Re: [Toolserver-l] Toolserver wiki

[Patricia Pintilie]

I wish I could help, anyway that I may ?
On Oct 13, 2013 6:34 AM, "Federico Leva (Nemo)"  wrote:

> I don't see a conclusion to this thread, did the discussion move
> elsewhere? Of course the whole wiki has to be archived.
> There are only 323 content pages (an apt number, considering bug 323!) and
> 1500 pages in total, so importing them all on a Toolserver:
> pseudo-namespace on wikitech is trivial (possibly even Special:Import may
> suffice); it can be made into an actual namespace by any shell user.
> Ideally, however, this would be done by a shell user importing logs and
> files too.
>
> Nemo
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Patricia Pintilie

[Patricia Pintilie]

Have you fixed the cron and nodes problems?
On May 26, 2013 4:56 AM, "seth"  wrote:

> Hi!
>
> On 24.05.2013 21:37, Patricia Pintilie wrote:
> > On May 24, 2013 4:37 AM, seth wrote:
> >> The right answer should have been 4. (So she must be a wit^Wbot.) *duck*
> >
> > I responded with a 4 to jeremy seth. Y are u being such a jerk to me u
> > don't know me bro, take a chill pill
>
> Sorry, I apparently didn't make clear enough that my post was meant
> ironically. It was meant to be a joke and not an offence.
>
> ...and I guess, there's no need to continue this on the list.
>
> bye
> seth
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Patricia Pintilie

[Patricia Pintilie]

You would think if I  wrote on the whole mailing list there is obviously a
reason for it
On May 26, 2013 3:44 AM, "K. Peachey"  wrote:

> On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 5:37 AM, Patricia Pintilie
>  wrote:
> > I responded with a 4 to jeremy seth. Y are u being such a jerk to me u
> don't
> > know me bro, take a chill pill
>
>
> Because your posting out of context, random and ill-relevant replies
> across the whole mailing list?
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Patricia Pintilie

[Patricia Pintilie]

I responded with a 4 to jeremy seth. Y are u being such a jerk to me u
don't know me bro, take a chill pill
On May 24, 2013 4:37 AM, "seth"  wrote:

> Hi!
>
> 2013-05-23 20:12, Patricia Pintilie wrote:
>
>> 2013-05-23 09:49, Hersfold Wikipedia  wrote:
>>
>>> 2013-23-05 10:34, Daniel Schwen wrote:
>>>
>>>> 2013-23-05 08:07, Jeremy Baron  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 2013-05-23 07:30, Patricia Pintilie  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> General chat • Re: Navigating Multiboot GRUB2 menu entries
>>>>>> successfully. http://forum.porteus.org/**
>>>>>> viewtopic.php?t=2195&p=15042#**p15042<http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?t=2195&p=15042#p15042>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Patricia,
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you human? Please send me the square root of 16.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At this point it doesn't even matter anymore. None of her posts so far
>>>> made any sense or contributed in a meaningful way. Please block.
>>>> 2013-05-23 08:07, Jeremy Baron  wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> +1. Only two of her emails I can pull up on my phone have been even
>>> potentially constructive; all of the more recent ones are nonsense or
>>> outright spam.
>>>
>>
>> I am not spam and a beautiful human being. Altho my replied might not make
>> sense to some I am on many email lists so pardon if u are not
>> understanding
>> me, it maybe that information is for the ones that know what to do with
>> the
>> information. Its Hard to block a smooth operator such as myself. Keep up
>> the good corrections I Pray all is well with my Wikiedians.
>> Best Regards-MILASTARX-TS
>>
>
> The right answer should have been 4. (So she must be a wit^Wbot.) *duck*
>
> bye
> seth
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Toolserver db outperformed by labs

[Patricia Pintilie]

The problem starts at the servers abilities to categorize each discrepancy.
If it cant it dumps without hesitating. Overloading the server is one thing
it wont  do to itself on both negative and positive sides. When server
programs start having issues their discrepancies affect the servers log
which affects the servers progress in its own job.  If u have one server
give it 2 input and output nodes ONLY otherwise  all ur programs will back
the server db up.
On May 23, 2013 5:40 PM, "Platonides"  wrote:

> Today^W Yesterday, I was asked about some file numbers, which involved
> subcategory traversing, which is an "inefficient" problem. It seemed a
> good problem for comparing toolserver and labs. And toolserver db sucks:
>
> willow: 31m5.157s (user 0m4.038s)
> labs: 0m4.271s (user 2.488)
>
> Toolserver was *436 times slower*.
>
> Surely, the labs server is better (in hardware) than the one in TS. I
> don't know how many scripts were hitting the TS db, while the labs one
> would be almost-idle. Still, it seems a really big gap. Do we have
> something wrongly configured? Did mariadb somehow massively improve vs
> mysql? Are some parameters too small? Is it just a problem that the
> mysql servers are underprovisioned of ram?
>
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Patricia Pintilie

[Patricia Pintilie]

I am not spam and a beautiful human being. Altho my replied might not make
sense to some I am on many email lists so pardon if u are not understanding
me, it maybe that information is for the ones that know what to do with the
information. Its Hard to block a smooth operator such as myself. Keep up
the good corrections I Pray all is well with my Wikiedians.
Best Regards-MILASTARX-TS
On May 23, 2013 9:49 AM, "Hersfold Wikipedia" 
wrote:

> +1. Only two of her emails I can pull up on my phone have been even
> potentially constructive; all of the more recent ones are nonsense or
> outright spam.
>
> 
> User:Hersfold
> hersfoldw...@gmail.com
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> From: Daniel Schwen
> Sent: 5/23/2013 10:34
> To: Wikimedia Toolserver
> Subject: Re: [Toolserver-l] Patricia Pintilie 
> At this point it doesn't even matter anymore. None of her posts so far
> made any sense or contributed in a meaningful way. Please block.
>
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Jeremy Baron 
> wrote:
> > On May 23, 2013 7:30 AM, "Patricia Pintilie" 
> wrote:
> >> General chat • Re: Navigating Multiboot GRUB2 menu entries
> successfully. http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?t=2195&p=15042#p15042
> >
> > Hi Patricia,
> >
> > Are you human? Please send me the square root of 16.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -Jeremy
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Encoding issue using SGE

[Patricia Pintilie]

Your welcome if I had any part in helping you out.
On May 23, 2013 2:31 PM, "Hercule Hercule" 
wrote:

> The addition of console_encoding = 'utf-8' in my user-config.py solved
> the issue. Thanks everybody for your help
>
>
> 2013/5/23 Hercule Hercule 
>
>> I added
>> export LANG
>> LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8
>> in the script, but it still make incorrect comments.
>>
>> I add enclosed the sh file, if it can help
>>
>>
>> 2013/5/23 Lars Aronsson 
>>
>>> On 05/23/2013 02:40 PM, Hercule Hercule wrote:
>>>
 I already tried to add

 export LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 but I then have an alert : LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 is
 not an identifier
 LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 at the top of the shell don't change anything.

>>>
>>> The syntax "export A=B" is from bash, a common login shell.
>>> However, most scripts are traditionally written in #!/bin/sh
>>> where the syntax requires "export A" and "A=B" to be written
>>> as two separate statements.
>>>
>>> (Knowledge from the 1980s.)
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Status of the toolserver

[Patricia Pintilie]

General chat • Re: Navigating Multiboot GRUB2 menu entries successfully.
http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?t=2195&p=15042#p15042
On May 20, 2013 5:44 PM, "DaB."  wrote:

> Hello all,
> At Tuesday 21 May 2013 00:42:31 DaB. wrote:
> >   Is SVN supposed to be down still?
>
> yes, there is a minor problem with ngnix I haven’t time to fix yet. Also
> there
> is a harmless error-message about quota at login.
> I will try to fix the SVN-problem tomorrow.
>
> Sincerely,
> DaB.
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Re: [Toolserver-l] SGE fail to run any of my tasks, they error out as "cgroup change of group failed"

