Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Diego, Thursday, December 16, 2004, 8:29:47 AM, you wrote: No way to avoid that. I´ve signed on a DSL account, the gave me three email boxes. Never used them, I use yahoo for lists and gmail for personal things. Yesterday, I´ve checked them to see if they were up, and they were full of spam (200-300 msg. each, no, I don´t need penis enlargement, thanks). Spammers are targetting large freemail services (gmx, web.de, yahoo, hotmail, msn, etc.) with name generators. Probably valid email addresses (john.smith john_smith james.smith james_smith etc. etc., you get the idea) will be generated sent out. Major services like yahoo, gmx etc. all have their own spam-filters, maybe thats why you're getting less spam on your yahoo account. -- Best regards, Alexandermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Who's stealing from TB?
Dear TBUDL, Historians believe that on 16 December 2004, at 19:52:43 -0500 (which was 00:52 where I live) Watcher graced us with these comments Every time I restart windows I have to tell TB to go ahead and reassociate EML with TB, I have tried doing it by hand but no matter what it get's switched back somehow. I know this problem well, I have had it for years. Any suggestions as to who the very impolite app is that's stealing the association without asking? Yes, It is Microsoft OE I believe. I will do a bit more digging today and get to the bottom of it if I can. It is a pain as it comes along silently and takes away the association with out asking whilst The Bat! is still running. -- BBFN, ___ David |David Elliott| Software Engineer | _| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP Key ID 0x650F4534 | | he's glad to be chained to that wall| pgpSjNScBGQEn.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: where do you keep your attachments?
Any suggestion on how to delete attachment files unassociated with any mail? In Options - Files Directories... there's an option - delete attachments when message removed from trash - or words to that effect. I guess that would do it for the future cases... But if you mean messages now and in the past - h... don't know. -- Marten Gallagher Annery Kiln Web Design www.annerykiln.co.uk Using The Bat! 3.0.1.33 with POPFile 0.22.1 on Windows XP 5.1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: where do you keep your attachments?
ON Thursday, December 16, 2004, 4:46:20 AM, you wrote: I can't tell .msg-files that are Spam from those I want to keep RK unless I open them up and look at them one by one. RK Any suggestion on how to delete attachment files unassociated with any RK mail? Hi Roman, I believe you can do a backup from within TB! and check store attachments with msg. If you then delete your current installation and reinstall using your backup all attachments without an email msg should be gone. I should say I have not tried this myself :( so do this at your own risk. I would suggest maybe a few different backups? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Nobody ever looked up and saw a good shot. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: where do you keep your attachments?
ON Thursday, December 16, 2004, 3:45:19 PM, you wrote: RK That could work. It's also quite cumbersome, though - not for regular RK execution, I guess. If nothing else works, I will try this. Roman, I agree with you there but I hope this is just a one of exercise for you. After this you should select delete attachment when msg is deleted (_ or similar wording) -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- In case of a thunderstorm, stand in the middle of the fairway and hold up a one iron. Not even God can hit a one iron. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 16 Dec 2004, @ @ at 12:12:20 -0300, when Diego Ducatenzeiler wrote: Yeah, I assumed that. But the account isn´t a freemail service, it´s a paid service, and a big one for Argentina (50.000 users at 3 to 10 accounts each). Although, half of the spam is spanish, so I think commercial spam filters would have a hard time figuring it out, as common spanish has at least four times the amount of words as the full non-technical english; and every dialect has words unique to them. Filter them by headers then? What form of addressing your spammers use? Something like Diego Ducatenzeiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] or just [EMAIL PROTECTED]? - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast :crazy: [Earth LOG: 106 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBwbY69q62QPd3XuIRAiayAJ0RX4K4iumtH9pyNREHR7yfxmfFWgCeOg4T j9/nyn/sRDdeFAscFau9udc= =heRv -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
decrypting via a template
Hi all, Would it be possible to decrypt an encrypted message automaticly via a template? -- cheers, Henk. __ :tbflag: The Bat! Natural Email System v3.0.2.10nl Professional on Windows XP SP2 PGP Key Request: See Headers or send email with subj.: send HenksKeyID Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://gswot.webhop.info/ pgptQnlleYjJY.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
On Thursday 16 December 2004 14:59, Mica Mijatovic wrote: enlargement offerings. Honestly, I do not need any of these Perhaps if you took up the enlargement offerings it would draw the attention away from your white hairy chest and you wouldn't need to shave it :) -- Tony. SuSE 9.2 Registered Linux user 316959 http://www.1and1.co.uk/?k_id=7037908 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: decrypting via a template
Hi Henk, on Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:06:22 +0100GMT, you wrote: HdB Would it be possible to decrypt an encrypted message automaticly via HdB a template? Now that is a nice idea. It would be great, because the long standing wish has not yet been fulfilled... :-( https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=0002168 -- Cheers Peter Bore, n.: A person who talks when you wish him to listen. Ambrose Bierce Winamp currently playing: Max Goldt - Macht die Tür auf Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: decrypting via a template
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter, On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:53:16 +0100GMT (16-12-2004, 18:53 +0100, where I live), you wrote: PM on Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:06:22 +0100GMT, you wrote: HdB Would it be possible to decrypt an encrypted message automaticly via HdB a template? PM Now that is a nice idea. It would be great, because the long standing PM wish has not yet been fulfilled... :-( PM https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=0002168 I have added a note!! - -- cheers, Henk __ :tbflag: The Bat! Natural Email System v3.0.2.10nl Professional on Windows XP SP2 PGP Key Request: See Headers or send email with subj.: send HenksKeyID Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://gswot.webhop.info/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (MingW32) iD8DBQFBwdJgEgabk9vm5ngRAqeqAJ9Qn0HMlo8FmQqwHbsT8G43f9WLTQCfaecj IIyPnFbevbiT4d2pkq5sXeU= =wP6S -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 16 Dec 2004, @ @ at 17:15:18 +, when Tony Boom wrote: Perhaps if you took up the enlargement offerings it would draw the attention away from your white hairy chest and you wouldn't need to shave it :) I *knew* that some easier solution existed. Thanks you. (-. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast :flagmica: [Earth LOG: 106 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBwdrj9q62QPd3XuIRAlHeAJ9xhev1Cx1/m4mavEN4WPRkmrUubwCeMd+6 lutX3IBAONDWr1wLT46UhF8= =Uurz -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: where do you keep your attachments?
