Re: [Talk-us] the Battle Grid

2013-09-14 Thread Eric Fischer
Sure, I'd be happy to help if I can. If someone on the OSM side
intentionally diverges from TIGER, that is a good indication that TIGER
ought to be fixed there, although I would think the license incompatibility
would prevent directly incorporating the OSM changes.

It seems like the Battle Grid and TIGER would both benefit from some sort
of user interface for looking at TIGER data and declaring "no, I don't
think this is right," so the Battle Grid would stop suggesting it as a
change and the TIGER maintainers would get a notification that something
seems to be wrong with their map.

Eric



On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Steven Johnson 
> wrote:
> > P.S. Great tool, BTW. I showed it to folks at Census Bureau where there
> was
> > quite a bit of interest in MapRoulette as a model of how to do QC on
> TIGER
> > data
>
>
> I'd be interested to start a conversation with Census on how to target
> TIGER improvements based on this grid, or a similar analysis. Perhaps
> something Eric Fischer would also be interested in. Can you
> facilitate, Steven?
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Re: [Talk-us] the Battle Grid

2013-09-14 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:

> I have been playing around with the tile size a little. Bigger tiles
> means you end up looking around for what to improve once you load all
> the data into JOSM. Also, bigger tiles means the results get flattened
> more - a big tile with a small subdivision that needs a lot of work
> may not be flagged very prominently. The smaller tiles have the
> disadvantage you mention. The grid will get refreshed every week or
> so, so even if you work in an adjacent tile and don't mark it done, it
> will disappear from the grid anyway. I ended up with this size as a
> trade off, I think it works well, so please take the leap :)
>

Thanks for taking a look. It makes sense that if the area is too large,
then you could lose the impact.

After playing around with it this week, one of the interesting things I've
noticed is that the original tiger data is bad as we all know, but some of
the new tiger is bad too!

Once a grid has been touched, if the tiger 2012 differs from our current
edits, will it show up as needing correcting? Or do you ignore roads that
have been touched recently?

Thanks again for a great tool.


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Re: [Talk-us] the Battle Grid

2013-09-14 Thread Martijn van Exel
On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Steven Johnson  wrote:
> P.S. Great tool, BTW. I showed it to folks at Census Bureau where there was
> quite a bit of interest in MapRoulette as a model of how to do QC on TIGER
> data


I'd be interested to start a conversation with Census on how to target
TIGER improvements based on this grid, or a similar analysis. Perhaps
something Eric Fischer would also be interested in. Can you
facilitate, Steven?

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Re: [Talk-us] the Battle Grid

2013-09-14 Thread Martijn van Exel
I have been playing around with the tile size a little. Bigger tiles
means you end up looking around for what to improve once you load all
the data into JOSM. Also, bigger tiles means the results get flattened
more - a big tile with a small subdivision that needs a lot of work
may not be flagged very prominently. The smaller tiles have the
disadvantage you mention. The grid will get refreshed every week or
so, so even if you work in an adjacent tile and don't mark it done, it
will disappear from the grid anyway. I ended up with this size as a
trade off, I think it works well, so please take the leap :)

On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Clifford Snow  wrote:
> Martijn,
> For the upcoming #Editathon, we plan to fix road alignment in Washington
> State. Eric Fischer pointed me to your Battle Grid website. I plan introduce
> it at the #Editathon. Originally I was just going to list cities and ask
> people to work on a city. However, you tool is much better. I'd like to make
> one request of you. Is it possible to increase the size of the color tiles?
> When opening in iD, they seem too small. You end up working on surrounding
> areas before you know it. Since iD automatically brings in new data as you
> scroll around, it's easy to be working in adjacent tiles. This isn't a show
> stopper by any means. If it's too much work or doesn't make any sense to
> you, just tell me to take a flying leap!
>
> Thanks,
> --
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>
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Re: [Talk-us] the Battle Grid

2013-09-10 Thread Evin Fairchild
How do I get involved in this Editathon? I would really like to participate.

Thanks, Compdude


On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Clifford Snow wrote:

> Martijn,
> For the upcoming #Editathon, we plan to fix road alignment in Washington
> State. Eric Fischer pointed me to your Battle Grid website. I plan
> introduce it at the #Editathon. Originally I was just going to list cities
> and ask people to work on a city. However, you tool is much better. I'd
> like to make one request of you. Is it possible to increase the size of the
> color tiles? When opening in iD, they seem too small. You end up working on
> surrounding areas before you know it. Since iD automatically brings in new
> data as you scroll around, it's easy to be working in adjacent tiles. This
> isn't a show stopper by any means. If it's too much work or doesn't make
> any sense to you, just tell me to take a flying leap!
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Clifford
>
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Re: [Talk-us] the Battle Grid

2013-09-08 Thread Steven Johnson
I had the same concern. If I could somehow overlay the grid squares in iD,
I'd be certain I was correcting all the alignments in the square and would
be easier to mark the square 'done'.

I'm also willing to take a flying leap. ;-)

SEJ

P.S. Great tool, BTW. I showed it to folks at Census Bureau where there was
quite a bit of interest in MapRoulette as a model of how to do QC on TIGER
data

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There are two types of people in the world. Those that can extrapolate from
incomplete data.


On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Clifford Snow wrote:

> Martijn,
> For the upcoming #Editathon, we plan to fix road alignment in Washington
> State. Eric Fischer pointed me to your Battle Grid website. I plan
> introduce it at the #Editathon. Originally I was just going to list cities
> and ask people to work on a city. However, you tool is much better. I'd
> like to make one request of you. Is it possible to increase the size of the
> color tiles? When opening in iD, they seem too small. You end up working on
> surrounding areas before you know it. Since iD automatically brings in new
> data as you scroll around, it's easy to be working in adjacent tiles. This
> isn't a show stopper by any means. If it's too much work or doesn't make
> any sense to you, just tell me to take a flying leap!
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Clifford
>
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