Re: Greek characters
Hello A.Translator, Saturday, April 25, 2009, 6:00:59 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): > Very interesting, Costas. I looked again and I do have both those checked in > the font list. But if it works for you, it should work for me. > Or is the address book font ruled by some other windows settings outside of > TB!'s font list? > Do you have Greek as default language in your Windows configuration, perhaps? > If you use Windwos at all. Here's an example of copy-pasting the example text in the Middle name and E-Mail addresses fields. (This mail was originally not sent by my ISP and it may, therefore, appear to be out of sequence in the thread). -- Kind regards, Costas Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
Hello Eddie, Saturday, April 25, 2009, 9:26:08 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): > Dear Costas, > What OS are you using? A.Translator is using Vista. It may help in problem > solving. Just a thought. I'm using Windows XP SP3. -- Kind regards, Costas Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
On Saturday, April 25, 2009, 18:15:07, A.Translator wrote: > No, tried that as well. It must have to do with a "deeper" settinfgs within > Windows, but since I only want to experiment and won't use a lot of Greek in > my > addresses, I don't want to mess with the system language. As I said, the problem is that the address book format uses system codepage encoding for the text - the system codepage is "Language for non-Unicode programs". You can use AppLocale[1] to run a single program in another codepage, however be aware that doing this will make that program unable to use characters out of that codepage (eg. right now TB can't use Greek characters in address book - when you run it in Greek locale, you won't be able to use characters from Western codepage [or whatever you're using now]). [1] http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&familyid=8C4E8E0D-45D1-4D9B-B7C0-8430C1AC89AB -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ > Nothing is ever done for the right reason. -- O'Brien's Rule Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
Hello Eddie Castelli Sunday, April 26, 2009, 1:26:08 AM, you wrote: I had once Vista installed and after an hour I kicked it out. I know one program which needs to run in 64 bit and which also needs a lot of ram so it runs faster on vista but we have no antivirus programs and no Internet on the system. I use XP myself with SATA and a 2 core processor (pentium) EC> Dear Costas, EC> --->>> Costas Papadopoulos / Samstag 25.04.2009, 18:33:13 EC> Greek characters >>> It must have to do with a "deeper" settinfgs within Windows, but >>> since I only want to experiment and won't use a lot of Greek in my >>> addresses, I don't want to mess with the system language. >> During the installation of Windows I was given the option to select >> a language for non Unicode programs. At that point I chose Greek as >> that language. Doing this solved a lot of problems for me, >> especially where I wanted to make some input in Greek in various >> program dialogs. EC> What OS are you using? A.Translator is using Vista. It may help in problem solving. Just a thought. -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
Dear Costas, --->>> Costas Papadopoulos / Samstag 25.04.2009, 18:33:13 Greek characters >> It must have to do with a "deeper" settinfgs within Windows, but >> since I only want to experiment and won't use a lot of Greek in my >> addresses, I don't want to mess with the system language. > During the installation of Windows I was given the option to select > a language for non Unicode programs. At that point I chose Greek as > that language. Doing this solved a lot of problems for me, > especially where I wanted to make some input in Greek in various > program dialogs. What OS are you using? A.Translator is using Vista. It may help in problem solving. Just a thought. -- liebe Grüsse www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
Hello A.Translator Saturday, April 25, 2009, 11:15:26 PM, you wrote: AT> Costas Papadopoulos stelde de volgende uitleg voor : >> for non Unicode programs is Greek. AT> In Windows? In control panel and that is likely the only way to do it Unless you want to use a Greek email program. I remember when I was traveling around in the past BAT didn't exist) that languages always gave problems especially if contradicting hexadecimal codes are present... I dodnot know how many times systems were messed up by a German putting German programs in, as it really could mess up Thai if you had that as well... One of the Diveschools in Phuket has a Japanese language setup for japanese only -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters: Ξηροστερνι Βαμος
Saturday, April 25, 2009, 11:21:59 PM, you wrote: t> Hello Costas Papadopoulos t> Saturday, April 25, 2009, 10:51:43 PM, you wrote: CP>> Hello, CP>> Saturday, April 25, 2009, 6:45:35 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): AT Do you have Greek as default language in your Windows configuration, perhaps? AT If you use Windwos at all. >>> I think he has the default language to Greek You have it probably >>> set to >>> Dutch or English. You may have the same problem with other fonts >>> unless the >>> system in ASCII is set to it... CP>> My default language is English (US), but the language that I have set CP>> for non Unicode programs is Greek. t> My defaults is set to English non unicode I have set to Thai And I assume that as I stuck greek in and it shows up (no idea what to do with email addresses) that it should work but note that if you have to swap a lot maybe another option would be better... -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
