Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

2018-02-22 Thread David Jones 
If it is a flow control problem you will likely see low download and high
upload (from the clients perspective). We had a few rockets and rocket AC's
that would have great upload for the customer but crap download. What we
had to do for this is have the netonix and the MT and the rockets have flow
control. To not affect backhaus and other things we separated it out on the
MT.

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 8:06 AM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ya, I was talking about flow control. Sorry to mix the conversation but
> arent they related?
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:52 PM, Chris J. Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Disabling pause frames is a switch wide setting under configuration.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *RickG
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 6:29 PM
>>
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>>
>>
>>
>> I've heard that too! Would love a conscientious here :)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:17 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>> I thought it was the entire collision domain?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 20, 2018 10:17 PM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Wait...on the switch (1 or all ports?) or on the Airfiber itself? I turn
>> it off only the Airfiber = no more errors. So far, I haven't determined the
>> need for flow control on my switches yet. (Which is why I'm asking ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Chris J. Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Switches that have air fibers attached to them….
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *Jon Langeler
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 7:35 PM
>>
>>
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>>
>>
>>
>> Are you disabling pause everywhere? Or just Airfiber?
>>
>> Jon Langeler
>>
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 19, 2018, at 9:01 PM, Chris J. Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Have you tried disabling Pause Frames on the Netonix switch? We’ve had an
>> issues with Airfibers and that feature on a few sites.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
>> <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Steve Barnes
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 10:56 AM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah everything is on AIRcontrol.  Just can figure it out.
>>
>>
>>
>> At peak times I can run TCP Btest from PC through CPE to Router on Local
>> tower2 and get 45-50 Meg.  (10Mhz channel)
>>
>>
>>
>> Btest from Router Tower2 to Router tower1 and get 200Meg.  (AF5x link
>> 250M capacity Only 50-100M used).
>>
>>
>> Tower 1 Connected to GB fiber and can get 700Meg to Dist router at Core
>> due to traffic.
>>
>>
>>
>> But from PC through all to Dist router I can only get 8 Mbps at night.
>> During the morning when traffic is low I can get 45Mbps.  So has to be
>> buffer, retry, MTU, cpu, etc. but I cant pin point it.  Ping times stay
>> pretty stable. AMQ and AMC really good on this AP, 90%+.
>>
>>
>>
>> Giving some serious thought to Preseem.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Steve Barnes*
>>
>> Wireless Operations Manager
>>
>> *New Lisbon Broadband*
>>
>> *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>*
>>
>> *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>*
>>
>> 765-584-2288 ext:1101 <(765)%20584-2288>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
>> <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Chris J. Ruschmann
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 1:34 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>>
>>
>>
>> Are you running air control or anything else that can aggregate the
>> performance of your site in some n

Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

2018-02-21 Thread RickG 
Ya, I was talking about flow control. Sorry to mix the conversation but
arent they related?

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:52 PM, Chris J. Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net>
wrote:

> Disabling pause frames is a switch wide setting under configuration.
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *RickG
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 6:29 PM
>
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>
>
>
> I've heard that too! Would love a conscientious here :)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:17 PM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
> I thought it was the entire collision domain?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Feb 20, 2018 10:17 PM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Wait...on the switch (1 or all ports?) or on the Airfiber itself? I turn
> it off only the Airfiber = no more errors. So far, I haven't determined the
> need for flow control on my switches yet. (Which is why I'm asking ;)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Chris J. Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net>
> wrote:
>
> Switches that have air fibers attached to them….
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Jon Langeler
> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 7:35 PM
>
>
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>
>
>
> Are you disabling pause everywhere? Or just Airfiber?
>
> Jon Langeler
>
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 19, 2018, at 9:01 PM, Chris J. Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net>
> wrote:
>
> Have you tried disabling Pause Frames on the Netonix switch? We’ve had an
> issues with Airfibers and that feature on a few sites.
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Steve Barnes
> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 10:56 AM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>
>
>
> Yeah everything is on AIRcontrol.  Just can figure it out.
>
>
>
> At peak times I can run TCP Btest from PC through CPE to Router on Local
> tower2 and get 45-50 Meg.  (10Mhz channel)
>
>
>
> Btest from Router Tower2 to Router tower1 and get 200Meg.  (AF5x link 250M
> capacity Only 50-100M used).
>
>
> Tower 1 Connected to GB fiber and can get 700Meg to Dist router at Core
> due to traffic.
>
>
>
> But from PC through all to Dist router I can only get 8 Mbps at night.
> During the morning when traffic is low I can get 45Mbps.  So has to be
> buffer, retry, MTU, cpu, etc. but I cant pin point it.  Ping times stay
> pretty stable. AMQ and AMC really good on this AP, 90%+.
>
>
>
> Giving some serious thought to Preseem.
>
>
>
> *Steve Barnes*
>
> Wireless Operations Manager
>
> *New Lisbon Broadband*
>
> *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>*
>
> *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>*
>
> 765-584-2288 ext:1101 <(765)%20584-2288>
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Chris J. Ruschmann
> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 1:34 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>
>
>
> Are you running air control or anything else that can aggregate the
> performance of your site in some nice easy to read graphs?
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Steve Barnes
> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 7:38 AM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] MTU
>
>
>
> I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet.  Most towers have
> a MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and
> Rockets or Prism for AP’s.  Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account
> for.  Wondering if MTU or Flow control needs adjusted.
>
>
>
> The MTU settings are as follows:
>
> MikroTik MTU: 1500  L2 MTU: 1598 Flow Disabled
>
> Netonix MTU: 1528   Both
>
> AF5x Up to 9600 Auto  Flow Disabled
>
> Rocket MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled
>
> Prism MTU: 1500   Flow Disabled
&

Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

2018-02-20 Thread Chris J. Ruschmann 
Disabling pause frames is a switch wide setting under configuration.

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 6:29 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

I've heard that too! Would love a conscientious here :)

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:17 PM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
I thought it was the entire collision domain?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 20, 2018 10:17 PM, "RickG" 
<rgunder...@gmail.com<mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Wait...on the switch (1 or all ports?) or on the Airfiber itself? I turn it off 
only the Airfiber = no more errors. So far, I haven't determined the need for 
flow control on my switches yet. (Which is why I'm asking ;)

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Chris J. Ruschmann 
<ch...@scsalaska.net<mailto:ch...@scsalaska.net>> wrote:
Switches that have air fibers attached to them….

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Jon Langeler
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 7:35 PM

To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

Are you disabling pause everywhere? Or just Airfiber?
Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Feb 19, 2018, at 9:01 PM, Chris J. Ruschmann 
<ch...@scsalaska.net<mailto:ch...@scsalaska.net>> wrote:
Have you tried disabling Pause Frames on the Netonix switch? We’ve had an 
issues with Airfibers and that feature on a few sites.

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 10:56 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

Yeah everything is on AIRcontrol.  Just can figure it out.

At peak times I can run TCP Btest from PC through CPE to Router on Local tower2 
and get 45-50 Meg.  (10Mhz channel)

Btest from Router Tower2 to Router tower1 and get 200Meg.  (AF5x link 250M 
capacity Only 50-100M used).