[Patricia Pintilie]

General chat • Re: Navigating Multiboot GRUB2 menu entries successfully.
http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?t=2195&p=15042#p15042
On May 22, 2013 12:02 PM, "Dr. Trigon"  wrote:

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Re: [Toolserver-l] Introducing the new toolserver admin

[Patricia Pintilie]

General chat • Re: Navigating Multiboot GRUB2 menu entries successfully.
http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?t=2195&p=15042#p15042
On May 22, 2013 12:50 PM, "Silke Meyer"  wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> Let me introduce Alexander Mette, the new toolserver admin who came to
> support DaB. and Nosy! Welcome! As soon as he is a bit more in touch
> with the toolserver, he would like to meet you in an office hour.
> (Will be announced separately.)
> You can reach him via e-mail as alexander.me...@wikimedia.de and on
> IRC as amette.
>
> Cheers,
> Silke
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Re: [Toolserver-l] TS web broken

[Patricia Pintilie]

General chat • Re: Navigating Multiboot GRUB2 menu entries successfully.
http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?t=2195&p=15042#p15042
On May 23, 2013 2:14 AM, "Dr. Trigon"  wrote:

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> Luckily those externals are important just for 1 script (catimages.py)
> at the moment, so if you checkout the code except those 2 externals,
> you should be fine - don't worry! ;)
>
> In fact I was thinking about doing a svnsync from
>
> https://svn.toolserver.org/svnroot/drtrigon
>
> to sf.net. DaB, Nosy, ... could you give me a short hint or feadback
> wheather this would be good idea? This is NOT a step to migrate from
> TS to labs, BUT during the last few weeks and months SVN was not THAT
> reliable as I'd like to see (and may be other developers too)... I
> assume this is related to the "ha-nodes"... but that's just a guess.
>
> Thanks and Greetings
> DrTrigon
>
>
> On 23.05.2013 04:34, Hazard-SJ wrote:
> > Yes, and SVN has some externals for Pywikibot (trunk version). It's
> > been down for a while.
> >
> >
> > Hazard-SJ
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> *From:* Johannes Kroll 
> > *To:* Wikimedia Toolserver 
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 22, 2013 2:49 AM *Subject:* Re:
> > [Toolserver-l] TS web broken
> >
> > On Tue, 21 May 2013 22:13:10 +0200 (CEST) Marlen Caemmerer
> >  > > wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> fortunatelly I was able to fix web very quick. With thanks to DaB
> >> and
> > Merlissimo we just got SGE back too and it seems everything is
> > running as before.
> >>
> >> Cheers Marlen/nosy
> >
> > What about http://svn.toolserver.org/?
> > 
> >
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Encoding issue using SGE

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General chat • Re: Navigating Multiboot GRUB2 menu entries successfully.
http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?t=2195&p=15042#p15042
On May 23, 2013 3:12 AM, "Merlijn van Deen"  wrote:

> Hi Hercule,
>
> On 23 May 2013 00:38, Hercule Hercule  wrote:
> > python /home/hercule/template.py "Lien" "Lien/Conversion automatique"
> > -cat:"Page utilisant Lien pour un article existant" -summary:"[Bot] :
> > transformation de liens avec le modèle {{Lien}} en lien interne, suite à
> la
> > création de l'article correspondant" -assubst -pt:0 -always
> > mutt -s "Fin de LienFr" hercule < /home/hercule/logs/LienFr.log
>
>
> If you have saved the file in the utf-8 encoding (which the edit
> summary suggests), try using (on one line)
>
> LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 python /home/hercule/template.py ...
>
> or (on two lines)
> export LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
> python /home/hercule/template.py ...
>
> Basically, you have to tell pywikipedia which encoding you have used
> for the shell arguments - in your case UTF-8. Otherwise it will use
> latin-1 as default, which results in the mojibake you saw.
>
> Merlijn
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Running Pywikipedia (rewrite) bots on Tools Labs

[Patricia Pintilie]

