Docs in a sorry state

2011-07-11 Thread joel the ripper
Heavy user of mGSD here, love it. The practices and organization of
documentation need a good deal of help though.

I am using 3.1.7. The latest version mentioned on the blog is
currently 3.1.6. The actual latest version is 3.1.8c, which I only
found out by chancing to download a new blank copy. mGSD does not
publish a changelog, so I have no way of knowing what the differences
are between any given versions.

The main website has almost no information about mGSD. It sends me to
a separate resource for documentation, http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/MonkeyGTD,
which no longer exists, and to yet another site for the blog.

I found out through a blog post from February 2011 that the docs have
moved. So when I go to the new docs, and click on the Updating
instructions, I find that they don't work (0 tiddlers to import).

This all makes for a very unfriendly experience which limits the reach
of your good work on the software.

In summary:
- Update the links on your http://mgsd.tiddlyspot.com/ website
- Fix your upgrade instructions in the docs
- Use a standard process for every release that includes posting a
full changelog, and at the very least a blog post

Long term, please consider actually using mGSD's main website as a
convenient source of info about the software. Right now instead of
providing the information one would expect, it sends you hunting
umpteen different directions to try and glean it out of blog posts and
newsgroup topics. Reformat at least the core, basic mGSD documentation
into a normal, linear format and put it on the main mGSD website
(tiddlers are a frustrating way to read documentation). Include new
releases and a changelog on the main website. Realize that you have
essentially a functioning, finished product here and treat it that
way! :-)

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[tw] Re: Lists in tables?

2011-07-11 Thread nemo


On Jul 10, 11:22 pm, Sub subfa...@googlemail.com wrote:
 @nemo: Wow! I'm coming from MW so this is extremely useful, thanks!
 So proper line-break parsing IS possible!? Would it be possible to to
 create paragraphs as MW does?:

To be honest, I don't know.

I added it to one of my TW instances because I wanted to do a few
tricks beyond what TW tables could do (in fact, though I agree with
the 'table cells should be for singular datum' argument, I think I
originally installed because I *was* abusing it for layouts with
lists!)

Beyond that, I've barely used it, generally preferring to keep my
markup as otherwise simple and plain-text like as possible

Best bet would be to install and see what it can do :)

cheers
.../Nemo

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[tw] Re: URGENT: Who owns raemes and console.tiddlyspace.com

2011-07-11 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jul 9, 8:18 pm, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote:
 PS: @cdent or TiddlySpace admin, please check if there is a problem
 with the recipe settings.

I did some looking around and all I can tell is that, based on the
timing of the activity, that the content is being copied/manipulated
by a human, not a bot or script. So somebody is manually going around
and getting at your content, for reasons unclear.

You can inspect the public recipe for spaces just as easily as anyone
else: http://raemes.tiddlyspace.com/recipes/raemes_public

That suggests nothing special is going on.

This is a very interesting problem, I'm not sure how to resolve it. It
reflects the web at large with places like content farms copying
content from elsewhere on the web. In those situations conflicts are
resolved by contacting the representatives of the farms. In this case
we don't know who is driving the raemes space.

If the situation becomes abusive one option is for us to drop a
message into the space with contact information and block the person
from editing. I'd prefer not do that if other options are available.

It does seem like a problem we'll need to address in a more formal way
as TiddlySpace grows.

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Re: [tw] Re: URGENT: Who owns raemes and console.tiddlyspace.com

2011-07-11 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Mario

Sorry about this. I did some digging around and found the Google+
profile of the owner, and have dropped them a line. I suspect that it
was an accident,

Best wishes

Jeremy

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:00 AM, cd...@peermore.com
chris.d...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Jul 9, 8:18 pm, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote:
 PS: @cdent or TiddlySpace admin, please check if there is a problem
 with the recipe settings.

 I did some looking around and all I can tell is that, based on the
 timing of the activity, that the content is being copied/manipulated
 by a human, not a bot or script. So somebody is manually going around
 and getting at your content, for reasons unclear.

 You can inspect the public recipe for spaces just as easily as anyone
 else: http://raemes.tiddlyspace.com/recipes/raemes_public

 That suggests nothing special is going on.