Tower 1 Connected to GB fiber and can get 700Meg to Dist router at Core due to 
traffic.

But from PC through all to Dist router I can only get 8 Mbps at night.  During 
the morning when traffic is low I can get 45Mbps.  So has to be buffer, retry, 
MTU, cpu, etc. but I cant pin point it.  Ping times stay pretty stable. AMQ and 
AMC really good on this AP, 90%+.

Giving some serious thought to Preseem.

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
New Lisbon Broadband
NLBC.COM<http://NLBC.COM>
PCSWIN.COM<http://PCSWIN.COM>
765-584-2288 ext:1101<tel:(765)%20584-2288>

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chris J. Ruschmann
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 1:34 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

Are you running air control or anything else that can aggregate the performance 
of your site in some nice easy to read graphs?

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 7:38 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: [Ubnt_users] MTU

I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet.  Most towers have a 
MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and Rockets or 
Prism for AP’s.  Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account for.  
Wondering if MTU or Flow control needs adjusted.

The MTU settings are as follows:
MikroTik MTU: 1500  L2 MTU: 1598 Flow Disabled
Netonix MTU: 1528   Both
AF5x Up to 9600 Auto  Flow Disabled
Rocket MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled
Prism MTU: 1500   Flow Disabled

In your experience should any of these be adjusted?

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
New Lisbon Broadband
NLBC.COM<http://NLBC.COM>
PCSWIN.COM<http://PCSWIN.COM>
765-584-2288 ext:1101<tel:(765)%20584-2288>

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Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

2018-02-20 Thread Josh Luthman 
I thought it was the entire collision domain?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 20, 2018 10:17 PM, "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wait...on the switch (1 or all ports?) or on the Airfiber itself? I turn
> it off only the Airfiber = no more errors. So far, I haven't determined the
> need for flow control on my switches yet. (Which is why I'm asking ;)
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Chris J. Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Switches that have air fibers attached to them….
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *Jon Langeler
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 7:35 PM
>>
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>>
>>
>>
>> Are you disabling pause everywhere? Or just Airfiber?
>>
>> Jon Langeler
>>
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 19, 2018, at 9:01 PM, Chris J. Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Have you tried disabling Pause Frames on the Netonix switch? We’ve had an
>> issues with Airfibers and that feature on a few sites.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
>> <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Steve Barnes
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 10:56 AM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah everything is on AIRcontrol.  Just can figure it out.
>>
>>
>>
>> At peak times I can run TCP Btest from PC through CPE to Router on Local
>> tower2 and get 45-50 Meg.  (10Mhz channel)
>>
>>
>>
>> Btest from Router Tower2 to Router tower1 and get 200Meg.  (AF5x link
>> 250M capacity Only 50-100M used).
>>
>>
>> Tower 1 Connected to GB fiber and can get 700Meg to Dist router at Core
>> due to traffic.
>>
>>
>>
>> But from PC through all to Dist router I can only get 8 Mbps at night.
>> During the morning when traffic is low I can get 45Mbps.  So has to be
>> buffer, retry, MTU, cpu, etc. but I cant pin point it.  Ping times stay
>> pretty stable. AMQ and AMC really good on this AP, 90%+.
>>
>>
>>
>> Giving some serious thought to Preseem.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Steve Barnes*
>>
>> Wireless Operations Manager
>>
>> *New Lisbon Broadband*
>>
>> *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>*
>>
>> *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>*
>>
>> 765-584-2288 ext:1101 <(765)%20584-2288>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
>> <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Chris J. Ruschmann
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 1:34 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>>
>>
>>
>> Are you running air control or anything else that can aggregate the
>> performance of your site in some nice easy to read graphs?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
>> <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Steve Barnes
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 7:38 AM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>> *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] MTU
>>
>>
>>
>> I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet.  Most towers have
>> a MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and
>> Rockets or Prism for AP’s.  Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account
>> for.  Wondering if MTU or Flow control needs adjusted.
>>
>>
>>
>> The MTU settings are as follows:
>>
>> MikroTik MTU: 1500  L2 MTU: 1598 Flow Disabled
>>
>> Netonix MTU: 1528   Both
>>
>> AF5x Up to 9600 Auto  Flow Disabled
>>
>> Rocket MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled
>>
>> Prism MTU: 1500   Flow Disabled
>>
>>
>>
>> In your experience should any of these be adjusted?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Steve Barnes*
>>
>> Wireless Operations Manager
>>
>> *New Lisbon Broadband*
>>
>> *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>*
>>
>> *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>*
>>
>> 765-584-2288 ext:1101 <(765)%20584-2288>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

2018-02-20 Thread RickG 
Wait...on the switch (1 or all ports?) or on the Airfiber itself? I turn it
off only the Airfiber = no more errors. So far, I haven't determined the
need for flow control on my switches yet. (Which is why I'm asking ;)

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Chris J. Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net>
wrote:

> Switches that have air fibers attached to them….
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Jon Langeler
> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 7:35 PM
>
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>
>
>
> Are you disabling pause everywhere? Or just Airfiber?
>
> Jon Langeler
>
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 19, 2018, at 9:01 PM, Chris J. Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net>
> wrote:
>
> Have you tried disabling Pause Frames on the Netonix switch? We’ve had an
> issues with Airfibers and that feature on a few sites.
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Steve Barnes
> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 10:56 AM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>
>
>
> Yeah everything is on AIRcontrol.  Just can figure it out.
>
>
>
> At peak times I can run TCP Btest from PC through CPE to Router on Local
> tower2 and get 45-50 Meg.  (10Mhz channel)
>
>
>
> Btest from Router Tower2 to Router tower1 and get 200Meg.  (AF5x link 250M
> capacity Only 50-100M used).
>
>
> Tower 1 Connected to GB fiber and can get 700Meg to Dist router at Core
> due to traffic.
>
>
>
> But from PC through all to Dist router I can only get 8 Mbps at night.
> During the morning when traffic is low I can get 45Mbps.  So has to be
> buffer, retry, MTU, cpu, etc. but I cant pin point it.  Ping times stay
> pretty stable. AMQ and AMC really good on this AP, 90%+.
>
>
>
> Giving some serious thought to Preseem.
>
>
>
> *Steve Barnes*
>
> Wireless Operations Manager
>
> *New Lisbon Broadband*
>
> *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>*
>
> *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>*
>
> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Chris J. Ruschmann
> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 1:34 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>
>
>
> Are you running air control or anything else that can aggregate the
> performance of your site in some nice easy to read graphs?
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Steve Barnes
> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 7:38 AM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] MTU
>
>
>
> I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet.  Most towers have
> a MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and
> Rockets or Prism for AP’s.  Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account
> for.  Wondering if MTU or Flow control needs adjusted.
>
>
>
> The MTU settings are as follows:
>
> MikroTik MTU: 1500  L2 MTU: 1598 Flow Disabled
>
> Netonix MTU: 1528   Both
>
> AF5x Up to 9600 Auto  Flow Disabled
>
> Rocket MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled
>
> Prism MTU: 1500   Flow Disabled
>
>
>
> In your experience should any of these be adjusted?
>
>
>
> *Steve Barnes*
>
> Wireless Operations Manager
>
> *New Lisbon Broadband*
>
> *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>*
>
> *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>*
>
> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
>
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

2018-02-20 Thread Chris J. Ruschmann 
Switches that have air fibers attached to them….