Hello A.Translator, Saturday, April 25, 2009, 7:15:07 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): > It must have to do with a "deeper" settinfgs within > Windows, but since I only want to experiment and won't use a lot of Greek in > my > addresses, I don't want to mess with the system language. During the installation of Windows I was given the option to select a language for non Unicode programs. At that point I chose Greek as that language. Doing this solved a lot of problems for me, especially where I wanted to make some input in Greek in various program dialogs. I don't recall the details now, but I do remember that I did it on the advice of George Menegakis (whom I take this opportunity to thank again) who is a member of the TBBETA mailing list, and probably also a member of TBUDL as well. If he reads this thread he may perhaps enlighten us. -- Kind regards, Costas Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
Hello A.Translator Saturday, April 25, 2009, 11:12:50 PM, you wrote: AT> tracer heeft uiteengezet op 25-4-2009 : >> I think he has the default language to Greek You have it probably >> set >> to >> Dutch or English. You may have the same problem with other fonts unless >> the >> system in ASCII is set to it... AT> I thought it might be something like that, since Costas has no problems. But I AT> just tried to set my default language (at the moment Dutch, keyboard US AT> International) and that did not help. I may not have done it right, though. (I AT> am on Vista and I see there is another settings for the system language which I AT> don't want to mess with). It remains strange to me though that the Greek is AT> fine within the e-mail itself, just not in the address book. Did you reboot the system? After changing the default language?? -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
Costas Papadopoulos stelde de volgende uitleg voor : for non Unicode programs is Greek. In Windows? -- Regards, Adriana. [ put out the rubbish if you need to reach me by e-mail ] www.spinsister.nl Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
tracer heeft ons zojuist aangekondigd : Costas system maybe enabling those 2 fonts will solve the problem... No, I have and had those to character sets (not fonts) checked. Plus maybe adding Greek also via the control panel! No, tried that as well. It must have to do with a "deeper" settinfgs within Windows, but since I only want to experiment and won't use a lot of Greek in my addresses, I don't want to mess with the system language. -- Regards, Adriana. [ put out the rubbish if you need to reach me by e-mail ] www.spinsister.nl Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
Hello, Saturday, April 25, 2009, 6:45:35 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): AT>> Do you have Greek as default language in your Windows configuration, perhaps? AT>> If you use Windwos at all. > I think he has the default language to Greek You have it probably set > to > Dutch or English. You may have the same problem with other fonts unless > the > system in ASCII is set to it... My default language is English (US), but the language that I have set for non Unicode programs is Greek. -- Kind regards, Costas Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
tracer heeft uiteengezet op 25-4-2009 : I think he has the default language to Greek You have it probably set to Dutch or English. You may have the same problem with other fonts unless the system in ASCII is set to it... I thought it might be something like that, since Costas has no problems. But I just tried to set my default language (at the moment Dutch, keyboard US International) and that did not help. I may not have done it right, though. (I am on Vista and I see there is another settings for the system language which I don't want to mess with). It remains strange to me though that the Greek is fine within the e-mail itself, just not in the address book. -- Regards, Adriana. [ put out the rubbish if you need to reach me by e-mail ] www.spinsister.nl Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
Hello A.Translator, Saturday, April 25, 2009, 6:03:26 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): > Costas Papadopoulos heeft ons zojuist aangekondigd : >> don't know if it's relevant to the problem, but I have both Greek >> ISO 8859-7 and Greek (Windows) windows-1252 enabled in Character sets, > I just noticed a tiny difference: mine says Greek windows-125*3* Sorry, it was a typo. "windows-1253" is correct, but anyway it seems that it's not the cause of the problem. -- Kind regards, Costas Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
Hello Costas Papadopoulos Saturday, April 25, 2009, 9:26:11 PM, you wrote: CP> Hello tracer, CP> Saturday, April 25, 2009, 5:10:54 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): >> Hello A.Translator >> Saturday, April 25, 2009, 5:07:59 PM, you wrote: AT>>> I can use Greek characters in the message body, but when I paste for instance AT>>> Ξηροστερνι Βαμος in my address book, the characters turn into questionmarks the AT>>> moment I hit OK to save the address. Directly after pasting they show up all AT>>> right. AT>>> Is there some setting I should change for the address book? >> I would check the fonts... CP> I don't know if it's relevant to the problem, but I have both Greek CP> ISO 8859-7 and Greek (Windows) windows-1252 enabled in Character sets, CP> and I have no problem in copy-pasting Greek characters in the address CP> book. I tried it as well and address-book will accept it BUT in using it the question-marks appear. I have quite a few fonts installed, but generating a new mesg with the name in greek gives incorrect results. Seems to me that as its working on Costas system maybe enabling those 2 fonts will solve the problem... Plus maybe adding Greek also via the control panel! -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