Roman Katzer @ 2004-Dec-16 9:43:23 AM where do you keep your attachments? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, I should have mentioned that I have that checked. However, it doesn't seem to work with messages that are directly deleted from a folder without going to the trash bin first. I have my spam folders set up so that deleting messages from them doesn't move them to the trash folder but deletes them completely right away. Perhaps you found a bug. See if it works if the messages are first moved to the Trash. Then, submit a bug report. http://www.ritlabs.com/bt -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Today's Oxymoron: Clearly misunderstood pgpjFBLMuydbA.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter just isn't working
Hallo Matt, On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:19:59 -0800GMT (17-12-2004, 0:19 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MT I have created, deleted, tinkered with, and re-created the below MT filter. For whatever reason, it never works when mail arrives. Two options come to mind. 1) It isn't an incoming filter 2) It isn't triggered, because another filter gets triggered by the message first. -- Groetjes, Roelof Hi, I'm a tagline. When I grow up I'm gonna be a novel! The Bat! 3.0.2.10 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpoWSN9BPcRr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Alexander, A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz on TBUDL typed on: 15 December 2004 at 11:20:42 GMT +0100 ASK I prefer Miranda IM. Does MSN, ICQ, AOL and whatnot in one app. And ASK its free. http://www.miranda-im.org/ As does and is Gaim for Linux. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 15/12/2004 at 11:08 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 PGP Key http://www.theboomclan.com/pgp.txt smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Configuring TB to work with MSN e-mail
Hello Anthony, A reminder of what Anthony G. Atkielski on TBUDL typed on: 14 December 2004 at 22:51:18 GMT +0100 AGA Can TB be configured to access MSN e-mail accounts? If so, what are the AGA required parameters? Does MSN support pop or IMAP access? If so then TB! should be able to access it. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 14/12/2004 at 22:03 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 PGP Key http://www.theboomclan.com/pgp.txt smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Ludovic, A reminder of what Ludovic LE MOAL on TBUDL typed on: 14 December 2004 at 18:33:18 GMT +0100 LLM That's strange : when you go on Account properties Transport and LLM when you click on « Authentification » for « Receive Mail », there's LLM an MSN (NTLM) option. Strange Lets get this straight, I thought this wiwiwiwi character wanted to use The Bat to send and receive from a hotmail account? Even the title of this thread suggests that's what he wants. What has MSN got to do with Hotmail, apart from the fact they're both Microsoft. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 14/12/2004 at 18:38 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 PGP Key http://www.theboomclan.com/pgp.txt smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Dear Wilwilwil, @15-Dec-2004, 00:55 +0100 (14-Dec 23:55 UK time) WilWilWil [W] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Tony: TB What has MSN got to do with Hotmail, apart from the fact they're both Microsoft. W I don't know exactly the difference. It's difficult for me to W understand. I try to explain the history : W 1- First I needed an instant electronic mail : so I 've chosen MSN Messenger There are other chat programs available - programs like Trillian (which has a free version) and Miranda IM (my fave) that both allow you access to *multiple* chat protocols (including MSN). W 2- To work with MSN Messenger, I had to create a passport with W a Hotmail account : so I created an address like [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is not entirely true. You are perfectly entitled to create an MSN passport using whatever email address you like. You are not forced to use a hotmail account or even have one. My own MSN passport and IM chat address is based on this one! W 3- Microsoft force you to have a use of the hotmail at least W one time per month. If not, your account (mail and messenger W account) is deleted ! W 4-I didn't want to use this hotmail ... W 5- ... W And if I want POP and SMTP features with my Microsoft hotmail, W it cost 20 EUR per year ! :-( A little bit expensive for just using W Messenger and never use the mails... So - why not get a new passport based on your regular email address and use that and save yourself all these issues? -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgpT1bB0F4wqu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello WilWilWil, A reminder of what WilWilWil on TBUDL typed on: 15 December 2004 at 01:03:24 GMT +0100 W Exactly : To work with MSN Messenger, I had to create a passport with a Hotmail account ! No, you didn't. You did, but you really didn't need to. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 15/12/2004 at 09:09 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 PGP Key http://www.theboomclan.com/pgp.txt smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Thu, 16 Dec 2004, @ @ at 04:29:47 -0300, when Diego Ducatenzeiler wrote: No way to avoid that. I´ve signed on a DSL account, the gave me three email boxes. Never used them, I use yahoo for lists and gmail for personal things. Yesterday, I´ve checked them to see if they were up, and they were full of spam (200-300 msg. each, no, I don´t need penis enlargement, thanks). Yes, that's amazing how those people assume things. Never gave the address to anybody, and the provider says he didn´t release the info. The weird thing is, I practically don´t get spam on the yahoo account (2-3 a week, and gone with K9). I suspect some other things as well, lately: that spammers subscribe to the lists in order to harvest addresses. So even if the addresses are truncated at web interface of a list, there are those appearing in body parts when messages arrive directly to local mailers. As I see, you have your mailto in the body of your messages. Could that be the possible cause? Another reason for this suspicion of mine, is this: if I write something about illegal software, I start to receive offerings related to cheap software; if I write something about drugs, I get heaps of related offerings, and, most painful, if I write about sex, I get an avalanche of these... enlargement offerings. Honestly, I do not need any of these three, *especially* not *some* of them. But you be now wise and tell this somehow to the reverend spammers... - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast :flagmica: [Earth LOG: 106 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBwaLU9q62QPd3XuIRAjFwAJ41vIXRTtBGmLON9PUThK4SH98ihwCfZMxC 0lN5PhQVfuIinzMcu2sBF9k= =Rr+e -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Who's stealing from TB?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ._)~~ ~( __ _o Was another beautiful day, Wed, 15 Dec 2004, @ @ at 21:29:48 -0500, when Watcher wrote: Any other PIM manager competing for attention, like Palm Desktop? Nope, just outlook which I have uninstalled. If you have it uninstalled, then is possible that not all registry entries related to it are deleted. It happens. You could check it out by some registry cleaner. Right click the desktop Internet Explorer icon and choose properties then programs There doesn't seem to be any reference to an email program in IE properties. Note below I'm using XP, maybe that's why? ...And, additionally, it's possible that XP is regenerating registry entries at startup (especially if the components which are integrated in OS, and OE is one of them, are removed from OS; MS like to do such things, to feel better). I have in mind, at the moment, two ways: XPlite_trial, which is free and which can remove OE (and some other integrated components) quite safely with all related reg. entries, so it will not bother you anymore. I do that by default, with OE, when am installing XP. Then I run TB without any problems. Another way is using RegRun www.greatis.com, which is not free, but has a trial period of 30 days, so you can do what you need. But it relates more to tweaking and cleaning the Registry. (It has pretty extensive Help 'tips and tricks' related to Win OSs, from 95 to XP.) RegRun is a powerful PC security suite designed to work on Windows 95/98/ME/NT4/2000/XP platforms. This extraordinary software consists of a number of utilities which work together to provide exceptional control over programs that load from the registry, Windows system files, downloads, or user selection. By closely tracking and managing all processes, RegRun can effectively detect hidden trojan horses, viruses, or other unauthorized programs. RegRun begins its activity before startup other programs, analyzes the Windows registry and initialization files, and warns the user if any changes occurred. The user can prevent unwanted programs from loading, choose his own startup profile, or debug the startup process using a sanitized startup of Windows. RegRun is especially designed for the newest Microsoft Windows platforms: Windows ME and Windows 2000/XP, and use their powerful resources. But XPlite trial is much smaller, safer and easier: www.litepc.com. - -- Mica PGP key uploaded at: http://pgp.mit.edu/ once just before breakfast :eyes: [Earth LOG: 106 day(s) since v3.0 unleashing] OS: Windows 98 SE Micro Lite Professional IVa Enterprise Millennium with nestled ZipSlack(tm) 9.1 UMSDOS Linux, and with Bochs 2.1.1 with a small DLX Linux; and, for TB sometimes Libranet (Linux) 2.8.1, via Cross Over Office -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQFBwZtr9q62QPd3XuIRAjeFAJ0Wu+ezO9cKGv1nJNFUpT4vQOyuMgCgivy4 t7Aqq/Tnl9hU0m39wV2zq8k= =+9bj -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello P.Johnson, Wednesday, December 15, 2004, 1:24:47 PM, you wrote: PJ I was also getting a ton of spam through g-mail. The last batch I PJ reported (as per the button on the main g-mail window) and haven't PJ had any since. Could be coincidence but if you haven't tried it... I had a problem with that. There´s a famous writer, García Márquez, who wrote a book after 10 years of silence, named ´Memorias de mis putas tristes´, translated, Memories of my sad sluts (or any other synonim you can find (-8 ). The preorder of the book was a mess, the spam filters all over killed the messages coming and going. I didn´t get a single message about the book on gmail. PD: Sorry about my lousy english. -- Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Diego +-- | The Bat! 3.0.1.33 + K9 v1.28 | Windows XP Build 2600 +-- pgpWB5VidBD3G.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:OT: IM clients
Hello Marck, On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, at 11:35:59 [GMT +] (1:00 PM here) you wrote: However, having said that, we're veering way OT here and should continue this discourse on TBOT if it has any room left for expansion. True, but just to let you know I hadn't decided on an IM yet and I found this OT very useful, thanks all. -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: You cannot hurry up the growing of a plant by pulling the leaves. - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpYXu9H212bf.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: making folder views stick