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Jon Langeler
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 7:35 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

Are you disabling pause everywhere? Or just Airfiber?
Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Feb 19, 2018, at 9:01 PM, Chris J. Ruschmann 
<ch...@scsalaska.net<mailto:ch...@scsalaska.net>> wrote:
Have you tried disabling Pause Frames on the Netonix switch? We’ve had an 
issues with Airfibers and that feature on a few sites.

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 10:56 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

Yeah everything is on AIRcontrol.  Just can figure it out.

At peak times I can run TCP Btest from PC through CPE to Router on Local tower2 
and get 45-50 Meg.  (10Mhz channel)

Btest from Router Tower2 to Router tower1 and get 200Meg.  (AF5x link 250M 
capacity Only 50-100M used).

Tower 1 Connected to GB fiber and can get 700Meg to Dist router at Core due to 
traffic.

But from PC through all to Dist router I can only get 8 Mbps at night.  During 
the morning when traffic is low I can get 45Mbps.  So has to be buffer, retry, 
MTU, cpu, etc. but I cant pin point it.  Ping times stay pretty stable. AMQ and 
AMC really good on this AP, 90%+.

Giving some serious thought to Preseem.

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
New Lisbon Broadband
NLBC.COM<http://NLBC.COM>
PCSWIN.COM<http://PCSWIN.COM>
765-584-2288 ext:1101

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chris J. Ruschmann
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 1:34 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

Are you running air control or anything else that can aggregate the performance 
of your site in some nice easy to read graphs?

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 7:38 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: [Ubnt_users] MTU

I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet.  Most towers have a 
MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and Rockets or 
Prism for AP’s.  Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account for.  
Wondering if MTU or Flow control needs adjusted.

The MTU settings are as follows:
MikroTik MTU: 1500  L2 MTU: 1598 Flow Disabled
Netonix MTU: 1528   Both
AF5x Up to 9600 Auto  Flow Disabled
Rocket MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled
Prism MTU: 1500   Flow Disabled

In your experience should any of these be adjusted?

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
New Lisbon Broadband
NLBC.COM<http://NLBC.COM>
PCSWIN.COM<http://PCSWIN.COM>
765-584-2288 ext:1101

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Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

2018-02-19 Thread Jon Langeler 
Are you disabling pause everywhere? Or just Airfiber?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Feb 19, 2018, at 9:01 PM, Chris J. Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net> wrote:
> 
> Have you tried disabling Pause Frames on the Netonix switch? We’ve had an 
> issues with Airfibers and that feature on a few sites.
>  
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Steve Barnes
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 10:56 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>  
> Yeah everything is on AIRcontrol.  Just can figure it out. 
>  
> At peak times I can run TCP Btest from PC through CPE to Router on Local 
> tower2 and get 45-50 Meg.  (10Mhz channel)
>  
> Btest from Router Tower2 to Router tower1 and get 200Meg.  (AF5x link 250M 
> capacity Only 50-100M used).
> 
> Tower 1 Connected to GB fiber and can get 700Meg to Dist router at Core due 
> to traffic. 
>  
> But from PC through all to Dist router I can only get 8 Mbps at night.  
> During the morning when traffic is low I can get 45Mbps.  So has to be 
> buffer, retry, MTU, cpu, etc. but I cant pin point it.  Ping times stay 
> pretty stable. AMQ and AMC really good on this AP, 90%+. 
>  
> Giving some serious thought to Preseem.
>  
> Steve Barnes
> Wireless Operations Manager
> New Lisbon Broadband
> NLBC.COM
> PCSWIN.COM
> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
>  
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Chris J. Ruschmann
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 1:34 PM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>  
> Are you running air control or anything else that can aggregate the 
> performance of your site in some nice easy to read graphs?
>  
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Steve Barnes
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 7:38 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> Subject: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>  
> I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet.  Most towers have a 
> MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and Rockets 
> or Prism for AP’s.  Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account for.  
> Wondering if MTU or Flow control needs adjusted.
>  
> The MTU settings are as follows:
> MikroTik MTU: 1500  L2 MTU: 1598 Flow Disabled
> Netonix MTU: 1528   Both
> AF5x Up to 9600 Auto  Flow Disabled
> Rocket MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled
> Prism MTU: 1500   Flow Disabled
>  
> In your experience should any of these be adjusted?
>  
> Steve Barnes
> Wireless Operations Manager
> New Lisbon Broadband
> NLBC.COM
> PCSWIN.COM
> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
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Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

2018-02-19 Thread Matt Hoppes 
Steve,
Unthrottled what does your download and upload speed look like?

> On Feb 19, 2018, at 21:01, Chris J. Ruschmann <ch...@scsalaska.net> wrote:
> 
> Have you tried disabling Pause Frames on the Netonix switch? We’ve had an 
> issues with Airfibers and that feature on a few sites.
>  
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Steve Barnes
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 10:56 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>  
> Yeah everything is on AIRcontrol.  Just can figure it out. 
>  
> At peak times I can run TCP Btest from PC through CPE to Router on Local 
> tower2 and get 45-50 Meg.  (10Mhz channel)
>  
> Btest from Router Tower2 to Router tower1 and get 200Meg.  (AF5x link 250M 
> capacity Only 50-100M used).
> 
> Tower 1 Connected to GB fiber and can get 700Meg to Dist router at Core due 
> to traffic. 
>  
> But from PC through all to Dist router I can only get 8 Mbps at night.  
> During the morning when traffic is low I can get 45Mbps.  So has to be 
> buffer, retry, MTU, cpu, etc. but I cant pin point it.  Ping times stay 
> pretty stable. AMQ and AMC really good on this AP, 90%+. 
>  
> Giving some serious thought to Preseem.
>  
> Steve Barnes
> Wireless Operations Manager
> New Lisbon Broadband
> NLBC.COM
> PCSWIN.COM
> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
>  
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Chris J. Ruschmann
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 1:34 PM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>  
> Are you running air control or anything else that can aggregate the 
> performance of your site in some nice easy to read graphs?
>  
> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Steve Barnes
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 7:38 AM
> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> Subject: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>  
> I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet.  Most towers have a 
> MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and Rockets 
> or Prism for AP’s.  Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account for.  
> Wondering  if MTU or Flow control needs adjusted.
>  
> The MTU settings are as follows:
> MikroTik MTU: 1500  L2 MTU: 1598 Flow Disabled
> Netonix MTU: 1528   Both
> AF5x Up to 9600 Auto  Flow Disabled
> Rocket MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled
> Prism MTU: 1500   Flow Disabled
>  
> In your experience should any of these be adjusted?
>  
> Steve Barnes
> Wireless Operations Manager
> New Lisbon Broadband
> NLBC.COM
> PCSWIN.COM
> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
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Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

2018-02-19 Thread Chris J. Ruschmann 
Have you tried disabling Pause Frames on the Netonix switch? We've had an 
issues with Airfibers and that feature on a few sites.