Hello, Yes Please send my manual. asap.thanks.
On May 16, 2013 1:15 PM, "Russell Blau"  wrote:

> For any users interested in migrating Pywikipedia-based bots from the
> Toolserver to the new Labs platform, or just interested in using Labs to
> run bots, I've written a page[1] describing the steps I took to get my
> bots running under the rewrite branch.
>
> If someone who uses trunk has gotten their bot(s) running on Labs, feel
> free to add instructions for that process, too.
>
> [1]
>
> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Russell_Blau/Using_pywikibot_on_Labs
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Status of the toolserver

[Patricia Pintilie]

Sure
On May 14, 2013 2:53 PM, "Marc A. Pelletier"  wrote:

> On 05/13/2013 05:01 PM, DaB. wrote:
> > The problem is that both ha-nodes run Solaris and all roots are no
> Solaris-
> > experts what makes it hard for us to find errors or in this case
> impossible.
>
> There is a former colleague or mine with whom I've kept contact that is
> a serious high-grade guru with Solaris.  Would you like me to put him in
> contact with you guys?  Maybe he can give a hand or lend expertise?
>
> -- Marc
>
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Status of the toolserver

[Patricia Pintilie]

Linux is your best bet. Also Errors 404 & 401 are non responsive. I can
connect to all servers but on 2 of them msg/nickserver/password is the 401
& 404 error stub. See if this information helps you if not write me back
Best Regards [MILASTARX]:[TS]
On May 13, 2013 6:02 PM, "DaB."  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> as you have surely noticed the toolserver is even more unstable and
> unreliable
> than normal at the moment. The reason is that our ha-nodes are not longer
> working as intended and neither Nosy nor I are able to fix this.
>
> A quick word was ha-nodes are: The "ha" stands for "high available" and we
> have 2 servers for that. Some services at the toolserver are so important
> that
> a downtime is unacceptable (like /home, LDAP or the DNS) and for this
> reasons
> these services life at the ha-nodes. If one server goes down or crashes
> then
> the other can continue to operate all services with no or little
> interruption
> time and without working by a root. That worked great as long as River was
> here and not-so-good in the last months, but now it is totally broken.
> The problem is that both ha-nodes run Solaris and all roots are no Solaris-
> experts what makes it hard for us to find errors or in this case
> impossible. We
> have setup a very ugly workaround, but it is not stable and so the
> downtime of
> important services cause downtime for the hole toolserver – and more work
> for
> the roots.
>
> We can only think of one solution: Replacing the solaris at the ha-nodes
> with
> linux. But this can not start before Friday and it will take some time
> until
> everything is moved over. It will also cause some hours of complete
> downtime
> while /home is copied (we will separately announce this). In best case when
> Whitsun is over everything will be working again, in worst case it will
> need 2
> weeks (I will be away between 21 and 26 for the general meeting of WMDE).
> The repairing of the ha-nodes has top priority, so everything else will be
> delayed (linux-update, database-reimports, account-creation (for VERY
> important ones send me a mail), etc.).
>
> If you have questions, please send them to the ML.
>
> Sincerely,
> DaB.
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Toolserver limitation to come?

[Patricia Pintilie]

On May 2, 2013 3:08 AM, "Marlen Caemmerer" 
wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
>
>
> On Wed, 1 May 2013, Ryan Lane wrote:
>
>>
>> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Tim Landscheidt wrote:
>>
>>> | [...]
>>>
>>> There were never answers to this, so I bring it up here
>>> again:
>>>
>>> 1. How were "almost /all/ of the problems the TS have had
>>>with replication" "caused by that redundancy and trying
>>>to keep it synced"?
>
>Ryan, repeaters are from the root of a program inwhich start the initial
setup.
>
> Thanks for this question :) - I also want to know.
> From my perspective it does not look like this and even the data
inconsistencies appear when we have no commons copy on a mysql instance.
> And: DaB experimented with federated tables for commons too and we
decided to not do this since it does not perform from the start.
> Probably nowadays when I planned something new in this area (which does
not seem to make sense for TS) I'd really give Galera a try -
http://codership.com/content/using-galera-cluster
>
>
>>>
>>> 2. What limitation will the Toolserver have at some point?
>>>
>>>
>> As to #2: From what I've been told this has to do with future sharding
>> plans for the databases, and due to a change in how we'll be doing
>> replication. Of course, I've heard this in passing. For answers to both
of
>> these questions you'll need to talk to binasher and/or notpeter on IRC,
as
>> they are the ones doing the database work.
>
>
>
> Thanks for telling...
>
> Cheers
> Marlen/nosy
>
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Toolserver limitation to come?

