Re: [talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-15 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 15 August 2012 06:01, Michael Krämer ohr...@gmail.com wrote:

 first of all a quick introduction: I'm one of those armchair mappers trying
 to assist in cleaning up the mess after the redation bot.

Welcome.

 When doing so I've noticed that most of the state and territory borders are
 gone. I could already reconstruct the straight parts from remaining segments
 and nodes. But the non-straight parts are still missing, so there isn't much
 left of ACT at the moment, for example.

Some work has been put in by some OSMers in the past getting accurate
border information, not always from the ABS data. There were borders
in OSM prior to any ABS import, which are likely clean and could also
be used as an alternative if we can dig them out of a full history
file!

Does anybody have better recall of this than me?  Is there any harm in
importing for now, and doing any fixes/replacement required later?

Ian.

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Re: [talk-au] import of state borders?

2012-08-15 Thread Andrew Harvey
On 15/08/12 06:01, Michael Krämer wrote:
 Hi,
 
 first of all a quick introduction: I'm one of those armchair mappers
 trying to assist in cleaning up the mess after the redation bot.
 
 When doing so I've noticed that most of the state and territory borders
 are gone. I could already reconstruct the straight parts from remaining
 segments and nodes. But the non-straight parts are still missing, so
 there isn't much left of ACT at the moment, for example.
 
 Looking for a source for these I came across the data from the
 Australian Bureau of Statistics which are ODbL-compliant according to
 [1]. Available is are shapefiles for the electoral boundaries [2] and to
 my understanding these had previously been used for the state boundaries.
 
 So I would suggest to import the missing parts of the boundaries from
 these datasets again. This wouldn't be an automatic import but include
 manually combining the data with what's already there.
 
 Any thoughts?

 [2]
 http://data.gov.au/dataset/commonwealth-electoral-boundaries-archive-2009/

No comment on the import, but I wouldn't use the Electoral boundaries to
derive any kind of state boundary.

Also since data.gov.au just pulls the data from the various different
government agencies, I would suggest getting it straight from the source.

http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/DetailsPage/1270.0.55.001July%202011?OpenDocument

You would want the last one listed: State (S/T) ASGS Ed 2011 Digital
Boundaries in ESRI Shapefile Format. Note the copyright for this
http://www.abs.gov.au/websitedbs/D3310114.nsf/Home/%C2%A9+Copyright?opendocument#from-banner=GB

Various other different admin levels are also at
http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/DetailsPage/1270.0.55.003July
2011?OpenDocument

Beware though, that these are not the official state boundaries, or
other admin boundaries. They only represent an ABS approximation of the
official boundary with the aim of generating statistics on these areas.

For most purposes they are good enough representation of the actual
boundary for us, especially in lure of a better source, and without any
on the ground mapping.

I hope this has provided some insight.



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Re: [talk-au] Fixing relations in Canberra

2012-08-15 Thread Mark Pulley
On 14/08/2012, at 10:27 PM, Nick Hocking wrote:
 Ok - I've just driven 23 and 52 and Alt 23  (well not the entire lengths of 
 course).
 
Thanks. I've just updated the relations in this section.
 Another puzzle (tagging wise) is that travelling eastwards on 23 at Fyshwick, 
 Ipswich Street is signed as ALT 23 although you don't really get onto to the 
 real Alt 23 until you turn left into Newcastle Street and finally right, on 
 to Monaro Highway
 
I've left this off the relation for now.

Mark P.

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[talk-au] remapping help?

2012-08-15 Thread Ian Villeda
Over here at MapBox we're structuring our remapping priorities right now. 
Starting with end of August we'll have better tracing capacities again (some 
folks are going out for vacation).

If you can use help with tracing / repairing that can be done remotely, please 
let me know. We want to help, but want to make sure we're supporting the 
efforts and priorities of the local community. 

Also here's a map i made last week of mappers contributing the remapping of 
Sydney on rebuild.poole.ch. Represented are individual nodes colored according 
to the user that edited or created them. The user's names are scaled based on 
how many nodes they edited/created. Let me know if you think visualizations 
like these could be useful in (re)mapping, or could be improved in order to be 
useful.  
http://tiles.mapbox.com/villeda/map/map-m7isafy8

Thanks, 

-ian 
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