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 10:56 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

Yeah everything is on AIRcontrol.  Just can figure it out.

At peak times I can run TCP Btest from PC through CPE to Router on Local tower2 
and get 45-50 Meg.  (10Mhz channel)

Btest from Router Tower2 to Router tower1 and get 200Meg.  (AF5x link 250M 
capacity Only 50-100M used).

Tower 1 Connected to GB fiber and can get 700Meg to Dist router at Core due to 
traffic.

But from PC through all to Dist router I can only get 8 Mbps at night.  During 
the morning when traffic is low I can get 45Mbps.  So has to be buffer, retry, 
MTU, cpu, etc. but I cant pin point it.  Ping times stay pretty stable. AMQ and 
AMC really good on this AP, 90%+.

Giving some serious thought to Preseem.

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
New Lisbon Broadband
NLBC.COM
PCSWIN.COM
765-584-2288 ext:1101

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chris J. Ruschmann
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 1:34 PM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

Are you running air control or anything else that can aggregate the performance 
of your site in some nice easy to read graphs?

From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 7:38 AM
To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>>
Subject: [Ubnt_users] MTU

I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet.  Most towers have a 
MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and Rockets or 
Prism for AP's.  Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account for.  
Wondering if MTU or Flow control needs adjusted.

The MTU settings are as follows:
MikroTik MTU: 1500  L2 MTU: 1598 Flow Disabled
Netonix MTU: 1528   Both
AF5x Up to 9600 Auto  Flow Disabled
Rocket MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled
Prism MTU: 1500   Flow Disabled

In your experience should any of these be adjusted?

Steve Barnes
Wireless Operations Manager
New Lisbon Broadband
NLBC.COM
PCSWIN.COM
765-584-2288 ext:1101

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Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

2018-02-19 Thread Jon Langeler 
Good to hear! It does also depend on # of firewall rules, queues, NAT, etc 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Feb 19, 2018, at 7:13 PM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
> 
> CCR is fine. One of ours pushes 2 gbps at night and averages 5% CPU 
> utilization so we have plenty of headroom. 
> 
>> On Feb 19, 2018 6:11 PM, "J Portman" <ba...@baron.com> wrote:
>> Our CCR1072 pulls 2g out of 10g and doesn't break a sweat. 
>> YMMV, 
>> JP 
>> On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 19:03:26 -0500, Jon Langeler wrote 
>> > [UTF-8?]I’d consider x86 over CCR if your at those numbers  
>> > 
>> > Jon Langeler 
>> > Michwave Technologies, Inc. 
>> > 
>> > On Feb 19, 2018, at 6:05 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> > 
>> >
>>> 
>>> 
>>> > 
>>> > Travis, I appreciate the input and cant speak for Steve but I've been 
>>> > running a CCR for years. Currently it's a CCR1036 being fed with a 2gig 
>>> > fiber circuit with peak traffic of 700-800  megs. LOL, I'm starting to 
>>> > think it's the CCR! 
>>> > 
>>> > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 5:35 PM, Travis Allen <tra...@totalhighspeed.net> 
>>> > wrote: 
>>> >
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Guys, 
>>>> > We have had a very similar problem recently with non Cloud Core mikrotik 
>>>> > routers.  Nothing seemed wrong, but the router capacity to process 
>>>> > packets was maxed out even though the CPU showed only around 70-80% max. 
>>>> >  After replacing the router with a CCR, everything was much better.   I 
>>>> > recommend upgrading the router to a CCR and see what happens. 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Travis Allen, President 
>>>> > Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 
>>>> > totalhighspeed.com 
>>>> > 417-851-1107 x 501 
>>>> > 
>>>> >
>>>> 
>>>> > From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> 
>>>> > To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> 
>>>> > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 4:22:28 PM 
>>>> > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU 
>>>> > 
>>>> > I've got the same issue. I cant identify exactly when it started, just 
>>>> > crept up over time. 
>>>> > 
>>>> > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com> wrote: 
>>>> >
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet.  Most towers 
>>>>> > have a MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, 
>>>>> > and Rockets or Prism for [UTF-8?]AP’s.  Sometimes seeing some slow 
>>>>> > downs I cant account for.  Wondering if MTU or Flow control needs 
>>>>> > adjusted. 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > The MTU settings are as follows: 
>>>>> > MikroTik MTU: 1500  L2 MTU: 1598  Flow Disabled 
>>>>> > Netonix MTU: 1528 Both 
>>>>> > AF5x Up to 9600 AutoFlow Disabled 
>>>>> > Rocket MTU: 1500   Flow 
>>>>> > Disabled 
>>>>> > Prism MTU: 1500  Flow 
>>>>> > Disabled 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > In your experience should any of these be adjusted? 
>>>>> >   
>>>>> > Steve Barnes 
>>>>> > Wireless Operations Manager 
>>>>> > New Lisbon Broadband 
>>>>> > NLBC.COM 
>>>>> > PCSWIN.COM 
>>>>> > 765-584-2288 ext:1101 
>>>>> >   
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>>>>> > 
>>>>> >
>>>> 
>>>> > 
>>>> 
>>>> > 
>>>> > -- 
>>>> > 
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>>> 
>>> > 
>>> 
>>> > 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

2018-02-19 Thread Darin Steffl 
CCR is fine. One of ours pushes 2 gbps at night and averages 5% CPU
utilization so we have plenty of headroom.

On Feb 19, 2018 6:11 PM, "J Portman" <ba...@baron.com> wrote:

> Our CCR1072 pulls 2g out of 10g and doesn't break a sweat.
> YMMV,
> JP
> *On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 19:03:26 -0500, Jon Langeler wrote*
> > [UTF-8?]I’d consider x86 over CCR if your at those numbers
> >
> > Jon Langeler
> > Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> >
> > On Feb 19, 2018, at 6:05 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
>
>
> >
> > Travis, I appreciate the input and cant speak for Steve but I've been
> running a CCR for years. Currently it's a CCR1036 being fed with a 2gig
> fiber circuit with peak traffic of 700-800 megs. LOL, I'm starting to think
> it's the CCR!
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 5:35 PM, Travis Allen <tra...@totalhighspeed.net
> > wrote:
> >
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Guys,
>> > We have had a very similar problem recently with non Cloud Core
>> mikrotik routers.  Nothing seemed wrong, but the router capacity to process
>> packets was maxed out even though the CPU showed only around 70-80% max.
>> After replacing the router with a CCR, everything was much better.   I
>> recommend upgrading the router to a CCR and see what happens.
>> >
>> > Travis Allen, President
>> > Total Highspeed Internet Solutions
>> > totalhighspeed.com
>> > 417-851-1107 x 501 <(417)%20851-1107>
>> >
>> >
>> --
>>
>> > *From: *"RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com>
>> > *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>> > *Sent: *Monday, February 19, 2018 4:22:28 PM
>> > *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>> >
>> > I've got the same issue. I cant identify exactly when it started, just
>> crept up over time.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet.  Most towers
>>> have a MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and
>>> Rockets or Prism for [UTF-8?]AP’s.  Sometimes seeing some slow downs I
>>> cant account for.  Wondering if MTU or Flow control needs adjusted.
>>> >
>>> > The MTU settings are as follows:
>>> > MikroTik MTU: 1500  L2 MTU: 1598  Flow Disabled
>>> > Netonix MTU: 1528 Both
>>> > AF5x Up to 9600 AutoFlow Disabled
>>> > Rocket MTU: 1500   Flow
>>> Disabled
>>> > Prism MTU: 1500  Flow
>>> Disabled
>>> >
>>> > In your experience should any of these be adjusted?
>>> >
>>> > *Steve Barnes*
>>> > Wireless Operations Manager
>>> > *New Lisbon Broadband*
>>> > *NLBC.COM <http://nlbc.com/>*
>>> > *PCSWIN.COM <http://pcswin.com/>*
>>> > 765-584-2288 <(765)%20584-2288> ext:1101
>>> >
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>>
>> >
>>
>> >
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Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

