Re: [OSM-talk-be] covered or tunnel

[marc bessieres]

2013/11/3 Kurt Roeckx 

> On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 02:36:53PM +0100, marc bessieres wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > With Keep Right, there is the following error:
> > http://keepright.at/report_map.php?schema=72&error=25113833
> >
> > The error text is:
> > This node is a junction of ways on different layers:
> > #38962740
> > (-1),#116844652 (0)
> >
> > It is because the way http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/38962740has
> > the tag tunnel=yes
>
> As far as I know tunnel=yes doesn't imply layer=-1, which
> keepright seems to be doing.  I think keepright is wrong to assume
> that.  But then Key:layer says that for bridges and tunnels that
> are at level 0 you should explicitly put the layer.
>

I suppose keepright uses both pieces of information. So I could put the
layer=0.


> > When I look at the wiki for the tunnel definition
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tunnel
> >
> > And the one of covered
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:covered
> >
> > I presume that tunnel shall be replaced by covered as this way is a
> > "galerie" at the same ground level as the 2 streets it connects to.
>
> There is also tunnel=building_passage, which might be more clear
> then just yes.  It's also very explicit in saying that it should
> have the same layer as the buildings (none/0).
>

But I think this is better, I missed it when I read the wiki.
So I would go mapping the "galeries" of Bxl I know like that.
Would that be ok?


> As far as I understand it, covered means that there aren't 2 walls
> on each side and so that it's open, which as far as I know isn't
> the case.
>
> Ok, I understand the difference now. I think there is such a path on way
to the Mont des Arts
from the Central station.

Thank you Kurt,
Marc
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] covered or tunnel

[Kurt Roeckx]

On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 02:36:53PM +0100, marc bessieres wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> With Keep Right, there is the following error:
> http://keepright.at/report_map.php?schema=72&error=25113833
> 
> The error text is:
> This node is a junction of ways on different layers:
> #38962740
> (-1),#116844652 (0)
> 
> It is because the way http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/38962740 has
> the tag tunnel=yes

As far as I know tunnel=yes doesn't imply layer=-1, which
keepright seems to be doing.  I think keepright is wrong to assume
that.  But then Key:layer says that for bridges and tunnels that
are at level 0 you should explicitly put the layer.

> When I look at the wiki for the tunnel definition
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tunnel
> 
> And the one of covered
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:covered
> 
> I presume that tunnel shall be replaced by covered as this way is a
> "galerie" at the same ground level as the 2 streets it connects to.

There is also tunnel=building_passage, which might be more clear
then just yes.  It's also very explicit in saying that it should
have the same layer as the buildings (none/0).

As far as I understand it, covered means that there aren't 2 walls
on each side and so that it's open, which as far as I know isn't
the case.


Kurt


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[OSM-talk-be] covered or tunnel

[marc bessieres]

Hello,

With Keep Right, there is the following error:
http://keepright.at/report_map.php?schema=72&error=25113833

The error text is:
This node is a junction of ways on different layers:
#38962740
(-1),#116844652 (0)

It is because the way http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/38962740 has
the tag tunnel=yes

When I look at the wiki for the tunnel definition
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tunnel

And the one of covered
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:covered

I presume that tunnel shall be replaced by covered as this way is a
"galerie" at the same ground level as the 2 streets it connects to.

So I looked at other "galeries" I know in Bxl to see how they're tagged.
I see that "galerie louise" has also tunnel=yes
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/31001460

And "galerie de la reine" doesn't have anything.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/87501645

What should I do?
I would believe put covered everywhere, and replace tunnel when it is used.
Or I can do it only for the error of Keep Right?
Or anything else you would suggest.

Cheers,
Marc
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