[OSM-talk-be] to survey or not to survey

2015-11-11 Thread Stijn Rombauts
Hey,
I'd very much like to emphasize that it's necessary to survey walking and cycle 
routes, because once again I noticed that errors of poorly made official maps 
(this time one of the hiking maps of Bosland, northern Limburg) are copied into 
OSM, including non-existing paths. This is not the kind of 'improvements' OSM 
needs.
Regards,
StijnRR

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] IGN/NGI/NGI/NGI too now using OpenStreetMap

2015-11-11 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-09-06 23:54, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote :
> Dear 
>
> In March, I have met the directeur général adjoint of IGN during a
> meeting about GIS in Belgium where I represented the OSM.BE team (Ben
> had been invited too and I have coordinated with him) and he let me
> know that he would be willing to share data with us.
>
> We could prepare to go and meet officially (as the OSM-be
> representatives) IGN to discussi licences, compatibility and mutual help.
>
> Who is interested ?
The IGN/NGI is a most important source of information indeed.
I'm very surprised that no one else replied.
Thanks.  Keep us informed.

But the first thing to know is if what we do isn't allowed already, like
for the SPW.
IGN states conditions almost as vague as the SPW.
For the SPW, now that we know that "we cannot copy yet" isn't true and
now that the SPW fixed the PICC bug that I have asked 5 years ago (and
that was being laughed at), we can now redo with JOSM with a 20cm
precision much of the work that was made over 5 years with a 2 to 5 m
error and more with other editors.

Cheers

André.


>
> Best regards,
>
> Nicolas
>
> Le dim 6 sep 2015 à 21:45, André Pirard  a
> écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> In their now official Cartesius project
>> , IGN/NGI/NGI/NGI et al.
>> too are now using OpenStreetMap
>>  (click
>> Basemap).
>>
>> It would have been surprising that NGI did not display the OSM ©
>> notice ;-)
>> Please notice that they reproduce without a frown the OSM mapping of
>> the so-called © NGI boundaries that we "cannot copy yet" (belonging
>> to the various successive governments (French and Belgian mainly)) !
>>
>> Cheers ,
>>
>> André.
>>
>>

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Submit your OSM-BE talk at Open Belgium 2016

2015-11-11 Thread Pieter Colpaert

Hi Joost,

I don't know whether organising a missing maps mapathon at Open Belgium 
2016 is the best thing to do, as we ask an entrance fee in order to be 
able to cover the costs of organising Open Belgium 2016...


Kind regards,

Pieter

On 11-11-15 12:16, joost schouppe wrote:

Pieter-Jan, community,

If anyone wants to co-host a session like the one I proposed, yes. Anyone?

You also mentioned maybe a mapping party. How about something like 
this: http://osm.be/nl/content/missing-maps-mapathon-antwerpen
If you like that idea (it isn't very Belgian of course), I would be 
willing to host this by myself if noone else comes forward.


Joost


2015-11-10 13:41 GMT+01:00 Pieter-Jan Pauwels 
mailto:pieter-jan.pauw...@okfn.org>>:


Hello Joost,

Excellent suggestion and something that would indeed be very
useful. On a lot of ‘open’ topics, their is indeed low awareness
amongst government officials so a workshop like this would be very
welcome. Not just for those government officials, but also for
volunteers and other working groups that use geodata. The more I
can promote diversity in open initiatives, the happier I am.

Does somebody have the time and spirit to propose a session?
Hosting a session means free access to the conference including
food and drinks for those wondering.

Kind regards,
Pieter-Jan


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On 10 Nov 2015, at 13:20, joost schouppe
mailto:joost.schou...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Pieter-Jan and community,

Where I think OSM and local government can help each other is
probably more in them using our data than the other way around.
For example, for simple webmaps a tool like Umap can help them to
publish quick and cheap. On the other hand, the tools they
develop would probably be of more use to the world, if they use
OSM in stead of data silos. I'm think for example about the
ability to crowdsource data within the Antwerp stadsplan, where
people start collecting ATM's or pharmacy in a little data
island. Or Gent's insistence on building a bicycle route planner
that runs on just their data. (just two example I happen to know,
I don't want to be pointing fingers)
The win for us would of course be that data use (beyond simple
rendered map backgrounds) drives more people toward mapping.

So maybe a workshop where you get to play with some of the cooler
OSM applications might be fun and useful.

I can't do this by myself as I'll be jetlagged at the time of the
event; flying back home from a trip the Saterday before.
But if someone wants to do this together, yes please.

Joost

2015-11-10 11:12 GMT+01:00 Pieter-Jan
Pauwelsmailto:pieter-jan.pauw...@okfn.org>>:

Hi everyone,

My apologies for the slight off-topic. I’m organising the
Open Belgium conference 2016, which will, or at least should
be, completely community driven.
Until 15 November 2015 everybody can suggest a session for
the conference in Antwerp on the 29th of February 2015.

I haven’t seen much OSM proposals, so I though this mailing
list would have some members who might be interested in
suggesting a session.
You can propose a session on: http://bit.ly/1QftLZf

You can suggest keynotes, workshops, a mapping party, a
hackathon, panel, or any other format.
And one tip: This year we’re focusing on local open data and
are targeting local authorities to come and visit. Is there
something they should know or can help you with? Let us know!