2018-02-19 Thread J Portman 
Our CCR1072 pulls 2g out of 10g and doesn't break a sweat.
YMMV,
JP
On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 19:03:26 -0500, Jon Langeler wrote
> [UTF-8?]I’d consider x86 over CCR if your at those numbers 
> 
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
> 
> On Feb 19, 2018, at 6:05 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Travis, I appreciate the input and cant speak for Steve but I've been running 
> a CCR for years. Currently it's a CCR1036 being fed with a 2gig fiber circuit 
> with peak traffic of 700-800 megs. LOL, I'm starting to think it's the CCR!
> 
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 5:35 PM, Travis Allen <tra...@totalhighspeed.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Guys,
> We have had a very similar problem recently with non Cloud Core mikrotik 
> routers.  Nothing seemed wrong, but the router capacity to process packets 
> was maxed out even though the CPU showed only around 70-80% max.  After 
> replacing the router with a CCR, everything was much better.   I recommend 
> upgrading the router to a CCR and see what happens.
> 
> Travis Allen, President
> Total Highspeed Internet Solutions
> totalhighspeed.com
> 417-851-1107 x 501
> 
> 
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> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com>
> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 4:22:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
> 
> I've got the same issue. I cant identify exactly when it started, just crept 
> up over time.
> 
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet.  Most towers have a 
> MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and Rockets 
> or Prism for [UTF-8?]AP’s.  Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account 
> for.  Wonderingif MTU or Flow control needs adjusted.
>  
> The MTU settings are as follows:
> MikroTik MTU: 1500  L2 MTU: 1598 Flow Disabled
> Netonix MTU: 1528  Both
> AF5x Up to 9600 Auto      Flow Disabled
> Rocket MTU: 1500    Flow Disabled
> Prism MTU: 1500       Flow Disabled
>  
> In your experience should any of these be adjusted? 
>  
> Steve Barnes
> Wireless Operations Manager
> New Lisbon Broadband
> NLBC.COM
> PCSWIN.COM
> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
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Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

2018-02-19 Thread Jon Langeler 
I’d consider x86 over CCR if your at those numbers 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Feb 19, 2018, at 6:05 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Travis, I appreciate the input and cant speak for Steve but I've been running 
> a CCR for years. Currently it's a CCR1036 being fed with a 2gig fiber circuit 
> with peak traffic of 700-800 megs. LOL, I'm starting to think it's the CCR!
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 5:35 PM, Travis Allen <tra...@totalhighspeed.net> 
>> wrote:
>> Guys,
>> We have had a very similar problem recently with non Cloud Core mikrotik 
>> routers.  Nothing seemed wrong, but the router capacity to process packets 
>> was maxed out even though the CPU showed only around 70-80% max.  After 
>> replacing the router with a CCR, everything was much better.   I recommend 
>> upgrading the router to a CCR and see what happens.
>> 
>> 
>> Travis Allen, President
>> Total Highspeed Internet Solutions
>> totalhighspeed.com
>> 417-851-1107 x 501
>> 
>> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com>
>> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 4:22:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>> 
>> I've got the same issue. I cant identify exactly when it started, just crept 
>> up over time.
>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com> wrote:
>>> I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet.  Most towers have a 
>>> MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and Rockets 
>>> or Prism for AP’s.  Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account for.  
>>> Wondering if MTU or Flow control needs adjusted.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The MTU settings are as follows:
>>> 
>>> MikroTik MTU: 1500  L2 MTU: 1598 Flow Disabled
>>> 
>>> Netonix MTU: 1528   Both
>>> 
>>> AF5x Up to 9600 Auto  Flow Disabled
>>> 
>>> Rocket MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled
>>> 
>>> Prism MTU: 1500   Flow Disabled
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> In your experience should any of these be adjusted?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Steve Barnes
>>> 
>>> Wireless Operations Manager
>>> 
>>> New Lisbon Broadband
>>> 
>>> NLBC.COM
>>> 
>>> PCSWIN.COM
>>> 
>>> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

2018-02-19 Thread RickG 
Travis, I appreciate the input and cant speak for Steve but I've been
running a CCR for years. Currently it's a CCR1036 being fed with a 2gig
fiber circuit with peak traffic of 700-800 megs. LOL, I'm starting to think
it's the CCR!

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 5:35 PM, Travis Allen <tra...@totalhighspeed.net>
wrote:

> Guys,
> We have had a very similar problem recently with non Cloud Core mikrotik
> routers.  Nothing seemed wrong, but the router capacity to process packets
> was maxed out even though the CPU showed only around 70-80% max.  After
> replacing the router with a CCR, everything was much better.   I recommend
> upgrading the router to a CCR and see what happens.
>
>
> Travis Allen, President
> Total Highspeed Internet Solutions
> totalhighspeed.com
> 417-851-1107 x 501
>
> --
> *From: *"RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com>
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> *Sent: *Monday, February 19, 2018 4:22:28 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>
> I've got the same issue. I cant identify exactly when it started, just
> crept up over time.
>
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com> wrote:
>
>> I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet.  Most towers have
>> a MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and
>> Rockets or Prism for AP’s.  Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account
>> for.  Wondering if MTU or Flow control needs adjusted.
>>
>>
>>
>> The MTU settings are as follows:
>>
>> MikroTik MTU: 1500  L2 MTU: 1598 Flow Disabled
>>
>> Netonix MTU: 1528   Both
>>
>> AF5x Up to 9600 Auto  Flow Disabled
>>
>> Rocket MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled
>>
>> Prism MTU: 1500   Flow Disabled
>>
>>
>>
>> In your experience should any of these be adjusted?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Steve Barnes*
>>
>> Wireless Operations Manager
>>
>> *New Lisbon Broadband*
>>
>> *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>*
>>
>> *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>*
>>
>> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
>>
>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

2018-02-19 Thread Travis Allen 
Guys, 
We have had a very similar problem recently with non Cloud Core mikrotik 
routers. Nothing seemed wrong, but the router capacity to process packets was 
maxed out even though the CPU showed only around 70-80% max. After replacing 
the router with a CCR, everything was much better. I recommend upgrading the 
router to a CCR and see what happens. 


Travis Allen, President 
Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 
totalhighspeed.com 
417-851-1107 x 501 

- Original Message -

From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> 
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 4:22:28 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU 

I've got the same issue. I cant identify exactly when it started, just crept up 
over time. 

