Re: Vitual Folders
On 17 April 2004, 06:11, rich gregory wrote: > The trash will not delete messages older than X days for me even > though I seem to have everything set right. :( ~~~ I couldn't see which version you're using but in TB 1.62, I need to purge the folder before the expired mail goes. (either select the folder then from the Folder menu, choose Purge+Compress; or from the Folder menu, choose Purge All Folders). HTH, -- Geoff Lane Cornwall, UK -- Using The Bat! v1.62i on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pieces of eight; pieces of eight; pieces of nine; SYSTEM HALTED parroty error Current version is 2.10.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Vitual Folders
Dear Rich, @17-Apr-2004, 01:11 -0400 (17-Apr 06:11 UK time) rich gregory [RG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: AC>> Seems to work OK, but thenI hadn't noticed a problem with the AC>> previous version. I found one trash folder in one of my AC>> accounts that hadn't been set to clear old messages, clicked AC>> the relevant boxes and exited TB. When I launched TB again, the AC>> old messages were gone. RG> That feature has NEVER worked for me on any revision of TB! I've RG> ever used. RG> I've tried several times to beg for help in this forum and had RG> plenty of replies all telling me to set my folder properties RG> just so (which I have already done). And your account properties? Unless you are set up to Compress on exit in "Options", it won't happen automatically. You'd have to purge and compress manually (or use folder maintenance) to make it happen. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.10 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Vitual Folders
Hi Adam, Friday, April 16, 2004, 7:56:15 PM, you wrote: AC> what are virtual folders, and how can I use them to enrich my life? For what it's worth, you asked the question I was hoping someone would ask, particularly of those who had been beta testing this version. I knew in theory what a virtual folder was, because of my experience with the Mail Ticker, but I wasn't clear about how I might use them. Thanks to your post and the few replies it got, I've now created one of my own -- for "reply needed" messages. Here's what I did, in case it might prove useful to you. I created the new folder and filtered for the color I've assigned to those messages to which I want to reply later. Then I chose to have it run against all folders. The part I didn't get initially was that when you choose filter and then BLOCK, you are prompted with SENDER and then a small white square out to the side. Since that wasn't what I wanted, it didn't seem too helpful. However I eventually discovered that if you click on SENDER you'll see UNDER IT the various other things you can use to filter on. In my case, I chose "colour." I then set it to the color for "reply needed" messages and that did the trick. So there is one use of the virtual folder. I'd hope others would describe how they are using this feature as I just might want to copy their example. That's the way I've learned many of the things I use in TB. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Those of us who protest find ourselves trying to explain what can be to those who can only understand what was. -- Bob Frankston Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re:: Vitual Folders
Hi Marten, Saturday, April 17, 2004, 5:05:54 PM, you wrote: MG> Do I take it, then, that this 'virtual folder' holds a MG> 'pseduo-duplicate' of a message marked in some way (colour e.g) and MG> that you can treat it as the real message and the effect is as if MG> you were doing it to the actual message? That's correct, at least as I understand it. You can group messages into the virtual folder by any filter you choose. They'll appear there, though they will remain actually stored in the folder where they resided previously, as they do when displayed in the Mail Ticker folder. -- Regards, Perry Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Vitual Folders
Hello Adam, > erm... forgive me if I seem ignorant, but what are virtual folders, > and how can I use them to enrich my life? I use VFs in different ways, one of them has been already explained by Perry Nelson. That is, to show messages pending a reply from me. I also use VFs to see some threads. I usually sort messages to Contact specific folders (i.e. messages To and From Joe Smith get sorted in the same folder). Now, there are times that a third or fourth person (initially in CC) does reply to me or Joe's message and the 'conversation' is the between 3 or 4 or even more persons. But because of sorting, the messages end up in several different folders. So, I have created a "Thread" VF looking for a certain Subject and this way I can see the whole thread no matter in which folder the messages are actually stored. If I want to see a different thread I just have to change the Subject the VF is looking for. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.01 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Vitual Folders