 This is a very interesting problem, I'm not sure how to resolve it. It
 reflects the web at large with places like content farms copying
 content from elsewhere on the web. In those situations conflicts are
 resolved by contacting the representatives of the farms. In this case
 we don't know who is driving the raemes space.

 If the situation becomes abusive one option is for us to drop a
 message into the space with contact information and block the person
 from editing. I'd prefer not do that if other options are available.

 It does seem like a problem we'll need to address in a more formal way
 as TiddlySpace grows.

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[tw] Re: How to prevent tabs hiding behind side bar?

2011-07-11 Thread Bauwe Bijl
Hi Jero

try:
#tiddlersBar {
margin-right: 448px;
}

This is the same margin as the tiddlyspace tiddlerDisplay uses (so
the sidebarTabs have enough space)...

Bauwe

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[tw] Re: How to prevent tabs hiding behind side bar?

2011-07-11 Thread Jero
Thanks a lot, but... Where can I paste that code? What is the name of
the tiddler and the position where I insert that? Sorry for the
ignorance.

On Jul 11, 7:35 pm, Bauwe Bijl bauweb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Jero

 try:
 #tiddlersBar {
 margin-right: 448px;

 }

 This is the same margin as the tiddlyspace tiddlerDisplay uses (so
 the sidebarTabs have enough space)...

 Bauwe

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[tw] Re: URGENT: Who owns raemes and console.tiddlyspace.com

2011-07-11 Thread PMario
On 11 Jul., 12:00, cd...@peermore.com chris.d...@gmail.com wrote:
 You can inspect the public recipe for spaces just as easily as anyone
 else:http://raemes.tiddlyspace.com/recipes/raemes_public
Thx Chris for having a look.
I know, I can visit the recipe. But I don't see, if something seems to
be wrong.
thx :)

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[tw] Re: How to prevent tabs hiding behind side bar?

2011-07-11 Thread jero
I already found the place, thanks a lot.

I pasted:
#tiddlersBar { 
margin-right: 448px; 
} 
at the end of the tiddler called:
StyleSheetTiddlySpace
and it did the trick! Now the 
Thank you very much.

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[tw] Re: URGENT: Who owns raemes and console.tiddlyspace.com

2011-07-11 Thread PMario
On 11 Jul., 12:23, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Mario

 Sorry about this. I did some digging around and found the Google+
 profile of the owner, and have dropped them a line. I suspect that it
 was an accident,

 Best wishes

 Jeremy
Thx,
I did find the profile, at the raemses space and posted 2 mails
allready. No answere yet.

I normal cases I am pleased if someone uses my themes but since it
seems that my whole space was copied, I am not that happy.

I also suspect that it was an accident. Console seems to be the space,
that was created first for some experiments. raemses seems to be the
main space, since it contains standard content and a different
SiteIcon. But the user still is console, and all posts carry my
SiteIcon. Since this is me, I may be a little bit paranoid about
this :)

Thx for taking care.
mario

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[tw] Re: sliders output is different font?

2011-07-11 Thread joel
Thank you to everyone who has helped.  I have played with
the .sliderPanel values and this certainly does change the fonts in
the sliders.  However, I have been unable to sort out the problem...
instead, the I have discovered something else... it doesn't happen
when animations are turned off!  Something in the pushing animation
sequence is playing with the fonts!  Any ideas?

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[tw] Re: URGENT: Who owns raemes and console.tiddlyspace.com

2011-07-11 Thread PMario
On 11 Jul., 12:00, cd...@peermore.com chris.d...@gmail.com wrote:
If the situation becomes abusive one option is for us to drop a
message into the space with contact information and block the person
from editing. I'd prefer not do that if other options are available.
I think it was an accident. That's why it would be interesting, how it
happened. I do have an idea, but want to be sure.

 It does seem like a problem we'll need to address in a more formal way
 as TiddlySpace grows.
Since TiddlySpace has no terms of use or terms of service yet,
actions could be quite difficult. Since my site has some licensing
info with it, I am pretty sure I can act and I will, if it is needed.

I think, I'll post in TiddlyWeb group about this.

kind regards
mario

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[tw] Re: How to prevent tabs hiding behind side bar?

2011-07-11 Thread PMario
On 11 Jul., 14:09, jero jeronimo.min...@gmail.com wrote:
 at the end of the tiddler called:
 StyleSheetTiddlySpace
 and it did the trick! Now the
 Thank you very much.
This works but StyleSheetTiddlySpace shouldn't be edited, since you
loose automatic update, if you copy/clone it to your space.

