Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 GPS Time vs. UTC

2014-11-27 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

If it re-locks the GPS, that suggests they are changing the time at the module 
level rather than doing the math in the CPU. The 5 minute re-lock is pretty 
typical of the GPS rebooting.

The cell phone guys never use UTC time at the hardware level. All the CDMA cell 
sites are synchronized to GPS time. Because of this, being able to switch the 
time base is likely to be considered a bug by people like Lucent. They may have 
the switch over locked out in multiple ways. 

Bob

> On Nov 27, 2014, at 11:33 AM, Mitchell Janoff  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the reply. 
> 
> I tried all the ports, the only port that allows me to communicate at all 
> with the unit is the J8 Diagnostic port on Ref 0. I also noticed that when I 
> send the command to change to UTC time, the units go into FAULT mode and it 
> takes about 5 minutes to relock the GPS.  
> 
> Mitch.
> 
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> Hi
> 
> Which port are you putting the commands into? 
> 
> The box *may* respond to some things on the Diag port that it does not 
> respond to on the PPS port. I have not investigated this, but it is a 
> possibility. 
> 
> Bob
> 
>> On Nov 26, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Mitchell Janoff  wrote:
>> 
>> I now have my KS-24361 operating and I've successfully communicated via 
>> RS232 (using the hack described previously) with both SatStat and GPSCon 
>> using Win7. The time I'm getting out of the unit is the GPS time (+16 
>> seconds). I've tried to convert the time to UTC by first changing the mode 
>> from continuous output to a manual time update(:PTIM:TCOD:CONT 0), and then 
>> changing the time to UTC from GPS using the :PTIM:UTC 1 command. Neither of 
>> these commands seem to work with this unit. 
>> 
>> Has anyone experienced this and did you come up with a solution?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Mitch.
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 GPS Time vs. UTC

2014-11-27 Thread Mitchell Janoff
Thanks for the reply. 

I tried all the ports, the only port that allows me to communicate at all with 
the unit is the J8 Diagnostic port on Ref 0. I also noticed that when I send 
the command to change to UTC time, the units go into FAULT mode and it takes 
about 5 minutes to relock the GPS.  

Mitch.

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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 21:13:16 -0600
From: Bob Camp 
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Hi

Which port are you putting the commands into? 

The box *may* respond to some things on the Diag port that it does not respond 
to on the PPS port. I have not investigated this, but it is a possibility. 

Bob

> On Nov 26, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Mitchell Janoff  wrote:
> 
> I now have my KS-24361 operating and I've successfully communicated via RS232 
> (using the hack described previously) with both SatStat and GPSCon using 
> Win7. The time I'm getting out of the unit is the GPS time (+16 seconds). 
> I've tried to convert the time to UTC by first changing the mode from 
> continuous output to a manual time update(:PTIM:TCOD:CONT 0), and then 
> changing the time to UTC from GPS using the :PTIM:UTC 1 command. Neither of 
> these commands seem to work with this unit. 
> 
> Has anyone experienced this and did you come up with a solution?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Mitch.
> 
>

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Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 GPS Time vs. UTC

2014-11-26 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

Which port are you putting the commands into? 

The box *may* respond to some things on the Diag port that it does not respond 
to on the PPS port. I have not investigated this, but it is a possibility. 

Bob

> On Nov 26, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Mitchell Janoff  wrote:
> 
> I now have my KS-24361 operating and I've successfully communicated via RS232 
> (using the hack described previously) with both SatStat and GPSCon using 
> Win7. The time I'm getting out of the unit is the GPS time (+16 seconds). 
> I've tried to convert the time to UTC by first changing the mode from 
> continuous output to a manual time update(:PTIM:TCOD:CONT 0), and then 
> changing the time to UTC from GPS using the :PTIM:UTC 1 command. Neither of 
> these commands seem to work with this unit. 
> 
> Has anyone experienced this and did you come up with a solution?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Mitch.
> 
> 
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[time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 GPS Time vs. UTC

2014-11-26 Thread Mitchell Janoff
I now have my KS-24361 operating and I've successfully communicated via RS232 
(using the hack described previously) with both SatStat and GPSCon using Win7. 
The time I'm getting out of the unit is the GPS time (+16 seconds). I've tried 
to convert the time to UTC by first changing the mode from continuous output to 
a manual time update(:PTIM:TCOD:CONT 0), and then changing the time to UTC from 
GPS using the :PTIM:UTC 1 command. Neither of these commands seem to work with 
this unit. 

Has anyone experienced this and did you come up with a solution?

Thanks.

Mitch.


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