Hello A.Translator Saturday, April 25, 2009, 10:00:59 PM, you wrote: AT> Costas Papadopoulos stelde dit idée voor : >> I don't know if it's relevant to the problem, but I have both Greek >> ISO 8859-7 and Greek (Windows) windows-1252 enabled in Character sets, >> and I have no problem in copy-pasting Greek characters in the address >> book. AT> Very interesting, Costas. I looked again and I do have both those checked in AT> the font list. But if it works for you, it should work for me. AT> Or is the address book font ruled by some other windows settings outside of AT> TB!'s font list? AT> Do you have Greek as default language in your Windows configuration, perhaps? AT> If you use Windwos at all. I think he has the default language to Greek You have it probably set to Dutch or English. You may have the same problem with other fonts unless the system in ASCII is set to it... -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
Hi A.Translator, on Saturday, April 25, 2009, at 12:07:59[GMT +0200](which was 12:07 where I live) you wrote among others: > I can use Greek characters in the message body, but when I paste for instance > Ξηροστερνι Βαμος in my address book, the characters turn into questionmarks > the > moment I hit OK to save the address. Directly after pasting they show up all > right. > Is there some setting I should change for the address book? > I can use Greek characters in the message body, but when I paste for instance > Ξηροστερνι Βαμος in my address book, the characters turn into questionmarks > the > moment I hit OK to save the address. Directly after pasting they show up all > right. I have already written here a long time ago about this problem with Polish characters, but there has been no solution! > Is there some setting I should change for the address book? -- Best regards and a nice weekend Roland I use TheBat! v4.1.11.17 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3! Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
Costas Papadopoulos heeft ons zojuist aangekondigd : don't know if it's relevant to the problem, but I have both Greek ISO 8859-7 and Greek (Windows) windows-1252 enabled in Character sets, I just noticed a tiny difference: mine says Greek windows-125*3* -- Regards, Adriana. [ put out the rubbish if you need to reach me by e-mail ] www.spinsister.nl Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
Costas Papadopoulos stelde dit idée voor : I don't know if it's relevant to the problem, but I have both Greek ISO 8859-7 and Greek (Windows) windows-1252 enabled in Character sets, and I have no problem in copy-pasting Greek characters in the address book. Very interesting, Costas. I looked again and I do have both those checked in the font list. But if it works for you, it should work for me. Or is the address book font ruled by some other windows settings outside of TB!'s font list? Do you have Greek as default language in your Windows configuration, perhaps? If you use Windwos at all. -- Regards, Adriana. [ put out the rubbish if you need to reach me by e-mail ] www.spinsister.nl Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
On Saturday, April 25, 2009, 12:07:59, A.Translator wrote: > Is there some setting I should change for the address book? I guess it's a limitation of the address book format - looking at the file, it contains the names in ANSI encoding, so anything outside of the system codepage will be lost. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ > Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance. -- (Sam) Brown's Law Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
Hello tracer, Saturday, April 25, 2009, 5:10:54 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): > Hello A.Translator > Saturday, April 25, 2009, 5:07:59 PM, you wrote: AT>> I can use Greek characters in the message body, but when I paste for instance AT>> Ξηροστερνι Βαμος in my address book, the characters turn into questionmarks the AT>> moment I hit OK to save the address. Directly after pasting they show up all AT>> right. AT>> Is there some setting I should change for the address book? > I would check the fonts... I don't know if it's relevant to the problem, but I have both Greek ISO 8859-7 and Greek (Windows) windows-1252 enabled in Character sets, and I have no problem in copy-pasting Greek characters in the address book. -- Kind regards, Costas Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters in address book
tracer plaatste dit op zijn scherm : I would check the fonts... I have and all Greek fonts are checked. As I said: it does work in the message body, just not in the address book. -- Regards, Adriana. [ put out the rubbish if you need to reach me by e-mail ] www.spinsister.nl Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Greek characters
Hello A.Translator Saturday, April 25, 2009, 5:07:59 PM, you wrote: AT> I can use Greek characters in the message body, but when I paste for instance AT> Ξηροστερνι Βαμος in my address book, the characters turn into questionmarks the AT> moment I hit OK to save the address. Directly after pasting they show up all AT> right. AT> Is there some setting I should change for the address book? I would check the fonts... -- Best regards, tracermailto:0tra...@gmail.com Windows XP 4.1.11 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Greek characters
I can use Greek characters in the message body, but when I paste for instance Ξηροστερνι Βαμος in my address book, the characters turn into questionmarks the moment I hit OK to save the address. Directly after pasting they show up all right. Is there some setting I should change for the address book? -- Regards, Adriana. [ put out the rubbish if you need to reach me by e-mail ] www.spinsister.nl Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
