[PBSS] Abyss
All. I have received confirmation of our trip to Abyss the 22nd of May. Two changes from our usual: One-we have permission to camp near the cave Two-we need to sign and send in a release _before_ we get there. TSA has a release on the website and if you are coming to Abyss but not to the May meeting you can print one, sign it and send it to me. Remember, you need to have vertical gear and be vertically competent before you get to the cave. We will need someone's rope longer than my 100 footer unless you also want to pass knots. Contact me if you're going to be there. Jacqui ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/pbss_caver.net
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5 Mouth this weekend
All, First, apologies for duplicates as I sent to both lists plus the folks who are for sure on the dig list for this weekend. Apply delete button liberally... We are on for this weekend. I was out at the cave yesterday and I would suggest you all bring clothing that can get muddy and maybe some spare stuff but it is definitely diggable. I spoke with Doctor Fields and he will make sure we have the bobcat. We are welcome to arrive Friday night. Any attendee who needs to be reminded of the gate combo let me know. The bump gates are as they were. If you are attending and are not on the following list please contact me. (I have heard from only one DIRT person. We could sure use you). Diggers: Bill Bentley Walter Feaster Kerry Lowery Charles Goldsmith bringing Ryan, Cristina, and friend Me See you this weekend! Jacqui
Re: [PBSS] 5 Mouth this weekend
I will be arriving Early Saturday morning Leaving Saturday evening... Bringing dust masks Bill - Original Message - From: J. LaRue Thomas jlrbi...@sonoratx.net To: p...@caver.net; Dirtmail dirtm...@angelo.edu Cc: Walter Feaster wdfeas...@suddenlink.net; Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net; Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org; Kerry Lowery klowe...@suddenlink.net Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 4:26 AM Subject: 5 Mouth this weekend All, First, apologies for duplicates as I sent to both lists plus the folks who are for sure on the dig list for this weekend. Apply delete button liberally... We are on for this weekend. I was out at the cave yesterday and I would suggest you all bring clothing that can get muddy and maybe some spare stuff but it is definitely diggable. I spoke with Doctor Fields and he will make sure we have the bobcat. We are welcome to arrive Friday night. Any attendee who needs to be reminded of the gate combo let me know. The bump gates are as they were. If you are attending and are not on the following list please contact me. (I have heard from only one DIRT person. We could sure use you). Diggers: Bill Bentley Walter Feaster Kerry Lowery Charles Goldsmith bringing Ryan, Cristina, and friend Me See you this weekend! Jacqui ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/pbss_caver.net
Fwd: 5 Mouth this weekend
FYI, please forward this to Ryan and your friend, am doing this via phone, am on the road today. Begin forwarded message: From: J. LaRue Thomas jlrbi...@sonoratx.net Date: April 22, 2010 5:26:56 AM CDT To: p...@caver.net, Dirtmail dirtm...@angelo.edu Cc: Walter Feaster wdfeas...@suddenlink.net, Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net , Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org, Kerry Lowery klowe...@suddenlink.net Subject: 5 Mouth this weekend All, First, apologies for duplicates as I sent to both lists plus the folks who are for sure on the dig list for this weekend. Apply delete button liberally... We are on for this weekend. I was out at the cave yesterday and I would suggest you all bring clothing that can get muddy and maybe some spare stuff but it is definitely diggable. I spoke with Doctor Fields and he will make sure we have the bobcat. We are welcome to arrive Friday night. Any attendee who needs to be reminded of the gate combo let me know. The bump gates are as they were. If you are attending and are not on the following list please contact me. (I have heard from only one DIRT person. We could sure use you). Diggers: Bill Bentley Walter Feaster Kerry Lowery Charles Goldsmith bringing Ryan, Cristina, and friend Me See you this weekend! Jacqui
Re: 5 Mouth this weekend
Jacqi, remind me of the combo please On Apr 22, 2010, at 5:26 AM, J. LaRue Thomas jlrbi...@sonoratx.net wrote: All, First, apologies for duplicates as I sent to both lists plus the folks who are for sure on the dig list for this weekend. Apply delete button liberally... We are on for this weekend. I was out at the cave yesterday and I would suggest you all bring clothing that can get muddy and maybe some spare stuff but it is definitely diggable. I spoke with Doctor Fields and he will make sure we have the bobcat. We are welcome to arrive Friday night. Any attendee who needs to be reminded of the gate combo let me know. The bump gates are as they were. If you are attending and are not on the following list please contact me. (I have heard from only one DIRT person. We could sure use you). Diggers: Bill Bentley Walter Feaster Kerry Lowery Charles Goldsmith bringing Ryan, Cristina, and friend Me See you this weekend! Jacqui
Re: [PBSS] 5 Mouth this weekend
I will be arriving Fri. night late and leaving Sat. afternoon. Hunter will be unavailable to join us this weekend. Kerry -Original Message- From: pbss-boun...@caver.net [mailto:pbss-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Bill Bentley Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:06 AM To: PBSS Mailing List Subject: Re: [PBSS] 5 Mouth this weekend I will be arriving Early Saturday morning Leaving Saturday evening... Bringing dust masks Bill - Original Message - From: J. LaRue Thomas jlrbi...@sonoratx.net To: p...@caver.net; Dirtmail dirtm...@angelo.edu Cc: Walter Feaster wdfeas...@suddenlink.net; Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net; Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org; Kerry Lowery klowe...@suddenlink.net Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 4:26 AM Subject: 5 Mouth this weekend All, First, apologies for duplicates as I sent to both lists plus the folks who are for sure on the dig list for this weekend. Apply delete button liberally... We are on for this weekend. I was out at the cave yesterday and I would suggest you all bring clothing that can get muddy and maybe some spare stuff but it is definitely diggable. I spoke with Doctor Fields and he will make sure we have the bobcat. We are welcome to arrive Friday night. Any attendee who needs to be reminded of the gate combo let me know. The bump gates are as they were. If you are attending and are not on the following list please contact me. (I have heard from only one DIRT person. We could sure use you). Diggers: Bill Bentley Walter Feaster Kerry Lowery Charles Goldsmith bringing Ryan, Cristina, and friend Me See you this weekend! Jacqui ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/pbss_caver.net ___ PBSS mailing list p...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/pbss_caver.net