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Steve Barnes < st...@pcswin.com > wrote: 





I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet. Most towers have a 
MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and Rockets or 
Prism for AP’s. Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account for. Wondering 
if MTU or Flow control needs adjusted. 



The MTU settings are as follows: 

MikroTik MTU: 1500 L2 MTU: 1598 Flow Disabled 

Netonix MTU: 1528 Both 

AF5x Up to 9600 Auto Flow Disabled 

Rocket MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled 

Prism MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled 



In your experience should any of these be adjusted? 



Steve Barnes 

Wireless Operations Manager 

New Lisbon Broadband 

NLBC.COM 

PCSWIN.COM 

765-584-2288 ext:1101 



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Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

2018-02-19 Thread Shawn C. Peppers 
If it was MTU related it would likely not be a “slowness” issue but more of a 
on-off-on-off experience for the end user.  Sounds interference or congestion 
related to me.  Too many connections in connection tracking tables?  Broadcast 
traffic? 

::://Shawn C. Peppers\\:::

> On Feb 19, 2018, at 4:28 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> My symptoms exactly Steve. I'm starting to wonder if it's a UBNT thing. My 
> Cambium sector does not show those issues although to be fair I do have a few 
> UBNT towers that run great. IDK!
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 2:55 PM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com> wrote:
>> Yeah everything is on AIRcontrol.  Just can figure it out. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> At peak times I can run TCP Btest from PC through CPE to Router on Local 
>> tower2 and get 45-50 Meg.  (10Mhz channel)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Btest from Router Tower2 to Router tower1 and get 200Meg.  (AF5x link 250M 
>> capacity Only 50-100M used).
>> 
>> 
>> Tower 1 Connected to GB fiber and can get 700Meg to Dist router at Core due 
>> to traffic. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> But from PC through all to Dist router I can only get 8 Mbps at night.  
>> During the morning when traffic is low I can get 45Mbps.  So has to be 
>> buffer, retry, MTU, cpu, etc. but I cant pin point it.  Ping times stay 
>> pretty stable. AMQ and AMC really good on this AP, 90%+. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Giving some serious thought to Preseem.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Steve Barnes
>> 
>> Wireless Operations Manager
>> 
>> New Lisbon Broadband
>> 
>> NLBC.COM
>> 
>> PCSWIN.COM
>> 
>> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Chris J. Ruschmann
>> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 1:34 PM
>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Are you running air control or anything else that can aggregate the 
>> performance of your site in some nice easy to read graphs?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Steve Barnes
>> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 7:38 AM
>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>> Subject: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet.  Most towers have a 
>> MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and Rockets 
>> or Prism for AP’s.  Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account for.  
>> Wondering if MTU or Flow control needs adjusted.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The MTU settings are as follows:
>> 
>> MikroTik MTU: 1500  L2 MTU: 1598 Flow Disabled
>> 
>> Netonix MTU: 1528   Both
>> 
>> AF5x Up to 9600 Auto  Flow Disabled
>> 
>> Rocket MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled
>> 
>> Prism MTU: 1500   Flow Disabled
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> In your experience should any of these be adjusted?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Steve Barnes
>> 
>> Wireless Operations Manager
>> 
>> New Lisbon Broadband
>> 
>> NLBC.COM
>> 
>> PCSWIN.COM
>> 
>> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

2018-02-19 Thread RickG 
My symptoms exactly Steve. I'm starting to wonder if it's a UBNT thing. My
Cambium sector does not show those issues although to be fair I do have a
few UBNT towers that run great. IDK!

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 2:55 PM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com> wrote:

> Yeah everything is on AIRcontrol.  Just can figure it out.
>
>
>
> At peak times I can run TCP Btest from PC through CPE to Router on Local
> tower2 and get 45-50 Meg.  (10Mhz channel)
>
>
>
> Btest from Router Tower2 to Router tower1 and get 200Meg.  (AF5x link 250M
> capacity Only 50-100M used).
>
>
> Tower 1 Connected to GB fiber and can get 700Meg to Dist router at Core
> due to traffic.
>
>
>
> But from PC through all to Dist router I can only get 8 Mbps at night.
> During the morning when traffic is low I can get 45Mbps.  So has to be
> buffer, retry, MTU, cpu, etc. but I cant pin point it.  Ping times stay
> pretty stable. AMQ and AMC really good on this AP, 90%+.
>
>
>
> Giving some serious thought to Preseem.
>
>
>
> *Steve Barnes*
>
> Wireless Operations Manager
>
> *New Lisbon Broadband*
>
> *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>*
>
> *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>*
>
> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Chris J. Ruschmann
> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 1:34 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>
>
>
> Are you running air control or anything else that can aggregate the
> performance of your site in some nice easy to read graphs?
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Steve Barnes
> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 7:38 AM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] MTU
>
>
>
> I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet.  Most towers have
> a MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and
> Rockets or Prism for AP’s.  Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account
> for.  Wondering if MTU or Flow control needs adjusted.
>
>
>
> The MTU settings are as follows:
>
> MikroTik MTU: 1500  L2 MTU: 1598 Flow Disabled
>
> Netonix MTU: 1528   Both
>
> AF5x Up to 9600 Auto  Flow Disabled
>
> Rocket MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled
>
> Prism MTU: 1500   Flow Disabled
>
>
>
> In your experience should any of these be adjusted?
>
>
>
> *Steve Barnes*
>
> Wireless Operations Manager
>
> *New Lisbon Broadband*
>
> *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>*
>
> *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>*
>
> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
>
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

2018-02-19 Thread RickG 
I've got the same issue. I cant identify exactly when it started, just
crept up over time.

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Steve Barnes  wrote:

> I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet.  Most towers have
> a MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and
> Rockets or Prism for AP’s.  Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account
> for.  Wondering if MTU or Flow control needs adjusted.
>
>
>
> The MTU settings are as follows:
>
> MikroTik MTU: 1500  L2 MTU: 1598 Flow Disabled
>
> Netonix MTU: 1528   Both
>
> AF5x Up to 9600 Auto  Flow Disabled
>
> Rocket MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled
>
> Prism MTU: 1500   Flow Disabled
>
>
>
> In your experience should any of these be adjusted?
>
>
>
> *Steve Barnes*
>
> Wireless Operations Manager
>
> *New Lisbon Broadband*
>
> *NLBC.COM *
>
> *PCSWIN.COM *
>
> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
>
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

2018-02-19 Thread Darin Steffl 
I'll plug that Preseem is working really well for us to help find issues
exactly like you're talking about. It is more than monitoring and equipment
stats like AirControl. It actually gives you visibility into the customer
experience. I'd recommend doing their free 30-day trial. I promise you'll
want to keep it like we decided to.