[Patricia Pintilie]

Remove wiki offline
Do not allow diffrent languages on same feeds
Delete unused accounts
Delete dangerous information
Acknowledge that the sole creator could be anyone, and expects more order
in a hectic database with too much junk being reedited over and over.
Once its written correctly do not allow repeaters to do over incorrectly
work that was ligit.
Figure out how many angles are approaching the database.
This toolserver can cause havoc or can contain order depends on proper
knowledge used in operating it.
Thanks
MILASTAR.TS.RO
On May 1, 2013 9:17 PM, "Patricia Pintilie" 
wrote:

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> On May 1, 2013 8:49 PM, "Ryan Lane"  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Tim Landscheidt 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> at the office hour yesterday
>>> (cf.
>>> http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23wikimedia-office/20130430.txt):
>>>
>>> | [...]
>>> |  multichill: The long story short; replicating
>>> | databases is happening soon (Within the month)
>>> | Replicating multiple copies of commons and wikidata
>>> | isn't going to happen that way; it needs to be built
>>> | into application logic or using federated tables.
>>> | Almost /all/ of the problems the TS have had with
>>> | replication were caused by that redundancy and
>>> | trying to keep it synced.
>>> |  Coren: So you're basically saying Toollabs is
>>> |  useless for me
>>> |  {{ref needed}}
>>> |  We're all more than happy to help you (and any other
>>> | maintainer) with adapting your tools to work in that
>>> | setup.
>>> |  Coren: In that case, Tools will not be able to
>>> |   replace Toolserver.
>>> |  what are federated tables btw?
>>> |  AFAIK toolserver will also have this limitation
>>> | at some point
>>> |  Ryan_Lane: What do you mean?
>>> | [...]
>>>
>>> There were never answers to this, so I bring it up here
>>> again:
>>>
>>> 1. How were "almost /all/ of the problems the TS have had
>>>with replication" "caused by that redundancy and trying
>>>to keep it synced"?
>>>
>>> 2. What limitation will the Toolserver have at some point?
>>>
>>>
>> As to #2: From what I've been told this has to do with future sharding
>> plans for the databases, and due to a change in how we'll be doing
>> replication. Of course, I've heard this in passing. For answers to both of
>> these questions you'll need to talk to binasher and/or notpeter on IRC, as
>> they are the ones doing the database work.
>>
>> - Ryan
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Toolserver limitation to come?

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On May 1, 2013 8:49 PM, "Ryan Lane"  wrote:

> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Tim Landscheidt 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> at the office hour yesterday
>> (cf.
>> http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23wikimedia-office/20130430.txt):
>>
>> | [...]
>> |  multichill: The long story short; replicating
>> | databases is happening soon (Within the month)
>> | Replicating multiple copies of commons and wikidata
>> | isn't going to happen that way; it needs to be built
>> | into application logic or using federated tables.
>> | Almost /all/ of the problems the TS have had with
>> | replication were caused by that redundancy and
>> | trying to keep it synced.
>> |  Coren: So you're basically saying Toollabs is
>> |  useless for me
>> |  {{ref needed}}
>> |  We're all more than happy to help you (and any other
>> | maintainer) with adapting your tools to work in that
>> | setup.
>> |  Coren: In that case, Tools will not be able to
>> |   replace Toolserver.
>> |  what are federated tables btw?
>> |  AFAIK toolserver will also have this limitation
>> | at some point
>> |  Ryan_Lane: What do you mean?
>> | [...]
>>
>> There were never answers to this, so I bring it up here
>> again:
>>
>> 1. How were "almost /all/ of the problems the TS have had
>>with replication" "caused by that redundancy and trying
>>to keep it synced"?
>>
>> 2. What limitation will the Toolserver have at some point?
>>
>>
> As to #2: From what I've been told this has to do with future sharding
> plans for the databases, and due to a change in how we'll be doing
> replication. Of course, I've heard this in passing. For answers to both of
> these questions you'll need to talk to binasher and/or notpeter on IRC, as
> they are the ones doing the database work.
>
> - Ryan
>
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Re: [Toolserver-l] I can't login any more