Re: 5 Mouth this weekend
3588 - Original Message - From: Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org To: J. LaRue Thomas jlrbi...@sonoratx.net Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:51 AM Subject: Re: 5 Mouth this weekend Jacqi, remind me of the combo please On Apr 22, 2010, at 5:26 AM, J. LaRue Thomas jlrbi...@sonoratx.net wrote: All, First, apologies for duplicates as I sent to both lists plus the folks who are for sure on the dig list for this weekend. Apply delete button liberally... We are on for this weekend. I was out at the cave yesterday and I would suggest you all bring clothing that can get muddy and maybe some spare stuff but it is definitely diggable. I spoke with Doctor Fields and he will make sure we have the bobcat. We are welcome to arrive Friday night. Any attendee who needs to be reminded of the gate combo let me know. The bump gates are as they were. If you are attending and are not on the following list please contact me. (I have heard from only one DIRT person. We could sure use you). Diggers: Bill Bentley Walter Feaster Kerry Lowery Charles Goldsmith bringing Ryan, Cristina, and friend Me See you this weekend! Jacqui
Re: 5 Mouth this weekend
Thank you On Apr 22, 2010, at 9:40 AM, J. LaRue Thomas jlrbi...@sonoratx.net wrote: 3588 - Original Message - From: Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org To: J. LaRue Thomas jlrbi...@sonoratx.net Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:51 AM Subject: Re: 5 Mouth this weekend Jacqi, remind me of the combo please On Apr 22, 2010, at 5:26 AM, J. LaRue Thomas jlrbi...@sonoratx.net wrote: All, First, apologies for duplicates as I sent to both lists plus the folks who are for sure on the dig list for this weekend. Apply delete button liberally... We are on for this weekend. I was out at the cave yesterday and I would suggest you all bring clothing that can get muddy and maybe some spare stuff but it is definitely diggable. I spoke with Doctor Fields and he will make sure we have the bobcat. We are welcome to arrive Friday night. Any attendee who needs to be reminded of the gate combo let me know. The bump gates are as they were. If you are attending and are not on the following list please contact me. (I have heard from only one DIRT person. We could sure use you). Diggers: Bill Bentley Walter Feaster Kerry Lowery Charles Goldsmith bringing Ryan, Cristina, and friend Me See you this weekend! Jacqui
[Texascavers] Re: debate about Mexico travel safety
The Houston Chronicle released a database of 232 murders in Mexico that they claim were of citizens of the U.S.A. http://www.chron.com/databases/mexicomurders If this list is accurate, and complete ( which I doubt it is ), it seems worth pointing out that 95 percent of the victims were Hispanic. One of the 10 or so Anglos, was with a hispanic that was murdered.And one Anglo was killed in a barfight over a woman. I am not making a racist comment, but only to point out that these statistics show an Anglo is relatively safe in Mexico. I guess you could say the same statement about Asians, or Blacks or others. It only goes back 7 years, but that may be to emphasize the recent violence. The only American caver I have ever heard of having been robbed, was by a taxi driver or the transit police ( los pinches transitos ) in Mexico City back in the 80's. http://www.facebook.com/pages/x-los-que-odian-a-los-pinches-transitos-ratas-/327127326829 David Locklear caver in Fort Bend County - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] speluncean
Hi Bill, For those who might wish to look into this a little further, they might want to check out the following links: http://www.nullapoena.de/stud/explorers.html Lon Fuller’s original article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Case_of_the_Speluncean_Explorers Wiki’s synopsis of the case. http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/writing/cse.htm Peter Suber’s information on his followup with nine new opinions. I was fascinated just reading part of Fuller's original, so I think I'll run it off and read the whole thing. Who knows, the subject may really come up some time. Louise From: bmixon...@austin.rr.com To: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:30:40 -0500 Subject: [Texascavers] speluncean One of the less seen words derived from speleo, spelunk, etc. is speluncean. The OED says it is rare and quotes one instance from 1803. It is perhaps known best (if at all) for the famous article The Case of the Speluncean Explorers in the Harvard Law Review in 1949, a ficticious set of Supreme Court decisions. It was reprinted in 1998 as part of a book by Peter Suber containing nine new opinions on the same imaginary case. It is still in print. Not exactly a caving book, but interesting insights into legal theories. Probably a student of the Supreme Court in 1949 or 1998 would be able to identify which real justices are parodied in each opinion in the book.--Mixon I am walking down the street with Leonardo da Vinci. He says, It is indeed wonderful what your science has created. You must explain to me how everything works. That's when I wake up. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] a new LED headlamp
Here is a promising looking headlamp: http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/theshorelinemarket_2100_355542186 http://www.batteryjunction.com/fenix-hp15--headlamp.html That is the Fenix HP15. Fenix is also coming out with a brighter version that uses 4 AA batteries, called the HP10. http://w8p2fa.blu.livefilestore.com/y1plxMg-3elwRXPoUtoZQuLy0CgTYBg-aLk-lXAasllJNIgh8DQPv1oWipKZkFqnZROH3ZBy_BifeTDT-wPBQRHsBV0-32DTfEd/FenixHP102.jpg Here is a post by someone claiming they already bought one: http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1809245 David Locklear caver in Fort Bend county - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