Hello Andre, Wednesday, December 15, 2004, 6:46:26 AM, you wrote: You change the view mode. This change affects all folders using that view mode or in the case of a global view mode all folders. OK, I think I'm getting it now ;) So a *global* view affect *all folders* regardless of an individual folder's setting? If this is the case, it explains my confusion. I was interpreting Global View mode more as a default view - the view applied to all folders unless a specific view is applied to a folder. So a change in global view mode changes *everything* eh? And to get back to my folder's view mode, I would simply go back to No view mode?? If all this is true, I'm a bit confused about Global views and their usefulness. What is the purpose of the folder properties Column settings.. Use view mode: selection? Those choices are global views. Why would they be listed under a folder's property page if they don't apply only to that folder? Wait a minute perhaps there is activity in my brain after all... I think I found my problem... My assumption was that selecting a folder and then selecting a view from the view menu (global view) was the same as selecting a view from the folder property page. I see now that is not the case. My problem in trying to figure this out was missing the essential point that Peter posted: I think the critical point is in the menu View -- Global View Mode. This should be set to No View Mode, then the special folder views will stick. --- I guess a better question would be what is the difference between the View|View Threads By... option and the View|Global View... options? The first lets you change the view mode you are currently using by changing the threading model. The second lets you switch to a different global view mode or none at all. I understood this, but you articulated it in such a way that left no doubt (changing the threading model) - thanks. How do I quickly change the view/threading of one folder without affecting other folders? In the folder properties choose folder specific settings. The more practial approach would be to just reverse your change to the view mode after you are finished, though. Right. I was confusing changing the threading model with applying views. I think that because Global view can be applied so easily and so similar to threading models (Shift+Alt+n, Alt+n) I was getting confused. Thanks for you help. I know (or knew...) how to do this Hope that helps. This helped a lot. I have TheBat working as I want. I sure missed the helpful demeanor and responsiveness of this list while on TheBat vacation... thanks. Now I just gotta go dig out my list welcome message out of Thunderbird so I can find the list signature macro -- Best regards, kenmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Filter just isn't working
On Thursday, December 16, 2004 @ 4:15:47 PM [-0700], Roelof Otten wrote: Two options come to mind. 1) It isn't an incoming filter 2) It isn't triggered, because another filter gets triggered by the message first. It is an incoming filter, and I moved it to the top of the filter list just to be sure. -- Matt Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT: IM clients
Dear Peter, @15-Dec-2004, 11:32 +0100 (15-Dec 10:32 UK time) Peter Fjelsten [PF] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Alexander: ASK I prefer Miranda IM. Does MSN, ICQ, AOL and whatnot in one app. And ASK its free. http://www.miranda-im.org/ PF Or Gaim http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ - which also does the open PF source protocol Jabber. As does Miranda ... with the added bonus that it's designed for Windows primarily and has extra plugins that are really top notch. If you like GAIM, you'll adore Miranda. However, having said that, we're veering way OT here and should continue this discourse on TBOT if it has any room left for expansion. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgp2KvrNkX7oe.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Mark, A reminder of what Mark Partous on TBUDL typed on: 14 December 2004 at 23:26:49 GMT +0100 MP Well, as far as age is concerned, I'm not a kid. Nor am I a spammer. MP I do have an Hotmail account though. MP Albeit only for the following reasons: MP - I used it for testing purposes first (a few messages/month) MP - I then also started usng the account for IM, although I seldom use MP Messenger; I'm using Trillian [ that's not Mary! ] instead. Would you use it for anything serious? Other than providing an email address when filling in forms on web pages because you don't want to use a real everyday personal address? I have a yahoo address for exactly that an it must be so full of crap now I daren't look at it. Also my G-Mail account is now getting spam regularly after about one month and the only place I ever used it is on here. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 14/12/2004 at 22:36 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 PGP Key http://www.theboomclan.com/pgp.txt smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Who's stealing from TB?
Hello tbudl, Been lurking a while but now I have a question, Every time I restart windows I have to tell TB to go ahead and reassociate EML with TB, I have tried doing it by hand but no matter what it get's switched back somehow. Any suggestions as to who the very impolite app is that's stealing the association without asking? -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error. - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgprcY0d84Dw1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello WilWilWil, Tuesday, December 14, 2004, 11:59:37 PM, you wrote: MP I'm using Trillian [ that's not Mary! :-) ] instead I've ever heard about Trillian. I think you can use ICQ and MSN Messenger with it ? True ? Is it Free ? There is a free version and a licenced version, I use the licenced version but an old key at that :) Sean -- ICQ: 679813 YAHOO: thecivvie Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: tcobone O2 +353863868343 Vodafone +353872628431 Im listening to arcondicionadoTOYOTA. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Who's stealing from TB?