Just use your StyleSheet tiddler, because it is meant to be used for
StyleSheet CSS tweaking.

it should look like this:

/*{{{*/
StyleSheetTiddlySpace

#tiddlersBar {
margin-right: 448px;
}
/*}}}*/

The /*...*/ stuff is only there to get some nicer display. And if you
place your changes after StyleSheetTiddlySpace they will overwrite
default settings

-m

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[tw] Re: URGENT: Who owns raemes and console.tiddlyspace.com

2011-07-11 Thread passingby
There is a tiddler in which Hindi language is used in Roman script. It talks 
about Aloo-prantha (Indian bread with potato filling), which is something 
which I love!
I think the owner of the space is new to tiddlyspace/tiddlywiki world and 
has done this inadvertently. I hope he reads this and solves this. 

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[tw] How to restore a TiddlySpace to its original blank slate state?

2011-07-11 Thread Crys Foab
I really messed up with my TiddlySpace spaces.

I'd like to restore them to their original state, exactly as they
would be if I created them right now.

How can I do this?

BTW, is there a way to destroy/permanently remove a space?

Regards,

CF

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[tw] MPTW features in TiddlySpace?

2011-07-11 Thread Crys Foab
Hi Mario,

I'm quite new here and not sure what I have to do
with the two tiddlyspace urls you gave in this post:
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/msg/975e38d53684d5da

Do I have to import every single tiddler from each of them?
Only a few of them? To private or to public? In what order?

Will this give me full MPTW functionnality (TagglyTagging, NewHere
Button, sorting, columns…) or just a few of these features?

By the way, your theme looks gorgeous!

Thanks in advance for your help,

CF

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[tw] I get all the time from tiddlytools.org Error getting list of tiddlers, click Cancel to try again

2011-07-11 Thread rro...@renatoroque.com
I am trying to import from tiddlytools.org and I get all the time

Error getting list of tiddlers, click Cancel to try again

Do you know if there is a problem?

Thanks

Renato

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[tw] Re: I get all the time from tiddlytools.org Error getting list of tiddlers, click Cancel to try again

2011-07-11 Thread Eric Shulman
 I am trying to import from tiddlytools.org and I get all the time
 Error getting list of tiddlers, click Cancel to try again
 Do you know if there is a problem?

http://www.TiddlyTools.com is loading just fine.

However, the URL you typed above says .org, which is not the correct
domain, so of course, there are no tiddlers to retrieve from that
location.  In addition, there have been some recently reported
problems related to cross-domain security when importing using
FireFox5.  Please provide more details about your setup: what OS,
browser, and TiddlyWiki versions are you using?  Did it work
previously?  Have you recently upgraded anything?  Are you working
locally (file://) or remotely (http://)?  The more information you
provide, the more likely someone will be able to help.

-e

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[tw] Re: How to restore a TiddlySpace to its original blank slate state?

2011-07-11 Thread PMario
On 11 Jul., 15:01, Crys Foab crys.f...@gmail.com wrote:
 I really messed up with my TiddlySpace spaces.

 I'd like to restore them to their original state, exactly as they
 would be if I created them right now.
I do have some sandbox spaces, that need some cleaning from time to
time.

Assuming that you have firebug or something similar at your hands.

Go to the backstage area.
Select the batch tab
Select the Public tab within batch
Mark all tiddlers
Make them private .. nobody sees your tiddlers anymore

Copy the Console Script from deleted space [1] into the console:
command editor
!!! Check, if you are at the right space !!!
!!! Check the URL again !!!
Execute the script

It whipes all your private stuff!

Reload the space

It is brand new now


 BTW, is there a way to destroy/permanently remove a space?
Have a look at the documentation at deleted space.

[1] http://deleted.tiddlyspace.com/



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[tw] Re: How to restore a TiddlySpace to its original blank slate state?