Hi On 17 April 2004 at 22:31 Perry Nelson said: > You can group messages into the virtual folder by any filter you > choose. One thing that seems to be missing in the filters for virtual folders is you can't filter on a string. I use POPFile to classify my mail and after it was explained what virtual folders are (thanks all those who replied) I thought I could set-up a VF for each of POPFile's buckets. When I started looking into it I realized that you can't filter on POPFile's classification header. I know I could work around this, for example assigning a colour group to each bucket and filtering on that or by using POPFile's subject modification facility. I think, however, that being able to search for a string in any of the headers or the body would be useful. -- Adam C Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Vitual Folders
Adam Clarke, [AC] wrote: AC> One thing that seems to be missing in the filters for virtual AC> folders is you can't filter on a string. I use POPFile to classify AC> my mail and after it was explained what virtual folders are AC> (thanks all those who replied) I thought I could set-up a VF for AC> each of POPFile's buckets. When I started looking into it I AC> realized that you can't filter on POPFile's classification header. In the virtual folder properties, go to the Filter tab and enable the option switch 'Use Filter'. A new set of options appear where you can filter on a string. The little tiny arrow beside each item indicates that a drop down menu is there so that you can choose from different things that would best suite your filtering. You can add as many filtering strings as you like, using AND/OR etc. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.10 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Vitual Folders
Hello Adam, > I think, however, that being able to search for a string in any of the > headers or the body would be useful. Search on "Message source". -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.01 Winamp Playing: Slim Man - Faith In Us (Smoothjazz.Com - The worlds best Smooth Jazz - Live From Monterey Bay) Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Vitual Folders
Hi On 18 April 2004 at 01:35 Peter Ouwehand said: > I just tried a VF looking for @fractalz.net in the msg source. It showed > me 16 msgs. Thanks for that. I completely misunderstood what the Message Source filter was for - I assumed it was to do with where the message originated. Thinking about it logically though, why have that if you've already got a Sender filter? -- Adam C Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Vitual Folders
Hi On 18 April 2004 at 02:46 Peter Ouwehand said: AC>> I completely misunderstood what the Message Source AC>> filter was for - I assumed it was to do with where the message AC>> originated. Thinking about it logically though, why have that if AC>> you've already got a Sender filter? > Well, you asked about VF-filtering on something in a msg (header). > At the moment, I don't understand what you mean with 'Sender filer' Sorry, that was a rhetorical question based on my (false) assumption that Message Source is where the message originated. If that was the case, it would be redundant because there is an option to filter on Sender. Your previous reply answered my query perfectly - many thanks. Thanks too to Miguel and Allie who took the trouble to reply. -- Adam C Using The Bat! v2.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Vitual Folders
Hello MAU, On Sunday, April 18, 2004, 12:25:31 AM, you wrote: M> Hello Adam, >> erm... forgive me if I seem ignorant, but what are virtual folders, >> and how can I use them to enrich my life? M> I use VFs in different ways, one of them has been already explained by M> Perry Nelson. That is, to show messages pending a reply from me. So When I understand correctly It's like the views in Lotes Notes? -- Cheers, Edgar Communicating with TB! v2.10.01, Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 There is a theory that states: "If anyone finds out what the universe is for it will disappear and be replaced by something more bazaarly inexplicable." There is another theory that states: "This has already happened" To request my public key select this url: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Vitual Folders
Hello Edgar, M>> I use VFs in different ways, one of them has been already explained by M>> Perry Nelson. That is, to show messages pending a reply from me. > > So When I understand correctly It's like the views in Lotes > Notes? I don't know, I never used Lotus Notes. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.01 Winamp Playing: Oleta Adams - Get Here (Smoothjazz.Com - The worlds best Smooth Jazz - Live From Monterey Bay) Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Vitual Folders
Hello MAU, Monday, April 19, 2004, 4:40:47 PM, you wrote: MAU> I don't know, I never used Lotus Notes. Consider yourself extremely lucky. I administer some Lotus Domino servers. Good for groupware, utter failure for e-mail. -- Leif (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Using The Bat! 2.10 RC/1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Vitual Folders
Hello Leif, MAU>> I don't know, I never used Lotus Notes. > > Consider yourself extremely lucky. No luck involved, just determination ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.10.01 Current version is 2.10.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html