Hello Andrew, On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, at 20:59:53 [GMT -0500] (9:28 PM here) you wrote: Any other PIM manager competing for attention, like Palm Desktop? Nope, just outlook which I have uninstalled. Right click the desktop Internet Explorer icon and choose properties then programs There doesn't seem to be any reference to an email program in IE properties. Note below I'm using XP, maybe that's why? -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: I can read your mind, and you should be ashamed of yourself. - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpJJH05dipAl.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Alexander, Thursday, December 16, 2004, 5:17:34 AM, you wrote: No way to avoid that. I´ve signed on a DSL account, the gave me three email boxes. Never used them, I use yahoo for lists and gmail for personal things. Yesterday, I´ve checked them to see if they were up, and they were full of spam (200-300 msg. each, no, I don´t need penis enlargement, thanks). ASK Spammers are targetting large freemail services (gmx, web.de, yahoo, ASK hotmail, msn, etc.) with name generators. Probably valid email ASK addresses (john.smith john_smith james.smith james_smith etc. etc., ASK you get the idea) will be generated sent out. Yeah, I assumed that. But the account isn´t a freemail service, it´s a paid service, and a big one for Argentina (50.000 users at 3 to 10 accounts each). Although, half of the spam is spanish, so I think commercial spam filters would have a hard time figuring it out, as common spanish has at least four times the amount of words as the full non-technical english; and every dialect has words unique to them. -- Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Diego +-- | The Bat! 3.0.1.33 + K9 v1.28 | Windows XP Build 2600 +-- pgpNFUutyz2YH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Configuring TB to work with MSN e-mail
Hello Alexander, A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz on TBUDL typed on: 14 December 2004 at 23:30:41 GMT +0100 ASK http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=msn+pop+server - first hit gives you ASK the server addresses... See what I mean about great minds, you hit the very same google page I did :) ASK ...and shouldn't the provider... uhmmm... provide that information? I would have thought so but you must remember, we're talking about Microsoft :) -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 14/12/2004 at 22:41 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 PGP Key http://www.theboomclan.com/pgp.txt smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Mark, A reminder of what Mark Partous on TBUDL typed on: 14 December 2004 at 17:07:19 GMT +0100 MP It is possible (supported by the provider) for UK Yahoo accounts. Yahoo? Sorry, I got the wrong end of the twig, I thought he was talking about Hotmail. Who uses Hotmail anyway other than kids and spammers? -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 14/12/2004 at 16:38 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 PGP Key http://www.theboomclan.com/pgp.txt smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
OTR Afterthoughts
I just remembered something I half-way considered, but decided I was already so far along that it wouldn't make much sense: There's a dealer offering 30,000 OTR shows on 35 DVDs for 89.95 (I think he raised his price $10 for Christmas): http://www.bookzap.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=YPC-6XCE Same dealer has what he claims is a complete set of CBS Radio Mystery Theater on 4 DVDs. These dealers all snatch things up from the USENET groups mentioned before, and the quality varies from great to miserable (just like it did with tapes). I find the quality to be at least 90%-95% acceptable. Are you up to date on MP3 format? You don't have to play these things on the computer--there are a lot of CD and DVD players that are MP3 compatible, but they don't all have the needed features. Some won't play low bitrate files, such as most OTR recordings. The only way to be sure is to bring a disk to the store and try it out. Also, the Rio Volt offers a true pause/resume feature, so that you can stop and power off the player in the middle of an episode, then pick back up at exactly that point. There's an art to getting the right player. Here's a fairly complete listing of my OTR collection to date: Adventure (early BBC, OTREE 17) Adventures by Morse (1 cd) Al Jolsen (2 CD) Aliens in the Mind (on Serials Vol. 1 cd) All Star Western Theatre (1 cd, Otree 26) All Star Western Theatre (1 cd, Otree 26) American Trail (1 cd, partial) Amos Andy (3 cds, OTREE 15) Aussie 6-pack (6 CDs, part ? of all Aussie collections?) Australian Collection (misc series, 6 cds) BBC Detectives (1 cd, Otree 017) Big One, The (WWII, 4 sets totalling approx 16 disks) Bing Crosby (5 cds) Bold Venture (partial cd w/ Fu Manchu) Box-13 (1 cd, OTREE 07) Burns Allen (2 cds from OTRCDME, second set, 3 cds) Cavalcade of America (4 cds) CBS Workshop (1 CD) Challenge of the Yukon (1, misc episodes) Christmas OTR (3 cds) Cisco Kid (2 cds w/ Cowboy Collection) Classic Westerns (sampler, partial 1 cd, with American Trail) Complete Broadcast Day 1939 (1 cd) Cowboy Collection (4 cds) Crime Classics (1 cd) Dark Island (early BBC, OTREE 17) Dennis Day (partial 1 cd) Dimension X (1 cd, OTREE 05) Dr Morelle (early BBC, OTREE 17) Dr. Jekyll (on Serials Vol. 1 cd) Dr. Morell (on Serials Vol. 1 cd) Dr. Who (4 cds, includes TV audio) Dragnet (5 cds, OTREE 06) Eddie Cantor [5 cds] Escape (2 cds, OTREE 07) Father Knows Best (1 partial cd w/ My Favorite Husband) First Nighter (1 CD) Fort Laramie (partial 1 cd, with American Trail; partial cd with Cowboy Collection dsk 3) Frankenstein (on Serials Vol. 1 cd) Fred Allen (3 cds) Frontier Fighters (partial cd with Cowboy Collection dsk 3) Frontier Gentleman (OTREE 14; partial cd with Cowboy Collection dsk 4) Fu Manchu, Shadow of (partial cd) Ghost Corp (on Serials Vol. 1 cd) Glen Miller (3 cds) Great Gildersleeves (4 cds, OTREE 13) Gunsmoke (6 cds, OTREE 12) Have Gun Will Travel (2 cds, OTREE 14) History of Rock'n'Roll (5 cds) Horation Hornblower (partial cd w/ Fu Manchu) Hornblower (early BBC, OTREE 17) I Was a Communist for the FBI (1 cd) Information Please (3 cds) Inner Sanctum (2 cds) Jack Benny (9 cds, OTREE 037, v. 2.5?) Jack Webb (2 cds) Jerry of the Circus/at Fair Oaks (1 cd) Jimmy Durante (1 CD) Johnny Dollar (3 cds) Journey into Space (1 cd, OTREE 01) Judy Garland (1 cd, misc shows) Kraken Wakes (on Serials Vol. 1 cd) Legend of Robin Hood (partial cd w/ Fu Manchu) Luke Slaughter (partial 1 cd, Otree 26) Luke Slaughter (partial cd, OTREE 26) LUX (11 CD) Man Called X (1 CD) Mel Blanc Fixit Shop (1 CD) Mixed Package (Jerry, Kids, News, Short Series, WW2, FullDay - 4 cd, branch) (OTREE 20) Molle Mystery Theater (1 cd) Moon Over Africa (on Serials Vol. 1 cd) My Favorite Husband (1 partial cd) OMAR of Persia ?(1 CD) Omar the Wizard (on Serials Vol. 1 cd) One Man's Family (with Soap Operas) (OTREE 21) Orbit One Zero (1) (OTREE 01) Orson Welles Collection (3 cds, OTREE 08) Other Detectives, The (5 cds) Our Miss Brooks (4 cds, inc 2 VCD) Ozzie Harriet (1 partial cd w/ My Favorite Husband) Paul Temple (early BBC, OTREE 17) Pharoh (early BBC, OTREE 17) Phil Harris (1 cd) Phillip Marlowe (1 cd) Philo Vance (1 cd) Raffles (on Sherlock Holmes dsk 3) Railroad Hour (partial 1 cd w/ Dennis Day) Red Skelton (2 cds + bonus cd, OTREE 18) Rudy Valley (partial 1 cd w/ Dennis Day) Screen Directors Guild/Screen Guild Theater (3 CD) Shadow (3 cds) Sherlock Holmes (3 cds, OTREE 17) Silent Men (partial 1 cd w/ Luke Slaughter, Otree 26) Silent Men (partial cd w/ Luke Slaughter, OTREE 26) Six Shooter (OTREE 14; partial 1 cd, with American Trail) partial cd with Cowboy Collection dsk 4) Soap Operas (4 cds, inc. One Man's Family] (OTREE 21) Spy Catcher (early BBC, OTREE 17) Superman (6 cds, OTREE 32) Suspense (10 cds - 900 plus episodes, OTREE 36) Tales of the Texas Rangers (2 cds) (OTREE 10) Tarzan (serials 1950s, 2 cd, recording artifacts) Tom Mix (partial cd with Cowboy Collection dsk 4) Top Secret
Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Mark, A reminder of what Mark Partous on TBUDL typed on: 14 December 2004 at 23:19:01 GMT +0100 MP Apparently he needs to use it (in/with messenger) for some reason. Somewhere along the line Hotmail got confused with MSN. Apparently you can use pop/smtp with @msn.com but not @hotmail.com. I got the impression he thought they was one and the same. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 14/12/2004 at 22:23 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 PGP Key http://www.theboomclan.com/pgp.txt smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello WilWilWil, A reminder of what WilWilWil on TBUDL typed on: 14 December 2004 at 01:00:52 GMT +0100 TB Who uses Hotmail anyway other than kids and spammers? W A lot of students use it in France. Be sure... I rest my case :) -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 15/12/2004 at 09:08 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 PGP Key http://www.theboomclan.com/pgp.txt smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Tony, Tuesday, December 14, 2004, 7:41:01 PM, you wrote: TB I have a yahoo address for exactly that an it must be so full of crap now I TB daren't look at it. Also my G-Mail account is now getting spam regularly after TB about one month and the only place I ever used it is on here. No way to avoid that. I´ve signed on a DSL account, the gave me three email boxes. Never used them, I use yahoo for lists and gmail for personal things. Yesterday, I´ve checked them to see if they were up, and they were full of spam (200-300 msg. each, no, I don´t need penis enlargement, thanks). Never gave the address to anybody, and the provider says he didn´t release the info. The weird thing is, I practically don´t get spam on the yahoo account (2-3 a week, and gone with K9). -- Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Diego +-- | The Bat! 3.0.1.33 + K9 v1.28 | Windows XP Build 2600 +-- pgpBDI98YMWeG.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Gmane / subject on replies with counter / threading
Hello TB Lists, Just thought I'd let those of you who use counters in your subject with a reply (i.e. Re[2]: GnuPG 1.4.0) that it messes up the threading in my newsreader (i.e. Agent 1.93) when I pull from Gmane. Not that you really care about my newsreader because I do NOT. I figure you may care about the others who do use a newsreader to read TB lists. I figure if it messes up Agent, then it is most likely to mess up other threading with other non-Agent Newsreaders except for of course those who use TB. If you do not care and like to play games on those using newsreaders, then leave it like it is. With the volume down like it is on TB lists, it may not much matter. :-) -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello WilWilWil, A reminder of what WilWilWil on TBUDL typed on: 14 December 2004 at 16:18:34 GMT +0100 W If you or somebody else know what is wrong, you can help me if you want W by private mail, because I don't want to bother the list with foxmail help W needed. You can't use pop/smtp for web based mail with standard email clients unless the provider actually supports it like G-Mail. Hotmail on the other hand doesn't, I'm pretty sure of that. You'll need a third party addon like web2pop to be able to do it. The Bat can't access web based email unless pop access is supported by the provider. Some people think ThunderBird is good, but it can't work the impossible. -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 14/12/2004 at 15:46 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 PGP Key http://www.theboomclan.com/pgp.txt smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Configuring TB to work with MSN e-mail