And if you have questions about the conference or why we’re
organising this, feel free to reply or email me directly.

Have a great week!

Kind regards,
Pieter-Jan
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Submit your OSM-BE talk at Open Belgium 2016

2015-11-11 Thread joost schouppe
Pieter-Jan, community,

If anyone wants to co-host a session like the one I proposed, yes. Anyone?

You also mentioned maybe a mapping party. How about something like this:
http://osm.be/nl/content/missing-maps-mapathon-antwerpen
If you like that idea (it isn't very Belgian of course), I would be willing
to host this by myself if noone else comes forward.

Joost


2015-11-10 13:41 GMT+01:00 Pieter-Jan Pauwels :

> Hello Joost,
>
> Excellent suggestion and something that would indeed be very useful. On a
> lot of ‘open’ topics, their is indeed low awareness amongst government
> officials so a workshop like this would be very welcome. Not just for those
> government officials, but also for volunteers and other working groups that
> use geodata. The more I can promote diversity in open initiatives, the
> happier I am.
>
> Does somebody have the time and spirit to propose a session?
> Hosting a session means free access to the conference including food and
> drinks for those wondering.
>
> Kind regards,
> Pieter-Jan
>
>
> [image: photo]
> *Pieter-Jan Pauwels*
> Community Coordinator, Open Knowledge Belgium
> m: +32 476 66 27 77 <+32%20476%2066%2027%2077> | e:
> pieter-jan.pauw...@okfn.org | w: okfn.be
>
> On 10 Nov 2015, at 13:20, joost schouppe  wrote:
>
> Hi Pieter-Jan and community,
>
> Where I think OSM and local government can help each other is probably
> more in them using our data than the other way around. For example, for
> simple webmaps a tool like Umap can help them to publish quick and cheap.
> On the other hand, the tools they develop would probably be of more use to
> the world, if they use OSM in stead of data silos. I'm think for example
> about the ability to crowdsource data within the Antwerp stadsplan, where
> people start collecting ATM's or pharmacy in a little data island. Or
> Gent's insistence on building a bicycle route planner that runs on just
> their data. (just two example I happen to know, I don't want to be pointing
> fingers)
> The win for us would of course be that data use (beyond simple rendered
> map backgrounds) drives more people toward mapping.
>
> So maybe a workshop where you get to play with some of the cooler OSM
> applications might be fun and useful.
>
> I can't do this by myself as I'll be jetlagged at the time of the event;
> flying back home from a trip the Saterday before.
> But if someone wants to do this together, yes please.
>
> Joost
>
> 2015-11-10 11:12 GMT+01:00 Pieter-Jan Pauwels  >:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> My apologies for the slight off-topic. I’m organising the Open Belgium
>> conference 2016, which will, or at least should be, completely community
>> driven.
>> Until 15 November 2015 everybody can suggest a session for the conference
>> in Antwerp on the 29th of February 2015.
>>
>> I haven’t seen much OSM proposals, so I though this mailing list would
>> have some members who might be interested in suggesting a session.
>> You can propose a session on: http://bit.ly/1QftLZf
>>
>> You can suggest keynotes, workshops, a mapping party, a hackathon, panel,
>> or any other format.
>> And one tip: This year we’re focusing on local open data and are
>> targeting local authorities to come and visit. Is there something they
>> should know or can help you with? Let us know!
>>
>> And if you have questions about the conference or why we’re organising
>> this, feel free to reply or email me directly.
>>
>> Have a great week!
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Pieter-Jan
>> [image: photo]
>> *Pieter-Jan Pauwels*
>> Community Coordinator, Open Knowledge Belgium
>> m: +32 476 66 27 77 <+32%20476%2066%2027%2077> | e:
>> pieter-jan.pauw...@okfn.org | w: okfn.be
>>
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[OSM-talk-be] Missing maps mapathon in Antwerp

2015-11-11 Thread joost schouppe
Hi all,

We're finally having another Missing Maps mapathon. Again in Antwerp,
thanks to the kind people at IPIS Research who will provide both a location
and some snacks and drinks.

It'll be a Wednesday evening, starting from 17:30. Only a ten minute walk
from the Antwerp central train station and the bus station.

We have the space, but not much else. I'm just a poor Potlatch mapper, so
we're going to need experts in JOSM and iD who would like to give an
introduction and help out during the event. I see Jo already confimed, so I
feel at easy already :)

Feel free to promote the event in your network!

Here's the OSM.be page in Dutch:
http://osm.be/nl/content/missing-maps-mapathon-antwerpen
And in English: http://osm.be/nl/content/missing-maps-mapathon-antwerp
If you think there should be a French version, provide me with a
translation and I will publish.

I also made a Meetup event:
http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/226696190
Added to activities wiki:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Activities
And to Missing Maps wiki:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Missing_Maps_Project#The_mapping_events_you_can_still_come_to

It would be nice to have more of these events. I have a possible contact
for a free location in Brussels. Anyone from the community there want to
follow up on that?

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