lucid and monitors

2010-02-02 Thread Mike Coulombe
Hi, I am still having a problem with lucid not getting to the login screen for 
gnome if I don't have a monitor connected. It does let me login to the consul, 
but I don't get the login sound for gnome. Any idea what could be causing this. 
My monitor doesn't have to be on, but it does have to be connected.
Mike.

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Re: lucid and monitors

2010-02-02 Thread Jacob Schmude
Mike, do you know what video driver your system is trying to use? I've 
found that some video drivers with certain video cards (usually 
integraded GPUs) won't allow you to start X if a monitor isn't 
connected. On a slightly related note, something similar happens if you 
attempt to use a Macintosh Mini without a monitor connected, the system 
goes crazy. I believe the video card itself sends an error if a monitor 
isn't connected, essentially they have an open circuit that is completed 
when a monitor is plugged in. I've seen this on Intel GPUs for the most 
part, but it's probably not limited specifically to them.

On 02/02/2010 06:00 PM, Mike Coulombe wrote:
 Hi, I am still having a problem with lucid not getting to the login screen 
 for gnome if I don't have a monitor connected. It does let me login to the 
 consul, but I don't get the login sound for gnome. Any idea what could be 
 causing this. My monitor doesn't have to be on, but it does have to be 
 connected.
 Mike.




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Re: lucid and monitors

2010-02-02 Thread Jacob Schmude
Mike
It goes crazy with both. OS X will boot without a monitor, but it runs 
slow and anything that tries to initialize the video card won't work and 
will crash. Ubuntu, naturally, will simply not start X at all.
This isn't specific to Ubuntu or even Linux, any system such as FreeBSD, 
Opensolaris, etc that is based on X11 is going to do this.
What graphics hardware do you have? If I know that I can find what 
driver it's using, and maybe that driver specifically has an option to 
ignore that error.
Another workaround is to get a composite video connector and attach that 
to where your monitor would normally connect. These adapters have enough 
basic circuitry in them that the video card believes them to be monitors 
and will not generate the error in the first place. Depending on your 
connector type, you'll need either a VGA to composite or a DVI to 
composite. Apple sells one for DVI (for the Mac Mini, but it will work 
on any DVI connector) but not sure who sells a VGA to composite adapter 
these days.


On 02/02/2010 06:33 PM, Mike Coulombe wrote:
 Does the mac mini go crazy with their software or ubuntu. I have been 
 thinking about getting one of those.
 Mike.
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 - (Original Message) -
 From: Jacob Schmudej.schm...@gmail.com
 Date: Tuesday, February 2,  at 6:27 PM
 To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: lucid and monitors


 Mike, do you know what video driver your system is trying to use? I've
 found that some video drivers with certain video cards (usually
 integraded GPUs) won't allow you to start X if a monitor isn't
 connected. On a slightly related note, something similar happens if you
 attempt to use a Macintosh Mini without a monitor connected, the system
 goes crazy. I believe the video card itself sends an error if a monitor
 isn't connected, essentially they have an open circuit that is completed
 when a monitor is plugged in. I've seen this on Intel GPUs for the most
 part, but it's probably not limited specifically to them.

 On 02/02/2010 06:00 PM, Mike Coulombe wrote:

 Hi, I am still having a problem with lucid not getting to the login screen 
 for gnome if I don't have a monitor connected. It does let me login to the 
 consul, but I don't get the login sound for gnome. Any idea what could be 
 causing this. My monitor doesn't have to be on, but it does have to be 
 connected.
 Mike.


  

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Re: lucid and monitors

2010-02-02 Thread Jacob Schmude
Which Intel, specifically? You may be able to fall back on the i810 
driver which doesn't respond to the no monitor error.

On 02/02/2010 06:58 PM, Mike Coulombe wrote:
 According to windows it is intel.
 Mike.
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 - (Original Message) -
 From: Jacob Schmudej.schm...@gmail.com
 Date: Tuesday, February 2,  at 6:41 PM
 To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: lucid and monitors


 Mike
 It goes crazy with both. OS X will boot without a monitor, but it runs
 slow and anything that tries to initialize the video card won't work and
 will crash. Ubuntu, naturally, will simply not start X at all.
 This isn't specific to Ubuntu or even Linux, any system such as FreeBSD,
 Opensolaris, etc that is based on X11 is going to do this.
 What graphics hardware do you have? If I know that I can find what
 driver it's using, and maybe that driver specifically has an option to
 ignore that error.
 Another workaround is to get a composite video connector and attach that
 to where your monitor would normally connect. These adapters have enough
 basic circuitry in them that the video card believes them to be monitors
 and will not generate the error in the first place. Depending on your
 connector type, you'll need either a VGA to composite or a DVI to
 composite. Apple sells one for DVI (for the Mac Mini, but it will work
 on any DVI connector) but not sure who sells a VGA to composite adapter
 these days.


 On 02/02/2010 06:33 PM, Mike Coulombe wrote:

 Does the mac mini go crazy with their software or ubuntu. I have been 
 thinking about getting one of those.
 Mike.
 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100202-1, 02/02/2010), Outbound message
 X-Antivirus-Status: Clean


 - (Original Message) -
 From: Jacob Schmudej.schm...@gmail.com
 Date: Tuesday, February 2,  at 6:27 PM
 To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: lucid and monitors


 Mike, do you know what video driver your system is trying to use? I've
 found that some video drivers with certain video cards (usually
 integraded GPUs) won't allow you to start X if a monitor isn't
 connected. On a slightly related note, something similar happens if you
 attempt to use a Macintosh Mini without a monitor connected, the system
 goes crazy. I believe the video card itself sends an error if a monitor
 isn't connected, essentially they have an open circuit that is completed
 when a monitor is plugged in. I've seen this on Intel GPUs for the most
 part, but it's probably not limited specifically to them.

 On 02/02/2010 06:00 PM, Mike Coulombe wrote:

  
 Hi, I am still having a problem with lucid not getting to the login screen 
 for gnome if I don't have a monitor connected. It does let me login to the 
 consul, but I don't get the login sound for gnome. Any idea what could be 
 causing this. My monitor doesn't have to be on, but it does have to be 
 connected.
 Mike.




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