Hello Anthony, A reminder of what Anthony G. Atkielski on TBUDL typed on: 14 December 2004 at 23:08:56 GMT +0100 AGA Fine, but with what parameters (servers, settings, etc.)? I don't use MSN so I wouldn't know. I assume you have an MSN account? If so logon to it and read the FAQ's, Docs, instructions whatever, relative to your account. AGA Yes, MSN (the paying version) supposedly supports POP3/SMTP clients. In that case try this and see what happens. pop3.email.msn.com and smtp.email.msn.com Sorry but you'll need to find out what user name and password to use yourself :) -- Best regards,Tony. _ Message composed on 14/12/2004 at 22:18 UTC 2004 - AWB Using The Bat! v3.0.2.10 on Windows XP 5. 1 Build 2600 PGP Key http://www.theboomclan.com/pgp.txt smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Gmane / subject on replies with counter / threading
On Thu, 2004-12-16, Greg Strong wrote: Hello TB Lists, Just thought I'd let those of you who use counters in your subject with a reply (i.e. Re[2]: GnuPG 1.4.0) that it messes up the threading in my newsreader (i.e. Agent 1.93) when I pull from Gmane. Not that you really care about my newsreader because I do NOT. I figure you may care about the others who do use a newsreader to read TB lists. I figure if it messes up Agent, then it is most likely to mess up other threading with other non-Agent Newsreaders except for of course those who use TB. If you do not care and like to play games on those using newsreaders, then leave it like it is. With the volume down like it is on TB lists, it may not much matter. :-) It should interest the users and developers of TB that the use of the simple Re: at the beginning of the Subject of a reply is controversial within the Internet Engineering Task Force which develops protocols like email. Some think that is was a mistake in the first place and some think that it is alright and should be handled by email programs. However, just about everyone agrees that any other notations (like: Re(2):, 2Re:, Ant:, or many others) should NEVER be used since email programs cannot be expected to figure out all of the clever things that programmers like to put in. Note that an email program needs to find and ignore any such prefix in order to search and sort Subjects or to create its own reply Subjects. My recommendation is to uncheck Use reply numbering in the subject line in all reply templates. -- Bill McQuillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 2.11 on Windows XP 5.1 build 2600-Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Mica, Thursday, December 16, 2004, 1:22:19 PM, you wrote: common spanish has at least four times the amount of words as the full non-technical english; and every dialect has words unique to them. MM Filter them by headers then? Nope, use the long term solution: feed K9 EVERYTHING arriving in spanish, and after 3000/3500 msgs, it´s getting the hang of it. MM What form of addressing your spammers use? Something like Just dduca73 @ yahoo and dduca @ myprovider.com.ar (arnet). More on the next reply. -- Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Diego +-- | The Bat! 3.0.1.33 + K9 v1.28 | MyMacros 1.11a | Windows XP Build 2600 +-- pgp7EzWRRHe3u.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Mica, Thursday, December 16, 2004, 11:59:33 AM, you wrote: MM I suspect some other things as well, lately: that spammers subscribe to MM the lists in order to harvest addresses. (...) MM As I see, you have your mailto in the body of your messages. Could MM that be the possible cause? That´s the funny thing. I DONT´T get spam to the mail I write with smoke in the sky for everyone to see! And instead, I get a lot from an account that I´ve never accesed since creation, a month ago. Being honest, they all start with dduca, and they´re all listed in my PGP key, but I don´t believe they go harvest there. MM Another reason for this suspicion of mine, is this: if I write something MM about illegal software, I start to receive offerings related to cheap MM software; if I write something about drugs, I get heaps of related MM offerings FYI, I´m subscribed to around 30 lists, some for ex-jobs I like to get current (I´m working in a hotel since 2002 and the Argentine crisis) just in case. Pharmaceutical (I have a degree in chemistry), telecoms (worked there too), some personals including RPGs, Magic the gathering (yeah, I know), school, college and university ex-student groups, RC modeling, and some computer-related. I don´t browse for porn, since (a), I´m married quite recently, and (b), let´s be honest, it´s easier and cheaper to rent. So... I don´t get a pattern. Oh, and it´s beginning to get heavier on nig-419. No messages about toys, nor models, nor drugs (except the viagra-enlargement), nor games. I think about the same as you, bt I can´t confirm that suspicion with facts... (-8 MM if I write about sex, I get an avalanche of these... enlargement offerings. MM Honestly, I do not need any of these three, *especially* not *some* of them. And there´s no way to tell them that 95% of the girls like it as we like Coke, regular, please... (-8 PD: All that typing, and my mate got cold ;-) -- Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Diego +-- | The Bat! 3.0.1.33 + K9 v1.28 | MyMacros 1.11a | Windows XP Build 2600 +-- pgpaCjkc48Z0O.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hello Tony, Thursday, December 16, 2004, 2:15:18 PM, you wrote: enlargement offerings. Honestly, I do not need any of these TB Perhaps if you took up the enlargement offerings it would draw the attention TB away from your white hairy chest and you wouldn't need to shave it :) Hey! It´s not his fault that (put a cross on the right circle) () He works nights and barely sees the sun half hour a day (like I do) () He lives in a place where the night lasts six months (not like I do) () He is a sun-hater vampire (definitely not like I am) -- Best regards, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Diego +-- | The Bat! 3.0.1.33 + K9 v1.28 | MyMacros 1.11a | Windows XP Build 2600 +-- pgpI4pyV98J2I.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:Who's stealing from TB?
