Date, Minutely Mapnik Bookmarklet
Nice and quick on firefox. But on safari:
Safari can't use JavaScript for this action.
Safari can't run the script "(function() { var s =
document.createElement("script");
s.src="http://labs.metacarta.com/osm/up-to-date/bookmarklet.js";;
document.body.appendChild(s)})()" because Safari doesn't allow
JavaScript to be used in this way.
Still a nice piece of javascript.
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Steve Chilton wrote:
> Very neat.
> Works well and very quick.
> I tested on something I did last night which shows fine, but it was a
> coastal area and no land/sea (ie no coast showing) which is a little
> disorientating (I was editing a river/coastline combination) so presume
> it doesn't pick/use the relevant shapefiles.
> Thanks for the work
>
> STEVE
>
> Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow
> Manager of e-Learning Academic Development
> Centre for Educational Technology
> Middlesex University
> phone/fax: 020 8411 5355
> email: ste...@mdx.ac.uk
> http://www.mdx.ac.uk/schools/hssc/staff/profiles/technical/chiltons.asp
>
> Chair of the Society of Cartographers: http://www.soc.org.uk/
>
> SoC conference 2008:
> http://www.abdn.ac.uk/cartographers08/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org
> [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Schmidt
> Sent: 22 January 2009 12:09
> To: talk@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: [OSM-talk] Up-to-Date, Minutely Mapnik Bookmarklet
>
> Hi,
>
> After a recent spate of OSM activity, especially with regards to
> rendering and so on, I've put together a bookmarklet designed to help
> visualize changes to OSM data in Mapnik more rapidly.
>
> http://labs.metacarta.com/osm/up-to-date/
>
> "Using osmosis, osm2pgsql, and Mapnik, a bookmarklet which will draw the
> 'current' state of the database, delayed by less than 10 minutes. Simply
> press this button, and an image will be drawn over the map showing the
> current state of the database."
>
> You simply drag the bookmarklet to your browser bookmarks toolbar, and
> click it on any OSM map: InformationFreeway, main map, /browse/ pages,
> etc.
>
> I believe that all the kinks of this particular service have been
> worked out at this point, though I'm happy to take any feedback or
> criticism you have. (Please CC me on any important feedback.)
>
> Best Regards,
> --
> Christopher Schmidt
> MetaCarta
>
> ___
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> talk@openstreetmap.org
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Up-to-Date, Minutely Mapnik Bookmarklet
Very neat. Works well and very quick. I tested on something I did last night which shows fine, but it was a coastal area and no land/sea (ie no coast showing) which is a little disorientating (I was editing a river/coastline combination) so presume it doesn't pick/use the relevant shapefiles. Thanks for the work STEVE Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow Manager of e-Learning Academic Development Centre for Educational Technology Middlesex University phone/fax: 020 8411 5355 email: ste...@mdx.ac.uk http://www.mdx.ac.uk/schools/hssc/staff/profiles/technical/chiltons.asp Chair of the Society of Cartographers: http://www.soc.org.uk/ SoC conference 2008: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/cartographers08/ -Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Schmidt Sent: 22 January 2009 12:09 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Up-to-Date, Minutely Mapnik Bookmarklet Hi, After a recent spate of OSM activity, especially with regards to rendering and so on, I've put together a bookmarklet designed to help visualize changes to OSM data in Mapnik more rapidly. http://labs.metacarta.com/osm/up-to-date/ "Using osmosis, osm2pgsql, and Mapnik, a bookmarklet which will draw the 'current' state of the database, delayed by less than 10 minutes. Simply press this button, and an image will be drawn over the map showing the current state of the database." You simply drag the bookmarklet to your browser bookmarks toolbar, and click it on any OSM map: InformationFreeway, main map, /browse/ pages, etc. I believe that all the kinks of this particular service have been worked out at this point, though I'm happy to take any feedback or criticism you have. (Please CC me on any important feedback.) Best Regards, -- Christopher Schmidt MetaCarta ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Up-to-Date, Minutely Mapnik Bookmarklet
2009/1/22 Christopher Schmidt : > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:23:56PM +, LeedsTracker wrote: >> 2009/1/22 Christopher Schmidt : >> In mapnik, some bits rendered slightly differently in style (e.g. base >> background colour differs). > > This is intentional. When you zoom in or out, it's nice to see a > difference between what is 'up-to-date' and what is not -- the way I've > implemented that is with a background color change (from tan -> white). Yes, makes sense. >> Some names (e.g. of buildings or streets) >> rendered differently to weekly mapnik too. > > Positioning, or text? Positioning may be different, because the image is > not tiled in the same way, so I've seen things shift a little due to > different available spacing. Seems to be slightly different rules about which names are rendered. E.g. this area has no changes since last mapnik weekly (AFAIK): http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=53.79741&lon=-1.58727&zoom=17&layers=B000 Switching between mapnik and your layer, names for buildings or pubs are rendered in one and not another. Same for some icons, e.g. cafe icon in one, the postoffice next door in another. Minor things, but you asked for feedback! cheers, LT ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Up-to-Date, Minutely Mapnik Bookmarklet
Christopher Schmidt wrote: > After a recent spate of OSM activity, especially with regards to > rendering and so on, I've put together a bookmarklet designed to help > visualize changes to OSM data in Mapnik more rapidly. > > http://labs.metacarta.com/osm/up-to-date/ > Very nice indeed. This is very welcome and for the two little checks I have done it worked perfectly. Thanks for a neat extension to the Mapnik layer for the mapper. Cheers, Chris ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Up-to-Date, Minutely Mapnik Bookmarklet
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:23:56PM +, LeedsTracker wrote: > 2009/1/22 Christopher Schmidt : > > http://labs.metacarta.com/osm/up-to-date/ > > Just tried it on a few places I updated last night, very smooth! > > In mapnik, some bits rendered slightly differently in style (e.g. base > background colour differs). This is intentional. When you zoom in or out, it's nice to see a difference between what is 'up-to-date' and what is not -- the way I've implemented that is with a background color change (from tan -> white). > Some names (e.g. of buildings or streets) > rendered differently to weekly mapnik too. Positioning, or text? Positioning may be different, because the image is not tiled in the same way, so I've seen things shift a little due to different available spacing. Regards, -- Christopher Schmidt MetaCarta ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Up-to-Date, Minutely Mapnik Bookmarklet
2009/1/22 Christopher Schmidt : > http://labs.metacarta.com/osm/up-to-date/ Just tried it on a few places I updated last night, very smooth! In mapnik, some bits rendered slightly differently in style (e.g. base background colour differs). Some names (e.g. of buildings or streets) rendered differently to weekly mapnik too. None of these things bothers me personally. Seems like a very useful addition, thanks very much for your work. cheers, LT ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Up-to-Date, Minutely Mapnik Bookmarklet
Hi, After a recent spate of OSM activity, especially with regards to rendering and so on, I've put together a bookmarklet designed to help visualize changes to OSM data in Mapnik more rapidly. http://labs.metacarta.com/osm/up-to-date/ "Using osmosis, osm2pgsql, and Mapnik, a bookmarklet which will draw the 'current' state of the database, delayed by less than 10 minutes. Simply press this button, and an image will be drawn over the map showing the current state of the database." You simply drag the bookmarklet to your browser bookmarks toolbar, and click it on any OSM map: InformationFreeway, main map, /browse/ pages, etc. I believe that all the kinks of this particular service have been worked out at this point, though I'm happy to take any feedback or criticism you have. (Please CC me on any important feedback.) Best Regards, -- Christopher Schmidt MetaCarta ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