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Steve Barnes <st...@pcswin.com> wrote:

> Yeah everything is on AIRcontrol.  Just can figure it out.
>
>
>
> At peak times I can run TCP Btest from PC through CPE to Router on Local
> tower2 and get 45-50 Meg.  (10Mhz channel)
>
>
>
> Btest from Router Tower2 to Router tower1 and get 200Meg.  (AF5x link 250M
> capacity Only 50-100M used).
>
>
> Tower 1 Connected to GB fiber and can get 700Meg to Dist router at Core
> due to traffic.
>
>
>
> But from PC through all to Dist router I can only get 8 Mbps at night.
> During the morning when traffic is low I can get 45Mbps.  So has to be
> buffer, retry, MTU, cpu, etc. but I cant pin point it.  Ping times stay
> pretty stable. AMQ and AMC really good on this AP, 90%+.
>
>
>
> Giving some serious thought to Preseem.
>
>
>
> *Steve Barnes*
>
> Wireless Operations Manager
>
> *New Lisbon Broadband*
>
> *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>*
>
> *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>*
>
> 765-584-2288 ext:1101 <(765)%20584-2288>
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Chris J. Ruschmann
> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 1:34 PM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU
>
>
>
> Are you running air control or anything else that can aggregate the
> performance of your site in some nice easy to read graphs?
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org
> <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Steve Barnes
> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 7:38 AM
> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* [Ubnt_users] MTU
>
>
>
> I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet.  Most towers have
> a MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and
> Rockets or Prism for AP’s.  Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account
> for.  Wondering if MTU or Flow control needs adjusted.
>
>
>
> The MTU settings are as follows:
>
> MikroTik MTU: 1500  L2 MTU: 1598 Flow Disabled
>
> Netonix MTU: 1528   Both
>
> AF5x Up to 9600 Auto  Flow Disabled
>
> Rocket MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled
>
> Prism MTU: 1500   Flow Disabled
>
>
>
> In your experience should any of these be adjusted?
>
>
>
> *Steve Barnes*
>
> Wireless Operations Manager
>
> *New Lisbon Broadband*
>
> *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>*
>
> *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>*
>
> 765-584-2288 ext:1101 <(765)%20584-2288>
>
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

2018-02-19 Thread J Portman 
We have found, every time, without exception there are only a few causes:

* Not enough backhaul. :)

* Sector is heavily loaded.
* Customers with excessively weak signals pulling the sector down
* #1 INTERFERENCE. Gotta LOVE airmagic and airview on prism aps.

YMMV,

JP

On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:38:01 +, Steve Barnes wrote
> I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet.  Most towers have a 
> MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and Rockets 
> or Prism for AP’s.  Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account for. 
> Wonderingif MTU or Flow control needs adjusted.
>  
> The MTU settings are as follows:
> MikroTik MTU: 1500  L2 MTU: 1598 Flow Disabled
> Netonix MTU: 1528  Both
> AF5x Up to 9600 Auto      Flow Disabled
> Rocket MTU: 1500    Flow Disabled
> Prism MTU: 1500       Flow Disabled
>  
> In your experience should any of these be adjusted? 
>  
> Steve Barnes
> Wireless Operations Manager
> New Lisbon Broadband
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> PCSWIN.COM
> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
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Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU

2018-02-19 Thread Adair Winter 
unless you are passing VLAN's MPLS/VPLS or PPPoE over the AP's everything
else looks fine.

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 10:38 AM, Steve Barnes  wrote:

> I am trying to get every last drop out of our internet.  Most towers have
> a MikroTik Routing, Netonix doing POE and Switching, Fed by AF5x, and
> Rockets or Prism for AP’s.  Sometimes seeing some slow downs I cant account
> for.  Wondering if MTU or Flow control needs adjusted.
>
>
>
> The MTU settings are as follows:
>
> MikroTik MTU: 1500  L2 MTU: 1598 Flow Disabled
>
> Netonix MTU: 1528   Both
>
> AF5x Up to 9600 Auto  Flow Disabled
>
> Rocket MTU: 1500 Flow Disabled
>
> Prism MTU: 1500   Flow Disabled
>
>
>
> In your experience should any of these be adjusted?
>
>
>
> *Steve Barnes*
>
> Wireless Operations Manager
>
> *New Lisbon Broadband*
>
> *NLBC.COM *
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU Size Changes Itself on Rocket M2

2016-08-19 Thread Scott Lambert 
What's your PPPoE server?  Yesterday afternoon I got a call from a tech at a 
customer location.  Yahoo main page loaded.  The yahoo mail login page did not. 
 The customer's linksys router had lost the internet port a few years ago, so 
every device was using the ubnt radio in router mode with pppoe, 1492 MTU.  

I lowered the MTU on the tech's laptop and everything worked.  A bit later I 
noticed that the dynamic PPP MTU fixup rules on the MikroTik PPPoE server were 
at the bottom of the list and not being reached.  Moving those rules to 
position 0 solved the customer's issues.

I suspect most consumer routers are better at dealing with PathMTU discovery  
blackholes than Windows TCP/IP stack.  That *may* be why we only had one 
customer complaint.  I'm not sure why AirOS didn't handle it, if that's the 
case.

I'm not sure how the rules ended up out of order after months of correct 
operation.  I suspect it happened when I updated the mangle packet marking 
rules via a script.  But it could be a RouterOS 6.26 bug.  I've not dived into 
deeply enough to prove any theory.  I probably won't bother if it doesn't 
happen again.   I have scheduled it to upgrade to 6.34.6 tonight. 


On August 19, 2016 6:38:46 AM CDT, Sam Morris  wrote:
>On 8/18/2016 2:41 PM, Scott Lambert wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 08:55:29AM -0500, Sam Morris wrote:
>>> There is nothing in the event section of the AC2 server, nor is
>there
>>> any indication of the MTU size getting changed in the radio's logs.
>>> (There is an entry in the event log from when I changed it from 1492
>->
>>> 1500 bytes, but that's the only thing related to this.) (I checked
>>> Saturday and Sunday's logs - nothing to indicate the MTU size was
>>> changed.) I'm continuing to investigate - if anyone has another
>thought
>>> I'd welcome it :)
>>
>> Maybe the AP has been set that way for a long time.
>>
>> Did you recently change any firewall rules to block ICMP?
>>
>> If ICMP is working, PathMTU discovery can work and connections can
>deal
>> with arbitrary MTU limits along the path.  The TCP/IP stacks just
>lower
>> the MSS until they no longer receive ICMP packet too big responses.
>
>Hi Scott,
>
>Nope, I'm positive nothing changed on the firewall. (No one other than 
>me has the credentials to login to either the AP or the firewall.) I
>did 
>consider it, but really don't think the AP MTU size could've been set 
>like that all along as it was completely preventing customers 
>(especially those with a Mac) from working; as soon as I changed it to 
>1500 they immediately started working again. My thinking is if it had 
>been set that way all along they wouldn't have ever worked (they've
>been 
>working for months).
>
>At this point, after going through all the AP logs and AC2 logs, I have
>
>to think that there was something in that wonky switch port that
>must've 
>somehow caused the setting to change. I can't prove that, but can rule 
>out anything else (assuming the logs can be trusted). I did see entries
>
>from other APs where I was experimenting with increasing the MTU size -
>
>each time I made a change there was a corresponding log entry in both 
>the AP log as well as the AC2 log. The only recent entry is from when I
>
>increased it from 1492 to 1500. There were 15,000+ errors on that port 
>on the Netonix, and while I find it difficult to believe the switch 
>caused that setting to change like it did, I can find nothing else 
>remotely close to offering reasonable suspicion, short of a hacker 
>getting into the Rocket and changing it - but were I to hack an AP, 
>changing the MTU size wouldn't be high on my list of things to do once
>I 
>gained access :)
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU Size Changes Itself on Rocket M2