[Patricia Pintilie]

I can't either its almost how it gets stuck
On Apr 24, 2013 10:38 AM, "Platonides"  wrote:

> On 24/04/13 16:25, Alex Brollo wrote:
> > Thanks - really I felt that I should get the renew notice but I
> > obviously missed/deleted the mail; I've been confused from some
> > toolserver stop-and-go notices, and from some messages by other user,
> > with login troubles.
> >
> > Yes, you are true: I found the notice "Your account will expire
> > tomorrow" into the group of deleted mails I apologyze for  your
> > wasted time.
> >
> > Me stupid.
> >
> > Alex
>
> Being busy is different than being stupid. Plus this was easy to
> determine, don't worry.
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Wikidata tables

[Patricia Pintilie]

Waterfall the Anamorphic Development.
On Apr 19, 2013 4:14 AM, "Patricia Pintilie" 
wrote:

> Ok so how about we recocnize what the overal goal is first . Then
> establish the point that its trying to convay. Only then can we meet in the
> middle and set a plan in motion. I can only assist when a plan of action is
> clear with a definite plan without it im lost on where to begin. It seems
> as if im doing my natural instinct research then I get mail from the people
> im reading about... Very interesting this is because im left to think my
> mind is linked to the problems at hand. TS is my old signature, my server
> os will pull up my IP searches. Which leads me to believe this is why I am
> always being brought up in the middle of these outstanding conversations
> you guys are having lol. Please send detailed instructions as to how I can
> help,there should be a file known as Mila.eu also known as ro.eula. Find it
> and run whatever it has, thanks.
> -patiently waiting your responce.
> -MilaStarX-TS
> On Apr 19, 2013 3:29 AM, "Platonides"  wrote:
>
>> On 19/04/13 01:19, DaB. wrote:
>> > as you may know there is a rev_text_id-field in the revision-table.
>> This field
>> > points to the text-table where the actual text is – or should be.
>> Because the
>> > WMF doesn’t store the text here, but only a pointer
>> ("DB://cluster25/11458305"
>> > for example). If you query different wikis you will see that most of
>> them point
>> > to the same cluster or one with a number short by. That says me (and I
>> was
>> > also told so before) that all text of all wmf-projects are stored
>> together.
>> > The task would now to separate wikidata from the rest – but the
>> storage-area
>> > has no clue from where a text is which makes the separating very hard.
>> And
>> > there is another problem: Deleted texts are also in this area, so even
>> more
>> > filtering would be needed.
>> > I very doubt that this situation will change at the TS and I also doubt
>> that
>> > it will be different for WikiLabs. So I guess your best bet is the API
>> here.
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> > DaB.
>>
>> I think the only hope would be if wikidata was stored under its own
>> cluster (for easier differenciation) and at least one server of that
>> group (the master?) only had that (so toolserver could get its binlogs).
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Wikidata tables

[Patricia Pintilie]

Ok so how about we recocnize what the overal goal is first . Then establish
the point that its trying to convay. Only then can we meet in the middle
and set a plan in motion. I can only assist when a plan of action is clear
with a definite plan without it im lost on where to begin. It seems as if
im doing my natural instinct research then I get mail from the people im
reading about... Very interesting this is because im left to think my mind
is linked to the problems at hand. TS is my old signature, my server os
will pull up my IP searches. Which leads me to believe this is why I am
always being brought up in the middle of these outstanding conversations
you guys are having lol. Please send detailed instructions as to how I can
help,there should be a file known as Mila.eu also known as ro.eula. Find it
and run whatever it has, thanks.
-patiently waiting your responce.
-MilaStarX-TS
On Apr 19, 2013 3:29 AM, "Platonides"  wrote:

> On 19/04/13 01:19, DaB. wrote:
> > as you may know there is a rev_text_id-field in the revision-table. This
> field
> > points to the text-table where the actual text is – or should be.
> Because the
> > WMF doesn’t store the text here, but only a pointer
> ("DB://cluster25/11458305"
> > for example). If you query different wikis you will see that most of
> them point
> > to the same cluster or one with a number short by. That says me (and I
> was
> > also told so before) that all text of all wmf-projects are stored
> together.
> > The task would now to separate wikidata from the rest – but the
> storage-area
> > has no clue from where a text is which makes the separating very hard.
> And
> > there is another problem: Deleted texts are also in this area, so even
> more
> > filtering would be needed.
> > I very doubt that this situation will change at the TS and I also doubt
> that
> > it will be different for WikiLabs. So I guess your best bet is the API
> here.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > DaB.
>
> I think the only hope would be if wikidata was stored under its own
> cluster (for easier differenciation) and at least one server of that
> group (the master?) only had that (so toolserver could get its binlogs).
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Wikidata tables

[Patricia Pintilie]

Imagine Magnus all the files are being looked over to determine human,
machine, and non used accounts. Each needs to be looked over then proper
deletion will clean out making more room. Problematic yes but will help if
this is taken care of the right way now.
On Apr 18, 2013 5:45 AM, "Magnus Manske" 
wrote:

> Huh. That could be ... problematic in the future.
>
> Thanks,
> Magnus
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Lydia Pintscher <
> lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Magnus Manske
>>  wrote:
>> > Just wondering what the status of exposing all wikidata tables on the
>> > toolserver is.
>> >
>> > Currently, there are a few wb_* tables with item labels, descriptions,
>> > aliases, and language links.
>> >
>> > But the tables (whatever they are called) containing item-to-item
>> > connections appear to be missing. Maybe because they were added later?
>>
>> As far as I know they're only saved in JSON where usually the article
>> text is stored and not in separate tables.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Lydia
>>
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Output files

[Patricia Pintilie]

Are u able to create new folders in home?
On Apr 17, 2013 7:18 PM, "Avocato"  wrote:

> I mean this files which are always automatically created when I run my
> crons. I find it in my home folder.
>
>
> 2013/4/18 Patricia Pintilie 
>
>> What outputs are you refering to because there is diffrent ways to handle
>> them.
>> On Apr 17, 2013 7:09 PM, "Avocato"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all. I use this 
>>> way<https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Submit.toolserver.org#resource_definition@script>for
>>>  running crons. I make a file named
>>> *something.sh *for example, encluding the following:
>>>
>>> *#!/bin/sh
>>> #$ -j y
>>> #$ -o /dev/null
>>> cd pywikipedia
>>> python anyscript.py*
>>>
>>> Then, I put a cron like:
>>> *00 21 * * * cronsub -s something % sh $HOME/something.sh*
>>>
>>> The problem is that I want my crons to stop producing output files at
>>> "home" folder inside my account, I don't want it to produce outputs at all.
>>> How can I do that?
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Output files

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What outputs are you refering to because there is diffrent ways to handle
them.
On Apr 17, 2013 7:09 PM, "Avocato"  wrote:

> Hello all. I use this 
> wayfor
>  running crons. I make a file named
> *something.sh *for example, encluding the following:
>
> *#!/bin/sh
> #$ -j y
> #$ -o /dev/null
> cd pywikipedia
> python anyscript.py*
>
> Then, I put a cron like:
> *00 21 * * * cronsub -s something % sh $HOME/something.sh*
>
> The problem is that I want my crons to stop producing output files at
> "home" folder inside my account, I don't want it to produce outputs at all.
> How can I do that?
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