2011-07-11 Thread PMario
On 11 Jul., 19:16, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote:
 It whipes all your private stuff!
should be:
It whipes private stuff from this space :)

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[tw] Re: URGENT: Who owns raemes and console.tiddlyspace.com

2011-07-11 Thread PMario
Seems that Jeremy could get in touch with the owner.
So should be fixed soon.
thx
-m

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[tw] Re: TWT-Treeview, visibility of Tags and Creation Date

2011-07-11 Thread TW-User
 div class='subtitle'span macro='view modifier link'/span, span
 macro='view modified date'/span (span macro='message
 views.wikified.createdPrompt'/span span macro='view created
 date'/span)/div
 div class='tagging' macro='tagging'/div
 div class='tagged' macro='tags'/div

Thank you very much, now I can see the tags and the creation date

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[tw] Re: I get all the time from tiddlytools.org Error getting list of tiddlers, click Cancel to try again

2011-07-11 Thread rro...@renatoroque.com
Thanks

You are right it should be www.tiddlytools.com

But the message is there with both Interenet Explorer 8 and FF 5.0

It worked not long ago. I am working localy with Windows 7 / 64 bits

Regards

Renato

On Jul 11, 5:11 pm, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote:
  I am trying to import from tiddlytools.org and I get all the time
  Error getting list of tiddlers, click Cancel to try again
  Do you know if there is a problem?

 http://www.TiddlyTools.comis loading just fine.

 However, the URL you typed above says .org, which is not the correct
 domain, so of course, there are no tiddlers to retrieve from that
 location.  In addition, there have been some recently reported
 problems related to cross-domain security when importing using
 FireFox5.  Please provide more details about your setup: what OS,
 browser, and TiddlyWiki versions are you using?  Did it work
 previously?  Have you recently upgraded anything?  Are you working
 locally (file://) or remotely (http://)?  The more information you
 provide, the more likely someone will be able to help.

 -e

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[tw] Re: MPTW features in TiddlySpace?

2011-07-11 Thread Crys Foab
Hi Crys Foab,

If you have a TiddlySpace account, just:
— go to the backstage area.
— Click the left menue. space:yourName
— Go to the Include tab and
— Include neui-em space.
— reload

It should activate the neui-em theme.
You can start changing the configuration to your needs.

I made a short intro video [1], which explain some configuration
possibilities.
(The video is a little bit outdated but the concept is still the same.
GettingStarted tiddler is up to date.)

:: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTaovgc4V5w

If you mess up something, just rename or delete your tiddler, then
my included default tiddler will take over again.

 Do I have to import every single tiddler from each of them? Only a few
 of them? To private or to public? In what order?

Just include the neui-em space, like described above. If some used
plugins need some fixing, you'll get the updates directly form this
space.

 Private/Public
I set the chkPrivateMode: variable to true. See SystemSettings
tiddler.
This means, that every new tiddler is private by default.

If you want, that everyone can see them, you need to make them public.
click, the pink cycles labeled private and say make public.
Everyone can see them now. click again to make private ...

If you want to have new tiddlers public by default change
SystemSettings … chkPrivateMode: false

If you include a space like neui-em you include the public stuff
from this space. If I change something there, you get an automatic
update. If you change my tiddlers, they are cloned/saved to your
space and you need to take care of them.

(Public ... everyone sees them)
(Private .. only you can see them. Everyone else sees neui-em public
stuff with the same name)

 Will this give me full MPTW functionnality (TagglyTagging, NewHere
 Button, sorting, columns…) or just a few of these features?

There is a new thread in google groups. I created a newTagged
command, which can be imported into TS. But there isn't an icon yet. I
do have an idea about an icon, so it should be pretty fast if you need
it :)

http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlyweb/browse_thread/thread/7b89594304c06099

 MPTW:
I included some stuff that works with tagging and theming:
TagglyTagging, QuickOpenTagPlugin, HideWhenPlugin, RenameTagsPlugin,
SelectThemePluginMP (modified),

 sorting, columns ?
I am not sure about this. Could you describe it a little bit closer?

The second link in the original post is about  Tobi Beer's tagsearch
plugin

If you also include neui-tagsearch space, you get some
adjustments and a nice tagSearch icon that works together with
neui-em theme.

http://neui-tagsearch.tiddlyspace.com/

 By the way, your theme looks gorgeous!
thx.

have fun!
Mario

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[tw] Re: MPTW features in TiddlySpace?

2011-07-11 Thread PMario
Crys,
Welcome to the club :)
If I can help. Just post

-m

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