2016-08-18 Thread Sam Morris 
There is nothing in the event section of the AC2 server, nor is there 
any indication of the MTU size getting changed in the radio's logs. 
(There is an entry in the event log from when I changed it from 1492 -> 
1500 bytes, but that's the only thing related to this.) (I checked 
Saturday and Sunday's logs - nothing to indicate the MTU size was 
changed.) I'm continuing to investigate - if anyone has another thought 
I'd welcome it :)

Sam

On 8/18/2016 8:19 AM, Alasdair MacLeod wrote:
> Are you using AC2?  Check the events logs for changes for changes (a cog
> icon should show on the graphs if any changes occurred and a new config
> was backed up).
>
> On 18 August 2016 at 14:04, Sam Morris  > wrote:
>
> Yes. AC2 latest beta.
>
> On 8/18/2016 7:34 AM, Adair Winter wrote:
>  > are you running aircontrol?
>  >
>  > On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:45 AM, Sam Morris  
>  > >> wrote:
>  >
>  > Have any of you ever known the MTU setting in the Network Tab
> on a
>  > Rocket M2 (AP) to change itself? I started getting calls
> Sunday morning
>  > (primarily from Mac users) saying some of their websites
> wouldn't load.
>  > To make too long of a story short, I found that the MTU size
> was set to
>  > 1492 on the AP. (We do use PPPoE, and the MTU on the CPEs is
> set to
>  > 1492.) It should have been 1500. Changing it back to 1500
> fixed all the
>  > issues.
>  >
>  > My question is this: Other than me, no one has the password
> to get into
>  > the AP. I hadn't been into it in many days (or weeks). Yet
> somehow the
>  > MTU size changed and it obviously happened sometime between
> Saturday
>  > (when things for my users were fine) and Sunday morning (when
> things
>  > became hinky). There were some storms in the area, however I
> don't
>  > believe there was a lightning strike (as if that would only
> change the
>  > MTU setting and not affect anything else on the radio, or the
> other 11
>  > radios on the same tower). There *was* a bad port on the
> Netonix switch
>  > it was plugged into, however as with a lightning strike, I
> wouldn't
>  > think even a shorted port on the switch would change only
> that one
>  > setting - I could see it defaulting the entire radio, but not one
>  > setting like that.
>  >
>  > Anyone ever seen anything like that?
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Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU Size Changes Itself on Rocket M2

2016-08-18 Thread Alasdair MacLeod 
Are you using AC2?  Check the events logs for changes for changes (a cog
icon should show on the graphs if any changes occurred and a new config was
backed up).

On 18 August 2016 at 14:04, Sam Morris  wrote:

> Yes. AC2 latest beta.
>
> On 8/18/2016 7:34 AM, Adair Winter wrote:
> > are you running aircontrol?
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:45 AM, Sam Morris  > > wrote:
> >
> > Have any of you ever known the MTU setting in the Network Tab on a
> > Rocket M2 (AP) to change itself? I started getting calls Sunday
> morning
> > (primarily from Mac users) saying some of their websites wouldn't
> load.
> > To make too long of a story short, I found that the MTU size was set
> to
> > 1492 on the AP. (We do use PPPoE, and the MTU on the CPEs is set to
> > 1492.) It should have been 1500. Changing it back to 1500 fixed all
> the
> > issues.
> >
> > My question is this: Other than me, no one has the password to get
> into
> > the AP. I hadn't been into it in many days (or weeks). Yet somehow
> the
> > MTU size changed and it obviously happened sometime between Saturday
> > (when things for my users were fine) and Sunday morning (when things
> > became hinky). There were some storms in the area, however I don't
> > believe there was a lightning strike (as if that would only change
> the
> > MTU setting and not affect anything else on the radio, or the other
> 11
> > radios on the same tower). There *was* a bad port on the Netonix
> switch
> > it was plugged into, however as with a lightning strike, I wouldn't
> > think even a shorted port on the switch would change only that one
> > setting - I could see it defaulting the entire radio, but not one
> > setting like that.
> >
> > Anyone ever seen anything like that?
> >
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Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU Size Changes Itself on Rocket M2

2016-08-18 Thread Sam Morris 
Yes. AC2 latest beta.

On 8/18/2016 7:34 AM, Adair Winter wrote:
> are you running aircontrol?
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:45 AM, Sam Morris  > wrote:
>
> Have any of you ever known the MTU setting in the Network Tab on a
> Rocket M2 (AP) to change itself? I started getting calls Sunday morning
> (primarily from Mac users) saying some of their websites wouldn't load.
> To make too long of a story short, I found that the MTU size was set to
> 1492 on the AP. (We do use PPPoE, and the MTU on the CPEs is set to
> 1492.) It should have been 1500. Changing it back to 1500 fixed all the
> issues.
>
> My question is this: Other than me, no one has the password to get into
> the AP. I hadn't been into it in many days (or weeks). Yet somehow the
> MTU size changed and it obviously happened sometime between Saturday
> (when things for my users were fine) and Sunday morning (when things
> became hinky). There were some storms in the area, however I don't
> believe there was a lightning strike (as if that would only change the
> MTU setting and not affect anything else on the radio, or the other 11
> radios on the same tower). There *was* a bad port on the Netonix switch
> it was plugged into, however as with a lightning strike, I wouldn't
> think even a shorted port on the switch would change only that one
> setting - I could see it defaulting the entire radio, but not one
> setting like that.
>
> Anyone ever seen anything like that?
>
> Thanks
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Re: [Ubnt_users] MTU Size Changes Itself on Rocket M2

2016-08-18 Thread Adair Winter 
are you running aircontrol?

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:45 AM, Sam Morris  wrote:

> Have any of you ever known the MTU setting in the Network Tab on a
> Rocket M2 (AP) to change itself? I started getting calls Sunday morning
> (primarily from Mac users) saying some of their websites wouldn't load.
> To make too long of a story short, I found that the MTU size was set to
> 1492 on the AP. (We do use PPPoE, and the MTU on the CPEs is set to
> 1492.) It should have been 1500. Changing it back to 1500 fixed all the
> issues.
>
> My question is this: Other than me, no one has the password to get into
> the AP. I hadn't been into it in many days (or weeks). Yet somehow the
> MTU size changed and it obviously happened sometime between Saturday
> (when things for my users were fine) and Sunday morning (when things
> became hinky). There were some storms in the area, however I don't
> believe there was a lightning strike (as if that would only change the
> MTU setting and not affect anything else on the radio, or the other 11
> radios on the same tower). There *was* a bad port on the Netonix switch
> it was plugged into, however as with a lightning strike, I wouldn't
> think even a shorted port on the switch would change only that one
> setting - I could see it defaulting the entire radio, but not one
> setting like that.
>
> Anyone ever seen anything like that?
>
> Thanks
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