Hello Chris, On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, at 20:08:59 [GMT -0500] (8:50 PM here) you wrote: Are you logged in as the administrator when you do this? Well, I'm logged in as AN administrator if that's your question. -- Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Watcher aka Bill DeVos - Random Quote: Invalid thought detected. Close all mental processes and restart body. - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6 mQCPA0G35HIBbgEEALMndzJ2lVKRqV0QW/BF4d8goCFkb7B+ojnSBich4YL7db+O gmYvBbxu2oJBo/CCRZeDisYRPdRMFmTvsFqUvkuJOiXNvAkDiFCmIWYVJ0mBu8Es io7DNaxYggbd4uEtOd6OGuytuWea7Yb9+TJraQxG+anKVI8uqdf++W79nFLzABEB AAG0IVdhdGNoZXIgPHRoZS53YXRjaGVyQGJpZ2Zvb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEEG35HLX /vlu/ZxS8wEBroEEAIWxSsL3wrQWJwef4h9DtqTp8Gf05QQk3MYAOeT3myRCXYH4 MKkcHwarhgX9vDNmezf6GihJz6uKUaTzmOAWUPNGEpeG/l1or8+3+y75wYRms8Lg zu7qY2slrfydj4mdvG7T80VPPpjYQKSCJRHoqOstLnLgysF9WwAEXZ9aMYBp =VG8l -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- pgpQILfX5B89g.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: %Account question
Hallo Thomas, On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 21:47:33 +0700GMT (13-12-2004, 15:47 +0100, where I live), you wrote: TF Is it an easy task to switch the account filters to become TF commoan filters? Yes, provided that you don't have common filters already. Just move the account.srb file from your account directory to your mail directory (normally that would be one directory up). Take care to delete any existing account.srx (pld filter system) file from your business account directory, otherwise that will be converted again to account.srb (NFS) TF - There are also some filters in the Personal account that I want TF to maintain, so these filters need to be executed first before the TF common filters kick in for the rest of the mails (that now stay in TF the Personal Inbox). I don't know what filters take precedence. TF Furthermore, I want to reply from the Personal account if the original TF was sent to the Personal account. How do I do that? Do I need to TF assign a colour group first to use the %Account= macro? Why use a colour group? An %If statement testing whether your private address is included in the addressees should work fine. Before making major alterations a back-up session might be prudent. -- Groetjes, Roelof Yawn: The only time some men get to open their mouths. The Bat! 3.0.2.10 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgplxjwyJPd9V.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
IMAP?
Hello, I am new to IMAP and I would like some help! What is the best settings? Are there some tweaks I need to do? The IMAP server I use is imap.everyone.net More info can be found at www.everyone.net (I don't know what to look after) -- Best regards, Kian Andersen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://neksus.dk | http://neksus.deviantart.com The Bat! 3.0.2.10 with BayesIt! 0.7.6 Windows XP Service Pack 2 (5.1.2600) Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: where do you keep your attachments?
Hi Marten, Any suggestion on how to delete attachment files unassociated with any mail? In Options - Files Directories... there's an option - delete attachments when message removed from trash - Thanks, I should have mentioned that I have that checked. However, it doesn't seem to work with messages that are directly deleted from a folder without going to the trash bin first. I have my spam folders set up so that deleting messages from them doesn't move them to the trash folder but deletes them completely right away. Roman -- NEU +++ DSL Komplett von GMX +++ http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl GMX DSL-Netzanschluss + Tarif zum supergünstigen Komplett-Preis! Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: where do you keep your attachments?
Hi Gerard, I believe you can do a backup from within TB! and check store attachments with msg. If you then delete your current installation and reinstall using your backup all attachments without an email msg should be gone. That could work. It's also quite cumbersome, though - not for regular execution, I guess. If nothing else works, I will try this. Roman -- -- NEU +++ DSL Komplett von GMX +++ http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl GMX DSL-Netzanschluss + Tarif zum supergünstigen Komplett-Preis! Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Plugin Hotmail for TB3 ?
Hi Diego, On Thursday, December 16, 2004, 11:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PJ I was also getting a ton of spam through g-mail. The last batch I PJ reported (as per the button on the main g-mail window) and haven't PJ had any since. Could be coincidence but if you haven't tried it... DD I had a problem with that. There´s a famous writer, García Márquez, DD who wrote a book after 10 years of silence, named ´Memorias de mis DD putas tristes´, translated, Memories of my sad sluts (or any other DD synonim you can find (-8 ). The preorder of the book was a mess, the DD spam filters all over killed the messages coming and going. I didn´t DD get a single message about the book on gmail. I see I am still getting spam to the g-mail account, though it is going into the Spam folder. After reading your message I will double-check the Spam folder from now on. DD PD: Sorry about my lousy english. Nothing wrong with your English. :-) -- Best wishes, Pat A Canadian in Houston Using The Bat! v3.0.2.8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Filter just isn't working
Hi,
I have created, deleted, tinkered with, and re-created the below
filter. For whatever reason, it never works when mail arrives.
However, it works fine if I re-filter the folder. Can anyone see
anything that I may be missing? The filter is very basic, it just
lookes for a word in the subject line and moves it to a folder if it
sees it...
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [F12DD680.01C4E3B5.4D3783A7.7F383247]
Name: Root
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`2`0`ns1.thoene.net\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CMatt\5Cwww-mail\20IDS
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
--
Regards
Matt
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